I'm a conservative woman and I fully intend to vote for Palin. Frankly, I'm sick of all the nasty comments leveled at her. She's a talented woman, one with the guts to see needs that need to be addressed and the willingness to address them.
As for all the comments that she is unprepared as to foreign affairs--that will all come with time. She has the skill set to deal with such issues and the ability and correct instincts to surround herself with the people who do have the knowledge that she'll need.
Think of this as a corporation that needs a new CEO. When one is needed, one gets the person who has the skill set to run the country, not necessarily someone who knows exactly all of the ins and outs of what it takes to manufacture or produce whatever widgets or whatnots are being made. It's doubtful that the average CEO can handle the day to day jobs such as running the machines or the computers that are involved in the manufacturing. What the CEO needs is the ability to see the big picture, the ability to see what needs to be done and then the leadership to get it done. I believe that Palin has such skills and that she will be more than able to perform the job.
She is going to have to stand up not only to men who feel intimidated by women, but to women who will resent a woman who has achieved what she as. She's already shown herself capable of doing that. I'm appalled by the incredible bitchiness I've seen from some of the women on the left. Their criticism, in most cases, has nothing to do with issues, is simply screeching, personal attacks.
As for her pro-life stance--I'm pro-life. One of my best friends is pro-choice and we have agreed to disagree on this issue. We'll never agree--such is life.
So, just sit back and watch this unfold. If she wins, and I devoutly hope that she does, this will be a breath of fresh air in Washington D.C.
Quoting: MartyWrites
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She is going to have to stand up not only to men who feel intimidated by women, but to women who will resent a woman who has achieved what she as. She's already shown herself capable of doing that. I'm appalled by the incredible bitchiness I've seen from some of the women on the left. Their criticism, in most cases, has nothing to do with issues, is simply screeching, personal attacks.
but to women who will resent a woman who has achieved what she as.
Thats the core of it
J E A L O US Y
from inadequate losers !
lol.
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 365611 10/3/2008 5:00 PM
Re: Strange that we haven't seen any women defend Palin the way PACNW has....hmmmm...maybe because they know cheap when they see it?
*sigh* It isn't jealousy, or 'gotcha journalism', or media censorship, or sexism, or liberalism...it's exasperation, from both sexes, that someone so ludicrously unsuitable has been selected.
Enlilson Son of son of son of Enlil User ID: 513300 10/3/2008 5:02 PM
Re: Strange that we haven't seen any women defend Palin the way PACNW has....hmmmm...maybe because they know cheap when they see it?
I will defend Palin!!!!!!!!!!!! She is real, what you see is what you get. She is honest. She is VERY smart. And most of all, in a country that is in deperate need for good female role models, she is better than those anorexic Hollywood sluts.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 505700
Let me get this straight. She is ready to be the VP let alone the President because she is not an anorexic hollweird ho.
My Gwad AC there are so many women out there that are more qualified then Palin that the only thing I can say is TURN YOUR FKING TV OFF NOW........... __O__/
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A Conservative Woman User ID: 508682 10/3/2008 5:09 PM
Re: Strange that we haven't seen any women defend Palin the way PACNW has....hmmmm...maybe because they know cheap when they see it?
I'm a conservative woman and I fully intend to vote for Palin. Frankly, I'm sick of all the nasty comments leveled at her. She's a talented woman, one with the guts to see needs that need to be addressed and the willingness to address them.
As for all the comments that she is unprepared as to foreign affairs--that will all come with time. She has the skill set to deal with such issues and the ability and correct instincts to surround herself with the people who do have the knowledge that she'll need.
Think of this as a corporation that needs a new CEO. When one is needed, one gets the person who has the skill set to run the country, not necessarily someone who knows exactly all of the ins and outs of what it takes to manufacture or produce whatever widgets or whatnots are being made. It's doubtful that the average CEO can handle the day to day jobs such as running the machines or the computers that are involved in the manufacturing. What the CEO needs is the ability to see the big picture, the ability to see what needs to be done and then the leadership to get it done. I believe that Palin has such skills and that she will be more than able to perform the job.
She is going to have to stand up not only to men who feel intimidated by women, but to women who will resent a woman who has achieved what she as. She's already shown herself capable of doing that. I'm appalled by the incredible bitchiness I've seen from some of the women on the left. Their criticism, in most cases, has nothing to do with issues, is simply screeching, personal attacks.
As for her pro-life stance--I'm pro-life. One of my best friends is pro-choice and we have agreed to disagree on this issue. We'll never agree--such is life.
So, just sit back and watch this unfold. If she wins, and I devoutly hope that she does, this will be a breath of fresh air in Washington D.C.
Quoting: MartyWrites
Well said!
Thank you, fellow Conservative Woman!
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Livin'LaVidaAla ska User ID: 485721 10/3/2008 5:18 PM
Re: Strange that we haven't seen any women defend Palin the way PACNW has....hmmmm...maybe because they know cheap when they see it?
How is it that Sarah Palin in the comfort of arm chairs and casual strolls one on one with Charlie Gibson, or Katie Couric is so less than "Folksy" but just plain Sarah without a clue. The several instances in our recent repertoire of Sarah Palin making a complete fool of herself to the world audience keeps running through my mind.
It is why the American public and in fact the world bothered to catch a Vice Presidential debate. To see this unqualified woman from Alaska attempt to go head to head with one of America's proven champions for debate, Senator Joe Biden.
So how is it that this debater Sarah Palin stands up on stage and is able to suddenly answer questions (sometimes) and sometimes not but recites eloquently in her "folksy" script the talking points down the line for McCain. At one point, I watched her as she stared into the camera and rattled off big words quickly only occasionally could you detect the tell tale mispronunciations of an uneducated Vice Presidential hopeful. She appeared to be stepford wife in style. Programmed.
In many ways the strict rules and parameters of a debate format provides a safe place for an unqualified impostor. After days of sequestered preparation, Sarah stepped out on stage a new woman as if she knew what the Bush doctrine was all along and was just toying with us!
Joe Biden, warned by all the pundits not to offend women voters, was careful not to attack Palin or put Palin on the defensive. Gwen Ifel with a new book about black political leaders was also in a compromising position.
In a one on one interview, Palin did not get by reciting talking points, the interviewer was able to stop her, and pointedly ask her to explain. That's when the real Sarah Palin shows up without a script and self destructs.
There was no self destruction last night. It was orchestrated, rehearsed and when Gwen Ifel asked certain questions of Palin, she continued with her script often not even answering the question posed. That would not happen in an interview.
So did this debate really erase the Sarah Palin that conservative journalists were calling to step down? Did it really make us all conclude that this is the real Sarah and the incredible interviews, Sarah with Charlie Gibson, Katie Couric and even Shawn Hannity were just "Gotcha" journalism and don't count?
Sarah Palin showed the world that handlers can take an unqualified novice, drum a script through her head like an implanted teleprompter and you can pull off a debate.
Take that format away, like a sit down with Charlie Gibson, or Katie Couric, George Stephanopoulos, Chris Matthews, and you have got the Sarah Palin with an improved vocabulary, but without the knowledge base of a true leader to discuss diplomacy, or policy or logic. One on one with someone talking about the things that "Vice Presidents talk about everyday" and the Sarah Palin world view gets scarier.
Think of how scary it would be when that one on one is with a world leader with more in depth questions than Katie Couric's big stumper question " where do you get your news?"
Livin'LaVidaAla ska User ID: 485721 10/3/2008 5:20 PM
Re: Strange that we haven't seen any women defend Palin the way PACNW has....hmmmm...maybe because they know cheap when they see it?
Hey, hey, hey, I am a woman and I have supported her from the get go. Are you men afraid that a woman can out shine you? After all mostly men have been "ruining" this country for some time.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 116726 10/3/2008 5:38 PM
Re: Strange that we haven't seen any women defend Palin the way PACNW has....hmmmm...maybe because they know cheap when they see it?
Palin is a disgrace to our gender, and now that the Alaskan's have seen her on a national stage, she'll be a one term governor, too.
Women know snide, women know disengenuous, women know deceitfulness, women know nervousness, women know when someone is being cunning, women know those who are vain, women know floozies, women know those who are catty, bitchy, and downright evil.
Women also know a false front, those who are out of their realm of experience, those who are uneducated, clueless, and mostly women know who is B.S.'ing them LONG before men even have a clue.
The exceptions, of course, are those women who actually allow their husbands to tell them what to do, and those women who have been absorbed by their mentors, as well as those women who really don't have many women girlfriends.
Quoting: Pollyannuh(nil) 46877
If women know so much (apparently that description only includes those who agree with you....) why are so many of them planning on voting for a misogynist Muslim, black racist communist who's going to take everything they have and give it to gangbangers and illegal aliens?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 516603 10/3/2008 5:39 PM
Re: Strange that we haven't seen any women defend Palin the way PACNW has....hmmmm...maybe because they know cheap when they see it?
Hey, hey, hey, I am a woman and I have supported her from the get go. Are you men afraid that a woman can out shine you? After all mostly men have been "ruining" this country for some time.
Quoting: Sandpiper 516826
What we WOMEN need, however, is an intelligent, free-thinking woman who doesn't PANDER to the "good old boys".
I'm sorry, but if you support Palin, it is in SPITE of her being a bimbo, and that's truly sad for all women.
truthhound User ID: 493706 10/3/2008 5:44 PM
Re: Strange that we haven't seen any women defend Palin the way PACNW has....hmmmm...maybe because they know cheap when they see it?
What is conservative about Palin? What is there to defend???
Have you not heard her say she is a feminist?
She said it clearly with explanation just the other day...oh wait, that must not have been aired on FOXnews.
I am a 40 year old truly conservative woman and I can not find ANY reason to defend this woman.
She puts career ABOVE family. That ALONE disqualifies her as conservative.
Winking at the camera and spewing contrived colloquialisms does not make this woman smart or qualified to be 2nd in command of this country.
She is grossly uneducated in matters of national importance and can only regurgitate phrases and talking points. Left to think for herself, she reveals the disaster that is her narrow minded and twisted thought process. She has a shallow and cursory knowledge of all things substantial and nationally relevant.
I don't like Obama for plenty of other reasons that are not the topic of this thread and i have problems with McCain that also disqualify him from being suited to serve...so this isn't a partisan view. There is no choice in this election that is good for America, but then again...that is really not what elections are about in this country. They are meant to give us the sense that we have a say in the officials that run this country...which is a fallacy as well.
Jealous? oh please. Not only am I smarter than she is, she collectively gives conservative women a bad name. There is nothing here to support whether you are male or female. Only people that get their world view from their pulpit and their news from the msm will think that she is FABULOUS! gag.
GraftedPromise U$ofA User ID: 516831 10/3/2008 5:46 PM
Re: Strange that we haven't seen any women defend Palin the way PACNW has....hmmmm...maybe because they know cheap when they see it?
There's a new affliction sweeping the nation, and it's known as Palin Derangement Syndrome. The phenomenon is similar to Bush Derangement Syndrome, a term coined by political columnist Charles Krauthammer to describe the personal animosity and irrational hatred directed at President Bush by his leftist opponents. But this time, Republican presidential candidate John McCain's running mate, Sarah Palin, is the object of wrath.
The feeding frenzy began with the news of Palin's selection, but it was her electrifying speech at the Republic National Convention last month that really set it off. In one fell swoop, Palin managed to energize the Republican base, breathe life into the McCain campaign, launch some very effective jabs at Barack Obama, and quite possibly, attract the support of the 18 million Hillary Clinton voters.
The attacks on Palin have ranged from patronizing to vicious to fantastical. She has been caricatured as an inexperienced rube, a baby-making automaton, an uneducated underachiever, a bad mother, trailer-park trash, a rightwing religious fanatic, a sexual fantasy, and of course, a fascist. No subject has been deemed taboo in the effort to take Palin down.
What her detractors don't seem to realize is that in the process of insulting Palin, they are insulting the majority of the country. If being a self-made success story, a working mother, a church-going member of a small-town community, and a believer in moderate to conservative political viewpoints disqualifies Palin, what does that say about mainstream America? The inherent condescension at the heart of the anti-Palin campaign is coming across loud and clear and it may actually be boosting her popularity.
The sexist tenor of the attacks on Palin is only furthering this process. Some of the worst comments have emanated from self-professed feminists who seem to resent the path Palin has taken in life, even as it parallels their own. The always independent-minded Camille Paglia is a notable exception, but by and large, the liberal, female establishment has turned on Palin . Never mind that Palin -- with an amazing record of professional accomplishment, a happy marriage, and five beautiful children -- is the personification of the feminist "women can have it all" ideal.
What all the attackers have in common is an almost pathological hatred and attendant desire to project upon Palin all of their worst fears, prejudices, and in some cases, fantasies. In the pages of Salon Magazine, for instance, writer Gary Kamiya likened her to a "dominatrix," while University of Michigan Middle East studies professor Juan Cole compared her to a "Muslim fundamentalist" and a member of the Taliban.
In what constitutes the lowest of the low, a number of Palin's opponents have focused on her children or rather, their apparent resentment that she has chosen to have children. The National Review's Byron York catalogued several of these in a recent column for The Hill.
As he noted: Wendy Doniger, the Mircea Eliade Distinguished Service Professor of the History of Religions at the University of Chicago Divinity School, wrote that Palin's "greatest hypocrisy is in her pretense that she is a woman" and denounced "the Republican Party's cynical calculation that because [Palin] has a womb and makes lots and lots of babies -- she speaks for the women of America.
"Carol Fowler, the chairman of the South Carolina Democratic Party, said that Palin's "primary qualification seems to be that she hasn't had an abortion."
Other adversaries have questioned Palin's ability as a mother and in particular, a mother with a special needs baby, while still others have used her teenage daughter's pregnancy to undermine her credibility. But Palin's domestic challenges are shared by millions of Americans and tend to elicit more sympathy than condemnation. And everyone knows a male politician would never be asked such questions.
Always eager to proffer their political opinions, a host of Hollywood celebrities have issued their own high-minded objections to Palin. Lindsay Lohan weighed in with her condescending belief that Palin is only "qualified to be" a "television anchor."Matt Damon likened Palin's candidacy to a "really bad Disney movie," and Gina Gershon went so far as to impersonate Palin in a vicious and unfunny clip that culminates in her stripping down to a bikini. The list goes on, but every time another one of these desperately out-of-touch with America celebrities tries to belittle Palin, it has the opposite effect.
Despite her impressive resume, Palin has been dogged by accusations that she lacks experience and foreign policy know-how. Democrats have pointed to the first part of her recent interview with ABC's Charlie Gibson as a "gotcha" moment simply because Palin asked Gibson to clarify what he meant by the Bush Doctrine. As columnist Charles Krauthammer points out, the Bush Doctrine has held four different definitions over the course of the last eight years and has never been finally determined by the Bush administration. The term was, in fact, originated by Krauthammer. But Palin's detractors have ignored this inconvenient fact, as well as failing to notice that Gibson's pompous manner and ridiculously suspicious questions have become the real story.
Generally speaking, a public backlash over perceived media bias against Palin may be brewing. US Weekly's decision to run a trashy cover story on Palin titled, "Baby, Lies & Scandal" (two months after a glowing cover story on the Obamas) has reportedly resulted in thousands of cancellations. In a larger sense, a September 4 Rasmussen poll notes that "51% of American voters think reporters are trying to hurt Sarah Palin with their news coverage, and 24% say those stories make them more likely to vote for Republican presidential candidate John McCain in November."
The media has been fixated on Palin for weeks and one is hard pressed to go a day without hearing some or another allegation being trotted out. The worst example was when mainstream media outlets ran with a lurid rumor originating with an anonymous diarist at the leftist blog Daily Kos that insinuated that Palin's son Trig was actually her grandson. The falsehoods surrounding Palin on the Internet have been so widely reproduced that FactCheck.org, a nonpartisanw Web site, posted a listing of corrections aptly titled, "Sliming Palin.
"The all-out assault on the genuine and likable Palin is certainly a blessing in disguise for the Republican Party. Not only is it galvanizing Republicans, but the nasty tone and hysterical nature are turning off potential Democratic voters. In particular, those Democrats who, in the words of Obama speaking after a fundraiser at the Getty mansion in San Francisco earlier this year, "cling to their guns and religion." When Palin referenced Obama's gaffe in her RNC speech, calling him out for speaking about Americans "one way in Scranton and another in San Francisco," it was evident that she had her finger on the pulse of the Democratic Party's discord.
So too Palin's praise for Hillary Clinton and her reference to the "18 million cracks in the glass ceiling." In building on McCain's already existing strategy of reaching out to Hillary voters and others disaffected with the DNC leadership, Palin demonstrated a political savvy that the Obama camp never saw coming.
In choosing Palin as his running mate, McCain displayed the boldness and forward-thinking that his Democratic rival Obama has yet to embody. By picking the conventional Joe Biden over Hillary Clinton as his running mate, Obama failed to live up to his own mantra of "change." He also failed to recognize a politically smart move when it was staring him in the face, as Clinton would have presumably brought millions of votes with her.
In fact, rumors that the Obama ticket would seek to unburden itself of Biden and replace him with Hillary in the coming weeks have been circulating, and at least one Huffington Post columnist has suggested as much. Some have speculated that Democrats may be experiencing a bout of buyer's remorse over their choice of Obama to head the ticket. Obama's empty rhetoric about "hope" and "change" certainly pales in light of the actual reform implemented by Palin in Alaska and by McCain throughout his career. Meanwhile his brief resume and lack of political savvy and even at times, personal likability (his odd sense of humor comes to mind) have become liabilities.
But Obama's worst enemy is not himself, or even Sarah Palin, but rather, the ranks of his own rabid supporters. If they keep it up, McCain could be laughing all the way to the White House.
Cinnamon Stillwell is a San Francisco Bay Area writer. "
Anonymous Coward User ID: 516624 (OP) 10/3/2008 6:24 PM
Re: Strange that we haven't seen any women defend Palin the way PACNW has....hmmmm...maybe because they know cheap when they see it?
As an Alaskan I am very proud of Sarah Palin. She is a charmer and sharp as a whip. Many love her here, and some hate her. Like people everywhere, You can't please all the people all the time. America is in trouble, serious trouble, but maybe someone with values and priciples and someone not owned by TPTB is just what we need. I think alot of people are women haters, and others are just jealous. I like her spunk. peace
Anonymous Coward User ID: 300370 10/3/2008 6:29 PM
Re: Strange that we haven't seen any women defend Palin the way PACNW has....hmmmm...maybe because they know cheap when they see it?
First, per your title your intellectual level garners no respect, by grouping ALL into your world.
Let me see if I can explain it to you on your level.
Last I looked, I have a twat between my legs.
This means I am female. And a very powerful one in MY world.
And I, quite frankly, like her.
See how easy that is? Now the brief few seconds you thought up the title for this thread with that teeny brain of yours just got blown out of the water.
HOWEVER, I ALSO do not think ANY of the candidates are suitable for presidency.
Many reasons..lack of EXPERIENCE required to run a country is one of them.
The winner is actually the one that loses, for they are not a puppet.
Do you get it yet?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 505174 10/3/2008 6:32 PM
Re: Strange that we haven't seen any women defend Palin the way PACNW has....hmmmm...maybe because they know cheap when they see it?
As an Alaskan I am very proud of Sarah Palin. She is a charmer and sharp as a whip. Many love her here, and some hate her. Like people everywhere, You can't please all the people all the time. America is in trouble, serious trouble, but maybe someone with values and priciples and someone not owned by TPTB is just what we need. I think alot of people are women haters, and others are just jealous. I like her spunk. peace
Quoting: fireweed 373282
Low standard
You sound like the media right now, using such words has "she has spunk" "She has values"
People who dont like her obviously are women haters or jalous.
and your fucking comment about her being sharp has a wip
I mean fuck
Its no use to even point out the interview she went on since she was asked to be VP, since you probably already have seen them. But apparently, her method is approved by you.
I mean wow
She is so smart, that she deliberatly fucks up every questions someones asks her.
She is so smart, that she deliberatly fucks up every questions someones asks her.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 494735
COURIC: "Mrs Palin, what do you make of the proposed rescue plan?"
PALIN: "This one time, at bandcamp, some shyster tried to sell me some magic beans. But I said, like, 'Uh-uh, no way, Hose-ay - I wasn't born last week! So basically I told him to shove it, Charlie."
COURIC: "I'm 'Katie', Mrs Palin..."
PALIN: "Sure y'are...and that's why John Cocaine and I are bringing new energy to the Whitewash House! 'Cos we're like, new n' stuff...reforming job creation in healthcare because people are ill...'cos they have created 1 out of 5 jobs in job healthcare...in Alaska."
COURIC: "You're a moron."
PALIN: "Nope, them folks live in Salt Lake City, not Alaska, Charlie."
Anonymous Coward User ID: 516624 (OP) 10/3/2008 6:44 PM
Re: Strange that we haven't seen any women defend Palin the way PACNW has....hmmmm...maybe because they know cheap when they see it?
First, per your title your intellectual level garners no respect, by grouping ALL into your world.
Let me see if I can explain it to you on your level.
Last I looked, I have a twat between my legs.
This means I am female. And a very powerful one in MY world.
And I, quite frankly, like her.
See how easy that is? Now the brief few seconds you thought up the title for this thread with that teeny brain of yours just got blown out of the water.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300370
Wow. The class just oozes out of your fingertips and onto my screen.
Did you ever stop to consider I created this title to initiate a powerful response?
I definitely got one from you now, didn't I? I bet your blood really started to boil as you began typing your shitty little message of hate.
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