Zeitgeist Addendum, If True, Has Changed My Life

AMEN!!

Same here.


Mike

What do you mean, "if true"?

You didn't know that money was printed out of thin air?

Just finished watching Addendum. I'm now convinced that if there were to be any validity to the earth moving from the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius, as referenced in the original Zeitgeist, bringing about the end of an "Age", the broad concept of embracing a society based around resources rather than money (the entire notion of Addendum) seems not only appropriate, but necessary and, well, just obvious. The answer has been there all along. It's clear to see that the time has never been more right for this change of consciousness, this revolution. Not the revolution we've been told to prepare for (stock up on ammo & food), but the true Revolution of the mind.

If you have yet to watch Zeitgeist Addendum, I would highly recommend it.

That's it.

Yep! This film is fuckin awesome... That old guy is fuckin amazing.. 92 years old... wow, his been through a lot...

What's different in the Addendum that wasn't in the original?

It's 4 parts...

Part I is about the American Federal Debt creation system, and how it creates money out of thin air through perpetual debt creation...

Part II is something about how the whole idea of a monetary system, and now a resource based system, confines the way in which we live in the world. Resource based sees the primary concern of life is to maintain a comfortable life with the least amount of resources and pollution with solar, geothermal, wind energy, etc. This part was pretty damn good.

Part III was about how institutions based on the monetary system and the idea of "scarcity," which is no longer relevent to the present due to the advances in technology, sustain the slavery of "labor" and job creation. It explains how the monetary system is dying. Excellent.

Part IV was about how to change it and future ideas, i.e the venus project.

Excellent, excellent, excellent.

Goes more in detail in simple terms about the control, and then offers a solution, and then ideas on things you can do to start changing.

Its a must watch movie. Very good

i want to see that "nick and nora" movie.

It is very carefully constructed lie.

I don't think the producers aimed to decieve their viewers- as there is much, much truth in Zeitgeist.

But the consensus, the idea that is implanted at the base of your thinking after having viewed it, is horribly twisted and erroneous.

I could literally spend years in instructing people here to the discrepancies but in short:

THE FILM REPRESENTS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE *SUPPOSED* TO BELIEVE. AND HEY- APPARENTLY FOR GOOD REASON!

And indeed, it's the climax of beautiful hegelian dialectic and hundreds of years of psychological programming.

Mindfucking over generations.

I have yet to see a better prep for accepting the New Order with open arms than Zeitgeist. Whoever takes it for the Truth, wanders into utter darkness. Ironic that the film is a warning of the impending restructurization.

As the distruction of religion is a top priority and a necessary step in the birth of The Order - whoever spreads this just spreads the mindfuck. You think your part of the solution? No, they're much smarter than you - you're a part of the problem.

In any case, everything is going exactly as planned. The behavior on this forum is a remarkable gauge of the real world out there - you are all behaving as forseen. Many of you think your outside of the "Matrix", but the "Matrix" is far bigger than most of you will ever dare to imagine...

yea? well i had sex with your wife

and we all watched him...

Why? No new information, just expanded on the first movie.

The expanded explanation regarding the monetary system and the central banking scam was excellent and could be a good tool to educate the ignorant; but if you have seen the original Zeitgeist, or any of the many similar videos, you already know about the Federal Reserve fraud.

Actually, I feel a bit let down by this. I was expecting (at least hoping) for much more.



Also, I do not understand the focus on the useless fantasy of the Venus Project; it seems very out of place here and is no help to the situation facing humanity.

We don't need to hear about a futuristic dream-world where everything is beautiful and everyone is happy because some new-age hippies have a vision. We need real ideas to get out of the fraudulent and enslaving system created by the bankers.

Simplistic and symbolic actions like taking your money to a different bank and investing in alternative energy sources in your home are epically inadequate and will have ZERO effect on the elite bankers and the corporations.

And, of course, this guy will still not shut the fuck up about his misguided and incorrect views regarding Christianity.

This addendum should have only been about an hour long. The expanded explanation of the world monetary (debt-based) system is great, but the rest of the movie is filler and a complete waste of time.

There were no real solutions offered.

It would appear that people here are so enslaved to their conditioning that their opposition to Zeitgeist 2 is that it doesn't offer a solution that operates within the well defined boundaries of democracy and the almighty dollar. Which is pretty much the point of the entire film. The system does not work. It is an unnatural, unbalanced system that serves only the rich and greedy to the behest of the world's population and the environment at large. We need to walk away from the system. Period. We need a new way of life.

Please offer constructive criticism and be proactive in providing the solutions you think could or will work instead of the same old knee-jerk reactionary stance of the every-day capitalist. We should all be collaborating on creating a future we are all proud to be a part of.

For me, Zeitgeist 2 was an excellent film. It does what artists and visionaries are failing to do at present, which is provide the rest of us with a potential vision of the future. The idea that this is somehow unproductive and unrealistic is ludicrous. If you have no vision, you have no direction. We are a world being told, don't be imaginative, don't rock the boat, this is the best way, this is the only way, and there isn't enough to go around. These are all lies. Everyone should see Zeitgeist 2, even if we don't agree on all the points raised, but for education's sake so that future generations may avoid the pitfalls we have found ourselves in. We need to evolve as a species and we need to do so in harmony with the planet we live on. Everything else is just a waste.

This is why it's SO IMPORTANT to elect someone like Chuck Baldwin, who wants to get rid of the IRS, the FEDERAL RESERVE,wants to bring our troops home and wants to reinvestigate 9-11.

McCain and Obama are PART OF THE PROBLEM....WAKE UP!!!!

Fucking

yup. some of the stuff in the movie was unrealistic but i see what they're trying to say. still good in some levels but there's something weird about this movie but i cant put my finger on it.

He might have been conceding some of the solutions he's thought up because of, well, you know, the NWO on watch. It's possibly a censored version of what he really wanted to say, or, hell, maybe even cryptic.

It's surprising enough that movies like these are even allowed to premiere anywhere in the U.S., but you can't expect the real and exact solution to show up for millions of viewers to see.

However, still in agreement; that those are hollowed solutions. But purposefully placed; and perhaps, even strategically placed. Not defending their Venus Project though. I agree on that; it's just wishful thinking IMO.

I was somewhat disappointed myself. I liked the first 1 better.

Smells of shills in here.

Thanks for the tip, I'm gonna watch Addendum tomorrow.

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the Federal Reserve


Now that we know the Federal Reserve is a privately owned, for-profit corporation, a natural question would be: who OWNS this company? Peter Kershaw provides the answer in "Economic Solutions" where he lists the ten primary shareholders in the Federal Reserve banking system.

1) The Rothschild Family - London 2) The Rothschild Family - Berlin 3) The Lazard Brothers - Paris 4) Israel Seiff - Italy 5) Kuhn-Loeb Company - Germany 6) The Warburgs - Amsterdam 7) The Warburgs - Hamburg 8) Lehman Brothers - New York 9) Goldman & Sachs - New York 10) The Rockefeller Family - New York
Now I don't know about you, but something is terribly wrong with this situation. Namely, don't we live in AMERICA? If so, why are seven of the top ten stockholders located in FOREIGN countries? That's 70%! To further convey how screwed-up this system is, Jim Marrs provides the following data in his phenomenal book, "Rule By Secrecy.
" He says that the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, which undeniably controls the other eleven Federal Reserve branches, is essentially controlled by two financial institutions:
1) Chase-Manhattan (controlled by the Rockefellers) - 6,389,445 shares - 32.
3%
2) Citbank - 4,051,851 shares - 20.
5%
Thus, these two entities control nearly 53% of the New York Federal Reserve Bank. Doesn't that boggle your mind? Now, considering how many trillions of dollars are involved here, and how the bankers are WAY above our "selected" officials in Washington, D.C., do you think the above-listed banks and families have an inordinate amount of say-so in how our country is being run? The answer is blindingly apparent.

Where does the money come from?
We all know that the Federal Reserve CORPORATION prints money - then loans it, at interest, to our government. But wait until you see what a total scam this process is. But before we get to the meat of this issue, let's remember one thing about the very essence of banking - primarily that money should have some type of standard upon which its value is based. In the case of America, we operate on what is called a "gold standard" (i.e. our money is backed by gold).

So, with that in mind, let's look at how money is actually created, and at what cost. If the Federal Reserve wants to print 1,000 one-hundred ($100) bills, their total cost for ink, paper, plates, labor, etc. would be approximately $23.00 (according to Davvy Kidd in "Why A Bankrupt America"). Now, if you do the math, the total cost of 10,000 bills would be $230.00 ($.023 x 10,000). But, and here's the catch - 10,000 $100 bills equals $1,000,000! So, the Federal Reserve can "create" a million dollars, then LEND it to the U.S. Government (with interest) for a total cost of $230.
00! That's not a bad deal, huh!
The banking industry calls this process "seignorage." I call it outright THEFT. Why? Well, regardless of the immense profit margin ($1,000,000 for $230), plus the huge interest payments, our government then needs to STEAL the American people's money to payoff their debts via a Mob-like agency called the IRS. So the bankers steal from the government, then the government turns around and steals from the people. I'm no genius, but who do you think is getting screwed in this process? US - the people at the bottom rung of the ladder.

What's worse is that - now catch your breath - there's NO MORE gold left in Fort Knox! It's all gone. In other words, the GOLD STANDARD that our financial system was based upon is now an illusion. We can't convert our money into gold --- only other currency. The entire underlying basis for our money is now a lie - a sham. The Federal Reserve has become so arrogant that they've become a literal MONEY MAKING MACHINE, creating currency out of thin air! So that's where the Fed gets their money - they literally make it, then lend it to us so they can make even MORE money off of it.

Money As A Religion
The above-detailed process has become so ridiculous that William Grieder, former assistant managing editor of the Washington Post, wrote a book in 1987 entitled, "Secrets of the Temple: How the Federal Reserve Runs the Country" that details how the Controllers have conditioned us to accept this absurd situation.

To modern minds," he writes, "it seemed bizarre to think of the Federal Reserve as a religious institution. Yet the conspiracy theorists, in their own demented way, were on to something real and significant. The Fed did also function in the realm of religion. Its mysterious powers of money creation, inherited from priestly forebears, shielded a complex bundle of social and psychological meanings. With its own form of secret incantation, the Federal Reserve presided over awesome social ritual, transactions so powerful and frightening they seemed to lie beyond common understanding.
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Mr. Grieder continues, "Above all, money was a function of faith. It required implicit and universal social consent that was indeed mysterious. To create money and use it, each one must believe, and everyone must believe. Only then did worthless pieces of paper take on value.
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Do you get it? MONEY is an ILLUSION! Why? Because the gold standard upon which our money is supposed to be based has been eliminated. There's no more gold in Fort Knox. It's all GONE! Now, money really IS only paper!!! In the past, money was supposed to represent something of tangible value.
Now it's simply paper!
Taken one step further, many of us don't even use paper money any more! Why? Well, here's a scenario. Many places of employment directly deposit their employee's paychecks into the bank. Once the money is there, when bill time comes around, the person in question can write out a stack of checks to pay them. Plus, when they need gasoline they use a credit card; and groceries a debit card. If this person goes out for dinner on Friday night, they can charge the tab on their diner's card. But what about the tip? They simply scribble in the amount at the bottom of the check. So far, the person hasn't spent a single dollar bill. Plus, if you bring electronic banking into the picture, we've virtually eliminated the use for money.
And, God forbid, what happens when encoded microchips are implanted into the backs of our hand?
In essence, money has become nothing more than an illusion - an electronic figure or amount on a computer screen. That's it! As time goes on, we have an increasing tendency toward being sucked into this Wizard of Oz vortex of unreality. Think about it. Americans as a whole are carrying more personal debt than in any other time in history. Plus our government keeps going further and further into the hole, with no hope of ever crawling out. But we have less and less actual MONEY! We're being enslaved by the debt of electronic blips on a computer screen! And 70% of the banks that control this debt via the Federal Reserve exist in foreign countries! What in God's name is going on? As author William Bramley says, "The result of this whole system is MASSIVE debt at every level of society.
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We're getting screwed in a sickening way, folks, and the people doing it are demented magician-priests that use the ILLUSION of money as their control device. And I hate to say it, but if we allow things to keep going as they are, the situation will only get worse. Our only hope ... ONLY HOPE ... is to immediately take drastic action and remedy this crime.

(to be continued)
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Might I add something:

It doesn't matter if the shit is true or not, all that matters is that you start thinking and thereby discover new horizons.

Therefore all those that try to debunk it (falsely or not) and feel proud about it really don't get what Zeitgeist actually is about.
All I've left to say to those is: Wake the fuck up and open your closed minds.

I watched it today. Excellent viewing, and even better than the first. There wasn't a whole lot that I didn't already know at least bits of, but it connects all the dots in an interesting way and makes it digestible for almost anyone.

The Venus Project stuff was something new though. I'd never heard of it (and judging from a quick search here, no one else has either), but I'm sure it will get more attention now. Pretty cool idea, and it seems to be well thought-out too, not just some futuristic wanking.

YES. Very true. Also important to truly realize that the system we live in is just not working (to put it nicely). Once you're at that point, you've cleared the biggest hurdle.

but wait ! - venus = the morning star = lucifer

and you know how they like to give meaningful names to their projects
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Venus stands for love.

Also, you still don't get that this whole concept is about NOT FOLLOWING ANYONE but self-realization and consciousness?

Please, wake up. I send you my love to help you in this.

Can anyone tell me who that old man was?

I would love to see more of his stuff, thanks!



LOVED the movie.

Loved the concept.

for this excellent movie.