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Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 480936
10/4/2008 4:09 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Rather than blanket her with a discrediting innuendos about being paranoid, lets investigate and see if this dog hunts. It could well be that she has a hidden agenda or a very bad source, but lets find out! Too big a story not to, and with over 1 million Iraqis killed it's worth a look!
ambiguity unlimited Subscriber
User ID: 517360
10/4/2008 4:10 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Okay...valuable debunking material here...

However, according to these reports, the Pentagon, not the state ordered the executions...Would the Pentagon really worry about the job security of prison officials in Louisiana?
 Quoting: markusmaximus

it isnt just prison officials.... politicians base their campaigns on "law and order".... lawyers, judges, police, jailers, construction companies, food vendors, manufacturers of uniforms, and a myriad of other industries profit from prisoners.... the parole of one prisoner cost michael dukkakis a presidential bid... the us marshals, fbi, dea, and many more "alphabet agencies" use them for justification of their jobs, and budgets.... the propaganda uses for prisoners are huge.... just look at the black on white crime, illegal alien crime, and other "us versus them" crime posts in this forum...... prisoners equal profit for alot of people.... killing prisoners isnt in "america's interest", and our military's sole job lately would seem to be securing profit for american industry.... counter-productive to off 5000 cash-cows......
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Zilla
User ID: 512956
10/4/2008 4:10 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Looters?


I'm not so sure about looters...

First of all, a single gun shot wound to kill indicates close-quarters killing...Which also indicates a person with little freedom to escape...

Prisoners are confined in very small spaces/rooms. Therefore, it would be easy to shoot them once and have it count.

Looters, on the other hand, are typically looting in situations which are less than advantageous for a single shot kill...

And then the number...killing 5,000 looters seems less unlikely than removing 5,000 people who would be inherently dangerous to the population should they escape...

This sounds like Bush's Pentagon might have been using some of his self-granted "catastrophic emergency" rights...
 Quoting: markusmaximus
Good Point, maybe captured and executed?
My signature is whatever name is on that check.
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Zilla
User ID: 512956
10/4/2008 4:11 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Looters?


I'm not so sure about looters...

First of all, a single gun shot wound to kill indicates close-quarters killing...Which also indicates a person with little freedom to escape...

Prisoners are confined in very small spaces/rooms. Therefore, it would be easy to shoot them once and have it count.

Looters, on the other hand, are typically looting in situations which are less than advantageous for a single shot kill...

And then the number...killing 5,000 looters seems less unlikely than removing 5,000 people who would be inherently dangerous to the population should they escape...

This sounds like Bush's Pentagon might have been using some of his self-granted "catastrophic emergency" rights...
Good Point, maybe captured and executed?
 Quoting: RememberThis
I cant see 5,000 looters either
My signature is whatever name is on that check.
markusmaximus Subscriber
Rawr.
User ID: 517436
10/4/2008 4:11 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Georgia Democratic Senator Zell Miller called McKinney "loony" and "outrageous" for her uppity belief that she has the duty and responsibility to put the interests of America before the interests of her political career. How dare she hold such a belief?
 Quoting: StevenS


Don't you find it funny that a federal government, which claims to "serve out needs," finds it an insane task to thoroughly investigate an issue which many, many people are upset about and want answer to?
What? You think you're the only person that gets sick when he doesn't get his jellybeans?
markusmaximus Subscriber
Rawr.
User ID: 517436
10/4/2008 4:12 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Be careful She is a communist and will say or do anything to bring down the USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 515648


On what grounds is she a Communist?
What? You think you're the only person that gets sick when he doesn't get his jellybeans?
markusmaximus Subscriber
Rawr.
User ID: 517436
10/4/2008 4:12 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Rather than blanket her with a discrediting innuendos about being paranoid, lets investigate and see if this dog hunts. It could well be that she has a hidden agenda or a very bad source, but lets find out! Too big a story not to, and with over 1 million Iraqis killed it's worth a look!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 480936


Agreed. A little bit of information never hurt ANYBODY.
What? You think you're the only person that gets sick when he doesn't get his jellybeans?
markusmaximus Subscriber
Rawr.
User ID: 517436
10/4/2008 4:15 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Okay...valuable debunking material here...

However, according to these reports, the Pentagon, not the state ordered the executions...Would the Pentagon really worry about the job security of prison officials in Louisiana?

it isnt just prison officials.... politicians base their campaigns on "law and order".... lawyers, judges, police, jailers, construction companies, food vendors, manufacturers of uniforms, and a myriad of other industries profit from prisoners.... the parole of one prisoner cost michael dukkakis a presidential bid... the us marshals, fbi, dea, and many more "alphabet agencies" use them for justification of their jobs, and budgets.... the propaganda uses for prisoners are huge.... just look at the black on white crime, illegal alien crime, and other "us versus them" crime posts in this forum...... prisoners equal profit for alot of people.... killing prisoners isnt in "america's interest", and our military's sole job lately would seem to be securing profit for american industry.... counter-productive to off 5000 cash-cows......
 Quoting: ambiguity unlimited


Ok, now this is excellent...Really thinking through the problem.

Alright well, you've convinced me: these probably weren't prisoners...

Who could they have been? Because I am still not convinced that this young soldier didn't experience what he claims.

If he saw 5,000 bodies, what/who were they to have been shot and killed like that?

Was Blackwater operating in that area during Katrina?
What? You think you're the only person that gets sick when he doesn't get his jellybeans?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 517353
10/4/2008 4:15 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

"Psychologists and psychology professors contacted by FOXNews.com wouldn't comment on McKinney's mental condition, but they expressed shock at her assertion."




“Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008”
(BAILOUT BILL)

The two most chilling measures put into this new law are titled “Section 511 "Paul Wellstone and Pete Domenici Mental Health Parity and Addiction Equity Act of 2008” and “TITLE II-SPECIAL PROJECTS ON FEDERAL LAND Section 201”.

The new mental health provisions contained in these new laws allows the United States to label dissident citizens as being ‘mentally ill’, and the ‘Special Projects’ section allows for the reimbursement to US cities and counties for the building of holding camps for these mentally ill dissidents.





October 1, 2008
The US House has passed a $630 billion-plus spending bill that wraps together a record Pentagon budget.

The legislation, which senators are expected to approve and send to President George W. Bush for his signature, is flying under the political radar compared with the White House's contentious plan to bail out Wall Street.

The spending bill, which was passed 370-58, is fueled by a need to keep the government running past the start of the new budget year. Passage also was greased by 2,322 pet projects totaling $6.6 billion.

The measure is dominated by $488 billion for the Pentagon, $40 billion for the Homeland Security Department and $73 billion for military construction projects.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 461373
10/4/2008 4:17 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Better keep an eye on this.
bump


YOU COULD BE NEXT!
StevenS
User ID: 365611
10/4/2008 4:17 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Don't you find it funny that a federal government, which claims to "serve out needs," finds it an insane task to thoroughly investigate an issue which many, many people are upset about and want answer to?
 Quoting: markusmaximus


Sign of the times...

Yes, and this is one of any number of stories, like the Diebold scandal/The stolen elections; the missing Pentagon trillions; 9/11; the hidden mic stuff during presedential debates; that are almost completely ignored or under-investigated, if at all, by the media. In previous decades, any of the above would have been enough to force resignations, independent investigations and front-page scandal; now, they're considered 'lunacy' or lacking in any more importance than the results of Dancing with the Stars.
[link to www.salvatorepublishing.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 517353
10/4/2008 4:18 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

"Psychologists and psychology professors contacted by FOXNews.com wouldn't comment on McKinney's mental condition, but they expressed shock at her assertion."




“Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008”
(BAILOUT BILL)

The two most chilling measures put into this new law are titled “Section 511 "Paul Wellstone and Pete Domenici Mental Health Parity and Addiction Equity Act of 2008” and “TITLE II-SPECIAL PROJECTS ON FEDERAL LAND Section 201”.

The new mental health provisions contained in these new laws allows the United States to label dissident citizens as being ‘mentally ill’, and the ‘Special Projects’ section allows for the reimbursement to US cities and counties for the building of holding camps for these mentally ill dissidents.





October 1, 2008
The US House has passed a $630 billion-plus spending bill that wraps together a record Pentagon budget.

The legislation, which senators are expected to approve and send to President George W. Bush for his signature, is flying under the political radar compared with the White House's contentious plan to bail out Wall Street.

The spending bill, which was passed 370-58, is fueled by a need to keep the government running past the start of the new budget year. Passage also was greased by 2,322 pet projects totaling $6.6 billion.

The measure is dominated by $488 billion for the Pentagon, $40 billion for the Homeland Security Department and $73 billion for military construction projects.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 517353
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275333
10/4/2008 4:19 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Rather than blanket her with a discrediting innuendos about being paranoid, lets investigate and see if this dog hunts. It could well be that she has a hidden agenda or a very bad source, but lets find out! Too big a story not to, and with over 1 million Iraqis killed it's worth a look!


Agreed. A little bit of information never hurt ANYBODY.
 Quoting: markusmaximus


Agreed.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 517353
10/4/2008 4:21 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

"Psychologists and psychology professors contacted by FOXNews.com wouldn't comment on McKinney's mental condition, but they expressed shock at her assertion."




“Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008”
(BAILOUT BILL)

The two most chilling measures put into this new law are titled “Section 511 "Paul Wellstone and Pete Domenici Mental Health Parity and Addiction Equity Act of 2008” and “TITLE II-SPECIAL PROJECTS ON FEDERAL LAND Section 201”.

The new mental health provisions contained in these new laws allows the United States to label dissident citizens as being ‘mentally ill’, and the ‘Special Projects’ section allows for the reimbursement to US cities and counties for the building of holding camps for these mentally ill dissidents.





October 1, 2008
The US House has passed a $630 billion-plus spending bill that wraps together a record Pentagon budget.

The legislation, which senators are expected to approve and send to President George W. Bush for his signature, is flying under the political radar compared with the White House's contentious plan to bail out Wall Street.

The spending bill, which was passed 370-58, is fueled by a need to keep the government running past the start of the new budget year. Passage also was greased by 2,322 pet projects totaling $6.6 billion.

The measure is dominated by $488 billion for the Pentagon, $40 billion for the Homeland Security Department and $73 billion for military construction projects.
markusmaximus Subscriber
Rawr.
User ID: 517436
10/4/2008 4:21 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

"Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008”
(BAILOUT BILL)

The two most chilling measures put into this new law are titled “Section 511 "Paul Wellstone and Pete Domenici Mental Health Parity and Addiction Equity Act of 2008” and “TITLE II-SPECIAL PROJECTS ON FEDERAL LAND Section 201”.

The new mental health provisions contained in these new laws allows the United States to label dissident citizens as being ‘mentally ill’, and the ‘Special Projects’ section allows for the reimbursement to US cities and counties for the building of holding camps for these mentally ill dissidents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 517353


damned

Wow, that is FUCKED UP.
What? You think you're the only person that gets sick when he doesn't get his jellybeans?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 516841
10/4/2008 4:22 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

“Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008”
(BAILOUT BILL)

The two most chilling measures put into this new law are titled “Section 511 "Paul Wellstone and Pete Domenici Mental Health Parity and Addiction Equity Act of 2008” and “TITLE II-SPECIAL PROJECTS ON FEDERAL LAND Section 201”.

The new mental health provisions contained in these new laws allows the United States to label dissident citizens as being ‘mentally ill’, and the ‘Special Projects’ section allows for the reimbursement to US cities and counties for the building of holding camps for these mentally ill dissidents.


October 1, 2008
The US House has passed a $630 billion-plus spending bill that wraps together a record Pentagon budget.

The legislation, which senators are expected to approve and send to President George W. Bush for his signature, is flying under the political radar compared with the White House's contentious plan to bail out Wall Street.

The spending bill, which was passed 370-58, is fueled by a need to keep the government running past the start of the new budget year. Passage also was greased by 2,322 pet projects totaling $6.6 billion.

The measure is dominated by $488 billion for the Pentagon, $40 billion for the Homeland Security Department and $73 billion for military construction projects.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 517353


Link, please. Every time I try to download this bill, it is unavailable, and on the Speaker's website, it even comes up completely blank in the PDF. I need to see this info first hand in the context of the document.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 480936
10/4/2008 4:25 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

[link to www.npr.org]

Here's a start. Maybe it is possable! Could be data is off a little (5,000 is an even #, highly unlikely to be accurate). There are many articles of missing prisoners in the secrit CIA jails. We need to know rather than just blow her off!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 517353
10/4/2008 4:29 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Might not be the first time prisoners were "disposed" of during a catastrophy....


Many reports that the bodies found in Pentagon wreckage were wearing orange jumpsuits...

[link to eyeball-series.org]

check pic above, guy still has ID clipped to him.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 517353
10/4/2008 4:32 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Might not be the first time prisoners were "disposed" of during a catastrophy....


Many reports that the bodies found in Pentagon wreckage were wearing orange jumpsuits...

[link to eyeball-series.org]

check pic above, guy still has ID clipped to him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 517353



Of course they could be janitors so, take it how you will.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 516841
10/4/2008 4:33 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

I am combing through the sections of the bill stated above and can find none of these alleged claims. If someone could point me to specifics, that'd be appreciated.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 517353
10/4/2008 4:35 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

I am combing through the sections of the bill stated above and can find none of these alleged claims. If someone could point me to specifics, that'd be appreciated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 516841



Then try googling it! [link to www.opencongress.org]


Not the full text, but it's in there.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 516841
10/4/2008 4:36 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

I am combing through the sections of the bill stated above and can find none of these alleged claims. If someone could point me to specifics, that'd be appreciated.

Then try googling it! [link to www.opencongress.org]


Not the full text, but it's in there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 517353


Still nothing about labeling dissidents as mentally ill persons.
markusmaximus Subscriber
Rawr.
User ID: 517436
10/4/2008 4:37 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

I am combing through the sections of the bill stated above and can find none of these alleged claims. If someone could point me to specifics, that'd be appreciated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 516841


I can't seem to locate it either...

However, the act of imprisoning someone based on "psychological prognosis" is nothing new...

[link to www.independent.co.uk]

Russian dissident 'forcibly detained in mental hospital'

A Russian opposition activist has been forcibly detained in a psychiatric clinic near the Arctic city of Murmansk, the chess champion turned dissident Garry Kasparov said yesterday.


The move was revenge by the authorities for an article in which the activist, Larisa Arap, 48, criticised practices in children's mental health wards, Mr Kasparov said.

Ms Arap, a member of Mr Kasparov's United Civil Front, is being medicated against her will, he claimed.

Activists say this is not the first case of politically motivated, enforced admission to hospital in President Vladimir Putin's Russia, and have condemned the move as redolent of the Soviet era. Mr Kasparov said: "It could happen if you attack the interests of the local Gazprom, the local military base, the local medical mafia. Attacking the interests of local bureaucrats is a terrible risk, because they don't stop at anything to get their own back."

(visit link for full article)
What? You think you're the only person that gets sick when he doesn't get his jellybeans?
ambiguity unlimited Subscriber
User ID: 517360
10/4/2008 4:38 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Ok, now this is excellent...Really thinking through the problem.

Alright well, you've convinced me: these probably weren't prisoners...

Who could they have been? Because I am still not convinced that this young soldier didn't experience what he claims.

If he saw 5,000 bodies, what/who were they to have been shot and killed like that?

Was Blackwater operating in that area during Katrina?
 Quoting: markusmaximus

ok, on to the kid's confiding in mom.....the military secrecy oath is really respected by those that would be selected for such a mission..... this wouldnt be a "round up a couple of infantry units, ive got a job for them" kind of assignment.... the personel (even the truck drivers, and road guards) would be handpicked.... these would be the ultra-patriotic, ends justify the means folks.... they would be troops that had participated in "dirty tricks" before..... the boys and girls that have actively participated in the scams, crimes, and treasons that have shown the ability to keep their mouths shut..... spilling your guts to a relative would put both the paticipant, and the relative in danger of silencing(whether by a treason charge, a trip to a hospital, or just being "disappeared").... why would junior put mom in that position? now, assuming he did, why would mom (having been cautioned about the danger of revealing such info), spill her guts to a third party political candidate? such a person could offer no protection, security, or hope of action to mother or son..... the whole scenario holds very little water..... it reeks of one of the all too frequent threads here where an AC posts "my uncle's stepson's barber's best friend's hunting partner's nephew, who works for the NWO, says....".... it truly lacks credibility
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 517353
10/4/2008 4:40 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

I am combing through the sections of the bill stated above and can find none of these alleged claims. If someone could point me to specifics, that'd be appreciated.

Then try googling it! [link to www.opencongress.org]


Not the full text, but it's in there.


Still nothing about labeling dissidents as mentally ill persons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 516841



I know, I just got that information from another thread and found it applicable to the McKinney ordeal. FOX contacting phsychiatrists seemed too transparent in light of the Mental Health thing. I put the two together like a good conspiracy theorist does:)

Remember this site is for entertainment!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 516841
10/4/2008 4:41 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

I can't seem to locate it either...

However, the act of imprisoning someone based on "psychological prognosis" is nothing new...
 Quoting: markusmaximus


Yes, but were it specifically signed into law and buried in this bill, it would be 1) frightening, and 2) frighteninger.

wtf
markusmaximus Subscriber
Rawr.
User ID: 517436
10/4/2008 4:45 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

I can't seem to locate it either...

However, the act of imprisoning someone based on "psychological prognosis" is nothing new...



Yes, but were it specifically signed into law and buried in this bill, it would be 1) frightening, and 2) frighteninger.

wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 516841


No, I agree with you! If it did exist, it would be modeled after the legislation of countries who already abuse their citizens.
What? You think you're the only person that gets sick when he doesn't get his jellybeans?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 517353
10/4/2008 4:50 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

I can't seem to locate it either...

However, the act of imprisoning someone based on "psychological prognosis" is nothing new...



Yes, but were it specifically signed into law and buried in this bill, it would be 1) frightening, and 2) frighteninger.

wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 516841



[link to thomas.loc.gov]
plot
User ID: 272341
10/4/2008 4:52 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

Be careful She is a communist and will say or do anything to bring down the USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 515648

that's an old chestnut -
didn't the reese committee's investigation of tax-exempt foundations find that they
were set up specifically to merge the communist system with the american capitalist one ?

and that's the rockefeller, carnegie, ford ,etc foundations
we're talking about
.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514132
10/4/2008 4:52 PM
Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.Quote

that biatch is bat shit racist
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