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Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina.
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markusmaximus 
Rawr.
User ID: 517436
10/4/2008 4:52 PM
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Ok, now this is excellent...Really thinking through the problem.
Alright well, you've convinced me: these probably weren't prisoners...
Who could they have been? Because I am still not convinced that this young soldier didn't experience what he claims.
If he saw 5,000 bodies, what/who were they to have been shot and killed like that?
Was Blackwater operating in that area during Katrina?
ok, on to the kid's confiding in mom.....the military secrecy oath is really respected by those that would be selected for such a mission..... this wouldnt be a "round up a couple of infantry units, ive got a job for them" kind of assignment.... the personel (even the truck drivers, and road guards) would be handpicked.... these would be the ultra-patriotic, ends justify the means folks.... they would be troops that had participated in "dirty tricks" before..... the boys and girls that have actively participated in the scams, crimes, and treasons that have shown the ability to keep their mouths shut..... spilling your guts to a relative would put both the paticipant, and the relative in danger of silencing(whether by a treason charge, a trip to a hospital, or just being "disappeared").... why would junior put mom in that position? now, assuming he did, why would mom (having been cautioned about the danger of revealing such info), spill her guts to a third party political candidate? such a person could offer no protection, security, or hope of action to mother or son..... the whole scenario holds very little water..... it reeks of one of the all too frequent threads here where an AC posts "my uncle's stepson's barber's best friend's hunting partner's nephew, who works for the NWO, says....".... it truly lacks credibility Quoting: ambiguity unlimited
Alright, it looks like the truth-hinges of the story are fixed on the source(s) of the incredible claim.
The ONLY thing I can think of is the RACE issue.
Bear with me...
This is Lousisiana we're talking about...Which means the possibility of this being a black soldier (probably was Nat'l Guard since he was in-country operating during a disaster) is large.
So, a black soldier "processes" 5,000 mostly black corpses.
From a racial standpoint, this would be upsetting to the guy, especially if he's part of the growing number of people who are highly suspicious of this government.
So, he tells his black mother.
Who is so outraged, she tells another black woman. Who happens to be running for President.
I don't know AU...I still have trouble dismissing it...
What? You think you're the only person that gets sick when he doesn't get his jellybeans? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507870
10/4/2008 4:53 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
Wow, she says that that the victims were probably all prisoners.
I guess it was just easier to shoot them than transport them... Quoting: markusmaximus |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 516841
10/4/2008 4:54 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 517353
I may not have an amazing grasp of legalese, but nothing in this validates the claims made above. If someone more versed in this cares to look, go ahead, but I don't see it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473807
10/4/2008 5:07 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
Used to watch McKinney back in the years when she was a US House Rep (and much skinnier), loved watching house debates for years, anyway she did not appear too looney back then, but was confrontational, and direct to the point, but nothing that would suggest mental issues. |
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markusmaximus
Rawr.
User ID: 517436
10/4/2008 5:10 PM
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Used to watch McKinney back in the years when she was a US House Rep (and much skinnier), loved watching house debates for years, anyway she did not appear too looney back then, but was confrontational, and direct to the point, but nothing that would suggest mental issues. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473807
She isn't crazy.
She's doing something pretty damned patriotic, and that is to question the actions, even the alleged actions, of the federal government, which is a representative BODY of people who serve THE PEOPLE.
Trying to shed light on a horrible incident is a citizen's responsibility, don't you agree?
What? You think you're the only person that gets sick when he doesn't get his jellybeans? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275333
10/4/2008 5:12 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
PIN THIS, MODS!
WE, THE PEOPLE, DEMAND TO BE HEARD!!  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473807
10/4/2008 5:15 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
"Trying to shed light on a horrible incident is a citizen's responsibility, don't you agree?"
totally agree, but you must be careful to have as much proof as possible before you go public. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471491
10/4/2008 5:18 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471491
10/4/2008 5:19 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
she is a total nut job Quoting: Anonymous Coward 511313
THAT is a gross understatement!
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ambiguity unlimited
User ID: 517360
10/4/2008 5:19 PM
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Alright, it looks like the truth-hinges of the story are fixed on the source(s) of the incredible claim.
The ONLY thing I can think of is the RACE issue.
Bear with me...
This is Lousisiana we're talking about...Which means the possibility of this being a black soldier (probably was Nat'l Guard since he was in-country operating during a disaster) is large.
So, a black soldier "processes" 5,000 mostly black corpses.
From a racial standpoint, this would be upsetting to the guy, especially if he's part of the growing number of people who are highly suspicious of this government.
So, he tells his black mother.
Who is so outraged, she tells another black woman. Who happens to be running for President.
I don't know AU...I still have trouble dismissing it... Quoting: markusmaximus
you miss the point....no NG trooper that had been brought out for the relief effort would even be allowed close to such an operation...you're talking "school of the americas" kind of stuff.... put yourself in the position of the person assigned to pull this operation off.... you have to be assured of COMPLETE secrecy.... not a whisper of it could ever be made public.... with a mandate of such magnitude, would you allow even 1 participant that you werent 100% sure of their "loyalty to the mission" to be involved even in the most periphreal capacity? you really cant even make a case for the dumping of "bodies".... the victims of such a scheme would be run through a wood chipper, or some similar destructive means of rendering them unrecognizable, and then dumped in a way that assures they would never be traced.... this would be about 1 million pounds of humans (5000 x 200 lbs)....that would be 25 tractor trailer loads of people....why wouldnt they just put them in shipping containers, and dump them at sea? if you look at the logistics, the mandate that would be involved, and the supposed method of disposal, it's a truly impossible story....there would be evidence all over that swamp... folks would be finding bones, and other body parts for years.... |
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markusmaximus
Rawr.
User ID: 517436
10/4/2008 5:20 PM
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"Trying to shed light on a horrible incident is a citizen's responsibility, don't you agree?"
totally agree, but you must be careful to have as much proof as possible before you go public. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473807
Unless you're having trouble getting cooperation from the very departments who would need to investigate to obtain proof.
Then you must go public to sway the opinion of the masses.
That's when unpopular investigations get rolling.
What? You think you're the only person that gets sick when he doesn't get his jellybeans? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 517494
10/4/2008 5:32 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
she is a total nut job
I dunno... Quoting: markusmaximus
Don't know about that. I've known a alot of "nutjobs" who told the truth. The woman might not be perfect, but she has shown a lot of guts. So, of course, you would call her a "nutjob," I guess. |
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ambiguity unlimited
User ID: 517360
10/4/2008 5:32 PM
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have any one of you bothered to look up what the conference she was adressing was about? the organizations agenda? it's an anti-prison organization..... also notice that she makes sure to distance herself from the claims....3rd hand info on the original claim, and "i have confirmation from an insider, who wishes to remain confidential"... watch her body language as she speaks....she's bullshitting activists, to try and get votes.... |
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markusmaximus
Rawr.
User ID: 517436
10/4/2008 5:34 PM
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Alright, it looks like the truth-hinges of the story are fixed on the source(s) of the incredible claim.
The ONLY thing I can think of is the RACE issue.
Bear with me...
This is Lousisiana we're talking about...Which means the possibility of this being a black soldier (probably was Nat'l Guard since he was in-country operating during a disaster) is large.
So, a black soldier "processes" 5,000 mostly black corpses.
From a racial standpoint, this would be upsetting to the guy, especially if he's part of the growing number of people who are highly suspicious of this government.
So, he tells his black mother.
Who is so outraged, she tells another black woman. Who happens to be running for President.
I don't know AU...I still have trouble dismissing it...
you miss the point....no NG trooper that had been brought out for the relief effort would even be allowed close to such an operation...you're talking "school of the americas" kind of stuff.... put yourself in the position of the person assigned to pull this operation off.... you have to be assured of COMPLETE secrecy.... not a whisper of it could ever be made public.... with a mandate of such magnitude, would you allow even 1 participant that you werent 100% sure of their "loyalty to the mission" to be involved even in the most periphreal capacity? you really cant even make a case for the dumping of "bodies".... the victims of such a scheme would be run through a wood chipper, or some similar destructive means of rendering them unrecognizable, and then dumped in a way that assures they would never be traced.... this would be about 1 million pounds of humans (5000 x 200 lbs)....that would be 25 tractor trailer loads of people....why wouldnt they just put them in shipping containers, and dump them at sea? if you look at the logistics, the mandate that would be involved, and the supposed method of disposal, it's a truly impossible story....there would be evidence all over that swamp... folks would be finding bones, and other body parts for years.... Quoting: ambiguity unlimited
Alright...
What if it's just a case of exaggerated numbers...What if "5000" is more like 500?
That's certainly attrocious and easier to pull off...
What? You think you're the only person that gets sick when he doesn't get his jellybeans? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 365611
10/4/2008 5:35 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
have any one of you bothered to look up what the conference she was adressing was about? the organizations agenda? it's an anti-prison organization..... also notice that she makes sure to distance herself from the claims....3rd hand info on the original claim, and "i have confirmation from an insider, who wishes to remain confidential"... watch her body language as she speaks....she's bullshitting activists, to try and get votes.... Quoting: ambiguity unlimited
That may well be true - who knows? But what troubles me is that no-one, it seems, has truly taken her to task (merely slandered her) or fully investigated her claims. |
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Duncan Kunz
The Debunker King
User ID: 502051
10/4/2008 5:42 PM
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I just read the Project Vote Smart writeup on her
[link to www.vote-smart.org]
She makes people like Dennis Kucinich seem actually sane.
July 10, 2002 - July 10, 2008
Six Years as the Debunker King on GLP! |
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ambiguity unlimited
User ID: 517360
10/4/2008 5:51 PM
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Alright...
What if it's just a case of exaggerated numbers...What if "5000" is more like 500?
That's certainly attrocious and easier to pull off... Quoting: markusmaximus
in the vid, she claims it has been verified by an "insider".... she claim coroboration by the red cross.... those 2 statements mean the numbers are accurate.... it's either bullshit, or not....it's a politician lying, to get support by an activist group... it happens in the black communities all the time... the politicians know they wont be questioned as to authenticity by the people, and anyone that does point out inaccuracies, is working for "the man"..... please dont label this a racist statement, im not trying to forward an agenda, and really do believe we are all brothers in this world... but, if one observes, ethnic politicians tend to get away with alot, because their constituencies tend to disbelieve the facts when they get caught....look at marion barry, art tiel, joe carollo, and a host of others.... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470906
10/4/2008 5:52 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
I just read the Project Vote Smart writeup on her
[ link to www.vote-smart.org]
She makes people like Dennis Kucinich seem actually sane.
Fuck you, you government paid shill. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. At least Mckinney and Kucinich are and were trying to do their damn jobs. More than I can say about the rest of our legislative branch. |
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Jeanne
User ID: 516933
10/4/2008 5:57 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
"Psychologists and psychology professors contacted by FOXNews.com wouldn't comment on McKinney's mental condition, but they expressed shock at her assertion."
“Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008”
(BAILOUT BILL)
The two most chilling measures put into this new law are titled “Section 511 "Paul Wellstone and Pete Domenici Mental Health Parity and Addiction Equity Act of 2008” and “TITLE II-SPECIAL PROJECTS ON FEDERAL LAND Section 201”.
The new mental health provisions contained in these new laws allows the United States to label dissident citizens as being ‘mentally ill’, and the ‘Special Projects’ section allows for the reimbursement to US cities and counties for the building of holding camps for these mentally ill dissidents.
I am very happy that I do not live in USA with this kind of mercyless government.
October 1, 2008
The US House has passed a $630 billion-plus spending bill that wraps together a record Pentagon budget.
The legislation, which senators are expected to approve and send to President George W. Bush for his signature, is flying under the political radar compared with the White House's contentious plan to bail out Wall Street.
The spending bill, which was passed 370-58, is fueled by a need to keep the government running past the start of the new budget year. Passage also was greased by 2,322 pet projects totaling $6.6 billion.
The measure is dominated by $488 billion for the Pentagon, $40 billion for the Homeland Security Department and $73 billion for military construction projects. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 517353
I am very happy that I do not live in USA with this kind of government without mercy.
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joe
User ID: 272341
10/4/2008 6:04 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
The new mental health provisions contained in these new laws allows the United States to label dissident citizens as being ‘mentally ill’, and the ‘Special Projects’ section allows for the reimbursement to US cities and counties for the building of holding camps for these mentally ill dissidents. Quoting: Jeanne 516933
if this isn't stalinism, then what is ?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 509309
10/5/2008 9:08 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
"they dumped the bodies in the louisiana swamps.."
great, then there should be lots of evidence.
get yourself and all your supporters over there and start
searching if you want justice for those poor
souls shot in the head like you say you do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475771
If they dumpem in day buy-YOOOOOO, then we be should look for dem crawdad as big as alleygator!
And fen we go findem alleygator as big as FEMA trailor!
Bon Temps sumpin sumpin.
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ATTC
User ID: 516748
10/9/2008 7:58 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
So, why would this soldier go home and lie to his mother about this?
Wouldn't that be disturbing to the mother?
And why would this mother who told McKinney about it lie, and potentially endanger her son's career in the military? (since he signed a confidentiality agreement)
Analyze these questions... Quoting: markusmaximus
They don't want to analyze the questions. It's easier to dismiss McKinney as a "loon".
Never mind all the atrocities our government has shown us its capable of committing.
I personally don't doubt at all that they would have the temerity to do something like this especially against poor black people. |
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ATTC
User ID: 516748
10/9/2008 8:23 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
Used to watch McKinney back in the years when she was a US House Rep (and much skinnier), loved watching house debates for years, anyway she did not appear too looney back then, but was confrontational, and direct to the point, but nothing that would suggest mental issues. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473807
That's because she's NOT crazy.
She was a very well respected politician. She was the first black woman to represent the state of Georgia in Congress and she did a dang good job. Ever since she was elected in 1992 everyone loved Cynthia McKinney.
She even got honored with a portion of a very major street in her district named after her. And even a portion of a Highway was named after her father.
Then she questioned the official story of 9/11. Immediately after that she went from no competition to losing the 2002 election and her political career hasn't been able to recover since.
The same thing happened to Max Cleland. He was on the 9/11 Commission but he called out the Commission as a fraud and all of a sudden his political career is over as well as advertisements of his opponent are linking him to Osama bin laden
This is what happens when in any way you challenge TPTB. At the very least you lose your job. Sometimes it's even worse and they take your life. |
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David
User ID: 533476
10/23/2008 4:54 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
After a month in New Orleans watching the police and miltary have their drunken machine-gun brandishing party they arrested for me for nothing outside my own home in the middle of the night. They imprisoned me, without charge trial, phone call or notice to my family of whether I was alive or dead, for 4 and a half months in the maximum security section of Elayn Hunt maximum security prison PO box 174 Saint Gabriel LA 70776 cell block Beaver 4, Tier C, Cell 7 under the "evac" number 2668. Also in block Beaver 4 were 200 other innocent men as well as several hundred in other cell blocks. Not to mention the guards and news rumored that there were 7000 Katrina "arrestees" scattered in prisons all over the country. Also brought to "Hunt" were the bodies of the Katrina dead.
With no means of release by trial or by making bail less than half of those imprisoned whem I was taken captive remained when I was released. After their disapearances they were replaced with new arrestees. The guards enforced their power over us with threats of how easy it would be "to just add our bodies to the pile they already have". |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507286
10/23/2008 7:45 PM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
Might not be the first time prisoners were "disposed" of during a catastrophy....
Many reports that the bodies found in Pentagon wreckage were wearing orange jumpsuits...
[ link to eyeball-series.org]
check pic above, guy still has ID clipped to him. |
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Powerfulbender
User ID: 537174
10/28/2008 10:32 AM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
This is absolutely absurd! To think the United States Government would even allow this kind of atrocity... and then on top of that cover it up?!????!!! NO WAY! That would be like saying they would infect four hundred prisoners in Chicago with Malaria in order to study the effects, or inject babies with an experimental measles vaccine and never tell the parents it wasn't a licensed vaccine, or expose Desert Storm soldiers to chemical agents and lie about until their backs were up against the wall. This is a crazy accusation. Our government would never deceive us or cover ANYTHING up! Please save it! This woman must be nuts! After all... those soldiers who tried to say they were sick after Desert Storm - they were crazy too! And that movie, the "Tuskegee Experiment" ALL LIES! People need to stop believing any old thing people say about the government. We have had nothing but TRUTH & TRANSPARENCY from our leaders. Trust first... think later. It's worked this long. If it ain't broke don't fix it! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 63568
10/28/2008 10:37 AM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
Can't any of you smell disinformation being fed to a former black Congresswoman and now 9/11 truther in order to discredit her, so that no one takes seriously what she is now saying about 9/11 being an inside job? It's called cointelpro. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487397
10/28/2008 10:45 AM | | Re: Jesus. Cynthia McKinney on camera saying that 5,000 people were EXECUTED (single gun shot) in Katrina. | Quote |
This is absolutely absurd! To think the United States Government would even allow this kind of atrocity... and then on top of that cover it up?!????!!! NO WAY! That would be like saying they would infect four hundred prisoners in Chicago with Malaria in order to study the effects, or inject babies with an experimental measles vaccine and never tell the parents it wasn't a licensed vaccine, or expose Desert Storm soldiers to chemical agents and lie about until their backs were up against the wall. This is a crazy accusation. Our government would never deceive us or cover ANYTHING up! Please save it! This woman must be nuts! After all... those soldiers who tried to say they were sick after Desert Storm - they were crazy too! And that movie, the "Tuskegee Experiment" ALL LIES! People need to stop believing any old thing people say about the government. We have had nothing but TRUTH & TRANSPARENCY from our leaders. Trust first... think later. It's worked this long. If it ain't broke don't fix it! Quoting: Powerfulbender 537174
we are ever so fucked. |
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