ZetaTalk LIVE Chat October 4

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Aloha Nancy and Zetas,

How high will the Hawaiian plate be pushed during the compression of the Pacific?

Mahalo!

Will food shortages occur before the shift?

Pre-written re Steve Fossett ...

SOZT
At the time of Steve Fossett’s disappearance in a bright light blue plane, the largest aerial search ever was conducted. Google Earth provided fresh satellite images of the region so that the public could assist. The California Civil Air Patrol conducted no less than 19 flights over the area where the plane wreckage is now found. How does a bright light blue and white plane get MISSED when it is thrown against rock at a high altitude and not lost in overgrowth of vegetation as it might be in a jungle. It doesn’t. It as recently planted there. We stated at the time that Fossett had landed at Area 51, and intended to be deliberately lost to the world. He wanted to end his career on a high note, and feared a steady decline as he aged. He wanted a new adventure. He left the on this last flight without his special locator wrist watch, a gift from his wife. He left without filing a flight plan. Why then, a full year since his disappearance, has his plane and other effects been planted where they would easily be found?

Mankind loves an unsolved mystery, and without a closing note on the Steve Fossett disappearance there would always be those dedicating themselves to the search. So went the logic among those in charge of Area 51. The small single-engine plane was taken from the hanger where it had been stored at Area 51 and hung beneath a military chopper by a cable. The plane was released over the mountains, virtually flung against the mountainside during a maneuver by the chopper which slung the small plane during a right-angle turn. This maneuver released the cable grip on the plane and sent the plane at high speed into a cliff while the chopper was off to the side, avoiding the cliff. All this occurred under cover of night, with the lights off, but good visibility due to moon light. When the plane was not discovered promptly, due to the search of the area having been called off, Fossett’s ID and some money were planted on a hiking path. What are the odds of a wild animal dragging the ID and some money to a path? Would an animal be interested in the contents of a wallet, which would have been snug in some pocket in any case.

The final piece to putting this mystery to rest is identification of body parts. Conveniently, some small bone which could provide DNA has been found. Did Area 51 personnel chop a finger off Steve Fossett for this gambit? DNA verification has two parts – the DNA from the victim and the DNA on file somewhere, perhaps as indentification during licensing or in medical files. It is a simple matter of determining WHERE Fossett’s DNA charts and samples reside and replacing them with DNA from some other cadaver whose body AREA 51 has in their possession. Who were Fossett’s doctors? Which hospitals had done tests? What special licenses had he sought and obtained? Click, click, click and any DNA charts or frozen samples taken for DNA testing are replaced. Does the CIA and DOD intel know who to break into a lab and effect such a swap? A locked door might stand between the perpetrators of such a swap and the samples to be swapped, but DNA samples are not under guard or considered a high priority. As with the DNA proof that the man hanged as Saddam Hussein was indeed the dictator of Iraq, the question is begged. WHO was in possession of the file copies used for comparison. In the case of Hussein, it was the CIA! Where does trust lie?
EOZT

To the Zetas
Was it staged that the pages of Israeli's astronaut's diary were found in a Texas town of "Palestine" ????



reference:

[link to news.yahoo.com]

"It's almost a miracle that it survived — it's incredible," Zalmona said. There is "no rational explanation" for how it was recovered when most of the shuttle was not, he said.
ERUSALEM - Pages from an Israeli astronaut's diary that survived the explosion of the space shuttle Columbia and a 37-mile fall to earth are going on display this weekend for the first time in Jerusalem.
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The diary belonged to Ilan Ramon, Israel's first astronaut and one of seven crew members killed when Columbia disintegrated upon re-entering the atmosphere on Feb. 1, 2003. Part of the restored diary will be displayed at the Israel Museum beginning Sunday.

A little over two months after the shuttle explosion, NASA searchers found 37 pages from Ramon's diary, wet and crumpled, in a field just outside the U.S. town of Palestine, Texas. The diary survived extreme heat in the explosion, extreme atmospheric cold, and then "was attacked by microorganisms and insects" in the field where it fell, said museum curator Yigal Zalmona.

News re Steve Fossett ...

[link to onthescene.blogs.foxnews.com]
In the mountains off trail above Mammoth Lakes California near the area of Minaret Lake and Minaret Mine. Apparently the man came across what appeared to be some papers lying in a remote path. Tattered and crumpled on the ground, the Mammoth Lakes local found what appears to be two FAA cards that listed the name Steve Fossett, both were apparently either issued or had some sort of connection to the State of Illinois. The two cards were found with a small amount of money and not far away, a sweat jacket, also a bit worn and beaten up from the weather. This new stuff about an FAA card and sweatshirt being found sounds like a plant.

[link to news.yahoo.com]
The items were found in the area of the town of Mammoth Lakes. Fossett disappeared Sept. 3, 2007, after taking off in a single-engine plane borrowed from a Nevada ranch owned by hotel magnate Barron Hilton. A judge declared Fossett legally dead in February. This year's biggest search for Fossett focused on Nevada's Wassuk Range, more than 50 miles north of Mammoth Lakes. That search ended last month

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]
A spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration in Los Angeles, said he had received a photograph of a pilot's license that was reportedly found by the hiker. “The certificate number and date of issue on the document in the photo matches the information we have for Mr. Fossett in our database”. Other information, including Fossett's date of birth and his address, also matched.

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
The missing adventurer's craft appeared to have crashed head-on into the mountainside. Crews conducting an aerial search spotted what turned out to be the wreckage in the Inyo National Forest near the town of Mammoth Lake.

[link to ap.google.com]
The mangled debris of Fossett's single-engine Bellanca was spotted from the air late Wednesday near the town of Mammoth Lakes and was identified by its tail number. The rugged area, situated about 65 miles from the ranch, had been flown over 19 times by the California Civil Air Patrol during the initial search.

Thread: Could Ed Dames have been any Wronger about Fossett?
Steve's massive search was the most intensive search anyone ever had due to new technology put to good use. Mainly because Branson paid for a bunch of fresh satellite pics to be viewed via Google Earth, so millions of folks sitting at home could help in the search by analyzing recent aerial photography while sitting at their home computers.

A 7 year old Australian boy broke into a zoo and bashed a couple of animals over the head and fed them to a crocodile. As well as some live animals. This got me thinking of the Zetas, since I believe they said that only service to others souls have been reincarnating, since around 7 or 8 years ago. Are service to self soul still reincarnating at the moment on earth?

And another pre-written re crowd control unit...

CROWD CONTROL UNIT

We are hearing from various sources that a special military unit is being reassigned from Iraq to the U.S. This special unit is trained to deal with martial law and civil unrest. Here is a clip of Amy Goodman re this unit:
[link to www.youtube.com]
This is ominous. Please check with the Zetas. Will this unit be used? I know that the Zetas have said that they will not permit martial law to occur. However, they have many times said that we have free will, so things can change.

SOZT
We have long predicted that the US military would be brought home to when the Earth changes or other turmoil related to the end times required their presence. We predicted that this recall would mostly be conducted stealthily, with little fanfare, as the government’s nervousness about panic in the public is extreme. They know that the public will eventually find out about the presence of Planet X, causing all the erratic weather and an increase in earthquakes. They anticipate that the public will be enraged over the cover-up, and likely to panic and riot in any case. But this crowd control unit is being returned at this time not because of an anticipated awareness or announcement about the presence of Planet X and the pending passage of Planet X, but because of the fear of bank failures and subsequent rioting.
EOZT

Hi nancy
Can the Zetas comment on why John Mack( Harvard UFO researcher) was killed? Is it likely under an Obama administration to have more direct acknowledgement of the UFO issue?

Obama seems somewhat ill at ease with the bailout. Has an agent of the PuppetMaster "talked to him" regarding the necessity of this and other matters yet?

The Zetas seem to side with the Puppetmaster in several of their comments and their actions, per past Zetatalk. Is this partnership due to his wealth, control of assets (physical & human), and MJ12 membership? Is his support needed for the transformation to happen in a less painful manner? ( stopping election fraud, providing supplies post shift, etc...) Even though he has people either identified and currently in charge or waiting in the wings to assume regional power in a post pole shift world this is not likely to play out as he suspects in all regions.

Thank you

Nancy - Do the zetas foresee attempts by those currently in power trying to hoodwink the incoming Obama administration into disbelieving anything they might hear about a pending pole shift or Planet X? If so, how do the zetas think Obama and his team will react? The last we heard, the zetas said Obama still doesn’t know, though he’s “heard rumors” and Al Gore was talking to him in coded language.

Which is the other half of my question; Al Gore’s attempt to do something by giving voice to the “Global Warming” version of the Coverup puts the blame on mankind, an approach advanced by Biden in the debate. Do the zetas foresee Obama following in that mold?

Was this bail-out slipped in before Obama takes office? Could this happen again in 6 - 12 months? Thank you.
Bailout: Will it work? [link to money.cnn.com]
Experts differ on whether the $700 billion bailout plan will prompt banks to lend and help the economy. But even if it does, it will take time.

If at the time of the shift there would be a 350 mile per hour wind, all windmills would come down. Should they be buried and put up after the shift. Wouldn't power and light attract the wrong kind of people. Wouldn't it be better to have a campfire only at night and no windmill?

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Sunspots Are Fewest Since 1954, but Significance Is Unclear

Hello Nancy and the Zs!

Any comment on this one?

Peace!!!

It is not expected to be large, as New England and New Zealand.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Where one would expect that the Hawaiian Islands would be awash with tidal waves and under the threat of nearby volcanic eruptions, there is a bright spot for these islanders in that the Pacific will be shortening, tightening, and all shores that represent plates above subducting plates will benefit from this. During the rotation stoppage, the waters of the Pacific will flow towards the poles, and during the shift will rush from one side of the Pacific to the next. However, due to the shortening of the Pacific, there will be slightly more water to deal with overall. The highest altitudes will be the safest, with a tie-down to survive the hurricane force winds. Due to proximity to the oceans bounty afterwards, the volcanic gloom can be offset.

Tidal bore is present when the water has no where to go but up. This happens when a large wave approaches a cliff, along a land mass that prevent the water from any escape. For instance, along the western coast of Peru. Water then must either push sideways, encountering water under just as much pressure, or back, likewise not possible given the press. Thus, the least resistance is up a ravine. In the case of islands like those in Hawaii, there is wiggle room. Even though the islands are large, the wave approaching the island starts to move around the island long before it starts rolling up the land mass toward the beaches. The water on either side of the island has a lot of options, can move sideways, and does so. Thus, the advise to move inland x miles and upland x feet is not that far afield. Clearly, one should move as high as possible, staying out of the hurricane force winds, and not hang about near the beaches even if on high ground.

ZetaTalk ™

We have them NOW. Remember the rice crisis this past spring?

Elizabeth Fritz is an Austrian woman who was locked up in an underground dungeon for 24 years, by her nut father who raped her repeatedly and fathered 5 kids of hers. How did she survive down there for so long with no sun and very little oxygen? Would the dungeon have had to be deeper in order for her to have suffer the effects that the elite would suffer if they stay in their bunkers?

Hi Nancy.
Question: Does Sarah Palin know she is deliberately lieing or does she really believe the things she is told to say?

Why do the Zetas believe we are seeing such an increase in police brutality?
[link to rawstory.com]

[link to rawstory.com]

[link to rawstory.com]

Is already a happenin now...

Peace

Who is the bail out r e a l l y suppose to help? I trust Pelosi she looked so happy about the passing of it but is there things she does not know?

Not that I feel better than people, but would it be weird to say that I don't think I'm a 'person' at all? Therefore making me feel like I look down upon the human race at times?

I had a dream when I was 10.

All that happened in it was me sitting at a desk, and hearing a voice whisper "you are the watcher of everything that is, everything that was, and everything to come"


please help me figure it out!!

Am I living a lie in thinking I'm for whatever reason, above humanity?

One more question about Palin. Given the many examples of her 'knowledge' how in the world did she get to be mayor and governor? has she really done some good somewhere?

Can we expect to see more ET craft - either STO or STS - in the skies immediately post-shift? Or do we have to wait until the STS humans leave the scene?

For the after shift times there is a source now of all the things you wished you knew how to do. Here is the link:

[link to www.librum.us]


The book you particularly would want is almost at the bottom of the list, scroll down to Scientific American and order the CD or DVD that has the following book in it:

Cyclopedia of Formulas [any year from 1907-1909] contains the recipes for everything from foods, paints, inks, oils, metals, how to harden steel, etc etc etc., glues, papers, you name it, if it was available in a store in 1908 this book tells you how to make it. This book is very hard to find in bookstores, but here it is available for $15 or $25 dollars.

This should be listed on all survival sites. Besides this book there are many that people starting over would find valuable. Make your own choices, but the Scientific American Cyclopedia of Formulas is the last word. It tells you in plain english what you need to make something and what to do with it, and often where to get it from common sources. This includes medicines, salves, ointments, treatments, etc.

To buy the CD or DVD that contains the scanned book, they refer you to their ebay site. Simple

Hi Nancy, isn't it strange that with all the reported sightings of UFO we have first no better PICS at disposal and second, is it possible that nobody saw an UFO landing and having contact with the Passengers? Thanks a lot for your care.

To the Zetas
Was it staged that the pages of Israeli's astronaut's diary were found in a Texas town of "Palestine" ????

[link to news.yahoo.com]
"It's almost a miracle that it survived — it's incredible," Zalmona said. There is "no rational explanation" for how it was recovered when most of the shuttle was not, he said.
ERUSALEM - Pages from an Israeli astronaut's diary that survived the explosion of the space shuttle Columbia and a 37-mile fall to earth are going on display this weekend for the first time in Jerusalem.
The diary belonged to Ilan Ramon, Israel's first astronaut and one of seven crew members killed when Columbia disintegrated upon re-entering the atmosphere on Feb. 1, 2003. Part of the restored diary will be displayed at the Israel Museum beginning Sunday.
A little over two months after the shuttle explosion, NASA searchers found 37 pages from Ramon's diary, wet and crumpled, in a field just outside the U.S. town of Palestine, Texas. The diary survived extreme heat in the explosion, extreme atmospheric cold, and then "was attacked by microorganisms and insects" in the field where it fell, said museum curator Yigal Zalmona.

SOZT
This is not, as expected, an astronauts diary. This was planted, and is an attempt to bring the tragic Columbia explosion back into memory, reviving the emotions surrounding the episode. Israel has seen their relationship with the US shrink lately, with their press for permission and support in a bombing run against Iran denied by the US. Olmert is in the process of being forced out of office on corruption charges. Israel sees the US presidency being handed to Obama, and understands the US presence in Iraq will diminish. They are at a loss as to what to do, and are trying for a soap opera.
EOZT

Hi Nancy and Zeta's.

A couple of q's for the Z's. Sara Palin appeared to be well composed for the recent VP debate. Some on the internet believe she was wearing an earpiece as video evidence seems to indicate some straight line running from arm of her glases into her right ear. Was she wearing an earpiece or how was she answering relatively coherently (not like previous interviews). [link to www.abovetopsecret.com]


The Hubble has had a recent malfunction...
[link to www.sciam.com]
Is NASA being straight?

The first link is an LA Times article written in April of this year, discussing the rising cost of food worldwide. "White beans at $1,160," the white-haired Belgian, 52, cries in despair over the price of a metric ton. 'Complete madness! I bought them two years ago in Ethiopia for $235.'" The next link, written last month, is more confirmation of growing global starvation as predicted by the Zetas.

[link to www.latimes.com]

[link to rawstory.com]