"I fear we will not get another Roosevelt but a Lindbergh. Government will get complete control of economy. We will have a dictator." -- Leeb, Leeb Capital, on TV Oct. 5, 2008
Anonymous Coward User ID: 518233 10/5/2008 9:15 PM
Re: ***MAJOR economic meeting going down in DC right now, not on news, ends 10/7***
Another creepy co-inkidink, with 911, 911 was the first Tuesday in Septemper. October 7th is the first Tuesday in October.
If another attack is staged, I suspect it will follow some kind of chronological order.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 514538 10/5/2008 9:33 PM
Re: ***MAJOR economic meeting going down in DC right now, not on news, ends 10/7***
we kept trying to tell everyone they animated the planes on 9/11.
NOW you want to know what the DREAM WORKS guy is doing around the table?
geez. thanks for your support when it could have made a difference.
all their secrets are being laid bare. see folks, they are proud. bragging is hard to do in private only.
The bailout was another wicked blood sacrifice. money of the people = blood of the people. we have been butchered.
after the economy takes the slide into the abyss...
the next big event is sickeningly going to be a ceremonial sacrifice of real lives via a "terror attack" I am putting my money on an element of it being homegrown radical terrorist... with some al-queda in there for continuity...
they might just be planning the appearance of Pope john paul's long awaited and much touted VISION...hmmmm, or maybe they plan to show us some aliens...dunno folks, ask the Dream Works guy and his team.
FOX NEWS special tonight was a psyops linking obama to home grown terrorists.
anyway...it was freakish to see everyone out buying nonsensical things doing meaningless activities all weekend while Rome is burning...
FIRE IN THE BUILDING FOLKS...
do you know where the exits are located?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 517219 10/5/2008 11:17 PM
Re: ***MAJOR economic meeting going down in DC right now, not on news, ends 10/7***
AC 518016 ... "They' are NOT working on IT; they are working on US !
HOW to squeeze the last drop of financial blood from the FEW with any assets, that are NOT in the market, INCLUDING confiscation of gold, IMHO !
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 515721
From "Reinhardt"
Sure, Gold could double or triple (although I doubt it)..
gamblers are going to gamble..
but gold will be called in..
and you will not get a phone call from the King..
before gold is called in.
sell
sell
sell
is that clear?
Whatever you are “speculating” in now (regardless of how your money is being speculated; ie: 401K)..
sell
sell
sell
the market will probably fluctuate WILDLY (>1K +/-) for the next week or two..
but right now the market makers are not figuring out a way..
for you to win..
or a way.. for themselves to lose.
Public Works...
From "Reinhardt"
100% Guaranteed Prediction:
When these “public works” programmes are..
nearly completed there will be..
world war (or to be more technically correct every nation with economic problems will wage war with their favorite enemies).
There has never been a period in history when “public works” programs ended in “peace”.
Never.
From "intrigued by Reinhardt"
Public Works - Emergency Banking Act: The act allowed a plan that would close down insolvent banks and reorganize and reopen those banks strong enough to survive.The bill also gave the Secretary of the Treasury the authority to confiscate the gold of private citizens, in exchange for an equivalent amount of paper currency which was subject to later devaluation with relation to gold.
Despite the importance of the bill, it was passed in immense haste by Congress. Few, if any, Congressmen had the chance to read the bill; most were only able to hear the clerk read it. Quite a few Congressmen vocally protested the haste in which the bill was considered, but nevertheless it was passed sight unseen.
Within 300 days of the act's passage, 5,000 banks had passed inspection and were reopened. Roughly two-thirds of U.S. banks quickly reopened under this act, and faith in banking institutions was somewhat restored.
This act was a temporary solution to a major problem. The 1933 Banking Act passed later that year presented elements of a more permanent solution, including formation of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC).
Anyone have any clue what this guy was doing there? He sticks out like a sore thumb.
"The company created proprietary artificial intelligence and behavioral animation software".
What's up with this?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + John Tarnoff
DreamWorks Animation
John Tarnoff is Head of Show Development at DreamWorks Animation. John has been in the motion picture business for 25 years as a producer and studio executive, supervising films such as Diner, Pink Floyd: The Wall, Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure, and The Power of One during the 80s and early 90s. He branched into multimedia, writing and producing CD-ROM games in the early 90s, including War Games, based on the MGM movie, and Big Brother, based on George Orwell’s classic novel, 1984. Prior to joining DreamWorks, from 1996 until 2002, John was the co-founder and C.E.O. of Talkie, Inc an internet technology company that pioneered online conversational animated characters for marketing, brand building, lead generation, customer service and training. To develop its products, the company created proprietary artificial intelligence and behavioral animation software.
Quoting: Only Me
Someone has to bring the pot...these folks must be high if they think they are gonna fix anything!
Citizen17 nli User ID: 461375 10/6/2008 2:26 AM
Re: ***MAJOR economic meeting going down in DC right now, not on news, ends 10/7***
Ex-military intelligence officer says 596 Trillon derivatives market getting ready to explode. This guy says the 700 billion bailout is a 10 cent solution to a $1000 problem. Bank holiday coming this week. Worldwide economic shutdown within 24 hours afterwords. All credit cards frozen, all ATM machines shutdown, etc.
Look, most Americans are down right too poor to own gold. So what happens to them? These include Americans who are unemployed and had their homes foreclosed.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 518674 10/6/2008 8:50 AM
Re: ***MAJOR economic meeting going down in DC right now, not on news, ends 10/7***
Its all planned!!! MacKinders World: Financial Collapse and World War III
By Francis P. Sempa
Halford Mackinder’s ideas, which began to appear in print almost a century ago, have assumed classic status in the world of political geography. Policy makers and scholars remember them now mainly for the seemingly simple formula that control of Eastern Europe would bring command of the “Heartland,” thus control of the “World-Island” (Eurasia), and ultimately the world. His ideas in their entirety, including his own later reconsiderations, form a complex, powerful body of work. The author, who is deputy attorney general for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, revisits Mackinder’s professional career. ~ Ed.
The study of international relations is impossible without a firm grasp of geography. The geographic factor in world history is the most fundamental because it is the most constant. Populations increase and decrease, natural resources are discovered and expended, political systems frequently change, empires and states rise and fall, technologies decline and advance, but the location of continents, islands, seas and oceans has not changed significantly throughout recorded history. That is why great nations neglect the study of geography at their peril.
No one understood better the important relationship between geography and world history than the great British geographer, Halford John Mackinder. Born in Gainsborough, England, in 1861, Mackinder attended Gainsborough Grammar School and Epsom College before entering Oxford in 1880. As a boy, according to W. H. Parker, Mackinder had “a strong curiosity about natural phenomena, … a love of the history of travel and exploration, an interest in international affairs, and a passion for making maps.”1
At Oxford, Mackinder fell under the influence of Michael Sadler and Henry Nottidge Mosely, key figures in the effort to establish geography as an independent field of study in England. Mackinder was appointed a lecturer in natural science and economic history in 1886 and that same year joined the Royal Geographical Society. According to Brian W. Blouet, one of Mackinder’s biographers, the membership of the Royal Geographical Society “consisted of men with a general interest in the world and its affairs, officers from the army and navy, businessmen, academics, schoolteachers, diplomats, and colonial administrators.”2 The next year (1887), Mackinder wrote his first major paper, “On the Scope and Methods of Geography,” which has been called “a classic document in the history of the development of British geography.”3 In that paper, Mackinder argued that “rational” political geography was “built upon and subsequent to physical geography.” “Everywhere,” he wrote, “political questions will depend on the results of the physical inquiry.” Political geography’s function was “to trace the interaction between man and his environment.” That environment, Mackinder explained, included the “configuration of the earth’s surface,” climate and weather conditions, and the presence or absence of natural resources.4
Four of the ideas mentioned in “On the Scope and Methods of Geography” are key to understanding Mackinder’s subsequent geopolitical writings.
First, Mackinder expressed his view that the goal of a geographer was to “look at the past [so] that he may interpret the present.”
Second, he noted that man’s great geographical discoveries were nearing an end; there were very few “blanks remaining on our maps.”
Third, Mackinder described the two kinds of political conquerors as “land-wolves and sea-wolves.”
And, fourth, he recognized that technological improvements made possible “the great size of modern states.”5
Upon the foundation of those four ideas Mackinder later constructed his famous global theory.
In June 1887, Mackinder was appointed Reader in Geography at Oxford, and he began to lecture on the influence of geography on European history. He visited the United States in 1892, lecturing at the University of Pennsylvania, Swarthmore, Drexel, Harvard, Princeton and Johns Hopkins. The same year, he was appointed Principal of Reading College at Oxford, a position he held for eleven years. In 1893-1894, Mackinder gave a series of ten lectures on the relations of geography to history in Europe and Asia. Five years later, he helped found the School of Geography at Oxford, and participated in an expedition that climbed Mount Kenya, Africa’s second-highest peak.6
In 1902, Mackinder wrote his first major book, Britain and the British Seas. Although primarily concerned, in Mackinder’s words, “to present a picture of the physical features and conditions” of Britain, the book’s chapters on “The Position of Britain,” “Strategic Geography,” and “Imperial Britain” contain insights on global affairs that foreshadowed Mackinder’s subsequent geopolitical works. In the book, he described Britain as being “of Europe, yet not in Europe,” and as lying “off the shores of the great continent.” British predominance in the world rested on its “command of the sea,” wrote Mackinder, because “[t]he unity of the ocean is the simple physical fact underlying the dominant value of sea-power in the modern globe-wide world.” “A new balance of power is being evolved,” Mackinder opined, and it included “five great world states, Britain, France, Germany, Russia, and America.” Mackinder suggested, however, that Britain’s position as the preeminent world power was endangered due to “permanent facts of physical geography” in the form of “the presence of vast Powers, broad-based on the resources of half continents” (i.e., Russia and the United States).7
The threat to British preeminence and to the liberty of the world was the subject of Mackinder’s bold, provocative essay, “The Geographical Pivot of History,” which he delivered to the Royal Geographical Society on January 25, 1904. He began this seminal work by noting that the last stage of “geographical exploration” (which he called the “Columbian epoch”) was nearing its end. “In 400 years,” he wrote, “the outline of the map of the world has been completed with approximate accuracy.” Moreover, since conquerors, missionaries, miners, farmers and engineers “followed so closely in the travelers’ footsteps,” the world was for the first time a “closed political system.” This meant, wrote Mackinder, that “every explosion of social forces, instead of being dissipated in a surrounding circuit of unknown space and barbaric chaos, will be sharply re-echoed from the far side of the globe, and weak elements in the political and economic organism of the world will be shattered in consequence.” Nations, in other words, could no longer safely ignore major events that occurred in far away places of the globe.
Mackinder’s avowed purposes in writing the “pivot” paper were to establish “a correlation between the larger geographical and the larger historical generalizations,” to provide “a formula which shall express certain aspects… of geographical causation in universal history,” and to set “into perspective some of the competing forces in current international politics.”
Mackinder pictured Europe and Asia as one great continent: “Euro-Asia.” He described Euro-Asia as: “a continuous land, ice-girt in the north, water-girt elsewhere, measuring twenty-one million square miles….” The center and north of Euro-Asia, he pointed out, measure “some nine million square miles, … have no available waterways to the ocean, but, on the other hand, … are generally favorable to the mobility of horsemen…. ” To the “east and south of this heart-land,” he further explained, “are marginal regions, ranged in a vast crescent, accessible to shipmen.”
Mackinder noted that between the fifth and sixteenth centuries, a “succession of … nomadic peoples” (Huns, Avars, Bulgarians, Magyars, Khazars, Patzinaks, Cumans, Mongols and Kalmuks) emerged from Central Asia to conquer or threaten the states and peoples located in the “marginal crescent” (Europe, the Middle East, southwest Asia, China, southeast Asia, Korea and Japan). Beginning in the late fifteenth century, however, the “great mariners of the Columbian generation” used seapower to envelop Central Asia. “The broad political effect” of the rise of sea powers, explained Mackinder, “was to reverse the relations of Europe and Asia….” “[W]hereas in the Middle Ages Europe was caged between an impassable desert to south, an unknown ocean to west, and icy or forested wastes to north and north-east, and in the east and south-east was constantly threatened by the superior mobility of the horsemen,” Mackinder further explained, “she now emerged upon the world, multiplying more than thirty-fold the sea surface and coastal lands to which she had access, and wrapping her influence around the Euro-Asiatic land-power which had hitherto threatened her very existence.”
Often unappreciated, however, Mackinder believed, was the fact that while Europe expanded overseas, the Russian state based in Eastern Europe and Central Asia expanded to the south and east, organizing a vast space of great human and natural resources. That vast space would soon be “covered with a network of railways,” thereby greatly enhancing the mobility and strategic reach of land power.
With that geo-historical background, Mackinder identified the northern-central core of Euro-Asia as the “pivot region” or “pivot state” of world politics. He placed Germany, Austria, Turkey, India and China, lands immediately adjacent to the pivot region, in an “inner crescent,” and the insular nations of Britain, South Africa, Australia, the United States, Canada and Japan in an “outer crescent.” He then warned that, “[t]he oversetting of the balance of power in favour of the pivot state, resulting in its expansion over the marginal lands of Euro-Asia, would permit the use of vast continental resources for fleet-building, and the empire of the world would then be in sight.” Mackinder suggested that either a Russo-German alliance or a Sino-Japanese empire (which conquered Russian territory) could contend for world hegemony. In either case, “oceanic frontage” would be added to “the resources of the great continent,” thereby creating the geopolitical conditions necessary for producing a great power that was supreme both on land and at sea.
“I have spoken as a geographer,” Mackinder acknowledged toward the end of the paper. But he carefully avoided geographical determinism in assessing the world situation: “The actual balance of political power at any given time is… the product, on the one hand, of geographical conditions, both economic and strategic, and, on the other hand, of the relative number, virility, equipment and organization of the competing peoples.”8
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