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| Matrix
User ID: 506998
10/5/2008 5:23 PM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
When the soviets were there it was quite clear that Afghanistan was their Vietnam, yet 20 years later another super power and their allies are there learning the same old lesions.
With the arms imports and drug exports,
The war lords and drug dealers have never had it better, so why would they want their new suppliers/customers to leave? |
| Kingman-Art
User ID: 516046
10/5/2008 5:24 PM
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Watching The US, Russia and China pay to use the The Khyber Pass,?
Priceless!
Quoted from a toll-keepers son. Quoting: Kanigo2
I wonder if there is a Khyber Pass Index...
say the top 30 Camel Train Drivers...
Ohh!!!! and the concessions
don;t forget the concession Stands.
Ahhhh ... A Khyber Slurpee shaved ice with
coffee, vodka and tea. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489543
10/5/2008 5:26 PM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
I bet if we sent Jack Bauer over there it could be done! |
| Fucked chicken soup
User ID: 515819
10/5/2008 5:30 PM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
Any idiot can know that ....
Fuck religion religion Fucks you 70 times seven ...
USA CIA agents sure gained a BAD Karma creating TALIBAN fundamentalism to fight Russians in Afganistan ...
This VIRUS they planted created a mind of its own and scaped from the lab ....
Now is Epidemic & uncontrolable .... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 517981
10/5/2008 6:03 PM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
Reaping the consequences of the PC delusion that the jihadists represent a tiny minority of extremists whose points of view are decisively rejected by most Muslims. |
| Earth420
User ID: 518185
10/5/2008 6:25 PM
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Ironic huh...
We sold them all those weapons to get at Russia, the same ones that are possibly killing our men/women there...
We suck, us USA at times... And yet were on the basics, the grounding of a foundation so GRAND and pure, now lOOK! At what weve and the world have become...
Money Power... Death...
Constraints and catagories...
This is not OUR democracy, or we the people... or the American Revolution...
Peace |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 518168
10/5/2008 6:56 PM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
as Kipling said a century ago:
Now it is not good for the Christian's health to hustle the Aryan brown,
For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear: "A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 517212
10/5/2008 7:46 PM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
Why would they want to win it?
If they win the war then they have to come home, they don't want to win, they want to occupy. Quoting: DJ_DOOMER
Erm british troops are fighting Americas war there, so i think you should rephrase that please. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 501511
10/5/2008 7:49 PM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
This war not only cannot be won, it was never designed to be won. Case in point? You quite simply cannot fight a mindset such as Afghanistan or Iraq people have ingrained into their very being. One must understand their value system in order to begin to understand their reasoning. They have no value to human life (or very little), including their own. Why? Life is basically shit for most of them, and the belief that is ingrained in their very minds. If they give their life, or take another life with them, (for the right reason, infidels I presume) then they will "graduate", for lack of a better word, to a "better" life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 492999
Ridiculous. I haven't seen one lucid post yet! No one has even come close to the right explanation here. The "insurgents" call for immediate withdrawal of foreign troops from Afghanistan to end the war, so if we leave, the war is over. Is it that deceptively simple? There was no war before we went there, we invaded their country, and the citizens took up arms and have been trying to hoist us out of there for 8 years now. I don't see why it's so hard for everyone to understand this, they just sit over there being Muslim leaving us alone, they don't even have the capabilities to keep the war going if we leave. I think that bears repeating: THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO CONTINUE THE WAR IF WE BRING THE TROOPS HOME! That alone should put the final nail in the coffin. Then people claim terrorists are going to come here and attack us, but it's just fearmongering bullshit, as the only terrorist attacks that have happened in the U.S. since I've been alive are two on the WTC, one on OKC (not a Muslim), and the Atlanta Olympics (not a Muslim). These things are going to happen, and invading countries and ruining innocent lives will just make it happen more, as people tend to resent their lives being ruined... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 518353
10/5/2008 9:02 PM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
Why would they want to win it?
If they win the war then they have to come home, they don't want to win, they want to occupy.
Damn skippy! well said.
Occuping Afgan territory will create even more terrorists. This is the BUSH/MCCAIN plan. Never ending war, no wonder our congressmen are heavily invested in the War Machine. Quoting: bitchfromhell 473633
I swear most people on this board are too smart by half it was not the CFR/NWO agenda to lose in Afghanistan.
Their puppet Karzi wants to deal with the Taliban, but they don't obviously because they are winning.
History shows that invaders don't win in Afghanistan. Their arrogance will be their downfall. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 203704
10/5/2008 9:05 PM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
wars between people of different religions
can never be won.
A few hundred years ago yes
you could kill all of them men women
children adherents of a particular
belief system..
Nowadays it is difficult to slaughter folks
in secret without
the details becoming known.
Hmm I guess you could disguise
what you are doing by calling it
winning hearts and minds
( of the dead and dying). |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 518168
10/5/2008 9:23 PM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
To win, you would have to exterminate tens of millions of Pathans in Afghanistan and pakistan. For a Pathan, Taliban is their culture.
Westerners have been trying exterminate Afghans for almost 2400 years. Alexander the Great slaughtered tens of thousands. The Greeks were only able to hold Afghanistan for a short while. It didn't work then and it doesn't work now. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 518168
10/5/2008 9:30 PM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
You can do what the Brits did after every conflict in Afghanistan. They would proclaim another great victory for their Queen and get the hell out of there! It kept everyone happy till the next conflct broke out. |
| BALLS CRACKER
User ID: 518461
10/6/2008 12:16 AM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
NO SHIT! I could u have told u that even before the arse-hole went into afganistan.
Its all bull-crap and we know it, fucking jerks fucking every1 up except themself, but their days r numbered 2. What goes round comes round.
REMEMBER! KEEP UR FRIEND CLOSE KEEP UR ENEMY CLOSER.
*****PEACE 2 U ALL EXCEPT THE WAR-MONGERS***** |
| illegalsmile
User ID: 446109
10/6/2008 12:19 AM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
To win, you would have to exterminate tens of millions of Pathans in Afghanistan and pakistan. For a Pathan, Taliban is their culture.
Westerners have been trying exterminate Afghans for almost 2400 years. Alexander the Great slaughtered tens of thousands. The Greeks were only able to hold Afghanistan for a short while. It didn't work then and it doesn't work now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518168
Yep. Our troops are dying to regain the Zionist Drug Lords thier Opium. 92% of the world's opium comes from Afghanistan.
The reason we are dying in Afghanistan is because the Taliban threw out the Zionist Drug Lords, and we are there to kill the Taliban, and get the Zionists back in control. Since the Taliban ouster in late 2001 the opium cultivation hit 370,650 acres, a record.
In reality the Taliban is dead, the last acts will be horrendous bombings on US Forces, American will pull out, and the Zionist Drug Lords will control the country.
When the Taliban ruled Afghanistan they almost totally cut off the poppy supply to the French Jews. Taliban leader Mullah Omar bans poppy cultivation in Afghanistan . Production fell 94%.
International diamond smugglers such as Lewis, Beith, Lewisohn, etc saw their fortunes drop.
Zio-Nazi bankers such as Rothschild, Montague, Cassell, Lazards, etc came to the rescue with a neat little war. Afghanistan supplies more than 90% of the heroin that reaches Britain.
Afghan nomads now have a steady stream of donkeys over Afghanistan’s mountainous border into Iran and their Zio-Nazi paymaster.
Journalists and posters here avoid mentioning that Afghanistan was about getting Zio-Nazi controlled drug routes back after the Taliban threw them out. Most maintains the $ 200 bill a yr opium trade is run by some camel jockeys hiding in a cave.
After 9/11 Bush invades Afghanistan and the drug trade returns to its former owners. They also spin the fairy tale that the Medellin Cartel and Colombian Narco terrorists control the South American drug trade.
The world drug trade is a $ 600 billion a yr. international business and has always been controlled by the same people. |
| R...
User ID: 490829
10/6/2008 2:46 AM | | 89446
User ID: 464964
10/6/2008 3:51 AM
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Of course it can't be won as long as Pakistan gives protection to the taliban....
When the taliban suffer casualties more recruits cross the border from Pakistan. If some need better fighting skills, they are sent to train in Pakistan. If they are cornered and are close to the border, they cross it into Pakistan.
Now that they know that Pakistan has extended military protection over them (shooting US drones or at US helicopters) the cockroaches are even happier. |
| 89446
User ID: 464964
10/6/2008 3:53 AM
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Westerners have been trying exterminate Afghans for almost 2400 years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518168
You either don't know what "exterminate" means, either you're unaware of how many extermination methods the Westerns have at their disposal. If the West really wanted to exterminate the Afghans it wouldn't take long. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 516768
10/6/2008 4:57 AM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
we need to stop and think "wait a minute, what the hell are we fighting these people for anyway?"
Everyone knows that the 9/11 attacks on the WTC and pentagon were not directed by Osama Binlarden at his own little NORAD base in the mountains of afganistan.
So we have to stop, get real and ask ourselfs again " just what in the fuck are we doing here!!!?"
YOU STUPID FUCKERS THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN USED TO HELP CHILDREN IN NEED, OR RESEARCH ALTERNATIVE ENREGY SOURCES!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380853
10/6/2008 5:15 AM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
Any idiot can know that ....
Fuck religion religion Fucks you 70 times seven ...
USA CIA agents sure gained a BAD Karma creating TALIBAN fundamentalism to fight Russians in Afganistan ...
This VIRUS they planted created a mind of its own and scaped from the lab ....
Now is Epidemic & uncontrolable .... Quoting: Fucked chicken soup 515819
You reap what is sow is certainly true here. It is coming around to get the US now.
In the late 1980s, Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto, concerned about the growing strength of the Islamist movement, told President George H. W. Bush, "You are creating a Frankenstein."[15]
Operation Cyclone
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Operation Cyclone was the code name for the United States Central Intelligence Agency program to arm the Afghan mujahideen during the Soviet war in Afghanistan, 1979 to 1989.[1] Operation Cyclone is one of the longest and most expensive covert CIA operations ever undertaken;[2] funding began with $20-30 million per year in 1980 and rose to $630 million per year in 1987.[3]
Brzezinski recalled: "We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would... That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Soviets into the Afghan trap... The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter, "We now have the opportunity of giving to the Soviet Union its Vietnam War."[4][5]
During that time of Soviet occupation, regional military leaders in Afghanistan helped the U.S. smuggle books into the country. They demanded that the primers contain anti-Soviet passages. Children were taught to count with illustrations showing tanks, missiles and land mines, agency officials said. They acknowledged that at the time it also suited U.S. interests to stoke hatred of foreign invaders.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 518674
10/6/2008 8:50 AM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
Its all planned!!! MacKinders World: Financial Collapse and World War III
By Francis P. Sempa
Halford Mackinder’s ideas, which began to appear in print almost a century ago, have assumed classic status in the world of political geography. Policy makers and scholars remember them now mainly for the seemingly simple formula that control of Eastern Europe would bring command of the “Heartland,” thus control of the “World-Island” (Eurasia), and ultimately the world. His ideas in their entirety, including his own later reconsiderations, form a complex, powerful body of work. The author, who is deputy attorney general for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, revisits Mackinder’s professional career. ~ Ed.
The study of international relations is impossible without a firm grasp of geography. The geographic factor in world history is the most fundamental because it is the most constant. Populations increase and decrease, natural resources are discovered and expended, political systems frequently change, empires and states rise and fall, technologies decline and advance, but the location of continents, islands, seas and oceans has not changed significantly throughout recorded history. That is why great nations neglect the study of geography at their peril.
No one understood better the important relationship between geography and world history than the great British geographer, Halford John Mackinder. Born in Gainsborough, England, in 1861, Mackinder attended Gainsborough Grammar School and Epsom College before entering Oxford in 1880. As a boy, according to W. H. Parker, Mackinder had “a strong curiosity about natural phenomena, … a love of the history of travel and exploration, an interest in international affairs, and a passion for making maps.”1
At Oxford, Mackinder fell under the influence of Michael Sadler and Henry Nottidge Mosely, key figures in the effort to establish geography as an independent field of study in England. Mackinder was appointed a lecturer in natural science and economic history in 1886 and that same year joined the Royal Geographical Society. According to Brian W. Blouet, one of Mackinder’s biographers, the membership of the Royal Geographical Society “consisted of men with a general interest in the world and its affairs, officers from the army and navy, businessmen, academics, schoolteachers, diplomats, and colonial administrators.”2 The next year (1887), Mackinder wrote his first major paper, “On the Scope and Methods of Geography,” which has been called “a classic document in the history of the development of British geography.”3 In that paper, Mackinder argued that “rational” political geography was “built upon and subsequent to physical geography.” “Everywhere,” he wrote, “political questions will depend on the results of the physical inquiry.” Political geography’s function was “to trace the interaction between man and his environment.” That environment, Mackinder explained, included the “configuration of the earth’s surface,” climate and weather conditions, and the presence or absence of natural resources.4
Four of the ideas mentioned in “On the Scope and Methods of Geography” are key to understanding Mackinder’s subsequent geopolitical writings.
First, Mackinder expressed his view that the goal of a geographer was to “look at the past [so] that he may interpret the present.”
Second, he noted that man’s great geographical discoveries were nearing an end; there were very few “blanks remaining on our maps.”
Third, Mackinder described the two kinds of political conquerors as “land-wolves and sea-wolves.”
And, fourth, he recognized that technological improvements made possible “the great size of modern states.”5
Upon the foundation of those four ideas Mackinder later constructed his famous global theory.
In June 1887, Mackinder was appointed Reader in Geography at Oxford, and he began to lecture on the influence of geography on European history. He visited the United States in 1892, lecturing at the University of Pennsylvania, Swarthmore, Drexel, Harvard, Princeton and Johns Hopkins. The same year, he was appointed Principal of Reading College at Oxford, a position he held for eleven years. In 1893-1894, Mackinder gave a series of ten lectures on the relations of geography to history in Europe and Asia. Five years later, he helped found the School of Geography at Oxford, and participated in an expedition that climbed Mount Kenya, Africa’s second-highest peak.6
In 1902, Mackinder wrote his first major book, Britain and the British Seas. Although primarily concerned, in Mackinder’s words, “to present a picture of the physical features and conditions” of Britain, the book’s chapters on “The Position of Britain,” “Strategic Geography,” and “Imperial Britain” contain insights on global affairs that foreshadowed Mackinder’s subsequent geopolitical works. In the book, he described Britain as being “of Europe, yet not in Europe,” and as lying “off the shores of the great continent.” British predominance in the world rested on its “command of the sea,” wrote Mackinder, because “[t]he unity of the ocean is the simple physical fact underlying the dominant value of sea-power in the modern globe-wide world.” “A new balance of power is being evolved,” Mackinder opined, and it included “five great world states, Britain, France, Germany, Russia, and America.” Mackinder suggested, however, that Britain’s position as the preeminent world power was endangered due to “permanent facts of physical geography” in the form of “the presence of vast Powers, broad-based on the resources of half continents” (i.e., Russia and the United States).7
The threat to British preeminence and to the liberty of the world was the subject of Mackinder’s bold, provocative essay, “The Geographical Pivot of History,” which he delivered to the Royal Geographical Society on January 25, 1904. He began this seminal work by noting that the last stage of “geographical exploration” (which he called the “Columbian epoch”) was nearing its end. “In 400 years,” he wrote, “the outline of the map of the world has been completed with approximate accuracy.” Moreover, since conquerors, missionaries, miners, farmers and engineers “followed so closely in the travelers’ footsteps,” the world was for the first time a “closed political system.” This meant, wrote Mackinder, that “every explosion of social forces, instead of being dissipated in a surrounding circuit of unknown space and barbaric chaos, will be sharply re-echoed from the far side of the globe, and weak elements in the political and economic organism of the world will be shattered in consequence.” Nations, in other words, could no longer safely ignore major events that occurred in far away places of the globe.
Mackinder’s avowed purposes in writing the “pivot” paper were to establish “a correlation between the larger geographical and the larger historical generalizations,” to provide “a formula which shall express certain aspects… of geographical causation in universal history,” and to set “into perspective some of the competing forces in current international politics.”
Mackinder pictured Europe and Asia as one great continent: “Euro-Asia.” He described Euro-Asia as: “a continuous land, ice-girt in the north, water-girt elsewhere, measuring twenty-one million square miles….” The center and north of Euro-Asia, he pointed out, measure “some nine million square miles, … have no available waterways to the ocean, but, on the other hand, … are generally favorable to the mobility of horsemen…. ” To the “east and south of this heart-land,” he further explained, “are marginal regions, ranged in a vast crescent, accessible to shipmen.”
Mackinder noted that between the fifth and sixteenth centuries, a “succession of … nomadic peoples” (Huns, Avars, Bulgarians, Magyars, Khazars, Patzinaks, Cumans, Mongols and Kalmuks) emerged from Central Asia to conquer or threaten the states and peoples located in the “marginal crescent” (Europe, the Middle East, southwest Asia, China, southeast Asia, Korea and Japan). Beginning in the late fifteenth century, however, the “great mariners of the Columbian generation” used seapower to envelop Central Asia. “The broad political effect” of the rise of sea powers, explained Mackinder, “was to reverse the relations of Europe and Asia….” “[W]hereas in the Middle Ages Europe was caged between an impassable desert to south, an unknown ocean to west, and icy or forested wastes to north and north-east, and in the east and south-east was constantly threatened by the superior mobility of the horsemen,” Mackinder further explained, “she now emerged upon the world, multiplying more than thirty-fold the sea surface and coastal lands to which she had access, and wrapping her influence around the Euro-Asiatic land-power which had hitherto threatened her very existence.”
Often unappreciated, however, Mackinder believed, was the fact that while Europe expanded overseas, the Russian state based in Eastern Europe and Central Asia expanded to the south and east, organizing a vast space of great human and natural resources. That vast space would soon be “covered with a network of railways,” thereby greatly enhancing the mobility and strategic reach of land power.
With that geo-historical background, Mackinder identified the northern-central core of Euro-Asia as the “pivot region” or “pivot state” of world politics. He placed Germany, Austria, Turkey, India and China, lands immediately adjacent to the pivot region, in an “inner crescent,” and the insular nations of Britain, South Africa, Australia, the United States, Canada and Japan in an “outer crescent.” He then warned that, “[t]he oversetting of the balance of power in favour of the pivot state, resulting in its expansion over the marginal lands of Euro-Asia, would permit the use of vast continental resources for fleet-building, and the empire of the world would then be in sight.” Mackinder suggested that either a Russo-German alliance or a Sino-Japanese empire (which conquered Russian territory) could contend for world hegemony. In either case, “oceanic frontage” would be added to “the resources of the great continent,” thereby creating the geopolitical conditions necessary for producing a great power that was supreme both on land and at sea.
“I have spoken as a geographer,” Mackinder acknowledged toward the end of the paper. But he carefully avoided geographical determinism in assessing the world situation: “The actual balance of political power at any given time is… the product, on the one hand, of geographical conditions, both economic and strategic, and, on the other hand, of the relative number, virility, equipment and organization of the competing peoples.”8
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 518168
10/6/2008 8:59 AM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
Westerners have been trying exterminate Afghans for almost 2400 years.
You either don't know what "exterminate" means, either you're unaware of how many extermination methods the Westerns have at their disposal. If the West really wanted to exterminate the Afghans it wouldn't take long. Quoting: 89446
so nazi, are you advocating murdering millions of women and children to satiate youe insane ego? So Christian of you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 36709
10/6/2008 9:34 AM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
Why is this pinned? Honestly? Quoting: Strossus
Indeed, british commanders have been saying since late 2002 that the war would be unwinnable. |
| 89446
User ID: 464964
10/6/2008 9:38 AM
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Westerners have been trying exterminate Afghans for almost 2400 years.
You either don't know what "exterminate" means, either you're unaware of how many extermination methods the Westerns have at their disposal. If the West really wanted to exterminate the Afghans it wouldn't take long.
so nazi, are you advocating murdering millions of women and children to satiate youe insane ego? So Christian of you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518168
I see you failed to pass your kindergarten debate classes.
I merely pointed out that the statement "Westerners have been trying exterminate Afghans for almost 2400 years" is utter BS. Since if Westerners would have tried to exterminate the Afghans it wouldn't have taken long.
Go back to sucking your thumb. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 518168
10/6/2008 10:04 AM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
Westerners have been trying exterminate Afghans for almost 2400 years.
You either don't know what "exterminate" means, either you're unaware of how many extermination methods the Westerns have at their disposal. If the West really wanted to exterminate the Afghans it wouldn't take long.
so nazi, are you advocating murdering millions of women and children to satiate youe insane ego? So Christian of you.
I see you failed to pass your kindergarten debate classes.
I merely pointed out that the statement "Westerners have been trying exterminate Afghans for almost 2400 years" is utter BS. Since if Westerners would have tried to exterminate the Afghans it wouldn't have taken long.
Go back to sucking your thumb. Quoting: 89446
killing millions over 2400 years is not extermination? You probably believe that Native Americans should be grateful that your kind didn't exterminate every last one of them.
Anyway, so how do you propose winning the Afghan war? Yes, the Pakistani border is porous. It would take 100's thousands of troops to close it and more to destroy the Pathan culture in Afghanistan which is reflected in the Taliban.
On top of that, our economy is imploding.
So what is your plan? If you can't offer a coherent plan then STFU. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 417517
10/6/2008 10:07 AM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
It's not about winning it's all about spreading depleted uranium, plus steeling heroin and oil, whilst directing war funds into privately owned arms dealers.
They will probably get away with it for another 20 years, nobody seems to care too much, these dumb fuck squaddies haven't even worked out they are working for criminals yet. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 518642
10/6/2008 10:17 AM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
Of course it can't be won as long as Pakistan gives protection to the taliban....
When the taliban suffer casualties more recruits cross the border from Pakistan. If some need better fighting skills, they are sent to train in Pakistan. If they are cornered and are close to the border, they cross it into Pakistan.
Now that they know that Pakistan has extended military protection over them (shooting US drones or at US helicopters) the cockroaches are even happier. Quoting: 89446
NOW HERE IS A GUY THAT SHOULD BE OVER THERE SHOWING THEM HOW IT'S DONE. |
| 89446
User ID: 464964
10/6/2008 10:45 AM
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killing millions over 2400 years is not extermination?
You probably believe that Native Americans should be grateful that your kind didn't exterminate every last one of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518168
Hundreds of millions of what we now call Afghans have been born and have died naturally in those 2,400 years. The fact that several millions died in war across 2,400 years doesn't make their ethnicity exterminated. In fact, Afghanistan currently has a population of 30 million. You call that extinct? Are you 12 years old or is that only your intellect's age?
Anyway, so how do you propose winning the Afghan war? Yes, the Pakistani border is porous. It would take 100's thousands of troops to close it and more to destroy the Pathan culture in Afghanistan which is reflected in the Taliban.
So what is your plan? If you can't offer a coherent plan then STFU. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518168
STFU and allow your assinine comments about the extermination of the Afghans? No thanks.
The West came in Afghanistan and established a presence that the taliban can't dislodge. The casualty level is very low, compare it to USSR times. There is nothing more to be won. The taliban rats will survive in their caves. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 518168
10/6/2008 10:57 AM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
hey ignormaus, the West is going to send more troops! It isn't succeeding! So how long are you going to stay? The Brits interfered in Afghansistan for a 100 years 1842-1947. It didn't change a thing.
So you actually have no plan. You want America to pay for and endless war while our economy implodes. That is a strategy of a moron. You can't keep troops in another country forever. Sooner or later they leave and the natives proclaim victory. That is what history shows. |
| Leef
User ID: 376995
10/6/2008 11:15 AM | | Re: Breaking- British commander says war in Afghanistan cannot be won | Quote |
If the country you live in were invaded (and not because YOU or even your government started any conflict), how long would you keep up resistance? How long would you fight the occupiers? To what ends would YOU go to keep the invaders from ripping off your natural resources?
There is no end to the "war" in Afghanistan, because it never was a "war." It was a political power play to assert dominion over a part of the world so that pipelines could be built. |
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