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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502659
10/6/2008 7:54 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
to combat terrorism
I.e. anyone who is against the government.
What a bunch of BS, and I live in Germany. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 513863
Once they made the link, Freedom fighters against an occupying force = insurrection = insurgent = terrorists, the door was open for this. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 513908
10/6/2008 7:56 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
This looks like it is a public announcement that Martial law will be imposed anytime they want it. Might grow. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 482600
10/6/2008 7:58 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
They are going to resurrect the the Zombie Waffen SS soldiers from the Wewelsburg Castle? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495109
10/6/2008 7:59 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
Asteroid to hit Earth! don't worry, no problems are expected from a great photo opp
NASA's Near Earth Object (NEO) Program has detected an incoming asteroid and issued an alert for its crash in Africa. It's the first time, program managers say, that such an event has been predicted ahead of time.
Not to worry though: Armageddon it's not. The asteroid will most likely create a fireball and some sky firewors.
Here's the word from the NEO folks:
A very small, few-meter sized asteroid, designated 2008 TC3, was found Monday morning by the Catalina Sky Survey from their observatory near Tucson Arizona. Preliminary orbital computations by the Minor Planet Center suggested an atmospheric entry of this object within a day of discovery.
JPL confirmed that an atmospheric impact will very likely occur during early morning twilight over northern Sudan, north-eastern Africa, at 2:46 UT Tuesday morning. The fireball, which could be brilliant, will travel west to east (from azimuth = 281 degrees) at a relative atmospheric impact velocity of 12.8 km/s and arrive at a very low angle (19 degrees) to the local horizon. It is very unlikely that any sizable fragments will survive passage through the Earth's atmosphere.
The graphic from NEO shows the asteroid's path as it heads in towards Earth.
If you live in the region and get any great photographs, contact me. I'd love to feature your work.
Oh, and about that Armageddon thing: just in case, feel free to send Billy Bob Thornton to my house
[link to www.examiner.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502659
10/6/2008 7:59 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
The minorities need to be eliminated in Germany. That is a reality as far as the German people are concerned. The rapid increase in crime is directly related to the influx of minorities into the country. They will be either terminated or allowed to flee the country without any bank deposits. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518448
If you take a look at world wide immigration (both legal and illegal) you will discover another trend. The occasion is that nearly all major nations are facing serious immigration problems that are being tauted as the reason its so hard for the "national" to find a job will be used against a scapegoat population of immigrants... it does just have to be against the "jews", it can be any group that is fairly easily recognized by the public. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502659
10/6/2008 8:00 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
The minorities need to be eliminated in Germany. That is a reality as far as the German people are concerned. The rapid increase in crime is directly related to the influx of minorities into the country. They will be either terminated or allowed to flee the country without any bank deposits.
If you take a look at world wide immigration (both legal and illegal) you will discover another trend. The occasion is that nearly all major nations are facing serious immigration problems that are being tauted as the reason its so hard for the "national" to find a job will be used against a scapegoat population of immigrants... it does just have to be against the "jews", it can be any group that is fairly easily recognized by the public. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502659
it does NOT just have to be against the "jews", it can be any group that is fairly easily recognized by the public. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 510897
10/6/2008 8:01 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
The minorities need to be eliminated in Germany. That is a reality as far as the German people are concerned. The rapid increase in crime is directly related to the influx of minorities into the country. They will be either terminated or allowed to flee the country without any bank deposits. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518448
Then why have they spent the past twenty five years defying the will of the German people in order to stick these aliens inside Germany? |
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The Guy 
Are you sure you want to know?
User ID: 349666
10/6/2008 8:01 PM
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The minorities need to be eliminated in Germany. That is a reality as far as the German people are concerned. The rapid increase in crime is directly related to the influx of minorities into the country. They will be either terminated or allowed to flee the country without any bank deposits. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518448
That's been tried before.
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502659
10/6/2008 8:05 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
The minorities need to be eliminated in Germany. That is a reality as far as the German people are concerned. The rapid increase in crime is directly related to the influx of minorities into the country. They will be either terminated or allowed to flee the country without any bank deposits.
Then why have they spent the past twenty five years defying the will of the German people in order to stick these aliens inside Germany? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 510897
For the same reason that the US Congress has not acted effectively on the USA's immigration issues and defying the people of the USA. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 510300
10/6/2008 8:10 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
to combat terrorism
I.e. anyone who is against the government.
What a bunch of BS, and I live in Germany. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 513863
That clarifies it. I was confused since troops can already can be deployed in emergenicies and natural disasters and G8 summits. What else are they talking about?
yeah, okay, that makes sense... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 510300
10/6/2008 8:15 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
The minorities need to be eliminated in Germany. That is a reality as far as the German people are concerned. The rapid increase in crime is directly related to the influx of minorities into the country. They will be either terminated or allowed to flee the country without any bank deposits.
Then why have they spent the past twenty five years defying the will of the German people in order to stick these aliens inside Germany? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 510897
low birth rate and booming growth...
take even one of those away and you got alot of excess baggae on the sreets with nothing to do. In Germany and elsewhere they have alot of sub-classed worker bee immigrants with no possibility of citizenship -- many were born there, many dont want to go back. They may not be allthat willing to leave, and may demand their perceived rights... |
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InfoFront
User ID: 516207
10/6/2008 8:16 PM
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That's been tried before.
...and we would've got away with it too - if not for you pesky kids and that dog!
Prepare for the 4th Reich! This time they can blame the Reichstag fire on the Muslims. |
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IN GOD I TRUST
User ID: 507408
10/6/2008 8:41 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
This is just a coincidence.
Nothing to worry about. Quoting: Earth Muffin 272605
NOT A COINCIDENCE, THE EUROPEANS WORLD LEADER MET DURING THE WEEKEND AND I AM SURE IT WASN´T TO DISCUSS THE ENCOMY THEY KNOW THEY ARE FUCKED, THEY WERE DISCUSSING CIVIL UNREST PERIOD. WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.
GOD BLESS, NOTHING IS COINCIDENCIAL EVERYTHING HAS ITS LOGICAL EXPLANATION |
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markusmaximus
Rawr.
User ID: 519207
10/6/2008 8:51 PM
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Didn't see this when I started a thread about it.
The USA is also deploying active-duty troops within its borders.
story: [link to www.cnn.com]
The nations are starting to prepare to deal with a HIGHLY unruly citizenry.
It is going to get BAD.
What? You think you're the only person that gets sick when he doesn't get his jellybeans? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 508895
10/6/2008 9:02 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 518136
10/6/2008 9:19 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
Didn't see this when I started a thread about it.
The USA is also deploying active-duty troops within its borders.
story: [ link to www.cnn.com]
The nations are starting to prepare to deal with a HIGHLY unruly citizenry.
It is going to get BAD.
Anyone find this statement, from the above link, a little scary?
"We need a lot more in our toolbox in order to deal with angry people on the street," said Col. Barry Johnson of U.S. Army North. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 519205
10/6/2008 9:42 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
This is just a coincidence.
Nothing to worry about. Quoting: Earth Muffin 272605
There is no such thing as coincidence. |
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Que
User ID: 510209
10/6/2008 10:22 PM
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And here we GO!
If its happening in the leading country (money wise) in the European Union guess who is right behind them.....
(The USA{us}) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385288
10/6/2008 10:35 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
Nothing to worry about.
The United States and Germany have nothing in common. They hate Jews and the US is run by them. |
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Que
User ID: 510209
10/6/2008 10:48 PM
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Nothing to worry about.
The United States and Germany have nothing in common. They hate Jews and the US is run by them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385288
No-- we have Jewish people in our govt. but our country is not totally run by those who are Jewish. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 518136
10/6/2008 11:01 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
Nothing to worry about.
The United States and Germany have nothing in common. They hate Jews and the US is run by them.
No-- we have Jewish people in our govt. but our country is not totally run by those who are Jewish. Quoting: Que
LOL!!
I think he meant the Media/Hollywood....not the govt. |
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Matrix
User ID: 506998
10/6/2008 11:15 PM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
With the sackings starting to mount in the private sector, the governments of nations will be looking to start recruiting on mass offering 3 square meals compared to those without work only getting what they can find, all in preparation for the coming class war.  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 513863
10/7/2008 12:04 AM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
Nothing to worry about.
The United States and Germany have nothing in common. They hate Jews and the US is run by them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385288
I'd be happy if all of you guys could drop the biased images that were programmed into your mind.
I am German and I can honestly tell you that there is REALLY nothing left from our past in 99,9% of the people (sure there are still Nazis, but they exist in every country anyway).
I would objectively say we are one of the nicest people in the world today, and guess what, probably exactly because of our past as well. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 510300
10/7/2008 12:20 AM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
Didn't see this when I started a thread about it.
The USA is also deploying active-duty troops within its borders.
story: [ link to www.cnn.com]
The nations are starting to prepare to deal with a HIGHLY unruly citizenry.
It is going to get BAD.
Anyone find this statement, from the above link, a little scary?
"We need a lot more in our toolbox in order to deal with angry people on the street," said Col. Barry Johnson of U.S. Army North.
Yes I find that incredibly scary. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 519398
10/7/2008 12:22 AM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
Nothing to worry about.
The United States and Germany have nothing in common. They hate Jews and the US is run by them.
No-- we have Jewish people in our govt. but our country is not totally run by those who are Jewish.
LOL!!
I think he meant the Media/Hollywood....not the govt. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518136
YOU GOT IT WRONG, THE GOVERNMENT IS INFLUENCED BY THE JEWISH. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 510300
10/7/2008 12:25 AM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
Nothing to worry about.
The United States and Germany have nothing in common. They hate Jews and the US is run by them.
I'd be happy if all of you guys could drop the biased images that were programmed into your mind.
I am German and I can honestly tell you that there is REALLY nothing left from our past in 99,9% of the people (sure there are still Nazis, but they exist in every country anyway).
I would objectively say we are one of the nicest people in the world today, and guess what, probably exactly because of our past as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 513863
Still, you have archaic immigration laws thanks to Hitler. Imagine all those Turks being born German and not being German. And alot of so called "real" Germans perceive those people as expendable. That's looking for trouble... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 510300
10/7/2008 12:31 AM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
Nothing to worry about.
The United States and Germany have nothing in common. They hate Jews and the US is run by them.
No-- we have Jewish people in our govt. but our country is not totally run by those who are Jewish.
LOL!!
I think he meant the Media/Hollywood....not the govt.
YOU GOT IT WRONG, THE GOVERNMENT IS INFLUENCED BY THE JEWISH. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519398
You fucking shill. There is lots of people "influencing" govt. Your finger pointing is typical Nazi, McCarthy, Hoover, etc etc baiting looking for a patsy that the PTB always offer. Take the bait. It will temporarily make you FEEL better.
That's all... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 516260
10/7/2008 12:34 AM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
Nothing to worry about.
The United States and Germany have nothing in common. They hate Jews and the US is run by them.
I'd be happy if all of you guys could drop the biased images that were programmed into your mind.
I am German and I can honestly tell you that there is REALLY nothing left from our past in 99,9% of the people (sure there are still Nazis, but they exist in every country anyway).
I would objectively say we are one of the nicest people in the world today, and guess what, probably exactly because of our past as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 513863
If you are correct, that is unfortunate.
Many people have always counted on Germany to protect
the last bastion of hope in the world...the Aryan race. |
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Ezra
User ID: 519451
10/7/2008 1:33 AM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
Wonder how much of Prescott Bush's money is financing the revival? |
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RHSC
User ID: 493346
10/7/2008 1:51 AM | | Re: ***BREAKING: Germany to allow domestic military deployment*** | Quote |
I WROTE:
We've got it here with the newly instigated deployment of a brigade out of Ft. Bragg (1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry Division).
They arent out of Bragg. 82nd airborne and Special Forces are based at Bragg. Not 3rd ID. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518829
You are correct, they aren't out of Bragg. My bad.
What could have been YOUR shining moment is now gone, though. You informed me about what they were not, but you didn't inform me (and the others) that they were out of GA.
They are based out of Fort Stewart, GA, and they are 3rd Infantry Division.
So I was wrong about their home base, but in correcting me you failed to inform us as to which it was.
[link to www.armytimes.com]
Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1
3rd Infantry’s 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission.
Helping ‘people at home’ may become a permanent part of the active Army
By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Sep 30, 2008 16:16:12 EDT
The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.
Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.
Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.
It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to those areas.
But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.
After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.
“Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future,” said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations. “Now, the plan is to assign a force every year.”
The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., but the soldiers with 1st BCT, who returned in April after 15 months in Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga., where they’ll be able to go to school, spend time with their families and train for their new homeland mission as well as the counterinsurgency mission in the war zones.
Stop-loss will not be in effect, so soldiers will be able to leave the Army or move to new assignments during the mission, and the operational tempo will be variable.
Don’t look for any extra time off, though. The at-home mission does not take the place of scheduled combat-zone deployments and will take place during the so-called dwell time a unit gets to reset and regenerate after a deployment.
The 1st of the 3rd is still scheduled to deploy to either Iraq or Afghanistan in early 2010, which means the soldiers will have been home a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out.
In the meantime, they’ll learn new skills, use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it.
They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.
Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the “jaws of life” to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.
The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.
The package is for use only in war-zone operations, not for any domestic purpose.
“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.”
The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.
“I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered,” said Cloutier, describing the experience as “your worst muscle cramp ever — times 10 throughout your whole body.
“I’m not a small guy, I weigh 230 pounds ... it put me on my knees in seconds.”
The brigade will not change its name, but the force will be known for the next year as a CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF (pronounced “sea-smurf”).
“I can’t think of a more noble mission than this,” said Cloutier, who took command in July. “We’ve been all over the world during this time of conflict, but now our mission is to take care of citizens at home ... and depending on where an event occurred, you’re going home to take care of your home town, your loved ones.”
While soldiers’ combat training is applicable, he said, some nuances don’t apply.
“If we go in, we’re going in to help American citizens on American soil, to save lives, provide critical life support, help clear debris, restore normalcy and support whatever local agencies need us to do, so it’s kind of a different role,” said Cloutier, who, as the division operations officer on the last rotation, learned of the homeland mission a few months ago while they were still in Iraq.
Some brigade elements will be on call around the clock, during which time they’ll do their regular marksmanship, gunnery and other deployment training. That’s because the unit will continue to train and reset for the next deployment, even as it serves in its CCMRF mission.
Should personnel be needed at an earthquake in California, for example, all or part of the brigade could be scrambled there, depending on the extent of the need and the specialties involved.
Other branches included
The active Army’s new dwell-time mission is part of a NorthCom and DOD response package.
Active-duty soldiers will be part of a force that includes elements from other military branches and dedicated National Guard Weapons of Mass Destruction-Civil Support Teams.
A final mission rehearsal exercise is scheduled for mid-September at Fort Stewart and will be run by Joint Task Force Civil Support, a unit based out of Fort Monroe, Va., that will coordinate and evaluate the interservice event.
In addition to 1st BCT, other Army units will take part in the two-week training exercise, including elements of the 1st Medical Brigade out of Fort Hood, Texas, and the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade from Fort Bragg, N.C.
There also will be Air Force engineer and medical units, the Marine Corps Chemical, Biological Initial Reaction Force, a Navy weather team and members of the Defense Logistics Agency and the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.
One of the things Vogler said they’ll be looking at is communications capabilities between the services.
“It is a concern, and we’re trying to check that and one of the ways we do that is by having these sorts of exercises. Leading up to this, we are going to rehearse and set up some of the communications systems to make sure we have interoperability,” he said.
“I don’t know what America’s overall plan is — I just know that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they’re called,” Cloutier said. “It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home.”
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Correction:
A non-lethal crowd control package fielded to 1st Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, described in the original version of this story, is intended for use on deployments to the war zone, not in the U.S., as previously stated. |
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