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| 89446 User ID: 464964 10/6/2008 4:57 PM
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Is there an asteroid warning yet in Sudan? Evacuations? Can't find any news. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 498131
Sudan is not even aware of this. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 385736 10/6/2008 4:57 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | [link to space.newscientist.com]
This article should end the doom panic/fiesta, if that hasn't already ended. The thing is. I doubt that scientists are so smart that they can predict the exact target of the meteor and its impact angle with such short notice, and the estimate was made based on brighness of the asteroid. could it be that the asteroid is made of blackish material of unknown composition? If so the size estimate is called into question, or it could be very irregularly shaped perhaps like lava. |
| 3rd Day Rising  Son of Isaac User ID: 480668 10/6/2008 4:58 PM
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Any pics?
We will never have great leaders as long as we mistake education for intelligence, ambition for ability, and lack of transgression for integrity |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 515720 10/6/2008 5:00 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote |
[ link to space.newscientist.com]
This article should end the doom panic/fiesta, if that hasn't already ended. The thing is. I doubt that scientists are so smart that they can predict the exact target of the meteor and its impact angle with such short notice, and the estimate was made based on brighness of the asteroid. could it be that the asteroid is made of blackish material of unknown composition? If so the size estimate is called into question, or it could be very irregularly shaped perhaps like lava. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385736
Maybe the asteroid carries the next plague! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 501898 10/6/2008 5:00 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | Oh all the astronomers all over the world, both professional and amateur, you're telling me that just discovered this a few days ago?! I call massive  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 518595 10/6/2008 5:00 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | Rock From Space To Burn Up Over Africa
This is an AstroAlert from Sky & Telescope.
October 6, 2008
A very tiny asteroid, not much more than 10 feet across, will enter Earth’s atmosphere over Sudan in Africa tonight, October 6-7, 2008, near 2:46 Greenwich Mean Time. Most likely it will burn up before hitting the ground, but it could produce a spectacular fireball, or bolide, in the night sky equivalent to the explosion of about a kiloton of TNT.
These are the assessments of astronomers Andrea Milani of NEODyS in Italy and Steve Chesley (Jet Propulsion Laboratory). They are concerned that eyewitnesses might misinterpret the event as some type of hostile military action. Says Milani, “The earlier the public worldwide is aware that this is a natural phenomenon, which involves no risk, the better.”
The first observatory to capture images of 2008 TC3 (as it’s now designated) were Richard Kowalski and colleagues of Mount Lemmon Observatory in Arizona, about 12 hours ago. Confirming measurements were quickly secured by amateur astronomer James McGaha at Sabino Canyon Observatory near Tucson, and then by Gordon Garrad and others at Australia’s Siding Spring Observatory and also Christopher Jacques and E. Pimentel using the Global Rent-a-Scope site in Moorook, near Melbourne.
First to point out that the incoming object was heading right for a collision with Earth’s atmosphere was Bill Gray of Project Pluto, in a post earlier today to the Minor Planet Mailing List. Canadian amateur Andrew Lowe has independently calculated the object’s point of entry to be over Sudan.
The object’s entry might be visible as far north as southern Europe and the Middle East. Its location in the sky, however, is completely dependent on an observer’s geographic location. As further details become known, be sure to look at the online version of this AstroAlert at SkyandTelescope.com/AstroAlert for possible updates.
[link to blogs.fayobserver.com] |
| Skipper User ID: 448826 10/6/2008 5:02 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | thanks for the info,but i am not afraid....
we have higher powers protecting us from anything major.
i love God,our star family and you:)
namaste [link to www.myspace.com]
[link to lightworkers.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 518992 10/6/2008 5:03 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | Everyone, put on your NIKES!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 518997 10/6/2008 5:03 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | spaceweather updated their info:
INCOMING ASTEROID: A small, newly-discovered asteroid named 2008 TC3 is approaching Earth and chances are good that it will hit. Steve Chesley of JPL estimates that atmospheric entry will occur on Oct 7th at 0246 UTC over northern Sudan [ref]. Measuring only a few meters across, the space rock poses NO THREAT to people or structures on the ground, but it should create a spectacular fireball, releasing about a kiloton of energy as it disintegrates and explodes in the atmosphere. Odds are between 99.8 and 100 percent that the object will encounter Earth, according to calculations provided by Andrea Milani of the University of Pisa. |
| Nothing Useful To Add  I can't wait for the new world User ID: 489251 10/6/2008 5:03 PM
 | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | I never heard about this googlebot thing until this thread. Has anyone typed in "godlikeproductions is"?
Weird. “I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.”
-BH |
| Tessa  User ID: 383010 10/6/2008 5:05 PM
 | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | you know...
it was a meteor threat that brough me to GLP in the first place
aww...nostalgia
 "My eyes divide the sky
As sirens sound in heaven
My will brings down the moon
And shatters it to pieces" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 518914 10/6/2008 5:05 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote |
spaceweather updated their info:
INCOMING ASTEROID: A small, newly-discovered asteroid named 2008 TC3 is approaching Earth and chances are good that it will hit. Steve Chesley of JPL estimates that atmospheric entry will occur on Oct 7th at 0246 UTC over northern Sudan [ref]. Measuring only a few meters across, the space rock poses NO THREAT to people or structures on the ground, but it should create a spectacular fireball, releasing about a kiloton of energy as it disintegrates and explodes in the atmosphere. Odds are between 99.8 and 100 percent that the object will encounter Earth, according to calculations provided by Andrea Milani of the University of Pisa. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518997
Basically 100% chance and only hours away!
Someone tell someone in SUDAN to get a video of it and put it on youtube... lol -
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 508587 10/6/2008 5:06 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | Yeah, never heard of googlebot before. I typed "when the asteroid hits" and got:
when the asteroid hits the keyhole it will be easy mr deguerin american |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 129376 10/6/2008 5:07 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote |
Oh all the astronomers all over the world, both professional and amateur, you're telling me that just discovered this a few days ago?! I call massive  Quoting: Anonymous Coward 501898
An asteroid "Measuring only a few meters across", is extremely difficult to detect.
Get a clue before you show such ignorance. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 426925 10/6/2008 5:07 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote |
Rock From Space To Burn Up Over Africa
This is an AstroAlert from Sky & Telescope.
October 6, 2008
A very tiny asteroid, not much more than 10 feet across, will enter Earth’s atmosphere over Sudan in Africa tonight, October 6-7, 2008, near 2:46 Greenwich Mean Time. Most likely it will burn up before hitting the ground, but it could produce a spectacular fireball, or bolide, in the night sky equivalent to the explosion of about a kiloton of TNT.
These are the assessments of astronomers Andrea Milani of NEODyS in Italy and Steve Chesley (Jet Propulsion Laboratory). They are concerned that eyewitnesses might misinterpret the event as some type of hostile military action. Says Milani, “The earlier the public worldwide is aware that this is a natural phenomenon, which involves no risk, the better.”
The first observatory to capture images of 2008 TC3 (as it’s now designated) were Richard Kowalski and colleagues of Mount Lemmon Observatory in Arizona, about 12 hours ago. Confirming measurements were quickly secured by amateur astronomer James McGaha at Sabino Canyon Observatory near Tucson, and then by Gordon Garrad and others at Australia’s Siding Spring Observatory and also Christopher Jacques and E. Pimentel using the Global Rent-a-Scope site in Moorook, near Melbourne.
First to point out that the incoming object was heading right for a collision with Earth’s atmosphere was Bill Gray of Project Pluto, in a post earlier today to the Minor Planet Mailing List. Canadian amateur Andrew Lowe has independently calculated the object’s point of entry to be over Sudan.
The object’s entry might be visible as far north as southern Europe and the Middle East. Its location in the sky, however, is completely dependent on an observer’s geographic location. As further details become known, be sure to look at the online version of this AstroAlert at SkyandTelescope.com/AstroAlert for possible updates.
[ link to blogs.fayobserver.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518595
GOOD GRIEF!! Iran will see this thing coming in their direction and think WE HAVE STARTED WW3!! They will attack Israel, and then it will be over. Damascus will be hit, and destroyed. The sleeper cells in USA and across the world will be activated. We are in deep trouble!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 518174 10/6/2008 5:07 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote |
I never heard about this googlebot thing until this thread. Has anyone typed in "godlikeproductions is"?
Weird. Quoting: Nothing Useful To Add
yes i just did.. hilarious!! |
| NastraDooMis User ID: 515218 10/6/2008 5:08 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote |
That it's a man made attempt to push the asteroid thread forward.
I seriously doubt that at this very moment TPTB have the kind of influence to "make a small asteroid" threaten our lives.
How could this even be possible? Quoting: I Wish 352088
Tptb could blow up wall street(to initiate the bank holiday) and blame it on a piece of the asteroid that hit the building.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 519069 10/6/2008 5:09 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | here is something to ponder , usaly when you have a small meteor or asteroid , there are bigger ones that follow , so now we have to look or see if his big brothers will follow suite. :hide: |
| 89446 User ID: 464964 10/6/2008 5:09 PM
 | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | Saudi Arabia was hit by iron asteroids before:
The Wabar Meteorite Impact Site
[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 518784 10/6/2008 5:11 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote |
HOLY SHIT!!!
Did George Soros Discover this asteroid in 1981?
3652 Soros | 1981 TC3 | George Soros (György Soros), Hungarian-born American businessman and philosopher.
[ link to en.wikipedia.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 500644
THE CONNECTION BETWEEN ASTEROIDS AND KEY FIGURES:
If you want the truth (and secrets) about incumbent US president George Bush and Senator Hillary Clinton as his possible successor small details may count. They do so considerably in those areas of astrology where people most want to have light shed. Some of the facts are nonetheless provocative and not all astrologers would discuss them if they knew them.
With the presidential race underway astrologers are trying to predict outcomes by conventional (planetary symbolism) means but that’s not always what’s most helpfully revelatory. In cases of doubt or to expand information use the asteroids! To start with a simple fact Hillary Clinton's birth chart shows a telling Hillary asteroid at 6 Virgo nearly conjuncting her career/ destiny Midheaven angle (4 Virgo). This links her name to her career and is good for fame. In fact, near to Hillary is precisely Fama (Latin for fame) while Glo, which some astrologers consider stronger for fame issues, makes degree exact fortunate aspect to her career Midheaven.
Opposite Hillary’s name asteroid and conjunct her so called Nadir angle,( the home base in any chart) is of all things asteroid, Whitehouse! I accept with the Bible that the skies “utter knowledge” (Ps 19:2) and this seems as near as the heavens could get to telling us where Hillary’s truest home would one day be. Granted George Bush’s natus by comparison doesn’t show Whitehouse on the same angle. Instead it’s minutes off the degree of a world point perhaps reflecting someone who can rule the world from the Whitehouse while preferring to be absent from it and perhaps not thinking of it much as home. However, both Hillary and Bush have Whitehouse in retrograde which for astrology can signify a return factor. Bush was returned to the Whitehouse for a second term, might Hillary now return home more gloriously ?
Inside Hillary’s career house we find not only Hillary and Fama (Fame) but asteroid, Washingtonia (i.e. Washington because asteroids were originally registered in feminine form) and this Washington is making close aspects, one hard, one easy, to Hillary C’s Mercury and Saturn respectively. Since Hillary has already been First Lady this combination, though suggestive, cannot by itself guarantee winning the Whitehouse race for which her chances must be analyzed by other means as I do in conclusion.
George Bush, who always had the advantage Hillary doesn’t enjoy of a natal sun conjuncting America’s sun, shows Washingtonia more like a cave of the secrets hidden in his twelfth sector. It’s nonetheless savingly in degree exact aspect to a powerful Pluto factor in his first house of persona. Washington and America are likely to be seen by him less as the career or destiny they are for Hillary than a natural possession. This impression is supplemented by GB having asteroid, America, in his second house of income and possessions. (America as the great cash cow?). With a chart more suited to the individualism of an artist than the mind of a negotiating statesman, exceptionally Bush shows not a single planet in his chart’s western sphere which would relate him to the will of others and the public. A lot of his motivation regarding especially military moves may always be secret given that his curiously hidden Washington, which in his case could mean chiefly Pentagon (no asteroid), favourably aspects his Mars (army and war). By contrast Hillary’s less possessive patriotism, her identification as “the” representative American is reflected by having her America asteroid in her first house of persona.
READY TO STEP INTO A PRESIDENT’S SHOES?
The president and/or party whom Hillary would be challenging to reach the top was clear from the first. At the Senator’s birth asteroid Hillary was degree exact opposite asteroid Busch and under the rules for reading asteroids what sounds is what counts, so Busch equals Bush in her chart and his. Hillary would always be Bush’s gadfly. She rather encroachingly appears in the President’s career house from where she makes difficulty square to his ascendant angle, the self same aspect her own Fama/Fame asteroid makes to his ascendant. By contrast the President’s own name asteroid is rather curiously not prominent for a person in his position but somewhat obscured in his fourth house of home and the father where it is afflicted by a first house Venus that rules his home sector. I believe I am correct to say this reflects the extent to which George Bush Jnr is a product of his father’s presidency and how he is increasingly unpopular and his name may not be well remembered. Like Hillary he does however – but only just – have Fama (Fame) inside his career house.
Anyway, if you look at America’s chart for its day of foundation (at any hour of the day because the foundation time is disputed) one finds something curious that’s likely to be significant. Saturn (generally a symbol of power, authority and ambition) falls at 14 Libra. From here it’s fortunately aspected by Busch from 13 Gemini. This is a degree acknowledged to be a power point of some sort for America (some believe foundation time corresponded to 13 Gemini rising though I don’t accept that). What’s interesting is that Hillary is conjuncting Busch at 12 Gemini. This looks like one of the signs for assuming power in America and stepping into Bush’s shoes and perhaps in some areas continuing Bush’s policies – there have already been charges this is what Hillary may actually do and by the time Bush steps down he may leave situations where his successor can do little else. In this connection and again to consider degree patterns, noteworthy is that 21 of kingly Leo, - 21 is deemed a special, “critical” degree, hence strong - is filled by Venus for Bush and Saturn for Hillary which looks like the easy shoes of one becoming the hard shoes of another!
I will return to Hillary’s chances presently but this matter of the Bush legacy is important so in parenthesis I will look at some curious details of the Bush chart. I only chanced to examine it in the wake of looking at the chart of Israel in relation to Annapolis and with results which alone prompted me to write the present article. I had received such a surprise I was left wondering if I wasn’t just looking at the always possible fluke. If it wasn’t a fluke then the facts were bizarre to disturbing. Just who is the elusive ever smiling George Bush and what doing?
GEORGE BUSH AND THE GOD/DEVIL/RELIGION CONFLICT.
As described in my article, Accidental Revelations: Israel, Annapolis and Beyond It (November archive) I found that in Israel’s horoscope Busch was in the house of the nation’s open enemies conjunct Malin (French for Devil). At first I felt this must be a fluke (they must sometimes happen with asteroids). It would have been helpful to see where Rice fell but there’s no Rice asteroid. Or perhaps there is if you accept that the names Rice, Rhys and Rees are the same name, (which in origin they are). In that case Rees manages to conjunct Busch and Malin implying I might not be looking at coincidence after all.
Looking at Bush’s natal chart I then discovered that Rees is suitably prominent there in the first house of persona in close aspect to the President’s sun. This surely has to be Rice in Bush’s life, the influential, possibly rather dominant and domineering “right hand man” or rather woman, the person who as Secretary of State most represents the President’s international policies before the world. We can maybe locate Condaleeza Rice in the heavens after all!
But if so I wouldn’t then be able completely to dismiss the negative picture I was looking at vis-à-vis Israel because, like it or not, there were people from Jewish rabbis to Christian prophets insisting there was something seriously religiously questionable in what Bush and Rice were engaged in towards Israel (Israel is God’s land before even Israel’s and it is biblically forbidden to bargain over it and divide it). I also knew that asteroids Malin (Devil) and Lucifer, the devil as darkness and light respectively, well and truly work as such.
These asteroids are relevant to the charts of Satanists and they are deeply meaningful for the birth data of Jesus. The latter is something I claim to know empirically from innumerable proofs despite being controversially ignored to the point of censorship itself by mainstream publishing, media and just about everyone in a position to help as regards getting this historically important issue out to the world. One proof is that years before I could even know asteroids for remote dates I had singled out a certain time as being that of Jesus’ temptation. Sure enough, years later the appropriate, completely against chance, transit of Lucifer supported the rest of what I had always known.
So, beyond Israel’s chart I wanted to ascertain what the natal chart of Bush might reveal. More surprise. Bush’s natal Saturn at 26 Cancer, itself the planet associated by astrologers in religious/psychological contexts with the devil, was conjuncting Lucifer at 25 Cancer and Spirit at 24 Cancer! And this natal Saturn was in degree exact opportunity aspect besides to a career house asteroid, Lie. (He could engage cover ups about religion?) As regards asteroid Spirit I don’t imply this signifies Holy Spirit – in religious astrology and the life of Christ it is clearly Uranus which symbolizes this – Spirit points rather to the “spirit of” something at work. Within the pattern for Bush one would have to say divine and demonic appear in tension and Saturn by nature limits whatever it touches.
I didn’t and don’t of course believe this former Skull and Bones Club member who claims to be “born again” while unevangelically believing the God of Jesus is the same as Allah, was any Satanist. But there’s more chance than for other people that he could unwittingly serve negative spiritual agendas, play the proverbial “devil’s agent” to affairs, stretching truth where religion is concerned. This potentially dark pattern interestingly contrasts with Hillary’s less religiously fraught one which has Lie opposing her vulnerable, potentially victimized, Pisces moon which could expose her to bitter opposition through lies. She has been called everything from witch to murderess.
CAN AND WILL HILLARY CLINTON WIN?
First let’s be clear how we can have any clues about who can win. Here are some basic technicalities.
Personal: Obviously the candidate must have a natal pattern consistent with assuming power and enjoying fame. We’ve seen that Hillary has something of this including that twelfth house sun, normally a sign of hidden enemies and undermining factors but which can give specifically leaders contact with the collective unconscious of nations. Scorpio is a privileged sign for US presidents and Hillary’s planets in Leo are strong and imperial. As we have seen Fame is present as Fama in Hillary’s career house and the other fame asteroid, Glo, exactly trines her destiny Midheaven. There are no asteroids, President or First, but there is one Principia . It is not (as I incorrectly stated in the first published version of this article) perfectly conjunct the fame sensitive Glo, rather it is loosely conjunct her first house Jupiter. This does seem like the heavens declaring this person could be famous for being a female first of something though it won't be a giveaway as Jupiter and this asteroid are basically in difficulty square to the Midheaven!
Despite a basically encouraging picture Hillary appears to fail in especially two points natally. She has a sympathetic but unpolitical moon in Pisces. No American president has had, or would want to have, quite such a vulnerable factor (when Hillary protests her detractors have badly hurt her she means it) but perhaps a woman could be allowed it and it would humanize her to the masses. Hillary also has an unhelpfully unaspected sun – unless, like astrologer Michael O’Reilly, you take into account the four main asteroids Ceres, Pallas, Juno and Vesta, one of which, Ceres, has recently if controversially been declared a planet, because then Hillary’s sun aspects all of these. (O’Reilly in fact links Hillary’s lifelong concern with healthcare reform to her natal sun’s aspect to her caring/nurturing Ceres in her sixth house of health issues). Whatever, the asteroids introduce a new and largely feminine consciousness into astrology. A woman president whose natal sun aspects the leading asteroids could therefore represent the new female and feminist consciousness many voters would be wanting of her.
National: The winner must have a natal chart strongly related to their nation’s horoscope like Bush with his Cancerian sun conjunct America’s sun. Hillary’s sun favourably aspects America’s Venus, obviously positive for someone aiming to be first female president! There are doubts about the time of America’s foundation but I believe the most solid case is made by Michael O’Reilly who has given both historical and astrological evidence for a 2.21 pm chart with Scorpio rising and a Leo destiny Midheaven (and isn’t there a lot of show and theatrics in American leadership?). It’s those angles that have favoured Presidents with suns or planets in Scorpio like Hillary and also those with Mars in Leo like Hillary because then their Mars would aspect America’s leadership Midheaven. Presidents are also commanders-in-chief of the army (Mars). America’s Midheaven is at just 16 Leo, Hillary’s Mars is at 14 Leo, conjuncting a powerful Pluto minutes off a world point at 15 Leo. This helps. (It is incidentally one more proof of the 2.21pm chart that its destiny Midheaven conjuncts a World point as befits America’s role in the world. The eclipse opposite America’s Midheaven in ‘08 could introduce drama into the leadership and whole life and destiny of a debt ridden America).
Also helpful to Hillary is the fact - given the 2.21 pm horoscope which unlike the other US charts puts the moon at 25 Aquarius - that the Senator’s Uranus favourably aspects the national moon exactly to the degree. It needs to do so not only because any President should anyway connect to the national moon but because Hillary would be blazing a woman first trail and Uranus is revolution, the difference, the surprise. Hillary’s Uranus is helpfully in her eighth sector of public support, crucial for any politician. Uranus there suggests she can win especially if she engages support from alternative people and voters like gays (ruled by Uranus) stressing new ways and alternative values. Obama chases Hillary here with a Uranus opposite rather than trine the national moon so he can excite but less easily realize what America wants. His Neptune conjunct America’s ascendant incidentally suggests his rule if he had it instead of Hillary could correspond to a time of confusion.
Transits: This could be a big story but I am only going to take transits for Voting Day November 4th around which time would be a very important one in Hillary’s life if she won. This day must therefore stand out dramatically in her chart and though I haven’t studied the charts of other candidates to compare, I think it is strongly enough marked for Hillary except for one point which I shall have to consider…so
ELECTION DAY (4th NOVEMBER 2008).
Action generating Mars is transiting Hillary’s Ascendant and Mercury at that time which just by itself puts her well forward and in the news. Jupiter makes opportunity aspect to her Venus, good for a woman candidate, and Venus rules the house of her dearest wish. Both Saturn and Uranus are near to favourably aspecting Hillary’s ascendant angle and Mercury, with Saturn doing this from her career house where Saturn at this crucial time is probably best placed. Pluto is nearing a power giving aspect, albeit by semi-sextile, to her natal Jupiter. This is all pretty positive unless her rivals could show stronger aspects and if we could read properly for the main rival, Obama. (He was born 4th Aug 1961 birth time unknown. If I were reading for Inauguration Day ‘09 in favour of his having won would be Jupiter conjuncting his Mercury and against would be Pluto nearly opposite his world point Venus).
The rather major negative is that dissolving, undermining Neptune will be directly opposite Hillary’s natal Saturn which relates to ambition and the duties one assumes in life. Could this Neptune, always ruler of “the end of the matter” within her chart, undo and disappoint her? It’s quite possible but I am inclined to suppose this sign has more to do with the condition of America which is not likely to be improving and which, post Bush, could even prove a bit of a poisoned chalice, an extra heavy load, for almost anyone who won. (If the strong contender Obama whose natal Neptune conjuncts the American ascendant won, it might reflect America itself would soon take the chalice as Neptune here could signify a degree of confusion for all concerned).
But assuming Hillary Clinton were to assume the difficult Bush legacy it’s interesting to note that not long after Inauguration Day (Jan 20th ‘09) a lunar eclipse hits right on her natal Saturn. If this doesn’t bespeak a period of disappointment then it announces, and more likely does so, a period of assumption of extra work and heavy duty consonant in her case with having the presidential role.
I am not an American familiar with American politics (astrological signs must be read in context)and I have not studied the possibly stronger charts of Hillary’s rivals, but within these stated limitations I am prepared to say Hillary seems 95% likely to win the race to become America’s first woman president. In fact, it almost looks like the whole thing is already in her pocket.
NOTE George Bush’s chart is always given as: July 6, 1946, New Haven CT. 7.26 AM EDT
Hillary Clinton’s birth chart, originally disputed for time, is now accepted by leading astrologers to be for Oct 26, 1947,Chicago IL. At 8 am CST. The final word of research on this (her mother had said she was born around breakfast time on the day) was given by Frances McEvoy in Astrology Newsletter, Feb/March ’98, Vol XV111 no 6.
The surely conclusive case for America’s 2.21 pm (on July 4 1776 in Philadelphia) Scorpio rising chart is given by especially Michael O’Reilly in his Political Astrology, and various articles by him on the Net. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 501257 10/6/2008 5:11 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | What is a few meters? The sigma value for that measurement is huge... A few like 6 or a few like 20, or heaven forbid a few like 200? That is not a small chunk. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 519072 10/6/2008 5:11 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | type godlikeproductions in to the bot. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 498131 10/6/2008 5:12 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote |
Is there an asteroid warning yet in Sudan? Evacuations? Can't find any news.
Sudan is not even aware of this. Quoting: 89446
Uh oh |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 473581 10/6/2008 5:13 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | it enters above sudan...I think it will be travelling fast...what if it travels low and lands in the atlantic |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 498131 10/6/2008 5:14 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote |
type godlikeproductions in to the bot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519072
Bada bah bah...
"godlikeproductions cia take over and offer their own advice from independent therapists who told her to get a job to gain experience to impress employers graduates" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 519044 10/6/2008 5:15 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | the powers that be are all
typed into webbot got :
the powers that be are all oil men backed by the czech government the people have no money to invest in websites make sure you post your solution and the bottom region of a recovery boiler by withdrawing some of the exhaust energy through three turbochargers |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 518942 10/6/2008 5:17 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | hmmmm so GLP run by a social engineering firm? Let's see ... ... test ...
Hello Merry Christmas crew you evil fuckers!
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 519054 10/6/2008 5:20 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | 2008TC3
Services:
* Ephemerides
* Observation Prediction
Orbital Information:
Keplerian elements at epoch 54800 (MJD)
element value 1-sigma variation
a (AU) 0.766802 3.725e-05
eccentricity 0.340927 6.07e-05
inclination (deg) 0.342 0.003894
Asc. node (deg) 193.782 0.002415
Arg. perih. (deg) 340.968 0.02823
M (deg) 295.355 0.04526
Other useful data:
Absolute Magnitude (H) 30.314
Slope parameter (G) 0.15
Perihelion (AU) 0.5054
Aphelion (AU) 1.0282
Asc. node-Earth sep. (AU) -0.4886
Desc. node-Earth sep. (AU) 0.0004
Earth MOID (AU) 2e-05
Orbital period (days) 245.258
Date of orbit computation Oct 6 20:38
Get the orbital details, including covariance and correlation:
- Near middle of observational arc: (MJD = 54745.5): (HTML) (ASCII)
- Near present day (MJD = 54800): (HTML) (ASCII)
Note: Note that the elements are given with reduced precision in order to be more readable. For full precision please use the machine readable ASCII files, which contain equinoctial (not keplerian) elements and are in a format suitable for OrbFit input. Also refer to the discussion in the FAQ.
Minimum Orbital Intersection Distance:
Includes Orbit diagram.
- with .gif figures
Proper elements and encounter conditions:
- Proper elements and encounter conditions with .gif figures
Observational Information:
Optical Astrometry
RMS of residuals (arcsec) 4.01664E-01
Date of first obs. (yr/mo/day) 2008/10/06.27767
Date of last obs. (yr/mo/day) 2008/10/06.72723
Number of Observations 31
Number Discarded 0
Arc Information
Arc length (days) 0
Days unobserved 0
Get the observational details: optical observations, ASCII file
Note: The ASCII file is in a format suitable for OrbFit input.
Close Approaches (from 1950 to 2100):
Information on converting to and from MJD is available.
Planet Date MJD Nominal Distance (AU) Minimum Possible Distance (AU) Stretching (AU) Width (AU) Close approach probability Linearity Applies
EARTH 1952/01/12.12005 34023.1 0.0459185 0.038758 0.04337 6.811e-07 1 No
EARTH 1961/10/24.87379 37596.9 0.0542871 0.000403 0.01411 0 1 No
EARTH 1971/09/29.64310 41223.6 0.0649687 0.00051 0.03718 0 1 No
MARS 1988/01/28.22518 47188.2 0.0243018 0.0241469 0.01603 3.626e-07 0.909 No
EARTH 1989/01/29.65979 47555.7 0.123954 0.0624262 0.02453 6.842e-07 1 No
EARTH 1998/12/27.22187 51174.2 0.0684347 0.0464258 0.008613 8.393e-07 1 No
EARTH 2008/10/07.11869 54746.1 3.91e-05 3.91e-05 1.45e-08 3.567e-09 1 No
EARTH 2010/09/16.36747 55455.4 0.0227473 0.022643 4.829e-05 4.161e-05 1 No
EARTH 2012/08/29.63909 56168.6 0.0117918 0.0111194 0.0008907 3.067e-05 1 No
EARTH 2014/08/24.51421 56893.5 0.115923 0.114239 0.0006879 3.664e-05 1 No
EARTH 2037/10/15.59744 65346.6 0.131372 0.113719 0.00553 1.437e-05 1 No
VENUS 2038/07/28.75380 65632.8 0.0437403 0.0182841 0.00718 2.372e-05 0.726 No
EARTH 2039/10/12.54309 66073.5 0.0221225 0.0101762 0.002931 6.59e-06 1 No
VENUS 2040/02/23.34272 66207.3 0.0290213 0.0251931 0.0045 3.634e-05 1 No
EARTH 2041/09/25.00698 66787 0.0211443 0.020037 0.0005939 2.385e-06 1 No
EARTH 2043/09/03.06903 67495.1 0.0034628 0.0029059 0.003459 3.37e-05 1 No
EARTH 2045/08/28.17623 68220.2 0.0228985 0.0030467 0.05215 1.811e-05 1 No
EARTH 2047/08/25.33636 68947.3 0.0711368 0.0029659 0.0629 5.044e-06 0.86 No
EARTH 2049/08/24.30651 69677.3 0.128999 0.0029742 0.05583 1.026e-05 0.743 No
EARTH 2051/08/25.85354 70408.9 0.192577 0.0029665 0.04371 1.917e-05 0.548 No
EARTH 2092/10/14.40860 85434.4 0.13437 0.0054497 0.1016 0.0001038 0.617 No
EARTH 2094/10/14.64965 86164.6 0.0706643 0.0054057 0.07288 0.0001011 0.85 No
EARTH 2096/10/10.49384 86891.5 0.0216222 0.0054029 0.0344 9.371e-05 1 No
VENUS 2098/04/02.23258 87430.2 0.0324868 0.0082186 0.007136 8.079e-05 1 No
EARTH 2098/10/05.63687 87616.6 0.0064229 0.0056589 0.01493 8.135e-05 1 No
VENUS 2099/10/27.08712 88003.1 0.0257309 0.0204628 0.1104 0.0001184 0.147 No
Ephemeris:
Ephemeris at epoch 54746 (MJD)
Right Ascension (deg) 355.899
Declination (deg) 10.6553
V Magnitude 14.88
Solar Elongation (deg) -162.44
Phase (deg) 17.55
Galactic Latitude (deg) -48.81
Distance from Earth (AU) 0.001
Distance from Sun (AU) 1
Apparent motion
Rate (deg/day) 59.732
Direction (PA deg) 69.027
Uncertainty Ellipse (1-sigma)
Semimajor axis (arcmin) 0.449
Semiminor axis (arcmin) 0
Orientation (PA deg) 63.47
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 519044 10/6/2008 5:20 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | LOL
holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[link to douweosinga.com]
i typed in:doom comes in
and i got this response :
doom comes in five days tootles |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 518712 10/6/2008 5:20 PM | | Re: An asteroid (ASTEROID 2008 TC3) is going to hit Earth TONIGHT! | Quote | I can't read fast enough - maybe this is posted already, maybe not, I can't read anymore.
Impact app. 10:46 pm tonight, east coast time.
From the NEO website
Small Asteroid Predicted to Cause Brilliant Fireball over Northern Sudan
NASA/JPL Near-Earth Object Program Office
October 6, 2008
A very small, few-meter sized asteroid, designated 2008 TC3, was found Monday morning by the Catalina Sky Survey from their observatory near Tucson Arizona.
Preliminary orbital computations by the Minor Planet Center suggested an atmospheric entry of this object within a day of discovery.
JPL confirmed that an atmospheric impact will very likely occur during early morning twilight over northern Sudan, north-eastern Africa, at 2:46 UT Tuesday morning.
The fireball, which could be brilliant, will travel west to east (from azimuth = 281 degrees) at a relative atmospheric impact velocity of 12.8 km/s and arrive at a very low angle (19 degrees) to the local horizon.
It is unlikely that any sizable fragments will survive passage through the Earth's atmosphere.
Objects of this size would be expected to enter the Earth's atmosphere every few months on average but this is the first time such an event has been predicted ahead of time.
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