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Breaking news: Britiain about to partly nationalise British banks

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Anonymous Coward
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10/7/2008 2:22 PM
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Just heard the news on Channel 4 News. The buy-in share amount will be announced before the markets open tomorrow morning.
[link to www.ft.com]
Anonymous Coward
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10/7/2008 2:26 PM
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Government poised to unveil bank rescue plan
Tue Oct 7, 2008 7:02pm BST


LONDON (Reuters) - The government is poised to announce a "comprehensive" rescue package for the banking system, the BBC reported on Tuesday, including the possibility of injecting capital into banks.

"It will be big, it is the government's attempt to stabilise the banking system," BBC economics correspondent Robert Peston reported. "The Treasury has been working on the plan for weeks."

The plan is said to include provision for a stand-by facility that would effectively ensure that no banks would be able to run out of cash, he said.

Sky Television said the plan would be unveiled on Wednesday morning.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown, the chancellor, Alistair Darling, and the governor of the Bank of England, Mervyn King, held talks on the financial crisis on Tuesday evening.

(Reporting by Luke Baker; Editing by Jodie Ginsberg)
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[link to uk.reuters.com]
rancelot
User ID: 240916
10/7/2008 2:29 PM
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Good find OP.

Dominos lining up.

Ireland, Greece and Germany have already pulled their assets out the EU. Iceland was bailed out by Russia. Everyman for himself now.



uk germany
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275333
10/7/2008 2:31 PM
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PIN....???
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487016 (OP)
10/7/2008 2:37 PM
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Chancellor of the Exchequer Alistair Darling just said he will make a statement on the bailout tomorrow morning before the markets open.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 519732
10/7/2008 2:39 PM
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I posted this earlier but no pin. Mustn't be important enough
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487016 (OP)
10/7/2008 2:42 PM
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Bank Rescue To Be Announced


Breaking News
Sky News
7:10pm UK, Tuesday October 07, 2008

The Chancellor will make a statement about a rescue plan for British banks following a meeting with the PM, the Governor of the Bank of England and the head of the FSA.


Gordon Brown called the crisis meeting at Downing Street this afternoon after a dire day in the markets for the UK's major banks.

They have been discussing what the Government should do next to resolve the banking crisis and proposals for the long-term reform of the financial system.

Earlier, the Prime Minister's spokesman has refused to comment on whether the Prime Minister is considering a plan to part-nationalise British banks
(snip)
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487016 (OP)
10/7/2008 2:45 PM
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I posted this earlier but no pin. Mustn't be important enough
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519732



You did not give a link. Threads never get pinned without a link.
meras
User ID: 519866
10/7/2008 2:45 PM
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[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Here is the Daily Mail article.


bump
meras
User ID: 519866
10/7/2008 2:47 PM
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[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 519732
10/7/2008 2:47 PM
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I posted this earlier but no pin. Mustn't be important enough



You did not give a link. Threads never get pinned without a link.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 487016


Fair enough
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489170
10/7/2008 2:56 PM
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great, now we'll all be bankers
Anonymous Coward
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10/7/2008 3:05 PM
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great, now we'll all be bankers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 489170


UK has twice the derivatives exposure of the US.

Perhaps you meant that you'll all be paupers.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487016 (OP)
10/7/2008 3:13 PM
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Nationalisation fears spark stock plunge
The Australian

October 08, 2008


SHARES in Royal Bank of Scotland plunged more than 35 per cent to under pound stg. 1 ($2.40) on fears a pound stg. 40 billion bailout of high-street banks would result in a partial nationalisation of several.

RBS shares fell to a record low of of 95p on suggestions that it had approached the Government about a capital injection. Lloyds TSB was down by almost 20 per cent and HBOS, its putative merger partner, fell by 18 per cent.

The position was not helped by a warning from the British Chambers of Commerce that Britain is already in recession and could face a prolonged downturn.

In London, the FTSE 100 opened up 1.8 per cent, rising 84.65 points to 4673 points, and soon extended those gains, moving up almost 3 per cent. But the banking sector fears reversed that with the FTSE off 42.81 points at 4546.38 in mid-morning trading.

The volatile start to trading followed Monday's record 7.8 per cent fall as panic swept global financial markets, sending America's Dow Jones industrial average down to a four-year low after dipping below 10,000 points for the first time since October 2004.

At one point the Dow was down more than 800 points.

The swings in London were mirrored in other European markets, as France's CAC 40 and the Dax in Germany both gave up earlier sharp gains.

Dealers had been banking that plans by the Government to pump pound stg. 40 billion of fresh capital into high-street banks coupled with banking reform legislation, due to be outlined today, would calm markets. The bill is expected to include formal measures for the authorities to take control of a failing bank and will give the Bank of England statutory responsibility for maintaining financial stability.

The Chancellor last night held talks with banking executives on how the scheme, which could see the Government effectively part-nationalise such banks, would work.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 515785
10/7/2008 3:21 PM
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Braking news: big explosion in my bathroom
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489170
10/7/2008 3:23 PM
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great, now we'll all be bankers


UK has twice the derivatives exposure of the US.

Perhaps you meant that you'll all be paupers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519643


oh yeah, my bad, thanks for the reminder
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 492646
10/7/2008 3:25 PM
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Braking news: big explosion in my bathroom
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 515785

Oh Shitflush
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 519556
10/7/2008 3:26 PM
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nationalising the banks wont do shit, the monatary system will still be up and running making more and more debt.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 445358
10/7/2008 3:27 PM
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Check out the future of Germany...



oxygen
User ID: 300487
10/7/2008 3:33 PM
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In this particular situation there is an oxymoron:
Smaller countries appear to be stronger in dealing with the problem (Iceland is an exception). Smaller countries are less exposed to "toxic" debt market so it is easier for their govs to guarantee a minimum deposit even by law.
EU decided on a 50k euro minimum but I just read that Austria, Spain and Greece will rise it to 100k.

When you guarantee deposits its a risk because you may have to inject money and save banks and in some cases bad banking practices will be covered too (some fat asses will be saved). However this could also result in foreign money to spread widely in countries with guaranteed banking integrity.

This whole story looks like a big big money laundering to me... Govs around the world spending mountains of money to save banks and bank toxic assets/investments/practices will be purified! Peace and prosperity for all ;p
Cholem Yesodeth
User ID: 487016
10/7/2008 3:42 PM
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Alistair Darling was about to raise the limit covering the government guarantee of UK bank saving accounts. After the Royal Bank of Scotland share value dropped by over 35% today, he knew he had to do something BIG in order to return confidence and stop the slide on bank shares. The question is: will it do the trick?
Fool
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10/7/2008 4:17 PM
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Alistair Darling was about to raise the limit covering the government guarantee of UK bank saving accounts. After the Royal Bank of Scotland share value dropped by over 35% today, he knew he had to do something BIG in order to return confidence and stop the slide on bank shares. The question is: will it do the trick?
 Quoting: Cholem Yesodeth


No
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487016 (OP)
10/7/2008 4:34 PM
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Here's a link to a video report by Channel 4 News, who broke the story of the British government buying into British banks:
[link to link.brightcove.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495562
10/7/2008 4:36 PM
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You'll have to forgive me I am part of the dumbed down generation. Is this a good thing or not?
5a
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487016 (OP)
10/7/2008 4:36 PM
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More video news of Channel 4's scoop:
[link to www.channel4.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 519732
10/7/2008 4:43 PM
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You'll have to forgive me I am part of the dumbed down generation. Is this a good thing or not?
5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 495562


It's a good thing........just like the $700bn bailout in the US was a good thing
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487016 (OP)
10/7/2008 4:48 PM
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You'll have to forgive me I am part of the dumbed down generation. Is this a good thing or not?
5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 495562

Good for banks in the short term (or at least that is the hope!). Bad for the British economy because nationalisation never works in the long run.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487016 (OP)
10/7/2008 4:50 PM
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You'll have to forgive me I am part of the dumbed down generation. Is this a good thing or not?
5a


It's a good thing........just like the $700bn bailout in the US was a good thing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519732

Yeah. It stopped the DOW from crashing below 10000, didn't it? LOL!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 518806
10/7/2008 4:59 PM
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Check out the future of Germany...



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 445358

well that CGI was lame, there were no blast waves and the size of the final meteorite actually asteroid was about a mile wide and 1.5+ miles long it would have done a heck of a lot more than just cause a crater that looked about 2 miles accross in that CGI video.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 518859
10/7/2008 5:02 PM
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Isn't derivatives why they put all those guys in jail in the 80s/90s? So why in the world would governments jump in to such an obvious ponzi-pyramid? It is all based on the idea that prices are always going to rise forever.

That is about as stupid as it gets. Eventually somebody pays. I have a feeling that the Individuals playing in this game meant to stick it to the governments. And they have.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487016 (OP)
10/7/2008 5:03 PM
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BBC News just revealed that up to £50 billion will be spent in a rescue package to buy shares in the major banks.
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