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justaspeck User ID: 519699 United States 10/08/2008 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to the quran, you're supposed to love that which is good and not so that which is bad. Quoting: FARIn other words, practical love. But I hear from one Christian, that I should love regardlessly. So I ask in turn, do Christian's love the devil? Do you love the Jew? Pride joined with many virtues chokes them all. Among those who stand, do not sit; among those who sit, do not stand. Among those who laugh, do not weep; among those who weep, do not laugh. |
FAR (OP) User ID: 412806 United Kingdom 10/08/2008 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to the quran, you're supposed to love that which is good and not so that which is bad. Quoting: justaspeckIn other words, practical love. But I hear from one Christian, that I should love regardlessly. So I ask in turn, do Christian's love the devil? Do you love the Jew? Which Jew? You? The god does not love those who do wrong. And Jesus told his desciples to be like the father. Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know! Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return. Quran 96:3-8 [link to www.islamicity.com] __________ "Investors must look at this situation as a portfolio opportunity. If you have some extra land (condo developers and house flippers, listen closely), grow a vegetable garden, if you are ambitious, raise some sheep and cows, they will come in handy". __________ How we got here: [link to www.hundredyearlie.com] Cure: [link to www.youtube.com] __________ Plasma aliens: [link to www.plasmametaphysics.com] __________ Were your ancestors pedophiles? [link to www.youtube.com] __________ [link to www.terrorism-illuminati.com] |
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Lotus Feet User ID: 433953 United Kingdom 10/08/2008 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Far the orthodox view of the word 'devil' like most things has been misinterpreted down the ages. Man can have the devil within him and those that seek to dominate humanity could be said to be this. However, there is a much bigger picture to it all. Jesus told people to love their enemies because he had the mercy and compassion to know and understand that it wasn't there fault when you go back to the root causes of the core issues. Children are born angelic it is man that pollutes them mind, body and soul and when this happens their energy can go astray and to the dark realms of being instead of the heaven realms of being. So it comes back to what you consider the devil to be? When Jesus was removing the demons within people he was removing their fears, anger and hatred. Love beyond measure Lotus i love satan |
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Lotus Feet User ID: 433953 United Kingdom 10/08/2008 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to the quran, you're supposed to love that which is good and not so that which is bad. Quoting: FARIn other words, practical love. But I hear from one Christian, that I should love regardlessly. So I ask in turn, do Christian's love the devil? Do you love the Jew? Which Jew? You? The god does not love those who do wrong. And Jesus told his desciples to be like the father. God loves everyone regardless. However, that does not mean that he does not correct people that stray from the path if they have the ears to listen. FAR and who are you to judge? Are you a saint? Jesus said 'he that has not sinned and can throw the first stone" As such no stones were thrown. Lotus i love satan |
Gradient Get over yourself User ID: 508533 United States 10/08/2008 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to the quran, you're supposed to love that which is good and not so that which is bad. Quoting: FARIn other words, practical love. But I hear from one Christian, that I should love regardlessly. So I ask in turn, do Christian's love the devil? Do you love the Jew? Which Jew? You? The god does not love those who do wrong. And Jesus told his desciples to be like the father. Jesus said he would go into ANY house where He was welcome. Stop baiting. glptrainer(at)yahoo.com |
justaspeck User ID: 519699 United States 10/08/2008 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you love the Jew? Quoting: FARWhich Jew? You? The god does not love those who do wrong. And Jesus told his desciples to be like the father. So you will not say you love the Jew, me AND my people. And you are clearly implying that we "do wrong"? Thank you, because you have actually answered my question, cousin. Pride joined with many virtues chokes them all. Among those who stand, do not sit; among those who sit, do not stand. Among those who laugh, do not weep; among those who weep, do not laugh. |
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justaspeck User ID: 519699 United States 10/08/2008 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And btw, when you change your name your user number stays the same mmmmmk? Quoting: GradientPride joined with many virtues chokes them all. Among those who stand, do not sit; among those who sit, do not stand. Among those who laugh, do not weep; among those who weep, do not laugh. |
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Lotus Feet User ID: 433953 United Kingdom 10/08/2008 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if Jesus hate Satan so much Quoting: Apolyon 499986i think Jesus will beheaded Judas at their first meeting The original meaning of 'hate' was 'love less'. 'Less Love'. Jesus did love less those that did harm to others and he knew that those with orthodox belief systems did harm to others and themselves. Lotus i love satan |
Lotus Feet User ID: 433953 United Kingdom 10/08/2008 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if Jesus hate Satan so much Quoting: Apolyon 499986i think Jesus will beheaded Judas at their first meeting Jesus would not harm anyone not even a fly. Only man hurts others physically. However, truth can hurt like a blade that cuts away disease to assist you to heal. If words can hurt you then it means that you have not become divine love and that the words are triggering an old issue within you that has a requirement to be healed. Lotus i love satan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 514132 United States 10/08/2008 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Far the orthodox view of the word 'devil' like most things has been misinterpreted down the ages. Man can have the devil within him and those that seek to dominate humanity could be said to be this. However, there is a much bigger picture to it all. Quoting: Lotus FeetJesus told people to love their enemies because he had the mercy and compassion to know and understand that it wasn't there fault when you go back to the root causes of the core issues. Children are born angelic it is man that pollutes them mind, body and soul and when this happens their energy can go astray and to the dark realms of being instead of the heaven realms of being. So it comes back to what you consider the devil to be? When Jesus was removing the demons within people he was removing their fears, anger and hatred. Love beyond measure Lotus Wrong again...when Jesus was casting out demons he was casting out demonic spirits and binding the demonic powers and pricepalities.Fear,anger,and hatred,arent demon spirits.They can be manifestations of opression and wrong thinking,not demonic possession.Just because somebody is angry or pissed off doesnt mean they are demon possesed. |
FAR (OP) User ID: 412806 United Kingdom 10/08/2008 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which Jew? You? Quoting: RealizeFirst 461501The god does not love those who do wrong. And Jesus told his desciples to be like the father. Which god? The god. [link to www.amazon.com] Refer to the above book if you do not understand. God loves everyone regardless. However, that does not mean that he does not correct people that stray from the path if they have the ears to listen. Quoting: Lotus FeetFAR and who are you to judge? Are you a saint? Jesus said 'he that has not sinned and can throw the first stone" As such no stones were thrown. Lotus Sorry, I'm only repeating what I read. So accusing me of judging people is irrelevant regarding asking the question of "do christians love the devil". Do you love the Jew? Quoting: justaspeckWhich Jew? You? The god does not love those who do wrong. And Jesus told his desciples to be like the father. So you will not say you love the Jew, me AND my people. And you are clearly implying that we "do wrong"? Thank you, because you have actually answered my question, cousin. If you've eaten your greens, you'll get your dessert. And no I didn't imply that you have done wrong, you assumed that I said you have done wrong, therefore you have judged me, therefore I judge you to be doing wrong in that aspect. Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know! Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return. Quran 96:3-8 [link to www.islamicity.com] __________ "Investors must look at this situation as a portfolio opportunity. If you have some extra land (condo developers and house flippers, listen closely), grow a vegetable garden, if you are ambitious, raise some sheep and cows, they will come in handy". __________ How we got here: [link to www.hundredyearlie.com] Cure: [link to www.youtube.com] __________ Plasma aliens: [link to www.plasmametaphysics.com] __________ Were your ancestors pedophiles? [link to www.youtube.com] __________ [link to www.terrorism-illuminati.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 519594 United States 10/08/2008 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to the quran, you're supposed to love that which is good and not so that which is bad. Quoting: FARIn other words, practical love. But I hear from one Christian, that I should love regardlessly. So I ask in turn, do Christian's love the devil? You should know: I discount the Koran entirely as a false book. My stance up front is that only the bible is true. If the Koran says that there is "practical love" then that means the human is making decisions, judging, who is worthy to love and who isn't. The bible tells us that the heart is deceitful above all things. Someone I may "feel" loving toward one day or year I may decide not to feel love toward two years later. Second: Only God knows all the facts, and for a human to decide under own power who is worthy of their love and who isn't is anathema to what Jesus stood for. He counted us ALL as sinner, therefore all are UNworthy to be loved. Yet He loves us all, unconditionally. To your question: The bible in Matthew 13 says that 39"and the enemy who sows them is the devil. " Satan is our enemy. However, in Luke 6:27 Jesus replied to a query about whom to love, "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28)." So, the answer is that even satan, our old enemy, we are supposed to love him as well. This concept is reiterated several times more, here is one: "Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse "(Romans 12:14). Love all, unconditionally and without strings. The only "practical" love is total love. |
Lotus Feet User ID: 433953 United Kingdom 10/08/2008 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong again...when Jesus was casting out demons he was casting out demonic spirits and binding the demonic powers and pricepalities.Fear,anger,and hatred,arent demon spirits.They can be manifestations of opression and wrong thinking,not demonic possession.Just because somebody is angry or pissed off doesnt mean they are demon possesed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514132Are you healer of consciousness like Jesus? Those that have felt the demon spirit of anger, fear etc know exactly what I speak of. In fact some clients have described it like the devil rearing from within when they have allowed their anger and buried rage to take them over. The light triggers the darkness and the darkness triggers the light until there is no more darkness left. Jesus said 'There is a light in the centre of man and if he does not shine there is darkness". When I walked through Jerusalem 50% of the people shone with light. Many of the others were lost in their own darkness of hatred. Lotus i love satan |
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FAR (OP) User ID: 412806 United Kingdom 10/08/2008 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should know: I discount the Koran entirely as a false book. My stance up front is that only the bible is true. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519594Do I say the word that was given to Jesus is false? No I don't. Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know! Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return. Quran 96:3-8 [link to www.islamicity.com] __________ "Investors must look at this situation as a portfolio opportunity. If you have some extra land (condo developers and house flippers, listen closely), grow a vegetable garden, if you are ambitious, raise some sheep and cows, they will come in handy". __________ How we got here: [link to www.hundredyearlie.com] Cure: [link to www.youtube.com] __________ Plasma aliens: [link to www.plasmametaphysics.com] __________ Were your ancestors pedophiles? [link to www.youtube.com] __________ [link to www.terrorism-illuminati.com] |
Lotus Feet User ID: 433953 United Kingdom 10/08/2008 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Far; how did you do that? I see/saw an International Muslim Matrimonial site embedded next to your first post; just an accident? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 496097Wacky. You know that Far is a Muslim right? Have you also noticed that on the Obama threads the Muslim ads come up as well? Lotus i love satan |
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FAR (OP) User ID: 412806 United Kingdom 10/08/2008 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Far; how did you do that? I see/saw an International Muslim Matrimonial site embedded next to your first post; just an accident? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 496097Wacky. I'm guessing it's a script on this website that checks the words used and then sends out an advert. Though I don't get an advert (registration). Those are ads automatically generated, taking their cues from the text in your post. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 426194Yeah, what ac said. Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know! Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return. Quran 96:3-8 [link to www.islamicity.com] __________ "Investors must look at this situation as a portfolio opportunity. If you have some extra land (condo developers and house flippers, listen closely), grow a vegetable garden, if you are ambitious, raise some sheep and cows, they will come in handy". __________ How we got here: [link to www.hundredyearlie.com] Cure: [link to www.youtube.com] __________ Plasma aliens: [link to www.plasmametaphysics.com] __________ Were your ancestors pedophiles? [link to www.youtube.com] __________ [link to www.terrorism-illuminati.com] |
Lotus Feet User ID: 433953 United Kingdom 10/08/2008 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should know: I discount the Koran entirely as a false book. My stance up front is that only the bible is true. Quoting: FARDo I say the word that was given to Jesus is false? No I don't. Good for you...all texts hold some truth including the Koran. Lotus i love satan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 514097 United States 10/08/2008 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I ask in turn, do Christian's love the devil? Quoting: FARHmmm, can't answer that one, not a Christian. However, I *DO* know that you love to start shit on GLP. Like I told you before, get rid of the Jihad vests, IEDs and quit beating women(uh, surah 4, ayat 34 in your koran)...and then you might have a saddle to mount your steed of self-righteousness, Far. Let's pretend the Truth lives in California. Islam is somewhere in New Hampshire. |
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