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ZOGBY: DONT BELIEVE THE DEMOCRAT'S BULL SHITE ~ THIS RACE IS TOO CLOSE TO CALL ~ NO WAY OBAMA HAS CLOSED THE DEAL. (PACNWGUY IS RIGHT AGAIN)

 
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ZOGBY: DONT BELIEVE THE DEMOCRAT'S BULL SHITE ~ THIS RACE IS TOO CLOSE TO CALL ~ NO WAY OBAMA HAS CLOSED THE DEAL. (PACNWGUY IS RIGHT AGAIN)
Pollster: Don’t believe the Dem hype
By Joe Dwinell & Jessica Fargen
Wednesday, October 8, 2008 - Updated 5m ago

The presidential race is still too close to call and could come down to the very last weekend before voters decide if they like or distrust Barack Obama, a national pollster predicts.

“I don’t think Obama has closed the deal yet,” pollster John Zogby told the Herald yesterday.

Zogby’s latest poll, released yesterday in conjunction with C-Span and Reuters, shows Obama and John McCain in a statistical dead heat, with the Illinois Democrat up 48-45 percent.

Zogby said the race mirrors the 1980 election, when voters didn’t embrace Ronald Reagan over then-President Jimmy Carter until just days before the election.

“The Sunday before the election the dam burst,” Zogby said of the 1980 tilt. “That’s when voters determined they were comfortable with Reagan.”

Now voters are wrestling with two senators with opposite resumes - Obama, at 47, the unknown, and the established 72-year-old McCain.

Zogby said he’s still hearing from moderates and non-partisan voters - what he calls “the big middle” - who are still shopping for a candidate.

“It still can break one way or the other,” Zogby says.

The Numbers

The three-day survey polled 1,220 likely voters - about 400 people a day. Zogby will continuously poll right up until the November election.

The latest poll numbers may reflect the bump that McCain received after his running mate, Alaskan Gov. Sarah Palin sparred with Obama’s running mate, Delaware Sen. Joe Biden during the first and only vice presidential debate last week.

The poll shows that the two White House contenders have no problem attracting support from their own parties.

Obama is winning 84 percent of the Democratic Party support and McCain has 85 percent of the GOP support, but Obama has the edge among sought-after Independent voters.

He leads McCain among independents, 48 percent to 39 percent, according to the poll.

Obama also has support from a slightly higher percent of conservative voters than McCain gets from liberal voters, but the advantage is small, according to the poll.

Pollsters surveyed 1,220 likely voters and asked approximately 39 questions. The margin of error is plus or minus 2.9 percentage points.

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Zogby also said Kerry would win in 2004 the day before the election. It turned out he was wrong and later changed the data on his website to show he predicted bush would win. i know because i checked zogby every day before the election and up until the day after. he lost all credibility with me and i paid no attention to his polls during the primaries or now during the general.

if you want to believe just 1 poll it should be gallup. its better to use real clears average of several polls though. every other poll has obama way ahead outside the margin of error. and his lead continues to increase in most polls.

if you're really into statistics and can interpret them go to www.fivethirtyeight.com they provide several polls from each state going back several months.
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LOL Pac speaking of himself as third person....Pac you have been wrong so many times its funny
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Zogby also said Kerry would win in 2004 the day before the election. It turned out he was wrong and later changed the data on his website to show he predicted bush would win. i know because i checked zogby every day before the election and up until the day after. he lost all credibility with me and i paid no attention to his polls during the primaries or now during the general.

if you want to believe just 1 poll it should be gallup. its better to use real clears average of several polls though. every other poll has obama way ahead outside the margin of error. and his lead continues to increase in most polls.

if you're really into statistics and can interpret them go to www.fivethirtyeight.com they provide several polls from each state going back several months.
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Pac is only "into" what the Republican party tells him to be "into".

He does not have his own ideas.
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Pollster: Don’t believe the Dem hype
By Joe Dwinell & Jessica Fargen
Wednesday, October 8, 2008 - Updated 5m ago

The presidential race is still too close to call and could come down to the very last weekend before voters decide if they like or distrust Barack Obama, a national pollster predicts.

“I don’t think Obama has closed the deal yet,” pollster John Zogby told the Herald yesterday.

Zogby’s latest poll, released yesterday in conjunction with C-Span and Reuters, shows Obama and John McCain in a statistical dead heat, with the Illinois Democrat up 48-45 percent.

Zogby said the race mirrors the 1980 election, when voters didn’t embrace Ronald Reagan over then-President Jimmy Carter until just days before the election.

“The Sunday before the election the dam burst,” Zogby said of the 1980 tilt. “That’s when voters determined they were comfortable with Reagan.”

Now voters are wrestling with two senators with opposite resumes - Obama, at 47, the unknown, and the established 72-year-old McCain.

Zogby said he’s still hearing from moderates and non-partisan voters - what he calls “the big middle” - who are still shopping for a candidate.

“It still can break one way or the other,” Zogby says.

The Numbers

The three-day survey polled 1,220 likely voters - about 400 people a day. Zogby will continuously poll right up until the November election.

The latest poll numbers may reflect the bump that McCain received after his running mate, Alaskan Gov. Sarah Palin sparred with Obama’s running mate, Delaware Sen. Joe Biden during the first and only vice presidential debate last week.

The poll shows that the two White House contenders have no problem attracting support from their own parties.

Obama is winning 84 percent of the Democratic Party support and McCain has 85 percent of the GOP support, but Obama has the edge among sought-after Independent voters.

He leads McCain among independents, 48 percent to 39 percent, according to the poll.

Obama also has support from a slightly higher percent of conservative voters than McCain gets from liberal voters, but the advantage is small, according to the poll.

Pollsters surveyed 1,220 likely voters and asked approximately 39 questions. The margin of error is plus or minus 2.9 percentage points.

ogoggle

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WooHoo!! Pat yourself on the back because one right wing media source is saying the same PREDICTABLE thing you did.

You kill me.

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lol..Is this supposed to mean that the fat lady is singing already?

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The rasmussen poll has obama dropping to 5 today. every day another point decline for the Messiah...

AS HE SPENDS 3-1 IN ADVERTISING.

HIS POLL NUMBER DECREASE.

WHY IS THAT?

2 YEARS, $400 MILLION AND HE CANT CLOSE THE DEAL.
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TPTB need at least a 50% voter turn out for credibility of next administration.

The next president was selected years ago. Hint "Bradley".
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lol..Is this supposed to mean that the fat lady is singing already?

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Not to put the horse before the carriage, but things are still trending Obama's way, and McCain's negative attacks are backfiring.
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The rasmussen poll has obama dropping to 5 today. every day another point decline for the Messiah...

AS HE SPENDS 3-1 IN ADVERTISING.

HIS POLL NUMBER DECREASE.

WHY IS THAT?

2 YEARS, $400 MILLION AND HE CANT CLOSE THE DEAL.
 Quoting: PACNWguy


To quote Rasmussen:

"The race remains quite stable--for the past fourteen days, Obama's support has ranged from 50% to 52% every day while McCain has been at 44% of 45%. "

If that continues, Obama wins with an electoral landslide.
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I believe in myassessment from the composite state by state polling data.

I'm telling you that RIGHT NOW - it's still too close to call, but Obama has the DEFINITE advantage.

I believe if McCain's to win, he MUST make up some major ground. I think it's highly likely he can win back Florida, Missouri and Virginia.

At that point, he still needs to take 10 more electoral votes away from Obama.

Possible candidates:

MI - 17 Electoral Votes - currently 48%-45% Obama
CO - 9 Electoral Votes - currently 51%-45% Obama
ME - 4 Electoral Votes - currently 49%-44% Obama
NM - 5 Electoral Votes - currently 49%-44% Obama


I think McCain WILL take FL, MO & VA, and I think he has an extremely GOOD chance of picking up 10 more electoral votes - so yea - still too close to call.

And even though it's a month away - a month is a long time - ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN!

Incidently, the composite popular vote: Obama 48.35% to McCain's 46.49%
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I believe in myassessment from the composite state by state polling data.

I'm telling you that RIGHT NOW - it's still too close to call, but Obama has the DEFINITE advantage.

I believe if McCain's to win, he MUST make up some major ground. I think it's highly likely he can win back Florida, Missouri and Virginia.

At that point, he still needs to take 10 more electoral votes away from Obama.

Possible candidates:

MI - 17 Electoral Votes - currently 48%-45% Obama
CO - 9 Electoral Votes - currently 51%-45% Obama
ME - 4 Electoral Votes - currently 49%-44% Obama
NM - 5 Electoral Votes - currently 49%-44% Obama


I think McCain WILL take FL, MO & VA, and I think he has an extremely GOOD chance of picking up 10 more electoral votes - so yea - still too close to call.

And even though it's a month away - a month is a long time - ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN!

Incidently, the composite popular vote: Obama 48.35% to McCain's 46.49%
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Oh, and right now, McCain has Ohio and North Carolina - BARELY! And those are two HEAVY HITTERS.

HE MUST NOT LOSE THOSE. IF HE LOSES EITHER ONE - HE'S LIKELY FINISHED NO MATTER WHAT.
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T O T A L D E N I A L !
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By the way, I was doing the same tracking when everyone was saying Kerry was going to win, and the whole time I was thinking - "There's no freakin' way!" I knew before those guys did that Bush was going to win.

In fairness, I don't remember how accurate I wound up being, but I wasn't too far off.
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MCCAIN NOW HAS A 9.5% CHANCE OF WINNING THIS ELECTION!

[link to www.fivethirtyeight.com]

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Mm.

Why is it that when a 'OBAMA IS WAY AHEAD - MCCAIN IS GETTING HIS WRINKLY AZZ KICKED' thread is posted (which seems to be every 5 minutes or so) it gets the absolute shit starred out of it, yet when PACNWGUY posts something similar he's berated and the thread rarely exceeds a 1-star rating?


It's all a bit tiresome.
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PACNWGUY IS RIGHT AGAIN!

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T O T A L D E N I A L !
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Nope - looking at facts and figures from the most recent polling data IN EACH STATE.

Not in denial.

This race is CLOSE.
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breaking - pacshit says pacshit is right !!

whata fucking JOKE

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By the way, I was doing the same tracking when everyone was saying Kerry was going to win, and the whole time I was thinking - "There's no freakin' way!" I knew before those guys did that Bush was going to win.

In fairness, I don't remember how accurate I wound up being, but I wasn't too far off.
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THE DIFFERENCE THIS TIME IS THAT THE ELECTION WILL NOT BE STOLEN AS IT WAS FOR 2000 & 2004.

MCCAIN THINKS HE HAS THIS OPTION BUT IT IS BEING BLOCKED!

NOT A SNOWBALL'S CHANCE IN HELL FOR MCSAME!
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What ever loser If McCain is over Obama by one point in any poll you call the election for him. PAC you are a joke with no punchline.
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wait until we see the results of this past weeks "obama is a radical" campaign.

Many of my friends and aquaintances were lukewarm at best in their support for obama and many were looking at 3rd party candidtates but now we are begining to see that obama isn't just another republicrat corporate shill.

He is gaining some counter culture cred.

He is starting to look like a REAL maverick who might actually be capable of REAL change!
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T O T A L D E N I A L !



Nope - looking at facts and figures from the most recent polling data IN EACH STATE.

Not in denial.

This race is CLOSE.
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WELL YOU ARE CLEARLY LOOKING IN THE WRONG PLACES...BOTH ZOGBY AND GRUDGE ARE SLANTED...FOR THE REAL SCOOP LOOK HERE:

[link to www.fivethirtyeight.com]

OTHERWISE, YOU ARE BLOWING SMOKE UP YOUR OWN ASS!
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Mm.

Why is it that when a 'OBAMA IS WAY AHEAD - MCCAIN IS GETTING HIS WRINKLY AZZ KICKED' thread is posted (which seems to be every 5 minutes or so) it gets the absolute shit starred out of it, yet when PACNWGUY posts something similar he's berated and the thread rarely exceeds a 1-star rating?


It's all a bit tiresome.
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If you pay attention and I can tell you don't Pac post more threads about polls then any other user.
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What ever loser If McCain is over Obama by one point in any poll you call the election for him. PAC you are a joke with no punchline.
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LOL

That's no different than any Obama supporter wanting HIS guy to win!

PAC wants McCain to win - of COURSE he's going to be happy if McCain is gaining ground.
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wait until we see the results of this past weeks "obama is a radical" campaign.

Many of my friends and aquaintances were lukewarm at best in their support for obama and many were looking at 3rd party candidtates but now we are begining to see that obama isn't just another republicrat corporate shill.

He is gaining some counter culture cred.

He is starting to look like a REAL maverick who might actually be capable of REAL change!
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IT WILL HAVE NO EFFECT!

JUST AS IN 1992 BUT WITH EVEN MORE EMPHASIS...


IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!
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Mm.

Why is it that when a 'OBAMA IS WAY AHEAD - MCCAIN IS GETTING HIS WRINKLY AZZ KICKED' thread is posted (which seems to be every 5 minutes or so) it gets the absolute shit starred out of it, yet when PACNWGUY posts something similar he's berated and the thread rarely exceeds a 1-star rating?


It's all a bit tiresome.

If you pay attention and I can tell you don't Pac post more threads about polls then any other user.
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Sure - but he is only one person. Look what he's up against.

I admire that kind of steely determination.
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Mm.

Why is it that when a 'OBAMA IS WAY AHEAD - MCCAIN IS GETTING HIS WRINKLY AZZ KICKED' thread is posted (which seems to be every 5 minutes or so) it gets the absolute shit starred out of it, yet when PACNWGUY posts something similar he's berated and the thread rarely exceeds a 1-star rating?


It's all a bit tiresome.
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