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Does the common man need the matrix?

 
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10/11/2008 10:17 AM
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Does the common man need the matrix?
Those of us who are somewhat spiritually evolved find meaning in our lives for ourselves, by ourselves.

However, the spiritually unevolved masses may be incapable of finding meaning in their lives for themselves, by themselves. Do they need the matrix to give their lives meaning?

I'm talking about TPTB here too. David Icke claims that the "elite" families are organic portals (he calls them "red dress programs"). They may need the matrix too!
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10/11/2008 10:39 AM
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"The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.
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10/11/2008 10:45 AM
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Re: Does the common man need the matrix?
We are human beings, not human doings!
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10/11/2008 10:46 AM
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We are human beings, not human doings!
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What? Please explain. hf
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10/11/2008 10:48 AM
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Simple, so many of us are caught in doing, we forget we are human beings. just be. in this collapse, we will only be left with time. in that time, practice just being yourself, this is your gift to the world!!
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10/11/2008 10:57 AM
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Simple, so many of us are caught in doing, we forget we are human beings. just be. in this collapse, we will only be left with time. in that time, practice just being yourself, this is your gift to the world!!
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Your gift to the world is giving others a valuable service. Outside of that, your life has little meaning.
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10/11/2008 10:58 AM
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conned into thinking you're a human doing!
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10/11/2008 11:03 AM
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conned into thinking you're a human doing!
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You reap what you sow. If you don't sow, how can you reap? In other words, you only get something good by earning it. You only earn things doing things!
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10/11/2008 11:05 AM
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I want to point out that what I just posted applies to both the physical realm and the spiritual realm.
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conned into thinking you're a human doing!
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I want to point out that your opinion is frightening to me. If everyone felt the way you do, we would still be in the stone age. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent electricity. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent computers. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent the internet. On and on, we would still be in the stone age if everyone had your attitude!
Reality is BS

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10/11/2008 11:10 AM
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conned into thinking you're a human doing!


I want to point out that your opinion is frightening to me. If everyone felt the way you do, we would still be in the stone age. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent electricity. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent computers. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent the internet. On and on, we would still be in the stone age if everyone had your attitude!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 522976

Why are you afraid of the stone age? Do you believe that our technology has made the world a better place? If you do what is your evidence?
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10/11/2008 11:11 AM
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no a human being does not just hang suspended in air. if you are not in touch with just being, how do you know what to do? trial and error has gotten us in the mess we are in. i battled trial and error one year ago and it almost won, thank God, it did not win.

new school must have coursework in tapping into being human.
setting stage for the golden age.
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Re: Does the common man need the matrix?
conned into thinking you're a human doing!


I want to point out that your opinion is frightening to me. If everyone felt the way you do, we would still be in the stone age. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent electricity. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent computers. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent the internet. On and on, we would still be in the stone age if everyone had your attitude!

Why are you afraid of the stone age? Do you believe that our technology has made the world a better place? If you do what is your evidence?
 Quoting: Reality is BS


I'm on this planet to learn. With the internet our opportunities for learning are unlimited. In the stone age, your entire life was spent focusing on survival with no opportunities to learn like we have today. It sounds like a nightmare to me. You?
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10/11/2008 11:18 AM
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Re: Does the common man need the matrix?
no a human being does not just hang suspended in air. if you are not in touch with just being, how do you know what to do? trial and error has gotten us in the mess we are in. i battled trial and error one year ago and it almost won, thank God, it did not win.

new school must have coursework in tapping into being human.
setting stage for the golden age.
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You didn't answer my points at all.

Anyways, I get a very slow vibe from you. I bet you were incarnated as a rock before and you really like that slow kind of vibratory rate. I guess there's nothing wrong that. My vibratory rate is fast, we'll never see eye to eye.
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Re: Does the common man need the matrix?
the biggest thing we have lost is learning to escape into ourselves.
"God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization
"I awoke only to find, that the rest of the world was still asleep"
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Re: Does the common man need the matrix?
repeating myself from above, in the collapse going on, we will only be left with time. my friend, there is no rush. rush causes stress, stress causes illness.
Reality is BS

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10/11/2008 11:27 AM
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Re: Does the common man need the matrix?
conned into thinking you're a human doing!


I want to point out that your opinion is frightening to me. If everyone felt the way you do, we would still be in the stone age. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent electricity. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent computers. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent the internet. On and on, we would still be in the stone age if everyone had your attitude!

Why are you afraid of the stone age? Do you believe that our technology has made the world a better place? If you do what is your evidence?


I'm on this planet to learn. With the internet our opportunities for learning are unlimited. In the stone age, your entire life was spent focusing on survival with no opportunities to learn like we have today. It sounds like a nightmare to me. You?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 522976

The happiness of the human race hasn't icreased since we started to measure it. There doesn't seem to be any relationship between wealth technology education etc. and happiness. I personally believe that technology is actually a distraction from what we really should be about.
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Re: Does the common man need the matrix?
repeating myself from above, in the collapse going on, we will only be left with time. my friend, there is no rush. rush causes stress, stress causes illness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519085


I was right. You just have a slow vibrational rate and you like it that way. I have a fast vibrational rate and I like that it way. Never shall we meet. Best of luck all the same. hf
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10/11/2008 11:32 AM
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Re: Does the common man need the matrix?
conned into thinking you're a human doing!


I want to point out that your opinion is frightening to me. If everyone felt the way you do, we would still be in the stone age. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent electricity. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent computers. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent the internet. On and on, we would still be in the stone age if everyone had your attitude!

Why are you afraid of the stone age? Do you believe that our technology has made the world a better place? If you do what is your evidence?


I'm on this planet to learn. With the internet our opportunities for learning are unlimited. In the stone age, your entire life was spent focusing on survival with no opportunities to learn like we have today. It sounds like a nightmare to me. You?

The happiness of the human race hasn't icreased since we started to measure it. There doesn't seem to be any relationship between wealth technology education etc. and happiness. I personally believe that technology is actually a distraction from what we really should be about.
 Quoting: Reality is BS


I would never have learned what we're about without technology. I was born into a Christian family and Christianity is just a program that takes you away from the truth.

However, thanks to technology, the internet in particular, I've been able to find lots of truth. Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Michael Tsarion, Allen Watt, etc. etc. - They all have parts of the truth (mixed with crap of course) but thanks to the net we really have a chance to find the truth. In the past, that wasn't the case.

Happiness is just one aspect of life. Growing as a spiritual being is the real point and you really can't do that without good information, imho.
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10/11/2008 11:34 AM
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Re: Does the common man need the matrix?
repeating myself from above, in the collapse going on, we will only be left with time. my friend, there is no rush. rush causes stress, stress causes illness.


I was right. You just have a slow vibrational rate and you like it that way. I have a fast vibrational rate and I like that it way. Never shall we meet. Best of luck all the same. hf
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Are you 25 yet?
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10/11/2008 11:38 AM
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Re: Does the common man need the matrix?
repeating myself from above, in the collapse going on, we will only be left with time. my friend, there is no rush. rush causes stress, stress causes illness.


I was right. You just have a slow vibrational rate and you like it that way. I have a fast vibrational rate and I like that it way. Never shall we meet. Best of luck all the same. hf


Are you 25 yet?
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I'm a lot older than that. What's your point?
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10/11/2008 11:41 AM
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The happiness of the human race hasn't icreased since we started to measure it. There doesn't seem to be any relationship between wealth technology education etc. and happiness. I personally believe that technology is actually a distraction from what we really should be about.
 Quoting: Reality is BS

We are using technology for ourselves when we could be using it to take care of our earth.
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The happiness of the human race hasn't icreased since we started to measure it.
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How about this:

Happiness is good.
Ignorance is bliss.

Therefore, ignorance is good.

See how scary that is?
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10/11/2008 11:54 AM
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Re: Does the common man need the matrix?
conned into thinking you're a human doing!


I want to point out that your opinion is frightening to me. If everyone felt the way you do, we would still be in the stone age. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent electricity. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent computers. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent the internet. On and on, we would still be in the stone age if everyone had your attitude!

Why are you afraid of the stone age? Do you believe that our technology has made the world a better place? If you do what is your evidence?
 Quoting: Reality is BS

True, but the technology itself is not evil human minds are evil technology only helps them achieve their bloodthirsty dreams more easily.

Scientists are not evil those who use the very same scientists to boost the human suffering are the real problem.

For example splitting the atom itself was not evil using it in a bomb is however.
The same nuclear technology produces clean energy so do the math...

I hate the system because it is corrupt.
Living in a modern society is possible in theory.
But there will always be greedy basterds who strive for power and more power. Always!

:rescuepit:
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repeating myself from above, in the collapse going on, we will only be left with time. my friend, there is no rush. rush causes stress, stress causes illness.


I was right. You just have a slow vibrational rate and you like it that way. I have a fast vibrational rate and I like that it way. Never shall we meet. Best of luck all the same. hf


Are you 25 yet?


I'm a lot older than that. What's your point?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 522976


i am how i am for purpose, and am sure that goes both ways.
have you gone through a tribulation of your life thus far?
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Re: Does the common man need the matrix?
conned into thinking you're a human doing!


I want to point out that your opinion is frightening to me. If everyone felt the way you do, we would still be in the stone age. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent electricity. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent computers. It took a lot of work (doing) to invent the internet. On and on, we would still be in the stone age if everyone had your attitude!

Why are you afraid of the stone age? Do you believe that our technology has made the world a better place? If you do what is your evidence?

True, but the technology itself is not evil human minds are evil technology only helps them achieve their bloodthirsty dreams more easily.

Scientists are not evil those who use the very same scientists to boost the human suffering are the real problem.

For example splitting the atom itself was not evil using it in a bomb is however.
The same nuclear technology produces clean energy so do the math...

I hate the system because it is corrupt.
Living in a modern society is possible in theory.
But there will always be greedy basterds who strive for power and more power. Always!

:rescuepit:
 Quoting: Pitt Bull


We as individuals can use technology for good.
hf
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Re: Does the common man need the matrix?
repeating myself from above, in the collapse going on, we will only be left with time. my friend, there is no rush. rush causes stress, stress causes illness.


I was right. You just have a slow vibrational rate and you like it that way. I have a fast vibrational rate and I like that it way. Never shall we meet. Best of luck all the same. hf


Are you 25 yet?


I'm a lot older than that. What's your point?


i am how i am for purpose, and am sure that goes both ways.
have you gone through a tribulation of your life thus far?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519085


Yes, worse tribulation than you may be able to imagine. I was diagnosed as being disabled due to mental diseases seven years ago. Thanks to constant hard work and research I'm living a normal life now. I've used no drugs and I've done my own therapy.

If I had your attitude, I would still be collecting disability checks and I would still be a prisoner to my mind. Your attitude scares me.
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Re: Does the common man need the matrix?
Our system of civilization has been glammed up in order to perpetuate a lie. A lie that states we are in control of this system. The only belief system that a human being is in control of is his own.

Thanks to the tricksters, human beings (especially in America) have lost the cognitive scope of what one human being actually means to the entire mad machine. The supposed lesser 50% are the fuel that drives all progress. There is not alot that can be done solely by one's self. How can you really devalue progress? We build homes and businesses, they are falling down, yet still standing. Why? maybe, an assault on all the truly good people of the world who try on a daily basis to do things the proper way.

I just wish that someone could explain the real reason why we are tanking our own economy. I think i know why. America is a military superpower. We have been since about 1920. We became, also, a power that was capable of structuring world order. I mean econimically. At least with presupposed, threatened war, there is security. We don't go to war.

The security that has been enacted over the last 7 years totally reeks of financial hegemony. Don't believe 'official estimates' of this war. Its more like a controlled demolition of our way of life. How did we spend 2 trillion dollars fighting a phantom?

WAKE UP! that is what people need to do. Our lives will never be the same. We can challenge and win against all odds if only we recognize the problem.
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Our system of civilization has been glammed up in order to perpetuate a lie. A lie that states we are in control of this system. The only belief system that a human being is in control of is his own.

Thanks to the tricksters, human beings (especially in America) have lost the cognitive scope of what one human being actually means to the entire mad machine. The supposed lesser 50% are the fuel that drives all progress. There is not alot that can be done solely by one's self. How can you really devalue progress? We build homes and businesses, they are falling down, yet still standing. Why? maybe, an assault on all the truly good people of the world who try on a daily basis to do things the proper way.

I just wish that someone could explain the real reason why we are tanking our own economy. I think i know why. America is a military superpower. We have been since about 1920. We became, also, a power that was capable of structuring world order. I mean econimically. At least with presupposed, threatened war, there is security. We don't go to war.

The security that has been enacted over the last 7 years totally reeks of financial hegemony. Don't believe 'official estimates' of this war. Its more like a controlled demolition of our way of life. How did we spend 2 trillion dollars fighting a phantom?

WAKE UP! that is what people need to do. Our lives will never be the same. We can challenge and win against all odds if only we recognize the problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 490599


The common man is a battery for the system but he or she does it willingly! We are complicit in our slavery.
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I was in a rush when i was in high school. looking back, i was biding time running in circles.
i rarely ever get sick, when i do, it's from catching some-thing from my kids.
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I was in a rush when i was in high school. looking back, i was biding time running in circles.
i rarely ever get sick, when i do, it's from catching some-thing from my kids.
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I don't think we're speaking the same language, literally. I think your words have a different meaning than mine. No problem. We can agree to disagree.





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