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TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD

 
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There are 12 major religions. There are many factions of each, but there are 12 majors.

Each religon has a following that is absolutely certain their religion is the correct true religion.

Christers reject 11 major religions as false and absurd. I just reject one more religion than christers. I reject all 12 as false and absurd.

Christes are christians because that is what they were taught from childhood.

Christers did not become a christian by researching all 12 religions and choosing the christian religion. All christians have been brain washed.

The truth is, there are NO supernatural gods of any kind in any religion. There are no devils, no demons no satans.

The christian religion has to have a devil to blame when things go wrong. Christians cannot allow any blame to fall on their god.

They have to have a devil to blame.

Without a devil and a hell, their entire religion collapses.

I am going to prove based on rational evidence, that there is no god, there is no devil, there is no hell, there is no heaven.



1. Prayers are never answered when verifiable things are prayed for.

Examples:

Christians have been praying for at least 50 years for their god to stop abortions, but their god has never stopped even one single abortion.

2. No amputee has ever had a limb picked up off the ground and healed back on.

3. No one with a bleeding open wound has ever been healed.

4. Three billion living and long dead christians have been praying for their god to appear on earth in person for 6,000 years.

The bible god has never been seen except in the fictional bible. The bible god is still a no show.....If the bible god existed, he obviously doesn't care anything at all about his silly followers.

What could a supernatural god be doing for 6,000 years? A real supernatural all powerful god could do anything with a though alone, yet the bible god can't take even one minute to appear on earth IN PERSON.?!!!!!!

5. Absolute proof your god can not really heal anyone. Gather together christians in the largest church possible. News media notified. Prayer event can be televised live worldwide.

Get a christian volunteer to walk on stage as every christian watching commences praying. There is no chance that a real god could miss several 100 million or so praying christians. As prayer continues the christian volunteer has a finger or hand chopped off. The severed limb must be allowed to fall to the floor with camera close ups from all angles to prevent fraud.

Meanwhile all christians are still praying enmass, begging their god to pick it up and heal it back on.

Praying can continue until the volunteer either bleeds to death or is treated by a DR.

The volunteer will NOT be healed. GUARANTEED.

Testimonials about this or that christian who had cancer, or someone's heart condition, or any church members cirrhosis of the liver etc etc etc, who were healed through prayer are just worthless testimonials.

None of that was visible. If It can't be seen it can't be proven. Testifying is meaningless. Proof must be visible to one and all..

Blind faith is meaningless and useless. There are two kinds of faith, demonstrated faith such as faith that your car will start because it always has, and blind faith such as belief in witches or goblins.

6. Christians claim they have a loving god, yet according to their own bible, their god slaughtered all the first born babies in Egypy one night, then slaughtered all the fist born animals too for good measure.

7. Also according to the bible the bible god slaughtered the entire population of the planet including all children, all babies, even all plants and animals.

This is a god to worship?


8. Christians blame free will for bad things that happen, but free will is is a false premise.

Heres why:

Chirstians claim thier god is all powerful and all knowing. If thats true the bible god knows in advance what all 6. 7 billion people on the planet will do....... before they do it.

No one has the option to change that which their god knows IN ADVANCE.... (Remember god is ALL KNOWING) that they will do.

If god is NOT all knowing then he has to sit back and wonder what each person will do next. In that case, god cannot be all knowing.

So either the bible god knows in advance what each of us will do, or he cannot be all knowing.

9. Christians claim they have a superenatural god but the only way to prove that is to ahve their god appear in person.

10. It is imcumbent on christians to actually prove this claim. I can claim that god Vishnew created everything. My claim has the same credibility as yours......... Exactly zero ......unless one of us can actually produce our god in person.

Neither one of us can do that because all gods are make believe. All are imaginary. Christers only hae a make believe god.
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OCD is treatable.

Just sayin'

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Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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disproving G-d:

you're doing it wrong.
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God might beg to differ.
And He's mighty big.
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disproving G-d:

you're doing it wrong.
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You also failed to address a single issue I rasied. BTW, Where is your assfaced god?
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Your definition of God is very very very very incomplete LOL ....STOP SEEING THINGS TWO DIMENSIONALLY !!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP SEEING THINGS LIKE THE PROGRAM WANTS YOU TO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the definition of God is extremely large and you just missed 99.99.99 percent of the definition of God.

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Man's symbiotic connection with the cosmos will be known and there is nothing which can stop that knowing. Because everything we all do everyday helps confirm that truth. It is just that we haven't reached the pinnacle of where it leads. But we will soon enough. We will either live or die with that knowledge. Between Heaven and Earth is us.

Be brave young warriors in truth.


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Only a miracle will save us now.


All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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1. Prayers are never answered when verifiable things are prayed for.

Examples:

Christians have been praying for at least 50 years for their god to stop abortions, but their god has never stopped even one single abortion.

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Sorry, but you are wrong. His quiet voice stopped me from going through with it.
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Your definition of God is very very very very incomplete LOL ....STOP SEEING THINGS TWO DIMENSIONALLY !!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP SEEING THINGS LIKE THE PROGRAM WANTS YOU TO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the definition of God is extremely large and you just missed 99.99.99 percent of the definition of God.

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Rather than speaking for your douche bag god, get that motherfucker to speak for him/itself.

BHAHAHAHAHahahahahahaahahahha!!

YOu can't do that. YOu dont have a real god. Your god is only a shit bag imaginary nothing.
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Your definition of God is very very very very incomplete LOL ....STOP SEEING THINGS TWO DIMENSIONALLY !!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP SEEING THINGS LIKE THE PROGRAM WANTS YOU TO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the definition of God is extremely large and you just missed 99.99.99 percent of the definition of God.

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Rather than speaking for your douche bag god, get that motherfucker to speak for him/itself.

BHAHAHAHAHahahahahahaahahahha!!

YOu can't do that. YOu dont have a real god. Your god is only a shit bag imaginary nothing.
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Who the hell are you to have to prove to you anything anyway, you are putting tickets on yourself, noone cares about you, not even Christians you sad sack.
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1. Prayers are never answered when verifiable things are prayed for.

Examples:

Christians have been praying for at least 50 years for their god to stop abortions, but their god has never stopped even one single abortion.




Sorry, but you are wrong. His quiet voice stopped me from going through with it.
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Did he call you on the phone?
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1. Prayers are never answered when verifiable things are prayed for.

Examples:

Christians have been praying for at least 50 years for their god to stop abortions, but their god has never stopped even one single abortion.




Sorry, but you are wrong. His quiet voice stopped me from going through with it.


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Did he call you on the phone?
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In a way, yes.
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I personally don't believe in God, but these are pretty asshat reasons that he doesn't exist. Gonna go down the line, kiddo.


I am going to prove based on rational evidence, that there is no god, there is no devil, there is no hell, there is no heaven.



1. Prayers are never answered when verifiable things are prayed for.

Examples:

Christians have been praying for at least 50 years for their god to stop abortions, but their god has never stopped even one single abortion.

Generalized statement, prayers have been answered in the past, even if their being answered is "pure coincidence", which I believe it is. To say that all prayers are never answered is wrong, because I'm positive that some prayers have been answered...just by coincidence, not by God. Wrong on 1.

2. No amputee has ever had a limb picked up off the ground and healed back on.

What exactly does this have to do with God existing? If a amputee could just pick his arm up off the ground and put it back on, would that prove that God exists? No, it may be a miracle, or it could be a new miracle in science...that farmer amputee lost both of his arms, and now has TWO NEW WORKING ARMS after a surgery...not immediate healing but again, your point was stupid.

3. No one with a bleeding open wound has ever been healed.

NO ONE WITH A BLEEDING OPEN WOUND HAS EVER BEEN HEALED. wow Well I'm glad that blood-clotting doesn't exist, dumbass. I guess no one has ever been cut before. Another dumb fucking reason.

4. Three billion living and long dead christians have been praying for their god to appear on earth in person for 6,000 years.

The bible god has never been seen except in the fictional bible. The bible god is still a no show.....If the bible god existed, he obviously doesn't care anything at all about his silly followers.

What could a supernatural god be doing for 6,000 years? A real supernatural all powerful god could do anything with a though alone, yet the bible god can't take even one minute to appear on earth IN PERSON.?!!!!!!

More than three billion, first of all. A valid point, but not one with much substance.

5. Absolute proof your god can not really heal anyone. Gather together christians in the largest church possible. News media notified. Prayer event can be televised live worldwide.

Get a christian volunteer to walk on stage as every christian watching commences praying. There is no chance that a real god could miss several 100 million or so praying christians. As prayer continues the christian volunteer has a finger or hand chopped off. The severed limb must be allowed to fall to the floor with camera close ups from all angles to prevent fraud.

Meanwhile all christians are still praying enmass, begging their god to pick it up and heal it back on.

Praying can continue until the volunteer either bleeds to death or is treated by a DR.

The volunteer will NOT be healed. GUARANTEED.

Testimonials about this or that christian who had cancer, or someone's heart condition, or any church members cirrhosis of the liver etc etc etc, who were healed through prayer are just worthless testimonials.

None of that was visible. If It can't be seen it can't be proven. Testifying is meaningless. Proof must be visible to one and all..

Blind faith is meaningless and useless. There are two kinds of faith, demonstrated faith such as faith that your car will start because it always has, and blind faith such as belief in witches or goblins.

A repeat of reasons 2 and 3. So you don't even really have 10 reasons. Again, a generalization...people HAVE in fact prayed to God and have been healed. I don't believe that God himself did it, but you said that it never happened, so you fail again.

6. Christians claim they have a loving god, yet according to their own bible, their god slaughtered all the first born babies in Egypy one night, then slaughtered all the fist born animals too for good measure.

7. Also according to the bible the bible god slaughtered the entire population of the planet including all children, all babies, even all plants and animals.

This is a god to worship?

This is a good point on the false basis of worshipping the Judeo-Christain god, but isn't a point that disproves he exists.


I didn't even bother reading the rest of your shoddily written, epic fail of a post. Stop insisting neo-atheism on people. I, again, don't personally believe in the Judeo-Christian god either, or any god for that matter...

But don't be a fuckin' dick going about disproving it.

If there is a god, I hope he kills you.

I don't know where we've been and I've just been there.
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I personally don't believe in God, but these are pretty asshat reasons that he doesn't exist. Gonna go down the line, kiddo.
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You sir, I use the term loosly, are a liar. You're a preacher. You steal through fraud, deception, and lies.

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I am going to prove based on rational evidence, that there is no god, there is no devil, there is no hell, there is no heaven.



1. Prayers are never answered when verifiable things are prayed for.

Examples:

Christians have been praying for at least 50 years for their god to stop abortions, but their god has never stopped even one single abortion.

Generalized statement, prayers have been answered in the past, even if their being answered is "pure coincidence", which I believe it is. To say that all prayers are never answered is wrong, because I'm positive that some prayers have been answered...just by coincidence, not by God. Wrong on 1.
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What shit. Not even a made up lie of one answered prayer?

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2. No amputee has ever had a limb picked up off the ground and healed back on.

What exactly does this have to do with God existing? If a amputee could just pick his arm up off the ground and put it back on, would that prove that God exists? No, it may be a miracle, or it could be a new miracle in science...that farmer amputee lost both of his arms, and now has TWO NEW WORKING ARMS after a surgery...not immediate healing but again, your point was stupid.

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YOur imaginary god never healed anythig verifiable. It can't even fart

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3. No one with a bleeding open wound has ever been healed.

NO ONE WITH A BLEEDING OPEN WOUND HAS EVER BEEN HEALED. wow Well I'm glad that blood-clotting doesn't exist, dumbass. I guess no one has ever been cut before. Another dumb fucking reason.
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nature causes blookd clotting. Slice your arm open and pray to your dirt bbag god to heals it up.

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4. Three billion living and long dead christians have been praying for their god to appear on earth in person for 6,000 years.

The bible god has never been seen except in the fictional bible. The bible god is still a no show.....If the bible god existed, he obviously doesn't care anything at all about his silly followers.

What could a supernatural god be doing for 6,000 years? A real supernatural all powerful god could do anything with a though alone, yet the bible god can't take even one minute to appear on earth IN PERSON.?!!!!!!

More than three billion, first of all. A valid pointbut not one with much substance.
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Not much substance? WEll..... Where is that prick you call dog er god? It has no class at all,

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5. Absolute proof your god can not really heal anyone. Gather together christians in the largest church possible. News media notified. Prayer event can be televised live worldwide.

Get a christian volunteer to walk on stage as every christian watching commences praying. There is no chance that a real god could miss several 100 million or so praying christians. As prayer continues the christian volunteer has a finger or hand chopped off. The severed limb must be allowed to fall to the floor with camera close ups from all angles to prevent fraud.

Meanwhile all christians are still praying enmass, begging their god to pick it up and heal it back on.

Praying can continue until the volunteer either bleeds to death or is treated by a DR.

The volunteer will NOT be healed. GUARANTEED.

Testimonials about this or that christian who had cancer, or someone's heart condition, or any church members cirrhosis of the liver etc etc etc, who were healed through prayer are just worthless testimonials.

None of that was visible. If It can't be seen it can't be proven. Testifying is meaningless. Proof must be visible to one and all..

Blind faith is meaningless and useless. There are two kinds of faith, demonstrated faith such as faith that your car will start because it always has, and blind faith such as belief in witches or goblins.

b]A repeat of reasons 2 and 3. So you don't even really have 10 reasons. Again, a generalization...people HAVE in fact prayed to God and have been healed. I don't believe that God himself did it, but you said that it never happened, so you fail again.
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Why is it always the asshole swho claim to speak for their dickless god? I want to hear from that scumbag god itslef.
Course that cant happen. Your god is only make believe.
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6. Christians claim they have a loving god, yet according to their own bible, their god slaughtered all the first born babies in Egypy one night, then slaughtered all the fist born animals too for good measure.

7. Also according to the bible the bible god slaughtered the entire population of the planet including all children, all babies, even all plants and animals.

This is a god to worship?

This is a good point on the false basis of worshipping the Judeo-Christain god, but isn't a point that disproves he exists.
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It proves that your fictional shit bag was a low life asshole monster murderer. N oreal god could possible be such a low low belly crawler.
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I didn't even bother reading the rest of your shoddily written, epic fail of a post. Stop insisting neo-atheism on people. I, again, don't personally believe in the Judeo-Christian god either, or any god for that matter...

But don't be a fuckin' dick going about disproving it.

If there is a god, I hope he kills you.

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Bwhahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Too bad because your god isnt even a turd. A turd woudl be an improvements. There is no god you asslicker.
You have only an empty bag of shit.
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and not all people who mention "god" are Christian... the discussion of god or gods can be purely esoteric, arcane and abstract and not for purpose of worship.
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I sense a lot of anger from you OP and I have to admit I have felt the same at some points, however I have to remember that such anger towards God does nothing, you may have to ask yourself why you have written such a thing? Does the existence or non existence actually affect you? What makes you want to shout your protest and create a list?

Perhaps you need to ask why you are putting so much negative energy into being angry at God and his followers, do something else and create positivity in your life and maybe then you may actually see clearly!
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1. Prayers are never answered when verifiable things are prayed for.

Examples:

Christians have been praying for at least 50 years for their god to stop abortions, but their god has never stopped even one single abortion.




Sorry, but you are wrong. His quiet voice stopped me from going through with it.


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Did he call you on the phone?



In a way, yes.
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In a way? What way? Did you request an autographed picture?
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OP's autistic.
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OP's autistic.
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no, likely not. More likely jsut blind by hate. He/she has a need to label anything "god" or "gods" as "Christian".
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GOD BLESS YOU OP YOU NEED IT
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That was my basic problem. Out of the 12, none are very compelling, that isn't even counting all the already discarded ones.

They are all really the same. You get promises in the afterlife if you obey the rules of the religion in this life. So you give your time, money and effort to this cause in the hopes that the people who are pitching it to you are correct. Even 1 out of 12 odds isn't that good. It's really actually one out of 24 because 1 in 12 assumes that one of the 12 are correct and if you give it a 50% chance that none are, you're talking not so good odds.
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It's as simple as this: you do not know every single thing that occurs in the universe. Period. Therefore, any idea that miracles have never happened is void.

You can say miracles happen all the time. I'd just point at a flower.

Figure it out. Good luck.
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OP's autistic.
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Thats OK, at least I dont worship your shit bag make believe crapola god.
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Atheism is what is called a "universal negative." One of the laws of logic is that you can't prove a universal negative... You would have to examine every part of the universe...

By the way, you would have to be very, very fast because, who knows, this God, these angels... may be very, very fast, and just after you get somewhere, they may have left for another part of the universe.

This means that you would have to be omnipresent. You would also have to know everything about every part of the universe, so you would be omniscient. Then, just at the point when you proved that there was no God, you would also have proven that you were one.

So in essence, Atheists negate their own existance... which is why it is said, "Atheists don't exist".

The burden of proof doesn't lie with those who believe in God (we have our proof that he exists)... it lies with those who don't believe in God (which have no proof) to prove there is no God... but you lose anyways according to the universal negative stated above.
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I sense a lot of anger from you OP and I have to admit I have felt the same at some points, however I have to remember that such anger towards God does nothing, you may have to ask yourself why you have written such a thing? Does the existence or non existence actually affect you? What makes you want to shout your protest and create a list?

Perhaps you need to ask why you are putting so much negative energy into being angry at God and his followers, do something else and create positivity in your life and maybe then you may actually see clearly!
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You're wrong as all chirster preachers are. I don't hate your god. y0ur god is not real. A god must actually exist before anyone can hate it.

If your god was real, obviously everyone would claim to love it rather than burn in hell.

Fortuntely your god isn't real so I can call your make believe god anything I want to. I have been doing for that thirty years.

Your god can't do anything about it because it's not real. It's a shit bag god.

Maybe I can save one or two people from a life supporting free loading preachers and from believing in a fear based non existent supernatural murderer

Your religion and your invisble imaginry god are pure shit.
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Atheism is what is called a "universal negative." One of the laws of logic is that you can't prove a universal negative... You would have to examine every part of the universe...

By the way, you would have to be very, very fast because, who knows, this God, these angels... may be very, very fast, and just after you get somewhere, they may have left for another part of the universe.

This means that you would have to be omnipresent. You would also have to know everything about every part of the universe, so you would be omniscient. Then, just at the point when you proved that there was no God, you would also have proven that you were one.

So in essence, Atheists negate their own existance... which is why it is said, "Atheists don't exist".

The burden of proof doesn't lie with those who believe in God (we have our proof that he exists)... it lies with those who don't believe in God (which have no proof) to prove there is no God... but you lose anyways according to the universal negative stated above.
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This is an incorrect analysis by any established rule of logic or critical thinking.

For "a believer", in ANYTHING there is a burden to demonstrate proof. That holds true for anything, whether it is a god or a UFO or the Great Pumpkin.

On the contrary, if you don't believe in something, you don't need to provide proof. That's like me saying I don't believe in UFO's and so the burden is on me to demonstrate why they do not exist. On the contrary, the burden is on the believer to demonstrate that they do exist.

As Carl Sagan said, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof"
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It's as simple as this: you do not know every single thing that occurs in the universe. Period. Therefore, any idea that miracles have never happened is void.

You can say miracles happen all the time. I'd just point at a flower.

Figure it out. Good luck.
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True, but I do know your invisble god is not real.

It's only make believe.

Flowers come from nature.
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sounds like OP has an anger management issue
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The religious [all of them ] are just brainwashed f****ing morons
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creating personal attacks such as those against those who do not know better makes you no better or no more enlightened than them
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Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
It's as simple as this: you do not know every single thing that occurs in the universe. Period. Therefore, any idea that miracles have never happened is void.

You can say miracles happen all the time. I'd just point at a flower.

Figure it out. Good luck.


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True, but I do know your invisble god is not real.

It's only make believe.

Flowers come from nature.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518398

Do you have a way to really prove it, I mean really prove it?

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