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TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD

 
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So to sum it up: OP has posted logical, well thought out and perfectly rational arguments that negate Christian belief.

And Christians have replied with "But I believe anyway". Yes, some more convoluted than others, but that's where it's at, really.
 Quoting: Witness_

false on one part: the fact that the OP has posted a logical and well thought out or perfectly rational arguments.

they're retarded.
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So to sum it up: OP has posted logical, well thought out and perfectly rational arguments that negate Christian belief.

And Christians have replied with "But I believe anyway". Yes, some more convoluted than others, but that's where it's at, really.
 Quoting: Witness_

Belief is not experience and Christians have no monopoly on God.

Can we have a real discussion?
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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So to sum it up: OP has posted logical, well thought out and perfectly rational arguments that negate Christian belief.

And Christians have replied with "But I believe anyway". Yes, some more convoluted than others, but that's where it's at, really.
 Quoting: Witness_



On my, another idiot. iamwith
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I have had many Prayers answered.

Period !

End of stupidity please ..



I pray in JESUS name, after repenting of any and all sin, even sins I may have done, that I did not know about. Then seeing that I obeyed the Gospel, as in ACTS 2:38, which is a must, for Prayer to be Answered. A servant must ask, in a humble manor, and it must be a selfless thing, you ask for, and it can not be something that goes against God's will.




So the real problem here is, GOD is not some power you get to control. If GOD desires to be kind, and hear your prayer, and then IF HE, wants to, He may well answer a prayer.

People do not give the Reverence and Obedience, mixed with good Godly fear of God Almighty.

This is why people think Prayer is not answered.

God is not your boy, who does as He is told. It is the other way around !
Fools..
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Oh, and just to address the "why do your hate God so much?" and its numerous derivatives above, first of all I cannot speak for OP but what I can say is that it's very important to discredit these irrational beliefs because of all the evil that they do.

The big three desert religions are an abomination and just seeing the way that Bush's cabal, the Israelies and the Islamists have behaved these past 10 years is proof enough that these dangerous invisible friends beliefs need to be stopped.

Proof ongoing is Sarah "the world is only 6000 years old" Palin and the legions in the US and across the globe that subscribe to these irrational, dangerous and outdated beliefs.

We are nearly in the year 2010 and we still have people believing in, and the world largely running on these beliefs in fairy tales.
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We are nearly in the year 2010 and we still have people believing in, and the world largely running on these beliefs in fairy tales.
 Quoting: Witness_


maybe the reason is that these "fairy tales" aren't quite "fairy tales"
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I have had many Prayers answered.

Period !

 Quoting: servant 435072


No you haven't. Period.
You are either lying or delusional. Probably both. And lying to both yourself and to us.

And I know these lies so well. Radical Christianity cost me my mother's life.

I have seen it all, heard it all, been up against all the major religions and most of the cults.

Yes, there are degrees of fanatism and the milder strains of Christianity probably do more good than bad, but in the end it's like drugs, the path to the dangerous hardcore stuff is clearly there, is an ever present danger and can only be controlled through total removal of the drugs themselves.
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Perhaps all this lack of God's "interference" is because we are in our eternal essence way beyond all this "human" petty bullshit and our Parents have full faith in our rising above it.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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We are nearly in the year 2010 and we still have people believing in, and the world largely running on these beliefs in fairy tales.


maybe the reason is that these "fairy tales" aren't quite "fairy tales"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 504071


Er, no.
They are simply fairy tales and blind belief, contrary to what these fairy tales tell you, actually doesn't make them come true.

It's a very dangerous mindset this whole "grain of mustard" belief system (a Christian will understand the reference). It's a core corruption of human logic and independent thought and that delusional "believe it hard enough and it will become true" nonsense is absolutely essential to these religions' survival.

And hence it's embedded in everything, even children's tales pumped out by Hollywood.

But it's nonsense. Billions of kids believe in Santa but sorry to tell you, Santa ain't true either.
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Most of you are going to be real dam surprised one day..


You will wish you had did a study on GOD for 10 years of your life, before you run off at the mouth as you do..

God is Real, and the evidence of His perfect creation, speak well enough for Him.

But you will find one day that it is the GOD of Israel, as in Israel the people, as in the scattered 12 tribes. AND His name is JESUS, that is the truth.

Not the jew god, satan either..

You will find out soon enough, that I told you the truth.
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I too have had my prayers answered and it had nothing to do with "earthly" things. It had to do with my soul find it's "way home"
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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I too have had my prayers answered and it had nothing to do with "earthly" things. It had to do with my soul find it's "way home"
 Quoting: Arboriel


Did you ever consider the possibility that you did it yourself? For example, you could have believed in the power of the onion and prayed to the onion every day then when things were good, you could say...here's proof of the onion god.

I hate to say it but the most thing in common among all religious believers around the world is a low IQ.
Arboriel

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Er, no.
They are simply fairy tales and blind belief, contrary to what these fairy tales tell you, actually doesn't make them come true.

It's a very dangerous mindset this whole "grain of mustard" belief system (a Christian will understand the reference). It's a core corruption of human logic and independent thought and that delusional "believe it hard enough and it will become true" nonsense is absolutely essential to these religions' survival.

And hence it's embedded in everything, even children's tales pumped out by Hollywood.

But it's nonsense. Billions of kids believe in Santa but sorry to tell you, Santa ain't true either.
 Quoting: Witness_

One of the biggest blows to true communion God I've found is the hyjacking of the work faith.

Where today people use it as meaning blind belief, It used to mean the unshakable knowing based upon first hand experience.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Did you ever consider the possibility that you did it yourself? For example, you could have believed in the power of the onion and prayed to the onion every day then when things were good, you could say...here's proof of the onion god.

I hate to say it but the most thing in common among all religious believers around the world is a low IQ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 524523

No, It was a point of utter helplessness and surrender of trying to think of ways out myself. I was answered not in spiritual terms but answered none the less and nearly right away. Coincidense...perhaps...then again "I've experienced too many coincidenses for it to be a coincidence."

It was a very "beyond myself" experience.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
Arboriel

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Most of you are going to be real dam surprised one day..


You will wish you had did a study on GOD for 10 years of your life, before you run off at the mouth as you do..

God is Real, and the evidence of His perfect creation, speak well enough for Him.

But you will find one day that it is the GOD of Israel, as in Israel the people, as in the scattered 12 tribes. AND His name is JESUS, that is the truth.

Not the jew god, satan either..

You will find out soon enough, that I told you the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 435072

Thankfully it will be a pleasent surprise and they and God will laugh, embrace, slap each other on the back and plan their next adventure!
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Coincidence is not a kosher word.
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I hate being late.

Did the OP leave?


Okay here's reason 11


The god say's there is no god...
Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know!
Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return.

Quran 96:3-8

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I hate being late.

Did the OP leave?


Okay here's reason 11


The god say's there is no god...
 Quoting: FAR

but Himself.
sry.
Arboriel

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Coincidence is not a kosher word.
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Well....non-kosher happens, deal with it. chuckle
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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It's as simple as this: you do not know every single thing that occurs in the universe. Period. Therefore, any idea that miracles have never happened is void.

You can say miracles happen all the time. I'd just point at a flower.

Figure it out. Good luck.


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True, but I do know your invisble god is not real.

It's only make believe.

Flowers come from nature.

Do you have a way to really prove it, I mean really prove it?



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Try this on for size:

The one true god that created eveything, is actually named God "Big Dick". Big Dick created you too.

Prove that the one true God, my God, God Big Dick, didn't create everything, including flowers and you.


I am not going to argue with you about your beliefs, that is the way you feel i respect that, I will tell you the reason why I know there is a GOD spirit that created everything.
I had two near death expierences and both times I was saved. If you hold on to your personal anger it will only harm you at the end. I´m only saying, go out, look at how everything has been done regardless of whatever happend to you and think, meditate, if you still find no reason for God existance, then I can only pray for you.
Good luck OP.
GOD BLESS
 Quoting: IN GOD I TRUST 507408


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If you are going to pray for me, pray to your toaster.
I want something that's really real to hear your prayers.

Your testimonials are totally uselss. You have no proof. Christers are the biggest liars on the planet.

If you have a real god prove it.

Drag it's sorry ass to earth from wherever it's hiding out.

Course you can't do that.

That's because your god is totally bogus.
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OP, you disbeliever, do you not fathom that "will not" isn't the same as "cannot". If God does not feed you, it's hardly because he can't. Your ego is misplaced, so much that you would never humble yourself before the Creator and submit, even if the Signs were present. This is the root of your problem.
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OP's autistic.

no, likely not. More likely just blind by hate. He/she has a need to label anything "god" or "gods" as "Christian".


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I dont hate anyone. I just hope to prevent others from becoming ensnared by belief in your supernatural pig shit.

It chaps brain dead christers ass's that they can't produce their god.

But that's because you dont have a god to produce.

Hahahahahaha

LMAO! You don't see my point... I'm not christian, nor do I follow any set religion, nor have I ever been baptized or any of that. You post hateful worded things set to upset those who do have the faith and belief. You did it a little while ago on a different thread that had NOTHING to do with Christianity and I thought it funny enough to come see what you were about. I'm pointing out, you are making assumptions about others here without actually knowing their words. Sorta funny, really. Only someone blind by hate could do that.

 Quoting: Geogal 373387


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Your a christer all right. You christers certainly know all about hate. The fog is very thick in whats left of your mind.
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OP,
Your every continued heartbeat and breath
is only by the permission of God.

One day,
maybe 50 years from now,
maybe 20 years from now,
or maybe tomorrow,
you will be dead,
and you will be startled to suddenly find yourself before the God you spit on and shake your puny fist at
and perhaps only then will you recognize the foolishness of your ingratitude.

No one is promised tomorrow.
Not me. Not you. Not them:
[link to www.mydeathspace.com]

It would be wise to reconsider your ways.

But as you will.
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Arboriel

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mydeathspace.com.......laugh
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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OP is a douchebag because he insists he is correct to a point where he cannot be convinced otherwise.

He has already lost.
I don't know where we've been and I've just been there.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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You want something that is not possible

Why should God force you or anyone to believe in him by appearing himself as you described OP?

We are free beings, not robots to be programmed!!! (from God's perspective anyway, what we (are allowed) do to each other has nothing to do with that)

God does not force us (to believe) and come to us in open public and doing miracles like you wish, that's for good reasons I could write a whole book of

it will not be changed because you want it that way

what God would that be if you could force him to do what you want?

you are the one that must seek and knock, and find
but you are not doing that

logic? use logic and study what free will means and you will have to come to the conclusion that no one can show you God's existence and nobody who could do it would ever do that!

You can only ask for help to find the right way to the right door to knock
for the rest you are on your own!

And you need an open mind and heart, for me you seem to have that door shut and locked (only my humble opinion, don't want to insult you my friend)

do not ask for proof of God, that will never work OP
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 515919


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Blab blab blab blab. Who cares what you think. I dont want any help. You preachers have nothing of to offer but vodoo hokum and bunkum.

You don't have a real god. Thats for sure.

its a bitch isnt it? not having a real god. having to pretend all the time. Yep, it's a bitch for sure.
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world is full of buffoons



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You are proof of that.
Arboriel

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OP is a douchebag because he insists he is correct to a point where he cannot be convinced otherwise.

He has already lost.
 Quoting: LushLife

Sadly having to agree with you.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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First of all, since you don't believe that there is a God, then all your points are nothing more than a delusional psychosis trying to invoke circular reasoning; which is at best; Childish, and at worse, pure idiocy.

All your points are pure conjecture and a matter of opinion, based upon that psychosis I spoke about in point one.

I have pointed out evidence against these points before, but they were only ignored, which shows a bias that will not be changed by any reasoning, also pointing to the psychosis of which I spoke of earlier.

And finally: this is about the umpteenth time that I have heard this crap spew out on this forum, which is the clearest evidence of all of psychosis, probably brought on with your dabbling with Satanism. You are an idiot, that's in the throughs of mental illness; I doubt that your thread will convince anyone to join your psychosis, which makes this thread, an exercise in futility.
 Quoting: Wingedlion/Whiterider 524512


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I related what your shitty bible said about your imaginary god. According to your bible, your god was a monster murderer. That motherfucker slaughtered millions of babies alone, not to mention adults.

That asshole sends hurricanes, floods, tornados, etc etc etc, which have killed millions more. A real god could stop all of them with only a thought.

Your god has no thought.

Your god has nothing.

If it did, it would have killed me long ago.

I have been stomping on your god's dick snd kicking his nuts up into his asshole for thirty years now.

Your god can't do anything about it either.

PS, your devils and demons and satans are shit too.

You should seriously consider mental hospitalization.
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OP is a douchebag because he insists he is correct to a point where he cannot be convinced otherwise.

He has already lost.

Sadly having to agree with you.
 Quoting: Arboriel



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It really sucks, having to pretend you have a real god doesn't it?

Mwhahahahaha