Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 3,284 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 1,788,876
Pageviews Today: 2,559,674Threads Today: 731Posts Today: 14,435
07:13 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD

 
Geogal

User ID: 373387
United States
10/13/2008 01:43 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
No, Arboriel, you don't sound like a broken record. a tsunami, even a fairly massive one, would only hit certain areas. A large enough ice sheet could, yes, flood a number of areas, but THAT flood would drain away fairly quickly, and would only hit areas within a certain "zone" of where the ice sheet broke, not the entire world.

From what I can peice together it was a couple thousand foot wave that traveled up all the coastlines....

Cetainly not your 40 day rain out but a poplulation leveler non the less.

And ice age glacial tsunamis...now there's an interesting phenomenon!
 Quoting: Arboriel

got a link for this? I've not really heard anything about it, and I've studies tsunami stuff. It'd make a interesting read so see where the info comes from and what it says. But, again, it would cover the coast lines, not the entire planet.
Woman of white garment, foreign woman, earth-eating woman, taking and giving life, she is Pele

"ONCE IN HIS LIFE, EVERY MAN IS ENTITLED TO FALL MADLY IN LOVE WITH A GORGEOUS REDHEAD" - LUCILLE BALL
Arboriel

User ID: 334323
United States
10/13/2008 02:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
got a link for this? I've not really heard anything about it, and I've studies tsunami stuff. It'd make a interesting read so see where the info comes from and what it says. But, again, it would cover the coast lines, not the entire planet.
 Quoting: Geogal

You're probably going to laugh but....

[link to the12thplanetjoint.tribe.net]

Certainly in the realm of xeno-speculation but the book Slave Species of god, compiles a great deal of this ancient info.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
Geogal

User ID: 373387
United States
10/13/2008 02:42 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
got a link for this? I've not really heard anything about it, and I've studies tsunami stuff. It'd make a interesting read so see where the info comes from and what it says. But, again, it would cover the coast lines, not the entire planet.

You're probably going to laugh but....

[link to the12thplanetjoint.tribe.net]

Certainly in the realm of xeno-speculation but the book Slave Species of god, compiles a great deal of this ancient info.
 Quoting: Arboriel

I'll check it and check other info I know of... sometimes, some sites like that have real info, sometimes fiction made to sound real. hugz!
Woman of white garment, foreign woman, earth-eating woman, taking and giving life, she is Pele

"ONCE IN HIS LIFE, EVERY MAN IS ENTITLED TO FALL MADLY IN LOVE WITH A GORGEOUS REDHEAD" - LUCILLE BALL
Arboriel

User ID: 334323
United States
10/13/2008 02:48 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
got a link for this? I've not really heard anything about it, and I've studies tsunami stuff. It'd make a interesting read so see where the info comes from and what it says. But, again, it would cover the coast lines, not the entire planet.

You're probably going to laugh but....

[link to the12thplanetjoint.tribe.net]

Certainly in the realm of xeno-speculation but the book Slave Species of god, compiles a great deal of this ancient info.

I'll check it and check other info I know of... sometimes, some sites like that have real info, sometimes fiction made to sound real. hugz!
 Quoting: Geogal

That site (i just found btw) is a pretty good distilation of the Eridu text.

I try to entertain all possiblities and I know truth is stranger than fiction!

Hugz back atcha babe ;)
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
Geogal

User ID: 373387
United States
10/13/2008 09:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
You're probably going to laugh but....

[link to the12thplanetjoint.tribe.net]

Certainly in the realm of xeno-speculation but the book Slave Species of god, compiles a great deal of this ancient info.

I'll check it and check other info I know of... sometimes, some sites like that have real info, sometimes fiction made to sound real. hugz!

That site (i just found btw) is a pretty good distilation of the Eridu text.

I try to entertain all possiblities and I know truth is stranger than fiction!

Hugz back atcha babe ;)
 Quoting: Arboriel


LOL! Heck, Arboriel... I had suspicions of what I was gona read when I first read his bio. Then, he mentions an exact date (13k years ago) for the previous "flood" and then connects it to Nibiru... sorry, but, that just loses me. I could get heavily into it, but let's just say that 3600 goes into 13,000 only 3.6111 times, and a couple years (2012 or 2050) 'taint gona make much of a wedge into that number. I could go on ripping the faulty science I read just on that page, but will refrain.

But, he started with the assumption that we are still in a warming cycle, when the major science that studies that has been saying for over a year that, nope, it's actually cooling. Again, he sites basic assumptions about the antarctic, and from sites I've read of the actual scientists working there, some of what he goes over doesn't really hold water, or ice.

I will force myself to read on, and hope my head doesn't explode, and check his sources, simply for the sake that YOU gave me the link and info. Take that as a compliment. With what I've read in only a few paragraphs, normally I'd give up on what he has to say as burnt toast.

Also, I'll assume that the date for the previous flash flood you mentioned due to ice collapse is about the Noah flood date? Please correct me if I've got the wrong date assumption. I'll check some info that I know of and see what it says in regards to that date and flash flood evidence and ice shelf collapse evidence. (but, from what I understand of how ice shelves collapse etc... it's not so easy to assume and ice shelf collapse and specific old dates like that... you said there is some kinda witness?)

But, just as a sideline thought, some 95% of the worlds fresh water is held in ice and about 90% of that is held at the antarctic. 96% of said ice in NOT at the shelves, it's held in the middle/central area where the ice is actually thickening and it's getting colder. If ALL the ice in the world would melt, it could add about 60 meters, or about 250 feet, to sea level. This figure does not include evaporation into the air nor include water table rise and saturation of places like the Mohave, african and other deserts. So, assume 220-230 feet rise approx. I believe that each of the Hawaiian islands would still have parts of each island still rising above the sea, correct? If just the shelves melt (and the arctic and greenland) and we assume it doesn't all wind up thickening the ice over the antarctic continent, not including evaporation, etc, give or take 10-15 feet SL rise max.
Woman of white garment, foreign woman, earth-eating woman, taking and giving life, she is Pele

"ONCE IN HIS LIFE, EVERY MAN IS ENTITLED TO FALL MADLY IN LOVE WITH A GORGEOUS REDHEAD" - LUCILLE BALL
idiot
User ID: 508637
United States
10/13/2008 09:55 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
you forgot that man created god

in his own image!

man tries to speak to god

god ignores man

today more people worship money then any god

today, religions and houses of god pay no taxes

all men who pay taxes are slaves

man-gods pay no taxes, why?

(men everywhere are taxes beyond 50% of eaches wealth, which makes them poorer over time, man-gods get richer over time)

all organized religions are designed to further enslave men

freemen are the enemy of the man-god system

freemen refuse to be enslaved by false doctrines

all freemen think for themselves, a dangerous concept man-gods loath

all man-gods study the corrupt man-god system and promote servitude

pure corruption and evil needs no introduction, hello man-god

no freemen exist anymore anywhere on earth, thanks to the man-gods

the man-god has the ultimate upper hand, man-gods are societial parasites

world currencies are being manipulated now on a global scale

for the purpose of world domination by the man-gods

P.S. destruction of the man-gods will someday result in true freedom

one world currency = new world order == 0 freemen





hiding
adx
User ID: 525490
United States
10/13/2008 09:58 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
you're silly.
i came to Christ via research.
your disproofs are ridiculous.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 520101
Canada
10/13/2008 10:05 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
GOD is imaginary: (50 reasons why)

[link to godisimaginary.com]
PBMOM
User ID: 525501
United States
10/13/2008 10:22 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
YOU HAVE A LOT MORE FAITH THAN I DO TO BELIEVE GOD DOES NOT EXIST. YOU BETTER BE RIGHT, THERE'S A LOT RIDING ON IT. AND I AM GOING TO PRAY FOR YOU. I AM GOING TO PRAY THAT GOD CRUSHES EVERY ASPECT OF YOUR LIFE AND MAKES YOU SO MISERABLE THAT ALL THAT IS LEFT TO DO IS CRY OUT TO HIM, AND THEM YOU WILL KNOW THAT HE IS GOD.
Do YOU like Chris Brown?
User ID: 546971
Australia
11/09/2008 08:26 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
I like how your "top ten reasons" focus squarely on Crhistianity instead of the "11" other "major religions" as well. If you want to disprove religion all together you are going to need to attack more than just Christianity you insolent little cunt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 489828


I like how it says top 10 reasons there is no God...as in only focusing on god, not allah or any other gods, so yes he's gonna direct it at christianity...cunt

get ur facts straight before you try to act tough
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 546971
Australia
11/09/2008 08:27 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
1. Prayers are never answered when verifiable things are prayed for.

Examples:

Christians have been praying for at least 50 years for their god to stop abortions, but their god has never stopped even one single abortion.




Sorry, but you are wrong. His quiet voice stopped me from going through with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 523778



that quiet voice is called a conscience...not god
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 546978
Taiwan
11/09/2008 08:39 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
The ONE reason I KNOW there is NO GOD, is this:

NOT ONE of its followers has ever DONE JACK FOR ME.
VVizz

User ID: 546984
Belgium
11/09/2008 09:02 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
There are 12 major religions. There are many factions of each, but there are 12 majors.

Each religon has a following that is absolutely certain their religion is the correct true religion.

Christers reject 11 major religions as false and absurd. I just reject one more religion than christers. I reject all 12 as false and absurd.

Christes are christians because that is what they were taught from childhood.

Christers did not become a christian by researching all 12 religions and choosing the christian religion. All christians have been brain washed.

The truth is, there are NO supernatural gods of any kind in any religion. There are no devils, no demons no satans.

The christian religion has to have a devil to blame when things go wrong. Christians cannot allow any blame to fall on their god.

They have to have a devil to blame.

Without a devil and a hell, their entire religion collapses.

I am going to prove based on rational evidence, that there is no god, there is no devil, there is no hell, there is no heaven.



1. Prayers are never answered when verifiable things are prayed for.

Examples:

Christians have been praying for at least 50 years for their god to stop abortions, but their god has never stopped even one single abortion.

2. No amputee has ever had a limb picked up off the ground and healed back on.

3. No one with a bleeding open wound has ever been healed.

4. Three billion living and long dead christians have been praying for their god to appear on earth in person for 6,000 years.

The bible god has never been seen except in the fictional bible. The bible god is still a no show.....If the bible god existed, he obviously doesn't care anything at all about his silly followers.

What could a supernatural god be doing for 6,000 years? A real supernatural all powerful god could do anything with a though alone, yet the bible god can't take even one minute to appear on earth IN PERSON.?!!!!!!

5. Absolute proof your god can not really heal anyone. Gather together christians in the largest church possible. News media notified. Prayer event can be televised live worldwide.

Get a christian volunteer to walk on stage as every christian watching commences praying. There is no chance that a real god could miss several 100 million or so praying christians. As prayer continues the christian volunteer has a finger or hand chopped off. The severed limb must be allowed to fall to the floor with camera close ups from all angles to prevent fraud.

Meanwhile all christians are still praying enmass, begging their god to pick it up and heal it back on.

Praying can continue until the volunteer either bleeds to death or is treated by a DR.

The volunteer will NOT be healed. GUARANTEED.

Testimonials about this or that christian who had cancer, or someone's heart condition, or any church members cirrhosis of the liver etc etc etc, who were healed through prayer are just worthless testimonials.

None of that was visible. If It can't be seen it can't be proven. Testifying is meaningless. Proof must be visible to one and all..

Blind faith is meaningless and useless. There are two kinds of faith, demonstrated faith such as faith that your car will start because it always has, and blind faith such as belief in witches or goblins.

6. Christians claim they have a loving god, yet according to their own bible, their god slaughtered all the first born babies in Egypy one night, then slaughtered all the fist born animals too for good measure.

7. Also according to the bible the bible god slaughtered the entire population of the planet including all children, all babies, even all plants and animals.

This is a god to worship?


8. Christians blame free will for bad things that happen, but free will is is a false premise.

Heres why:

Chirstians claim thier god is all powerful and all knowing. If thats true the bible god knows in advance what all 6. 7 billion people on the planet will do....... before they do it.

No one has the option to change that which their god knows IN ADVANCE.... (Remember god is ALL KNOWING) that they will do.

If god is NOT all knowing then he has to sit back and wonder what each person will do next. In that case, god cannot be all knowing.

So either the bible god knows in advance what each of us will do, or he cannot be all knowing.

9. Christians claim they have a superenatural god but the only way to prove that is to ahve their god appear in person.

10. It is imcumbent on christians to actually prove this claim. I can claim that god Vishnew created everything. My claim has the same credibility as yours......... Exactly zero ......unless one of us can actually produce our god in person.

Neither one of us can do that because all gods are make believe. All are imaginary. Christers only hae a make believe god.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518398


You have a strange logic.
You switch from the concept to 'proof a God', to the
concept of 'Christian' God.
All arguments fails.

Because.
God does not need a prayer.
Does not need devotion.
Does not need all of you.
Pretty arrogant most of those, who believe are.
Always thinking, I pray and I will get.
You bring argument forward related to
some beliefs about God.

God is ALL what is.
So ALL what You do see (and not do see) is God.
Because You see there is something,
so there is God.

The fact You exist, is proof of God.
Because, there can not be something,
created from nothing.
So it was always there.
There is no start, no end of Universe.
It was always there, in some or another form.

You are a 'tone', a 'layer' in God.
You have a vehicule, Your body.
But Your Spirit is immortal and does
have the same capacities as God.
You only need to remember who You are,
and to achieve back those capacities.
For that You have Free Will,
to do what You want, to feel and
think what You want.
Agreed, all of this does have influences
from many external signals such as beliefs,
people or the signals from the body etc.
However, You have the right to think, to accept
or reject who You are.
Time is endless, so You play in the Garden
of Infinity, to master to become more ONE
with God, the Universe, the Allmighty Consciousness.
if YOU believe, God does not answer a prayer,
it will be as that. You get what You believe.
Because You are creator as well.

So You are at some level 'God'.
the fact YOU exists,
proofs, there is 'God'.
I can claim, You do not exist.
You are a clone, a hologram, a robot.
But You can proof for YOURSELF,
You do exist.
So does 'God'.

You can claim, I saw people die.
But You did not die.
And IF Your (body) dies.
You will see,
if You stop to exist,
or Your Spirit keeps to live.
Right now, You can not proof
You will not exist, when You die.
So I tell You, You will not die.
You will see.
Nobody does die,
they only discontinue to use a body.

That's the sound on Universe.
You are a tone,
God is all music.
Become part of this music,
or all Music.

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 555058
United States
11/20/2008 01:32 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
For all those commennting- believers or not- I would like you to consider what you saying. Within the historical timeline of human religion, "god" in some way shape or form has manifest itself into the practices, culture, and lives of the followers under his rule. Today, we would look upon the god of fire, or the god of wisdom as ludicrous knowing the scientific explanation behind many of lifes events. However, The basis to the argument that God does not exist has strong support for foundation. In the world we see children waking up to mothers prostituting themselves for the family's existence, chemical weapons and nuclear arms used on fellow brothers living in the world, children raped by the religious institutions leaders, all showing the inhumanous and godlessness in our world.
To address the first arguments made above, it seems you have made a plee based on the results of prayer. However, your conclusions on the basis of a God seemed to be all made on the quantity of prayer among believers. If there is a God, the argument being made that he should hear his creation solely on the large numbers praying for help would not make sense. Just because 20,000 followers cry out for the arm of one who it had just been removed doesn't mean God will and is obligated to answer the prayers. In the context to the Christian bible, Jesus is told by the devil to jump knowing the angels of the Lord will catch Him not letting one hair on his body be touched. Jesus responds stating thou shalt not test the Lord our God. To base the existence of God by slicing off the arm and pleeing for its healing would seem to contradict the beliefs of Jesus, who is assumed to be God made man. The next problem made is the reaction to those claiming to be believers in Christ on the quote. In the Christian bible, Jesus is asked what the most important commandments are responding: You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your mind. You shall love your neighbor as yourself. Those claiming to be Christians calling the initial posts as Crap or Sh** seem not to know God himself. In the bible did Christ cry out casting those who nailed stakes through tendons and bones of His wrist to hell and praying for their death? No, instead he prayed for their forgiveness and the holes in their fundamental beliefs in who God is. In the same way those who outrage believers or slaughter the innocent should not be hated, but should be given compassion knowing they have not yet embraced the good news. For everyone who critized the intial message let me ask you, have you ever taken the path you found to suite you at the time-whether that me sexual impurtiy, not trusting in the Lord, or disregarding his word. Have you not sinned and in the Lord's eyes fall with those who curse His name, equal in unrighteousness? What right do you have then to critize those who slander your beliefs when you yourselves don not up hold them?

For more concrete evidence of the existence of a higher being I myself turn to science. This idea of God seems at first to be contradicting but when examined makes logical sense. Who created God if he does exist then? Well, no one! To put God in the same class as us- dependant on earthly needs such as food, shelter, air, given into birth from other beings is not what the creator of the universe would exist as. To say that we were created by our parents, created by their parents, created by ancestors, by evolution, by the universe, by God, by another God wouldn't make sense either, If there is an infinite regression of causes, then by definition the whole process could never begin! One video that always makes me sit in awe is the hubble's views on outer space. [link to www.youtube.com] It makes your problems seem insignificant huh! ashes to ashes dust to dust... But with this evidence it seems impossible that after billions of years we just appeared! So for those who curse God and do not acknowledge Him, whether hurt by those around you or something in your life, remember how big and powerful God must have been just to create our universe and how much he loved you just to send his Son so that we might be able to associate with Him at some level and stand under him in some sort of righteousness. And to those who curse the sinners around you remember you yourself have sinned and fallen short from the kingdom of God and that Jesus desires mercy, not sacrifice. For He have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 555056
United States
11/20/2008 01:36 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
the OP is obviously under the delusion that 'god' is an old man in robes sitting in clouds
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 555056
United States
11/20/2008 01:41 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
The ONE reason I KNOW there is NO GOD, is this:

NOT ONE of its followers has ever DONE JACK FOR ME.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 546978


comment #2

FFS, expecting something else to do something for you ????


what kind of life is that?

wake up on another beautiful day, poor yourself a cup of coffee, and say "HMM WHAT SHOULD I EXPECT THE WORLD TO GIVE ME WHILE I DO NOTHING FOR MYSELF"

wake up people, no one is going to save you, there's no end of the world that will end your miseries by delivering you to a real hell on earth full of more miseries, and in the end...

you got legs? walk with them
you got arms? make something with them
you got a brain? THINK with it

this welfare thinking of i-deserve-to-be-as-cool-as-people-that-work-very-hard is ridiculous. use your GOD given gifts and make something for yourself FFS!!!!
J
User ID: 554241
United States
11/20/2008 02:38 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
Christes are christians because that is what they were taught from childhood.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 518398


Wrong. Most American Christians are raise in the government education that is atheist. If we ever find Christianity it is only later in life with much personal search.

1. Prayers are never answered when verifiable things are prayed for.

Examples:

Christians have been praying for at least 50 years for their god to stop abortions, but their god has never stopped even one single abortion.

2. No amputee has ever had a limb picked up off the ground and healed back on.

3. No one with a bleeding open wound has ever been healed.

5. Absolute proof your god can not really heal anyone. Gather together christians in the largest church possible. News media notified. Prayer event can be televised live worldwide.

Get a christian volunteer to walk on stage as every christian watching commences praying. There is no chance that a real god could miss several 100 million or so praying christians. As prayer continues the christian volunteer has a finger or hand chopped off. The severed limb must be allowed to fall to the floor with camera close ups from all angles to prevent fraud.

Meanwhile all christians are still praying enmass, begging their god to pick it up and heal it back on.

Praying can continue until the volunteer either bleeds to death or is treated by a DR.

The volunteer will NOT be healed. GUARANTEED.

Testimonials about this or that christian who had cancer, or someone's heart condition, or any church members cirrhosis of the liver etc etc etc, who were healed through prayer are just worthless testimonials.

None of that was visible. If It can't be seen it can't be proven. Testifying is meaningless. Proof must be visible to one and all..

Blind faith is meaningless and useless. There are two kinds of faith, demonstrated faith such as faith that your car will start because it always has, and blind faith such as belief in witches or goblins.

His will be done. Prayers are answered often before they are even asked. Many Christians have no needs not met. the needs were met before prayer was ever needed.

Sinners can pray all they want and it will not even be heard. You must be a true blue commandment keeping christian, as instructed in the word, and even then God's will be done.

All the babies will go to heaven. If they grew in this wicked world they could be lost. This could be the reason, not saying it is. God's will be done.



4. Three billion living and long dead christians have been praying for their god to appear on earth in person for 6,000 years.

The bible god has never been seen except in the fictional bible. The bible god is still a no show.....If the bible god existed, he obviously doesn't care anything at all about his silly followers.

What could a supernatural god be doing for 6,000 years? A real supernatural all powerful god could do anything with a though alone, yet the bible god can't take even one minute to appear on earth IN PERSON.?!!!!!!

9. Christians claim they have a superenatural god but the only way to prove that is to ahve their god appear in person.

That's not true. God walked in the Garden of Eden, appeared many times in the OT as a messenger, appeared to Moses in the burning bush, was in the fire with Shadrack and the other two, and finally came to earth in the flesh as Jesus Christ. He has since left the building and will not be back until the second Coming.

6. Christians claim they have a loving god, yet according to their own bible, their god slaughtered all the first born babies in Egypy one night, then slaughtered all the fist born animals too for good measure.

That was Satan that slaughtered the first born trying to kill baby Jesus. Satan used the Roman Empire, just as he does today (Dragon).

7. Also according to the bible the bible god slaughtered the entire population of the planet including all children, all babies, even all plants and animals.

This is a god to worship?

You keep repeating this over and over, even after being told this was justice. The next time you ask it will be the same answer. The only conclusion one could reach with your attitude is you are anti-justice. You would have mass-murderers and chaos rule.

8. Christians blame free will for bad things that happen, but free will is is a false premise.

Heres why:

Chirstians claim thier god is all powerful and all knowing. If thats true the bible god knows in advance what all 6. 7 billion people on the planet will do....... before they do it.

No one has the option to change that which their god knows IN ADVANCE.... (Remember god is ALL KNOWING) that they will do.

If god is NOT all knowing then he has to sit back and wonder what each person will do next. In that case, god cannot be all knowing.

So either the bible god knows in advance what each of us will do, or he cannot be all knowing.

God does know the beginning from the end, as written, but even the angels had free will. They chose sin and were cast to earth. God allows sin to separate the good from the wicked before eternity.

10. It is imcumbent on christians to actually prove this claim. I can claim that god Vishnew created everything. My claim has the same credibility as yours......... Exactly zero ......unless one of us can actually produce our god in person.

Neither one of us can do that because all gods are make believe. All are imaginary. Christers only hae a make believe god.

Credibility for God comes from the weight of evidence. Science and history agree with the biblical God over all other.


OP, you are either a Satanist or a Marxist and possibly both, why don't you move on with your life and quit worrying about what others believe. If you don't want to believe, whatever, but when you attack Christianity, unjustified I would add, you are being political in the way of Marxist revolution. I would suggest you are a product of our dumbed down marxist education. You are the brainwashed.
coward23487
User ID: 554185
New Zealand
11/20/2008 02:45 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
GOD IS ALL LOVE.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 546121
United States
11/20/2008 02:58 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
While some of these neared valid reasons. Just because you don't agree with the way God does things doesn't make Him not existing. Some of these were critiques of God's character. Just to let you know he doesn't care what you or I think of Him. However he does listen to pleas and prayers of His people.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 555715
United States
11/28/2008 06:36 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
GOD IS ALL LOVE.
 Quoting: coward23487 554185



----------------------------------------------------


god is all hate and death. No love at all.


god even hates all babies.

Heres Proof


If your god is ALL POWERFUL,

Why doesn't he/it wave his hand and stop:

A. Rapes of babies.

B. babies being blown to pieces in wars.

C. Babies being born with two heads.

D Abortions.

E. Murder of babies that have been born.

F. Babies being born diseased.

G. Babies being born deformed.

H Especially babies being born with two heads.

I. Millions of babies starving to death every year.

Either the bible god is not ALL POWERFUL, or the bible god just loves to watch babies suffer and die.

I can post verses where your god actually kills lots of babies himself and othere where he orders babies slaughtered by bashing their little heads on the rocks
or ordering others to be stoned to death.


Yep.... thats the insane monster god you chirsters worship.



-----------------
All for God`s Glory
User ID: 561247
Canada
11/28/2008 07:02 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
OP IS NOTHING BUT A LIAR! AND A DECEIVER!
GOD IS REAL. GOD EXISTS!
GOD SAYS IN THE HOLY BIBLE, I AM.
HE IS THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND JACOB.
THE GOD OF MOSES. THE GOD OF OUR ANCESTORS!
EVERYTHING SPEAKS ABOUT GOD, THE BEAUTY IN NATURE, THE UNIVERSE.
OP YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.
All for God`s Glory
RO-BE-RT
User ID: 561272
Philippines
11/28/2008 07:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
ONENESS in CHRIST means ONE NEST in discovering the the C-enter H-eavenly R-estoration/Research I-n S-cientific/Spiritual T-ruth...

What we see here on Earth as you said that there are 11 other Major Religions beside your 1 Religion...

Your 1 own Religion must be connected above using God's dome symbolizing the RA-IN-BOW..


When your own Religion is covered by the Light from RA, then your 1 Religion becomes the 7 SPIRITS (Holy Spirit) as represented by the 7 Rainbow Colors...then you can use your 7 colors to connect with the 11 other Religions.

7 - 11 means infecting other Religions that you have same FAITH but with different NAMES, different PATHS but with the same DESTINATION.

The PYRAMID was built to remind us that WE ARE ALL PART OF OF THE STRUCTURE, if we learn to HELP ONE ANOTHER climb the 7 colored stairs leading to OUR s-OUR-ce...

7 colored RAINBOW - 11(passageway) leading to the "ONE"


------------------GOD-----------------
------------------704-----------------
---------------352---352--------------
------------176---176---176-----------
---------88----88----88----88---------
------44----44----44----44----44------
---22----22----22----22----22----22---
11----11----11----11----11----11----11

ONENEST is the SUSI(KEY)...SUSI is the opposite of I-SUS

when the 12 TRIBES unite...then there is ONENESS with 704=GOD...then GOD'S WILL IS DONE...

Let the FAITH in RELIGION unite in ONENESS, not unite RELIGION in BC-NEST = BUSINESS. Faith is FREE, WISDOM is FREE and not PAID once you connect your SPIRIT to the SOUL of our s-OUR-ce..

GOD BECOMES NOTHING BECAUSE HE IS AMONGST US....
Neen
User ID: 555797
United States
11/28/2008 07:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
Proselytizing athiests are such funny things.

Seriously, what is the point? If there really is no God, then
nothing bad will happen when we die and life simply goes on for everyone else. big waste of time logically to try to convert people to not believe in something you've decided doesn't exist.

Why are you fighting against a non-existent God, OP?

think about it.

Maybe He really does exist, deep down you know it, but just
can't stand the idea of being responsible for your own actions.
nOOr
User ID: 561254
United Kingdom
11/28/2008 07:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
Greetings!!

When Imam Ali was asked about Faith in Religion, he replied that the structure of faith is supported by four pillars endurance, conviction, justice and jihad.

Endurance is composed of four attributes: eagerness, fear, piety and anticipation (of death). so whoever is eager for Paradise will ignore temptations; whoever fears the fire of Hell will abstain from sins; whoever practices piety will easily bear the difficulties of life and whoever anticipates death will hasten towards good deeds.

Conviction has also four aspects to guard oneself against infatuations of sin; to search for explanation of truth through knowledge; to gain lessons from instructive things and to follow the precedent of the past people, because whoever wants to guard himself against vices and sins will have to search for the true causes of infatuation and the true ways of combating them out and to find those true ways one has to search them with the help of knowledge, whoever gets fully acquainted with various branches of knowledge will take lessons from life and whoever tries to take lessons from life is actually engaged in the study of the causes of rise and fall of previous civilizations .

Justice also has four aspects depth of understanding, profoundness of knowledge, fairness of judgment and dearness of mind; because whoever tries his best to under- stand a problem will have to study it, whoever has the practice of studying the subject he is to deal with, will develop a clear mind and will always come to correct decisions, whoever tries to achieve all this will have to develop ample patience and forbearance and whoever does this has done justice to the cause of religion and has led a life of good repute and fame.

Jihad is divided into four branches: to persuade people to be obedient to Allah; to prohibit them from sin and vice; to struggle (in the cause of Allah) sincerely and firmly on all occasions and to detest the vicious. Whoever persuades people to obey the orders of Allah provides strength to the believers; whoever dissuades them from vices and sins humiliates the unbelievers; whoever struggles on all occasions discharges all his obligations and whoever detests the vicious only for the sake of Allah, then Allah will take revenge on his enemies and will be pleased with Him on the Day of Judgment.

There are four causes of infidelity and loss of belief in Allah: hankering after whims, a passion to dispute every argument, deviation from truth; and dissension, because whoever hankers after whims does not incline towards truth; whoever keeps on disputing every argument on account of his ignorance, will always remain blind to truth, whoever deviates from truth because of ignorance, will always take good for evil and evil for good and he will always remain intoxicated with misguidance. And whoever makes a breach (with Allah and His Messenger) his path becomes difficult, his affairs will become complicated and his way to salvation will be uncertain.

Similarly, doubt has also four aspects absurd reason- ing; fear; vacillation and hesitation; and unreasonable surrender to infidelity, because one who has accustomed himself to unreasonable and absurd discussions will never see the Light of Truth and will always live in the darkness of ignorance. One who is afraid to face facts (of life, death and the life after death) will always turn away from ultimate reality, one who allows doubts and uncertainties to vacillate him will always be under the control of Satan and one who surrenders himself to infidelity accepts damnation in both the worlds.

There are many educated people who have ruined their future on account of their ignorance of religion. Their knowledge did not prove of any avail to them.

*****WHOEVER CLASHES WITH THE TRUTH WILL BE KNOCKED DOWN BY IT*****
Wingedlion/Whiterider​
User ID: 561242
United States
11/28/2008 07:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
GOD IS ALL LOVE.



----------------------------------------------------


god is all hate and death. No love at all.


god even hates all babies.

Heres Proof


If your god is ALL POWERFUL,

Why doesn't he/it wave his hand and stop:

A. Rapes of babies.

B. babies being blown to pieces in wars.

C. Babies being born with two heads.

D Abortions.

E. Murder of babies that have been born.

F. Babies being born diseased.

G. Babies being born deformed.

H Especially babies being born with two heads.

I. Millions of babies starving to death every year.

Either the bible god is not ALL POWERFUL, or the bible god just loves to watch babies suffer and die.

I can post verses where your god actually kills lots of babies himself and othere where he orders babies slaughtered by bashing their little heads on the rocks
or ordering others to be stoned to death.


Yep.... thats the insane monster god you chirsters worship.



-----------------
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 555715







What I can't figure out is why you are wasting so much time and energy trying to convince people that something doesn't exist? It would be like me spending all my time trying to convince people that Martians are actually green cheese addicts...either God exists, or you are going insane!
Because if He doesn't exist, then all your effort iw worthless, and if He does exist, then all your work is worthless, either way, your a troubled person with some serious psychological issues. You can't run from God, He will drive you to insanity if you do, seems as if your already there.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 555715
United States
11/28/2008 09:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
GOD IS ALL LOVE.



----------------------------------------------------


god is all hate and death. No love at all.


god even hates all babies.

Heres Proof


If your god is ALL POWERFUL,

Why doesn't he/it wave his hand and stop:

A. Rapes of babies.

B. babies being blown to pieces in wars.

C. Babies being born with two heads.

D Abortions.

E. Murder of babies that have been born.

F. Babies being born diseased.

G. Babies being born deformed.

H Especially babies being born with two heads.

I. Millions of babies starving to death every year.

Either the bible god is not ALL POWERFUL, or the bible god just loves to watch babies suffer and die.

I can post verses where your god actually kills lots of babies himself and othere where he orders babies slaughtered by bashing their little heads on the rocks
or ordering others to be stoned to death.


Yep.... thats the insane monster god you chirsters worship.



-----------------







What I can't figure out is why you are wasting so much time and energy trying to convince people that something doesn't exist? It would be like me spending all my time trying to convince people that Martians are actually green cheese addicts...either God exists, or you are going insane!
Because if He doesn't exist, then all your effort iw worthless, and if He does exist, then all your work is worthless, either way, your a troubled person with some serious psychological issues. You can't run from God, He will drive you to insanity if you do, seems as if your already there.
 Quoting: Wingedlion/Whiterider 561242
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 555715
United States
11/28/2008 09:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
GOD IS ALL LOVE.



----------------------------------------------------


god is all hate and death. No love at all.


god even hates all babies.

Heres Proof


If your god is ALL POWERFUL,

Why doesn't he/it wave his hand and stop:

A. Rapes of babies.

B. babies being blown to pieces in wars.

C. Babies being born with two heads.

D Abortions.

E. Murder of babies that have been born.

F. Babies being born diseased.

G. Babies being born deformed.

H Especially babies being born with two heads.

I. Millions of babies starving to death every year.

Either the bible god is not ALL POWERFUL, or the bible god just loves to watch babies suffer and die.

I can post verses where your god actually kills lots of babies himself and othere where he orders babies slaughtered by bashing their little heads on the rocks
or ordering others to be stoned to death.


Yep.... thats the insane monster god you chirsters worship.



-----------------







What I can't figure out is why you are wasting so much time and energy trying to convince people that something doesn't exist? It would be like me spending all my time trying to convince people that Martians are actually green cheese addicts...either God exists, or you are going insane!
Because if He doesn't exist, then all your effort iw worthless, and if He does exist, then all your work is worthless, either way, your a troubled person with some serious psychological issues. You can't run from God, He will drive you to insanity if you do, seems as if your already there.
 Quoting: Wingedlion/Whiterider 561242
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 555715
United States
11/28/2008 09:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
GOD IS ALL LOVE.



----------------------------------------------------


god is all hate and death. No love at all.


god even hates all babies.

Heres Proof


If your god is ALL POWERFUL,

Why doesn't he/it wave his hand and stop:

A. Rapes of babies.

B. babies being blown to pieces in wars.

C. Babies being born with two heads.

D Abortions.

E. Murder of babies that have been born.

F. Babies being born diseased.

G. Babies being born deformed.

H Especially babies being born with two heads.

I. Millions of babies starving to death every year.

Either the bible god is not ALL POWERFUL, or the bible god just loves to watch babies suffer and die.

I can post verses where your god actually kills lots of babies himself and othere where he orders babies slaughtered by bashing their little heads on the rocks
or ordering others to be stoned to death.


Yep.... thats the insane monster god you chirsters worship.



-----------------







What I can't figure out is why you are wasting so much time and energy trying to convince people that something doesn't exist? It would be like me spending all my time trying to convince people that Martians are actually green cheese addicts...either God exists, or you are going insane!
Because if He doesn't exist, then all your effort iw worthless, and if He does exist, then all your work is worthless, either way, your a troubled person with some serious psychological issues. You can't run from God, He will drive you to insanity if you do, seems as if your already there.
 Quoting: Wingedlion/Whiterider 561242
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 555715
United States
11/28/2008 09:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
GOD IS ALL LOVE.



----------------------------------------------------


god is all hate and death. No love at all.


god even hates all babies.

Heres Proof


If your god is ALL POWERFUL,

Why doesn't he/it wave his hand and stop:

A. Rapes of babies.

B. babies being blown to pieces in wars.

C. Babies being born with two heads.

D Abortions.

E. Murder of babies that have been born.

F. Babies being born diseased.

G. Babies being born deformed.

H Especially babies being born with two heads.

I. Millions of babies starving to death every year.

Either the bible god is not ALL POWERFUL, or the bible god just loves to watch babies suffer and die.

I can post verses where your god actually kills lots of babies himself and othere where he orders babies slaughtered by bashing their little heads on the rocks
or ordering others to be stoned to death.


Yep.... thats the insane monster god you chirsters worship.



-----------------







What I can't figure out is why you are wasting so much time and energy trying to convince people that something doesn't exist? It would be like me spending all my time trying to convince people that Martians are actually green cheese addicts...either God exists, or you are going insane!
Because if He doesn't exist, then all your effort iw worthless, and if He does exist, then all your work is worthless, either way, your a troubled person with some serious psychological issues. You can't run from God, He will drive you to insanity if you do, seems as if your already there.
 Quoting: Wingedlion/Whiterider 561242
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 555715
United States
11/28/2008 09:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: TOP TEN REASONS THERE IS NO GOD
GOD IS ALL LOVE.



----------------------------------------------------


god is all hate and death. No love at all.


god even hates all babies.

Heres Proof


If your god is ALL POWERFUL,

Why doesn't he/it wave his hand and stop:

A. Rapes of babies.

B. babies being blown to pieces in wars.

C. Babies being born with two heads.

D Abortions.

E. Murder of babies that have been born.

F. Babies being born diseased.

G. Babies being born deformed.

H Especially babies being born with two heads.

I. Millions of babies starving to death every year.

Either the bible god is not ALL POWERFUL, or the bible god just loves to watch babies suffer and die.

I can post verses where your god actually kills lots of babies himself and othere where he orders babies slaughtered by bashing their little heads on the rocks
or ordering others to be stoned to death.


Yep.... thats the insane monster god you chirsters worship.



-----------------







What I can't figure out is why you are wasting so much time and energy trying to convince people that something doesn't exist? It would be like me spending all my time trying to convince people that Martians are actually green cheese addicts...either God exists, or you are going insane!
Because if He doesn't exist, then all your effort iw worthless, and if He does exist, then all your work is worthless, either way, your a troubled person with some serious psychological issues. You can't run from God, He will drive you to insanity if you do, seems as if your already there.
 Quoting: Wingedlion/Whiterider 561242

News








We're dropping truth bombs like it's the end of days!