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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 525128
10/13/2008 3:46 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
The point is, they're not "Jews" at all. They're satanic Talmudists.
Liars, theives, blasphemers, and murderers. Not God's Chosen at all. Not even close. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 524939
So .... if you are correct ..... who are the Jews...? |
| Toward The Mark
User ID: 523522
10/13/2008 3:50 PM
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The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....
Period.
Sometimes people mistake the way we talk for what we are thinking.
So, one must live the way one thinks or end up thinking the way one has lived. |
| voice
User ID: 525037
10/13/2008 3:53 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....
Period. Quoting: Toward The Mark
No, it belongs to God.......He only subleases! lol |
| illegalsmile
User ID: 446109
10/13/2008 4:10 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
The recist aparthied state of Israel is a menace to world peace.
No more racist states! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 520952 (OP)
10/13/2008 4:19 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....
Period. Quoting: Toward The Mark
True. |
| Arcaneshift
User ID: 525168
10/13/2008 4:20 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
...Dr. Sand's main argument is that until little more than a century ago, Jews thought of themselves as Jews only because they shared a common religion. At the turn of the 20th century, he said, Zionist Jews challenged this idea and started creating a national history by inventing the idea that Jews existed as a people separate from their religion.
Equally, the modern Zionist idea of Jews being obligated to return from exile to the Promised Land was entirely alien to Judaism, he added...
The Jewish Dr. Sand is correct.
"Gentiles" were always able to convert to the religion and become "Jews."
As Jesus said, "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you travel around on sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves." Matthew 23:15 (NASB) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 513941
A most incitefull study. Well done!! And how sad that Abrahams true seed is still downtrodden in that land by those Ashekanazim gentiles claiming his bloodline but relegating true blood Jews to less than third class citizenship. |
| aaron_o.o 
rarely pure, never simple
User ID: 513816
10/13/2008 4:27 PM
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DATE PLACE EVENT
250 C.E. Canhage Expulsion
224 C.E. Italy Forced Conversion
325 C.E. Jerusalem Expulsion
351 C.E Persia Book Burning
357 C.E. Italy Property Confiscation
379 C.E. Milan Synagogue Burning
415 C.E. Alexandria Expulsion
418 C.E. Minorca Forced Conversion
489 C.E. Antioch Synagogue Burning
506 C.E. Daphne Synagogue Burning
519 C.E. Ravenna Synagogue Burning
554 C.E. Diocese of Clement (France) Expulsion
561 C.E. Diocese of Uzes (France) Expulsion
582 C.E Merovingia Forced Conversion
612 C.E. Visigoth Spain Expulsion
628 C.E. Byzantium Forced Conversion
629 C.E. Merovingia Forced Conversion
633 C.E. Toledo Forced Conversion
638 C.E. Toledo Stake Burnings
642 C.E. Visigothic Empire Expulsion
653 C.E. Toledo Expulsion
681 C.E. Spain Forced Conversion
693 C.E. Toledo Jews Enslaved
722 C.E. Byzantium Judaism Outlawed
855 C.E. Italy Expulsion
876 C.E. Sens Expulsion
897 C.E. Narbonne Land Confiscation
945 C.E. Venice Ban on Sea Travel
1009 C.E. Orleans Massacre
1012 C.E. Rouen, Limoges & Rome Massacre
1012 C.E. Mayence Expulsion
1021 C.E. Rome Jews Burned Alive
1063 C.E. Spain Massacre
1095 C.E. Lorraine Massacre
1096 C.E. Northern France & Germany 1/3 of Jewish Population Massacred
1096 C.E. Hungary Massacre
1096 C.E. Ralisbon Massacre
1099 C.E. Jerusalem Jews Burned Alive
1100 C.E. Kiev Pogrom
1140 C.E. Germany Massacres
1146 C.E. Rhine Valley Massacre
1147 C.E. Wurzburg Massacre
1147 C.E. Belitz (Germany) Jews Burned Alive
1147 C.E. Carenton, Ramenu & Sully (France) Massacres
1171 C.E. Blois Stake Burnings
1181 C.E. France Expulsion
1181 C.E. England Property Confiscation
1188 C.E. London & York Mob Attacks
1190 C.E. Norfolk Jews Burned Alive
1191 C.E. Bray (France) Jews Burned Alive
1195 C.E. France Property Confiscation
1209 C.E. Beziers Massacre
1212 C.E. Spain Rioting and blood bath against the Jews of Toledo.
1215 C.E. Rome Lateran Council of Rome decrees that Jews must wear the "badge of shame" in all Christian countries. Jews are denied all public sector employment, and are burdened with extra taxes.
1215 C.E. Toulouse (France) Mass Arrests
1218 C.E. England Jews Forced to Wear Badges
1231 C.E. Rome Inquisition Established
1236 C.E. France Forced Conversion/Massacre
1239 C.E. London Massacre & Property Confiscation
1240 C.E. Austria Property confiscation. Jews either imprisoned, converted, expelled, or burned.
1240 C.E. France Talmud Confiscated
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes"
- Justice Felix Frankfurter
"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing NO allegiance and acknowledging NO responsibility to the people." - Theodore Roosevelt, 1906
Pythagoras
...never allowed his neophytes to see him during the years of probation, but instructed them from behind a curtain in his cave
- H. P. Blavatsky (Isis Unveiled)
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| aaron_o.o
rarely pure, never simple
User ID: 513816
10/13/2008 4:28 PM
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1240 C.E. England Book Burning
1240 C.E. Spain Forced Conversion
1242 C.E. Paris Talmud Burned
1244 C.E. Oxford Mob Attacks
1255 C.E. England Blood libel in Lincoln results in the burning / torture of many Jews & public hangings.
1261 C.E. Canterbury Mob Attacks
1262 C.E. London Mob Attacks
1264 C.E. London Mob Attacks
1264 C.E. Germany Council of Vienna declares that all Jews must wear a "pointed dunce cap." Thousands murdered.
1267 C.E. Vienna Jews Forced to Wear Horned Hats
1270 C.E. Weissenberg, Magdeburg, Arnstadt, Coblenz, Singzig, and Erfurt Jews Burned Alive
1270 C.E. England The libel of the "counterfeit coins" - all Jewish men, women and children in England imprisoned. Hundreds are hung.
1276 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion
1278 C.E. Genoa (Spain) Mob Attacks
1279 C.E. Hungary & Poland The Council of Offon denies Jews the right to all civic positions. The Jews of Hungary & Poland are forced to wear the "red badge of shame."
1283 C.E. Mayence & Bacharach Mob Attacks
1285 C.E. Munich Jews Burned Alive
1290 C.E. England King Edward I issues an edict banishing all Jews from England. Many drowned.
1291 C.E. France The Jewish refugees from England are promptly expelled from France.
1292 C.E. Italy Forced conversions & expulsion of the Italian Jewish community.
1298 C.E. Germany The libel of the "Desecrated Host" is perpetrated against the Jews of Germany. Approximately 150 Jewish communities undergo forced conversion.
1298 C.E. Franconia, Bavaria & Austria Reindfel's Decree is propagated against the Jews of Franconia and Bavarai. Riots against these Jewish communities, as well as those in Austria, result in the massacre of 100,000 Jews over a six-month period.
1306 C.E. France Expulsion
1308 C.E. Strasbourg Jews Burned Alive
1320 C.E. Toulouse & Perpigon 120 Communities Massacred & Talmud Burned
1321 C.E. Teruel Public Executions
1328 C.E. Estella 5,000 Jews Slaughtered
1348 C.E. France & Spain Jews Burned Alive
1348 C.E. Switzerland Expulsion
1349 C.E. Worms, Strasbourg, Oppenheim, Mayence, Erfurt, Bavaria & Swabia Jews Burned Alive
1349 C.E. Heilbronn (Germany) Expulsion
1349 C.E. Hungary Expulsion
1354 C.E. Castile (Spain) 12,000 Jews Slaughtered
1368 C.E. Toledo 8,000 Jews Slaughtered
1370 C.E. Majorca., Penignon & Barcelona Mob Attack
1377 C.E. Huesca (Spain) Jews Burned Alive
1380 C.E. Paris Mob Attack
1384 C.E. Nordlingen Mass Murder
1388 C.E. Strasbourg Expulsion
1389 C.E. Prague Mass Slaughter & Book Burning
1391 C.E. Castille, Toledo, Madrid, Seville, Cordova, Cuenca & Barcelona Forced Conversions & Mass Murder
1394 C.E. Germany Expulsion
1394 C.E. France Expulsion
1399 C.E. Posen (Poland) Jews Burned Alive
1400 C.E. Prague Stake Burnings
1407 C.E. Cracow Mob Attack
1415 C.E. Rome Talmud Confiscated
1422 C.E. Austria Jews Burned Alive
1422 C.E. Austria Expulsion
1424 C.E. Fribourg & Zurich Expulsion
1426 C.E. Cologne Expulsion
1431 C.E. Southern Germany Jews Burned Alive
1432 C.E. Savory Expulsion
1438 C.E. Mainz Expulsion
1439 C.E. Augsburg Expulsion
1449 C.E. Toledo Public Torture &. Burnings
1456 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion
1453 C.E. Franconia Expulsion
1453 C.E. Breslau Expulsion
1454 C.E. Wurzburg Expulsion
1463 C.E. Cracow Mob Attack
1473 C.E. Andalusia Mob Attack
1480 C.E. Venice Jews Burned Alive
1481 C.E. Seville Stake Burnings
1484 C.E. Cuidad Real, Guadalupe, Saragossa & Teruel Jews Burned Alive
1485 C.E. Vincenza (Italy) Expulsion
1486 C.E. Toledo Jews Burned Alive
1488 C.E. Toledo Stake Burnings
1490 C.E. Toledo Public Executions
1491 C.E. Astorga Public Torture & Execution
1492 C.E. Spain Expulsion
1495 C.E. Lithuania Expulsion
1497 C.E. Portugal Expulsion
1499 C.E. Germany Expulsion
1506 C.E. Lisbon Mob Attack
1510 C.E. Berlin Public Torture & Execution
1514 C.E. Strasbourg Expulsion
1519 C.E. Regensburg Expulsion
1539 C.E. Cracow & Portugal Stake Burnings
1540 C.E. Naples Expulsion
1542 C.E. Bohemia Expulsion
1550 C.E. Genoa Expulsion
1551 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion
1555 C.E. Pesaro Expulsion
1556 C.E. Sokhachev (Poland) Public Torture & Execution
1559 C.E. Austria Expulsion
1561 C.E. Prague Expulsion
1567 C.E. Wurzburg Expulsion
1569 C.E. Papal States Expulsion
1571 C.E. Brandenburg Expulsion
1582 C.E. Netherlands Expulsion
1593 C.E. Brunswick Expulsion
1597 C.E. Cremona, Pavia & Lodi Expulsion
1614 C.E. Frankfort Expulsion
1615 C.E. Worms Expulsion
1619 C.E. Kiev Expulsion
1635 C.E. Vilna Mob Attack
1637 C.E. Cracow Public Torture & Execution
1647 C.E. Lisbon Jews Burned Alive
1648 C.E. Poland 1/3 of Jewry Slaughtered
1649 C.E. Ukraine Expulsion
1649 C.E. Hamburg Expulsion
1652 C.E. Lisbon Stake Burnings
1654 C.E. Little Russia Expulsion
1656 C.E. Lithuania Expulsion
1660 C.E. Seville Jews Burned Alive
1663 C.E Cracow Public Torture &. Execution
1664 C.E. Lemberg Mob Attack
1669 C.E. Oran (North Africa) Expulsion
1670 C.E. Vienna Expulsion
1671 C.E. Minsk Mob Attacks
1681 C.E. Vilna Mob Attacks
1682 C.E. Cracow Mob Attacks
1687 C.E. Posen Mob Attacks
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes"
- Justice Felix Frankfurter
"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing NO allegiance and acknowledging NO responsibility to the people." - Theodore Roosevelt, 1906
Pythagoras
...never allowed his neophytes to see him during the years of probation, but instructed them from behind a curtain in his cave
- H. P. Blavatsky (Isis Unveiled)
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| aaron_o.o
rarely pure, never simple
User ID: 513816
10/13/2008 4:29 PM
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1712 C.E. Sandomir Expulsion
1727 C.E. Russia Expulsion
1738 C.E. Wurtemburg Expulsion
1740 C.E. Liule Russia Expulsion
1744 C.E Bohemia Expulsion
1744 C.E. Livonia Expulsion
1745 C.E. Moravia Expulsion
1753 C.E. Kovad (Lithuania) Expulsion
1757 C.E. Kamenetz Talmud Burning
1761 C.E. Bordeaux Expulsion
1768 C.E. Kiev 3,000 Jews Slaughtered
1772 C.E. Russia Expulsion
1775 C.E. Warsaw Expulsion
1789 C.E. Alsace Expulsion
1801 C.E. Bucharest Mob Attack
1804 C.E. Russian Villages Expulsion
1808 C.E. Russian Countryside Expulsion
1815 C.E. Lubeck & Bremen Expulsion
1820 C.E. Bremes Expulsion
1843 C.E. Austria & Prussia Expulsion
1850 C.E. New York City 500 People, Led by Police, Attacked & Wrecked Jewish Synagogue
1862 C.E. Area under General Grant's Jurisdiction in the United States Expulsion
1866 C.E Galatz (Romania) Expulsion
1871 C.E. Odena Mob Attack
1887 C.E. Slovakia Mob Attacks
1897 C.E. Kantakuzenka (Russia) Mob Attacks
1898 C.E. Rennes (France) Mob Attack
1899 C.E. Nicholayev Mob Attack
1900 C.E. Konitz (Prussia) Mob Attack
1902 C.E. Poland Widespread Pogroms
1904 C.E. Manchuria, Kiev & Volhynia Widespread Pogroms
1905 C.E. Zhitomir (Yolhynia) Mob Attacks
1919 C.E Bavaria Expulsion
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes"
- Justice Felix Frankfurter
"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing NO allegiance and acknowledging NO responsibility to the people." - Theodore Roosevelt, 1906
Pythagoras
...never allowed his neophytes to see him during the years of probation, but instructed them from behind a curtain in his cave
- H. P. Blavatsky (Isis Unveiled)
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.myspace.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 520952 (OP)
10/13/2008 4:30 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
Thanks for the bump, Aaron.
Please continue.... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 520952 (OP)
10/13/2008 5:13 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
Watch it! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 513941
10/13/2008 5:27 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
God promised the chosen people...
Deu 28:15 "But it shall come about, if you do not obey the LORD your God, to observe to do all His commandments and His statutes with which I charge you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:
Deu 28:16 "Cursed {shall} you {be} in the city, and cursed {shall} you {be} in the country.
Deu 28:17 "Cursed {shall be} your basket and your kneading bowl.
Deu 28:18 "Cursed {shall be} the offspring of your body and the produce of your ground, the increase of your herd and the young of your flock.
Deu 28:19 "Cursed {shall} you {be} when you come in, and cursed {shall} you {be} when you go out.
Deu 28:20 "The LORD will send upon you curses, confusion, and rebuke, in all you undertake to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, on account of the evil of your deeds, because you have forsaken Me.
Deu 28:21 "The LORD will make the pestilence cling to you until He has consumed you from the land where you are entering to possess it.
Deu 28:22 "The LORD will smite you with consumption and with fever and with inflammation and with fiery heat and with the sword and with blight and with mildew, and they will pursue you until you perish.
Deu 28:23 "The heaven which is over your head shall be bronze, and the earth which is under you, iron.
Deu 28:24 "The LORD will make the rain of your land powder and dust; from heaven it shall come down on you until you are destroyed.
Deu 28:25 "The LORD shall cause you to be defeated before your enemies; you will go out one way against them, but you will flee seven ways before them, and you will be {an example of} terror to all the kingdoms of the earth.
Deu 28:26 "Your carcasses will be food to all birds of the sky and to the beasts of the earth, and there will be no one to frighten {them} away.
*NASB |
| voice
User ID: 525037
10/13/2008 5:30 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
How does God choose one person over another? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 520952 (OP)
10/13/2008 5:37 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
How does God choose one person over another? Quoting: voice 525037
It's not as though He choose one person as more favourable than others. He chooses certain people through whom He will convey His message....but that message is to all.
This thing regarding the Jews....He chose the Jews, and that's it. He has the right to choose whoever He pleases.
If He chose the Arabs, or the Chinese, or the Indians, the hatred would still be the same against that people, simply because man rejects God.
Now, I am not a Jew. I am English. But I believe the bible. And I am humble enough, at least, to recognize that GOD has chosen a certain people through whom He will bring HIS message of salvation.
"Salvation is of the Jews."
- Jesus
It's not as though the Jews are regarded more. Whether Jew or Gentile....what matters is that people receive Him as the Son of God, and the only Saviour. Those who reject Him, whether Jew or Gentile, are ultimately in the same boat.
But He chose the Jews, and sealed his promise with them, until the end of time, to be a witness to Him....and so He will gather them....though they are as yet unfaithful...and that gathering, and the subsequent opposition to that....He will use to fulfil His purpose for the world.
For the benefit of the WHOLE world.
I believe Him.  |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 520952 (OP)
10/13/2008 5:52 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
How does God choose one person over another?
It's not as though He choose one person as more favourable than others. He chooses certain people through whom He will convey His message....but that message is to all.
This thing regarding the Jews....He chose the Jews, and that's it. He has the right to choose whoever He pleases.
If He chose the Arabs, or the Chinese, or the Indians, the hatred would still be the same against that people, simply because man rejects God.
Now, I am not a Jew. I am English. But I believe the bible. And I am humble enough, at least, to recognize that GOD has chosen a certain people through whom He will bring HIS message of salvation.
"Salvation is of the Jews."
- Jesus
It's not as though the Jews are regarded more. Whether Jew or Gentile....what matters is that people receive Him as the Son of God, and the only Saviour. Those who reject Him, whether Jew or Gentile, are ultimately in the same boat.
But He chose the Jews, and sealed his promise with them, until the end of time, to be a witness to Him....and so He will gather them....though they are as yet unfaithful...and that gathering, and the subsequent opposition to that....He will use to fulfil His purpose for the world.
For the benefit of the WHOLE world.
I believe Him.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 513941
10/13/2008 5:54 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
Deu 28:15 "But it shall come about, if you do not obey the LORD your God, to observe to do all His commandments and His statutes with which I charge you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:
A few more verses of God's promised curses to the chosen people if they disobeyed:
Deu 28:27 "The LORD will smite you with the boils of Egypt and with tumors and with the scab and with the itch, from which you cannot be healed.
Deu 28:28 "The LORD will smite you with madness and with blindness and with bewilderment of heart;
Deu 28:29 and you will grope at noon, as the blind man gropes in darkness, and you will not prosper in your ways; but you shall only be oppressed and robbed continually, with none to save you.
Deu 28:30 "You shall betroth a wife, but another man will violate her; you shall build a house, but you will not live in it; you shall plant a vineyard, but you will not use its fruit.
Deu 28:31 "Your ox shall be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will not eat of it; your donkey shall be torn away from you, and will not be restored to you; your sheep shall be given to your enemies, and you will have none to save you.
Deu 28:32 "Your sons and your daughters shall be given to another people, while your eyes look on and yearn for them continually; but there will be nothing you can do.
Deu 28:33 "A people whom you do not know shall eat up the produce of your ground and all your labors, and you will never be anything but oppressed and crushed continually.
Deu 28:34 "You shall be driven mad by the sight of what you see.
Deu 28:35 "The LORD will strike you on the knees and legs with sore boils, from which you cannot be healed, from the sole of your foot to the crown of your head.
Deu 28:36 "The LORD will bring you and your king, whom you set over you, to a nation which neither you nor your fathers have known, and there you shall serve other gods, wood and stone.
Deu 28:37 "You shall become a horror, a proverb, and a taunt among all the people where the LORD drives you.
Deu 28:38 "You shall bring out much seed to the field but you will gather in little, for the locust will consume it.
Deu 28:39 "You shall plant and cultivate vineyards, but you will neither drink of the wine nor gather {the grapes,} for the worm will devour them.
Deu 28:40 "You shall have olive trees throughout your territory but you will not anoint yourself with the oil, for your olives will drop off.
Deu 28:41 "You shall have sons and daughters but they will not be yours, for they will go into captivity.
Deu 28:42 "The cricket shall possess all your trees and the produce of your ground.
Deu 28:43 "The alien who is among you shall rise above you higher and higher, but you will go down lower and lower.
Deu 28:44 "He shall lend to you, but you will not lend to him; he shall be the head, and you will be the tail.
Deu 28:45 "So all these curses shall come on you and pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you would not obey the LORD your God by keeping His commandments and His statutes which He commanded you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 520952 (OP)
10/13/2008 5:56 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
Deu 28:15 "But it shall come about, if you do not obey the LORD your God, to observe to do all His commandments and His statutes with which I charge you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:
A few more verses of God's promised curses to the chosen people if they disobeyed:
Deu 28:27 "The LORD will smite you with the boils of Egypt and with tumors and with the scab and with the itch, from which you cannot be healed.
Deu 28:28 "The LORD will smite you with madness and with blindness and with bewilderment of heart;
Deu 28:29 and you will grope at noon, as the blind man gropes in darkness, and you will not prosper in your ways; but you shall only be oppressed and robbed continually, with none to save you.
Deu 28:30 "You shall betroth a wife, but another man will violate her; you shall build a house, but you will not live in it; you shall plant a vineyard, but you will not use its fruit.
Deu 28:31 "Your ox shall be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will not eat of it; your donkey shall be torn away from you, and will not be restored to you; your sheep shall be given to your enemies, and you will have none to save you.
Deu 28:32 "Your sons and your daughters shall be given to another people, while your eyes look on and yearn for them continually; but there will be nothing you can do.
Deu 28:33 "A people whom you do not know shall eat up the produce of your ground and all your labors, and you will never be anything but oppressed and crushed continually.
Deu 28:34 "You shall be driven mad by the sight of what you see.
Deu 28:35 "The LORD will strike you on the knees and legs with sore boils, from which you cannot be healed, from the sole of your foot to the crown of your head.
Deu 28:36 "The LORD will bring you and your king, whom you set over you, to a nation which neither you nor your fathers have known, and there you shall serve other gods, wood and stone.
Deu 28:37 "You shall become a horror, a proverb, and a taunt among all the people where the LORD drives you.
Deu 28:38 "You shall bring out much seed to the field but you will gather in little, for the locust will consume it.
Deu 28:39 "You shall plant and cultivate vineyards, but you will neither drink of the wine nor gather {the grapes,} for the worm will devour them.
Deu 28:40 "You shall have olive trees throughout your territory but you will not anoint yourself with the oil, for your olives will drop off.
Deu 28:41 "You shall have sons and daughters but they will not be yours, for they will go into captivity.
Deu 28:42 "The cricket shall possess all your trees and the produce of your ground.
Deu 28:43 "The alien who is among you shall rise above you higher and higher, but you will go down lower and lower.
Deu 28:44 "He shall lend to you, but you will not lend to him; he shall be the head, and you will be the tail.
Deu 28:45 "So all these curses shall come on you and pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you would not obey the LORD your God by keeping His commandments and His statutes which He commanded you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 513941
Still not taking into account Revelation, I see, 941 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 525128
10/13/2008 5:58 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
The recist aparthied state of Israel is a menace to world peace.
No more racist states! Quoting: illegalsmile 446109
You mean like Texas? |
| voice
User ID: 525037
10/13/2008 6:03 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
How does God choose one person over another?
It's not as though He choose one person as more favourable than others. He chooses certain people through whom He will convey His message....but that message is to all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 520952
Thankyou OP, for your rather lengthy and detailed answer: However, the Mormons feel the same way........that God chooses them and instructs them through their "chosen" Prophet!
When will people learn that God needs nobody to speak for Him? God can speak directly to you, anytime, anywhere! When? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 520952 (OP)
10/13/2008 6:12 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
How does God choose one person over another?
It's not as though He choose one person as more favourable than others. He chooses certain people through whom He will convey His message....but that message is to all.
Thankyou OP, for your rather lengthy and detailed answer: However, the Mormons feel the same way........that God chooses them and instructs them through their "chosen" Prophet!
When will people learn that God needs nobody to speak for Him? God can speak directly to you, anytime, anywhere! When? Quoting: voice 525037
Yes. He has spoken to me directly, though only very occasionally.
But He has also given us His written record. The Bible.
That speaks to us as much, and is as valid, as His spoken word in our lives.
Remember:
"The Spirit and the Word agree."
There is therefore no conflict in the matter, for me. God has given us His revealed Word....which is coming true now, for all to see. |
| voice
User ID: 525037
10/13/2008 6:18 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
But He has also given us His written record. The Bible.
That speaks to us as much, and is as valid, as His spoken word in our lives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 520952
I'm sorry OP, but I cannot recommend the Bible as the "written word" of God! There are too many obvious mistakes.......
However, if you want to know Satan's blueprints for you, then I do recommend everyone read it! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 520952 (OP)
10/13/2008 6:25 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
But He has also given us His written record. The Bible.
That speaks to us as much, and is as valid, as His spoken word in our lives.
I'm sorry OP, but I cannot recommend the Bible as the "written word" of God! There are too many obvious mistakes.......
However, if you want to know Satan's blueprints for you, then I do recommend everyone read it! Quoting: voice 525037
I'm not asking you to recommend the bible to me. The recommendation comes from God Himself, where He speaks in the Bible.
The Bible will be proved, ultimately, to be true.
Not Nostradamus, or the Zetas, or the aliens, or the new-age 'channellers'.....but the Bible.
Yes....the Bible.
Keep your eyes on that. Learn it, and what it says....then come to me at 'the end of the day', and tell me it isn't so....
We have a date....no? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 513941
10/13/2008 6:27 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
How does God choose one person over another?
It's not as though He choose one person as more favourable than others. He chooses certain people through whom He will convey His message....but that message is to all.
This thing regarding the Jews....He chose the Jews, and that's it. He has the right to choose whoever He pleases.
If He chose the Arabs, or the Chinese, or the Indians, the hatred would still be the same against that people, simply because man rejects God.
Now, I am not a Jew. I am English. But I believe the bible. And I am humble enough, at least, to recognize that GOD has chosen a certain people through whom He will bring HIS message of salvation.
"Salvation is of the Jews."
- Jesus
It's not as though the Jews are regarded more. Whether Jew or Gentile....what matters is that people receive Him as the Son of God, and the only Saviour. Those who reject Him, whether Jew or Gentile, are ultimately in the same boat.
But He chose the Jews, and sealed his promise with them, until the end of time, to be a witness to Him....and so He will gather them....though they are as yet unfaithful...and that gathering, and the subsequent opposition to that....He will use to fulfil His purpose for the world.
For the benefit of the WHOLE world.
I believe Him.
Today's Zionist anti-Christian "Jews" are covered here:
"Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also." 1 John 2:22-23 (NASB)
Gentile and Jew are in the same boat now...
Rom 3:9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin;
Rom 3:10 as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;
Rom 3:11 THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;
Rom 3:12 ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE."
Rom 3:13 "THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE, WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING," "THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS";
Rom 3:14 "WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS";
Rom 3:15 "THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD,
Rom 3:16 DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS,
Rom 3:17 AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN."
Rom 3:18 "THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD BEFORE THEIR EYES."
We all have the same hope:
"Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." Romans 8:1 (NASB)
I have read Revelation. |
| voice
User ID: 525037
10/13/2008 6:30 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
The Bible
Keep your eyes on that. Learn it, and what it says....then come to me at 'the end of the day', and tell me it isn't so....
We have a date....no? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 520952
I have studied this book called Bible extensively, so Yes, we have a date! :) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 520952 (OP)
10/13/2008 6:33 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
How does God choose one person over another?
It's not as though He choose one person as more favourable than others. He chooses certain people through whom He will convey His message....but that message is to all.
This thing regarding the Jews....He chose the Jews, and that's it. He has the right to choose whoever He pleases.
If He chose the Arabs, or the Chinese, or the Indians, the hatred would still be the same against that people, simply because man rejects God.
Now, I am not a Jew. I am English. But I believe the bible. And I am humble enough, at least, to recognize that GOD has chosen a certain people through whom He will bring HIS message of salvation.
"Salvation is of the Jews."
- Jesus
It's not as though the Jews are regarded more. Whether Jew or Gentile....what matters is that people receive Him as the Son of God, and the only Saviour. Those who reject Him, whether Jew or Gentile, are ultimately in the same boat.
But He chose the Jews, and sealed his promise with them, until the end of time, to be a witness to Him....and so He will gather them....though they are as yet unfaithful...and that gathering, and the subsequent opposition to that....He will use to fulfil His purpose for the world.
For the benefit of the WHOLE world.
I believe Him.
Today's Zionist anti-Christian "Jews" are covered here:
"Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also." 1 John 2:22-23 (NASB)
Gentile and Jew are in the same boat now...
Rom 3:9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin;
Rom 3:10 as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;
Rom 3:11 THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;
Rom 3:12 ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE."
Rom 3:13 "THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE, WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING," "THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS";
Rom 3:14 "WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS";
Rom 3:15 "THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD,
Rom 3:16 DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS,
Rom 3:17 AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN."
Rom 3:18 "THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD BEFORE THEIR EYES."
We all have the same hope:
"Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." Romans 8:1 (NASB)
I have read Revelation.
And with which of those Scriptures did I disagree?
I don't contradict Scripture.
But I think maybe you confuse the personal message of Scripture....to us as individuals.....with His eternal and unchanging Word....which will be fulfilled, regardless.
And that Word includes Israel (and His fighting for her)...in the last days, against her (and His) Godless enemies.
We can't just apply Scripture to ourselves personally. Not all of it, anyway....when He so clearly states what He will do regarding His affairs in the world.
Do you understand this? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 513941
10/13/2008 6:39 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
But He has also given us His written record. The Bible.
That speaks to us as much, and is as valid, as His spoken word in our lives.
I'm sorry OP, but I cannot recommend the Bible as the "written word" of God! There are too many obvious mistakes.......
However, if you want to know Satan's blueprints for you, then I do recommend everyone read it! Quoting: voice 525037
There are really only mistakes in understanding and misinterpretations, such as the OP's. |
| Toward The Mark
User ID: 523522
10/13/2008 6:42 PM
| | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
I'm sorry OP, but I cannot recommend the Bible as the "written word" of God! There are too many obvious mistakes.......
However, if you want to know Satan's blueprints for you, then I do recommend everyone read it! Quoting: voice 525037
Horse manure.
Sometimes people mistake the way we talk for what we are thinking.
So, one must live the way one thinks or end up thinking the way one has lived. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 520952 (OP)
10/13/2008 6:46 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
I'm sorry OP, but I cannot recommend the Bible as the "written word" of God! There are too many obvious mistakes.......
However, if you want to know Satan's blueprints for you, then I do recommend everyone read it!
Horse manure. Quoting: Toward The Mark
That it is. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 513941
10/13/2008 6:47 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
I'm sorry OP, but I cannot recommend the Bible as the "written word" of God! There are too many obvious mistakes.......
However, if you want to know Satan's blueprints for you, then I do recommend everyone read it!
Horse manure. Quoting: Toward The Mark
Well said. |
| voice
User ID: 525037
10/13/2008 6:49 PM | | Re: The land of Israel belongs to the Jews.....video inside.. | Quote |
I'm sorry OP, but I cannot recommend the Bible as the "written word" of God! There are too many obvious mistakes.......
However, if you want to know Satan's blueprints for you, then I do recommend everyone read it!
Horse manure. Quoting: Toward The Mark
Fine 'Toward the Mark', then don't read it! |
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