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Reports quote information that certified copies of a Kenyan Birth
Certificate (BC) for Obama were sent from Kenya, and have been received by
three separate individuals.
And that these documents are certified, with an embossed seal, and display
the name of the hospital where Obama was born, as well as witness
signatures.


Reportedly this BC reflects information filed Oct. 9 by Philip Berg.

See item #18 on this docket, page 10, the relevant language of which, underlined in red, is captured here in a screen shot:

Barack Hussein Obama II

By Judah Benjamin,

It has been asserted by a number of sources, including Andy Martin, that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in Hawaii.

Philip Berg's Latest Motion to the Court is more explicit since it gives an exact Place of Birth. I must assume that Berg did not simply pluck the Location out of thin air, Mombasa has more than one Hospital, though Coast
Provincial General was the best in 1961.

British Birth Certificates have a Standard Format which has been more or
less the same since 1837 and they can only be challenged in a British Court.
Kenyan Law is explicit and can only be challenged in a Kenyan Court.
Indonesian Law is explicit and can only be challenged in an Indonesian
Court. Be clear, if Obama was born in Kenya this is not simply a matter for
the US Courts, or US Law.
If he was born in Kenya, and his parents were Legally Married [which on the
Preponderance of Evidence they were, his father's first "Marriage" being a
Tribal, or Village, Marriage, which was not Legally Recognized] due to the
age of his mother he would NOT have been a US Citizen
. The Immigration and
Nationality Act 1952, 8 U.S.C. 1401. Sec. 301 (g) [Effective November 14,
1986] does not apply, nor does Title III, Immigration and Nationality Act
Section 309. [8 U.S.C. 1409].
Unless he has taken the Oath of Allegiance as a Naturalized Citizen since he
was 18 years old, and if he was born in Mombasa, Kenya, Barack Hussein Obama
II would not be a US Citizen, period. The issue of whether or not he was
Natural Born under Article II of the Constitution of the United States would
cease to matter and he would need to be Deported as an Illegal Alien.
Impeachment as a Senator would seem not to be necessary since he would never
Legally have been one, but Diane Feinstein and the members of the Senate
Ethics and Rules Committee would be liable to Impeachment. So would their
opposite numbers in the Illinois Senate and the appropriate officials of the
Illinois State Supreme Court and Bar, so far as I can see.
If Senator Barack Hussein Obama II was born in The Coast Provincial General
Hospital at Mombasa in Kenya at 7.24 PM on August 4th 1961, or at any other
time, he is not a Natural Born Citizen of these United States and he never
was. Philip J Berg, Esq, is correct, under the Nationality Act of 1940, as
Revised June 1952 and in accord with United States of America vs
Cervantes-Nava 281 F 3d 501 (2002) and Drozd vs INS, 155 F 3d 81, 85-88 (2d
Circuit 1998) Senator Barack Hussein Obama II would not ever have been a
Legal US Citizen at all, unless he was Naturalized.

If he was born in The Coast Provincial General Hospital at Mombasa in Kenya any Certificate, or Certification of Live Birth, issued for him by the Stateof Hawaii is a Fraudulent and Illegal Document. At Birth he would have been
a UK and Colonies Citizen and in accord with the Kenyan Constitution he would have become a Kenyan Citizen in December 1963. He would not have been a US Citizen.


Alternatively, his UK and Colonies Birth Certificate issued in Mombasa in August 1961 could be a Fraudulent and Illegal Document. The two BCs would need to be compared.


By this I mean the Original Vault Copy of the Hawaiian Birth Certificate and not the Amended, Post Adoption, Copy, Legally available to the Senator, assuming he was, as indicated by the Preponderance of Evidence, Adopted by Lolo Soetoro.

This case might also need to go through the UK and Kenyan Courts and becomes a Matter of International Law and Controversy.

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The last I checked the Obama/DNC defendants were required to submit the "vault" copies to the Federal Court in Pennsylvania by the 15th. Any news on the submissions (or lack thereof)?

BTW, I am a Libertarian and am of the opinion that both main candidates equally suck. Although, I am concerned this could become a Constitutional crisis and significantly impact the election if not resolved in very short order
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Looking to me like the Kenya Birth Certificate is a bullshit story...big thread from PACNWGUY where a lot was brought out about it. Scan past the asshole trolls and you'll see it develop.

Berg still has his case ongoing, might hear something from that soon. I still think Obama should allow the state of Hawaii to release his long form BC, or get it and release it himself, end this thing. That copy of a COLB is not enough alone to qualify him IMO but there is a federal suit over that. He also must have had at one time and at least used a prior certifiacte for college admissions etc etc....which he also refuses to release....so the only question remains is why?

I am hearing some rumours that there is some information that he feels will embarass him, maybe his parents weren't married, who knows.

Here is what a real long form Certificate of Live birth from the state of Hawaii from 1963 would look like, within a couple of years so likely his is very similar. This is also a certified copy issued in 1998 and if you notice the security paper is the same, so likely any copy he would have issued would look very simlar to this...it also carries far more information than the short form, which is all anyone has ever seen.

The Obama document is also a "Certification of Live birth"...while this is a "Certificate Of Live Birth" both are copies of documents issued around the same time. So what the differences or requirments to get either may be different, not sure and don't have an answer for that.

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it was set up back in 1998
so Hillerie could rescue the Dem party
too late for her bag of scandals to be
dragged out under the laser of MSM

NEVER underestimate the klintons


barky and hilerie are BOTH out of the

Chicago club dominated still by Leo Strauss
and whos protege's have been Saul Alinsky and
Zibegnew Brezinski

Alinsky was hilleries mentor
They were the TEAM that worked on the
Nixon Impeachment
when hillerie was the lawyer for the
Black Panthers
same time Bill Ayers was making molotov cocktails
and chemical flame throwers

Ferstehen?

watch 'bil&hil' play the role now so it deflects
SUSPICION when Barky gets exposed by the media
which has so scrupulously protected poor straw man
barky for nearly two years while in actuality covering
hillerie from that laser light of public scrutiny
so she could step along behind the curtain in the
twilight intil time to take center stage again

watch anytime near Oct 21st !

lol.



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Where is the INS when you need them?
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Wait, just hold the phone here for a sec,


Barack Hussein Obama is black????

Get out????


Really???


Wow!!!!

Hey what if he was born in Panama City?????
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Looking to me like the Kenya Birth Certificate is a bullshit story...big thread from PACNWGUY where a lot was brought out about it. Scan past the asshole trolls and you'll see it develop.

Berg still has his case ongoing, might hear something from that soon. I still think Obama should allow the state of Hawaii to release his long form BC, or get it and release it himself, end this thing. That copy of a COLB is not enough alone to qualify him IMO but there is a federal suit over that. He also must have had at one time and at least used a prior certifiacte for college admissions etc etc....which he also refuses to release....so the only question remains is why?

I am hearing some rumours that there is some information that he feels will embarass him, maybe his parents weren't married, who knows.

Here is what a real long form Certificate of Live birth from the state of Hawaii from 1963 would look like, within a couple of years so likely his is very similar. This is also a certified copy issued in 1998 and if you notice the security paper is the same, so likely any copy he would have issued would look very simlar to this...it also carries far more information than the short form, which is all anyone has ever seen.

The Obama document is also a "Certification of Live birth"...while this is a "Certificate Of Live Birth" both are copies of documents issued around the same time. So what the differences or requirments to get either may be different, not sure and don't have an answer for that.

[link to snarkybytes.com]
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Thanks SHR for the info. The only real question is why are they not providing the documents? If his parents were not married that seems pretty trivial in this day and age. An admission like that (if done correctly) could even be a plus for his campaign. This entire fiasco could be ended by simply providing the documents to the Court for review. Why the delay and why has a fellow Democrat brought this suit against him unless there is some substance somewhere? And what’s up with him having five names as listed on the law suit? I guess in time we will know.
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heh heh heh:




New Revelations on Obama's Birth Certificate



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From: Bigone5555J
Added: August 05, 2008


It appears that Maya Kassandra Soetoro was the original name on the Certificate which Obama claims is his Birth Certificate.


Please sign the petition:

//www.thepetitionsite.com/1/prod...

//web.israelinsider.com/Articles...
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Bigone5555J (12 hours ago)

You are the racist. When we you ever a slave? When did I own slaves? Obama is decended from both slave owners and slave traders. That is a fact. Obama has refused to show his birth records in Court. Why is that? What is he hiding? We have already had 6 black presidents. It is Obama's character, and his friendship and support of terrorists, and his policies that we reject. It is only racists, like yourself, that are judging him by his color.

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Bigone5555J (23 hours ago)


The MSM is controlled by the CFR. They are all in the tank for Obama. The Birth Certificate issue is real.
watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs


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I am really REALLY Confident that his current employers, (The US Gov.) did an extensive background check on him when he got hired (voted) in.

He already works for the Gov. for Pete's sake. Technically, in a democracy, and I use that term loosely, the people are the Gov. Obama is currently employed by We, The People!

To little to late.

And frankly, I could care less!!! He's an American right now!

And he is going to be a great leader for our Country!!



After the election in 2000, we who did not vote for him were just told to watch and wait. That we will see the right choice was made. Guess what, they were WRONG!! Approval ratings lower then Nixon's!


All you Rebubbies have to do is wait and see. If in 4 years, We as a people are not in a better place, then We, as a People, will vote him out.

hat is the way it is supposed to work, Right?!?!?!?!?!
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Looking to me like the Kenya Birth Certificate is a bullshit story...big thread from PACNWGUY where a lot was brought out about it. Scan past the asshole trolls and you'll see it develop.

Berg still has his case ongoing, might hear something from that soon. I still think Obama should allow the state of Hawaii to release his long form BC, or get it and release it himself, end this thing. That copy of a COLB is not enough alone to qualify him IMO but there is a federal suit over that. He also must have had at one time and at least used a prior certifiacte for college admissions etc etc....which he also refuses to release....so the only question remains is why?

I am hearing some rumours that there is some information that he feels will embarass him, maybe his parents weren't married, who knows.

Here is what a real long form Certificate of Live birth from the state of Hawaii from 1963 would look like, within a couple of years so likely his is very similar. This is also a certified copy issued in 1998 and if you notice the security paper is the same, so likely any copy he would have issued would look very simlar to this...it also carries far more information than the short form, which is all anyone has ever seen.

The Obama document is also a "Certification of Live birth"...while this is a "Certificate Of Live Birth" both are copies of documents issued around the same time. So what the differences or requirments to get either may be different, not sure and don't have an answer for that.

[link to snarkybytes.com]



Thanks SHR for the info. The only real question is why are they not providing the documents? If his parents were not married that seems pretty trivial in this day and age. An admission like that (if done correctly) could even be a plus for his campaign. This entire fiasco could be ended by simply providing the documents to the Court for review. Why the delay and why has a fellow Democrat brought this suit against him unless there is some substance somewhere? And what’s up with him having five names as listed on the law suit? I guess in time we will know.
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I am just specualting on the not married thing, and yes I don't think it would be a big deal at all, hiding it more of an issue.....especially now.
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No matter the propaganda, McCain does not technically qualify by virtue of the fact of actual law...missed it by a year or so...so he's actually not stupid enough to call the kettle black (pun).
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I am really REALLY Confident that his current employers, (The US Gov.) did an extensive background check on him when he got hired (voted) in.

He already works for the Gov. for Pete's sake. Technically, in a democracy, and I use that term loosely, the people are the Gov. Obama is currently employed by We, The People!

To little to late.

And frankly, I could care less!!! He's an American right now!

And he is going to be a great leader for our Country!!



After the election in 2000, we who did not vote for him were just told to watch and wait. That we will see the right choice was made. Guess what, they were WRONG!! Approval ratings lower then Nixon's!


All you Rebubbies have to do is wait and see. If in 4 years, We as a people are not in a better place, then We, as a People, will vote him out.

hat is the way it is supposed to work, Right?!?!?!?!?!
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Boy you have a lot more faith in those goofballs then I do then. Also we are not technically a Democracy now or ever have been at any point in history. We are a Democratic Republic and have been since this country;s inception. But you get on with with well informed self now and you're I could care less...he's an American now...lol...ummm what?...actually if what they allege is true? he wouldn't be...and some people still do care about what the constitution says about who can be president or who cannot be...so you'll have to find someone else to play president with if the Federal court rules he isn't eligible.
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Expert: Obama Birth Certificate "Probable Forgery"




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If he has it, why hasn't he submitted it? But the main problem is that Obama is a Marxist who supports anti-U.S. Marxists like Odinga. There is PROOF that Obama used his elected office—and taxpayers dollars—to support Kenyas Raila Odinga, self touted as Your Agent for Change, a violent anti-American thug who made a pact with the Muslims to institute sharia (Islamic law). Odingas followers killed 750 people and burned a Christian church with 50 people, many of them children, inside.



OWNER OF THE PAGE:


From: LethalKillingMachine
Added: August 16, 2008

You know, guys, in Israel they've got their teeth into this story about Obama's fake birth certificate and they're not letting go. This is a story you simply don't see anywhere in the American news media. So credit where credit is due:

//web.israelinsider.com/Articles...


Looks like the neo-Zionists weren't impressed with all that bowing and scraping Obama did when he toured Israel last week. Obama, mah brutha, you ain't getting the neo-Zionist concession, and that spells trouble for your black ass, homes.
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Wait, just hold the phone here for a sec,


Barack Hussein Obama is black????

Get out????


Really???


Wow!!!!

Hey what if he was born in Panama City?????
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OMG! Obama's black!!! I was totally going to vote for him until I read your post. There's no way I can vote for a black guy!
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You guys are sad.

Don't be afraid of folks darker than you.
It's okay.
They are still human
And AMERICAN.

Just because he is a bit darker that John McCain,
He isn't a citizen?

Do you think the RNC,
with all their illustrious geniuses,
who's machine has driven this country to this prosperity
we are all enjoying,
would miss this?

If he was a citizen of Kenya
it would have made front page news.

He may be darker than McCain,
But he is still American.

I know it's hard to accept.......
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No matter the propaganda, McCain does not technically qualify by virtue of the fact of actual law...missed it by a year or so...so he's actually not stupid enough to call the kettle black (pun).
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Actually it would have taken several years to sort out the fine constitutional points of that since he was born on an American Military (Naval) instillation with 2 US citizens as parents, so rather than do that the Senate issued and passed a resolution S. Res. 511 Apr 30, 2008: This bill passed in the Senate by Unanimous Consent. A record of each representative's position was not kept. That John McCain is indeed a Natural born US citizen and eligable to run for president....he went through a similar and if not more detailed process than Obama has...

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Obama Slips on TV: "My Muslim faith."


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Do you think the RNC,
with all their illustrious geniuses,
who's machine has driven this country to this prosperity
we are all enjoying,
would miss this?
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No, I don't think they would miss this. Point is, I don't think they care. Doesn't anybody remember that the night before Hillary bowed out, they had that "secret meeting" in VA. Funny, just so happened to be the same time that the Bilderberg meeting took place.

You don't think that TPTB know what they're doing? They've fooled you all into believing that either candidate will actually bring change. Everyone is so wrapped up in fighting over such meaningless stuff, that no one is paying attention what they're doing.

Doesn't matter which guy gets elected...the plan still remains the same. They all have ties to CFR!
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give u a possible.........obobma is elected and starting to thing lined up to be the prez....along comes a federal judge who says sorry u failed to meet the requirements of a being "natural born american"....u cannot occupy the office...now what....mccain gets it or what....take a step further..he sworn in and assumes the office and along comes a federal judge...who says...you failed the requirement of being a "natural born american"..obobma will have to be removed office ...in both instances we have a constitutional crisis created by the DNC and obobma...the ensuing shit storm from that act...will polarize groups of people for years....i am beginning to see it now...and some of these will cannot get that fact thru their thick skulls he has to be a "natural born american"...born in the usa or a protectorate or territory of the united states....if this story becomes true....it will a sad day indeed ..to the aspirations of many americans dashed because this greed for power and corruption of power....no matter what their color or creed..
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You guys are sad.

Don't be afraid of folks darker than you.
It's okay.
They are still human
And AMERICAN.

Just because he is a bit darker that John McCain,
He isn't a citizen?

Do you think the RNC,
with all their illustrious geniuses,
who's machine has driven this country to this prosperity
we are all enjoying,
would miss this?

If he was a citizen of Kenya
it would have made front page news.

He may be darker than McCain,
But he is still American.

I know it's hard to accept.......
 Quoting: Ikaika

Seriously that Black arguement is sad...no one cares. The only ones who keep bringing it up are you desperate to ignore any information Obamatrons....how about a comment an my reply showing a Certifiacate of Live birth vs Obama's Certification of live birth from the same era?...why are they so different? what if any different requirements are there? why won't Obama release any more details than a short form COLB that was issued to him in 2007? the re-issue date on the copy I posted is only 8 years prior and is a completely different document in form and in name, why is that?
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Questions!

So, let's suppose there is an actual evidence pointing that Obama is a non-citizen since he was born in Kenya and not in Hawaii as he'd claimed. The US and the world are shocked by the evidence

How would his supporters react to the revelation? Would they become greatly betrayed and lied to?
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I realize this is a CT site, but this is so ridiculious and sad.

I'm not biracial, but I was raised by a single mother back in the late 60's, when "people didn't get divorced." You would be amazed at the prejudice I confronted just because I didn't have a dad.

It's amazing that a child of a single mother has the ability to rise to the level of running for president, and it all comes back to his father that left the family when he was quite young.

I had a friend in college whose father was a republican representative. When he met me and we had spent time together he stated "you are the smartest friend my son has." When he found out that I was raised by a single mother, he didn't want to have anything to do with me.

It's not my fault that my parents got divorced. But it was the right decision for my mother to make.
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give u a possible.........obobma is elected and starting to thing lined up to be the prez....along comes a federal judge who says sorry u failed to meet the requirements of a being "natural born american"....u cannot occupy the office...now what....mccain gets it or what....take a step further..he sworn in and assumes the office and along comes a federal judge...who says...you failed the requirement of being a "natural born american"..obobma will have to be removed office ...in both instances we have a constitutional crisis created by the DNC and obobma...the ensuing shit storm from that act...will polarize groups of people for years....i am beginning to see it now...and some of these will cannot get that fact thru their thick skulls he has to be a "natural born american"...born in the usa or a protectorate or territory of the united states....if this story becomes true....it will a sad day indeed ..to the aspirations of many americans dashed because this greed for power and corruption of power....no matter what their color or creed..
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Biden takes over then...after him? Pelosi. Biden would select a VP.

But either way?...it would be a shitstorm that would probably create a massive truama for this country for a long time....so if conspiracy minded people would like to think the whole thing is set up? well....it would be a pretty freaking good one wouldn't it......Really I would rather have Obama just put this whole thing to bed ASAP....
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Seriously that Black arguement is sad...no one cares. The only ones who keep bringing it up are you desperate to ignore any information Obamatrons....how about a comment an my reply showing a Certifiacate of Live birth vs Obama's Certification of live birth from the same era?...why are they so different? what if any different requirements are there? why won't Obama release any more details than a short form COLB that was issued to him in 2007? the re-issue date on the copy I posted is only 8 years prior and is a completely different document in form and in name, why is that?
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You are wrong. What do you want him to do? Mail you a certified copy of his birth certificate?

The thing is, it wouldn't make a difference. You would still think that he was an illegitimate candidate for one reason or another (racism).

If you disagree with the person who is going to be the next president of the United States, why can't you disagree on policy?

None of your CT theories have stuck with Obama.

There are plenty of things that we know about John McCain. None of them CT-related in some way, just this:

Leaving your wife after she waited for you to come back from Vietnam
Marrying a woman with mob ties, whose father spent time in prison because of those mob ties
Keating 5
Picking Sarah "Joy Serena" Palin as VP
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Biden takes over then...after him? Pelosi. Biden would select a VP.

But either way?...it would be a shitstorm that would probably create a massive truama for this country for a long time....so if conspiracy minded people would like to think the whole thing is set up? well....it would be a pretty freaking good one wouldn't it......Really I would rather have Obama just put this whole thing to bed ASAP....
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Would Biden take over? Is that the way it works or are you just guessing?

I can't imagine that Biden would just become POTUS if the candidate he shared a ticket with got elected by fraudulent circumstances. Hmmm, does anybody know the "rules" on this?
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bump Can anyone answer these questions please?

Questions!

So, let's suppose there is an actual evidence pointing that Obama is a non-citizen since he was born in Kenya and not in Hawaii as he'd claimed. The US and the world are shocked by the evidence

How would his supporters react to the revelation? Would they become greatly betrayed and lied to?
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Maybe McSame was born on Mars???
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Seriously that Black arguement is sad...no one cares. The only ones who keep bringing it up are you desperate to ignore any information Obamatrons....how about a comment an my reply showing a Certifiacate of Live birth vs Obama's Certification of live birth from the same era?...why are they so different? what if any different requirements are there? why won't Obama release any more details than a short form COLB that was issued to him in 2007? the re-issue date on the copy I posted is only 8 years prior and is a completely different document in form and in name, why is that?

You are wrong. What do you want him to do? Mail you a certified copy of his birth certificate?

The thing is, it wouldn't make a difference. You would still think that he was an illegitimate candidate for one reason or another (racism).

If you disagree with the person who is going to be the next president of the United States, why can't you disagree on policy?

None of your CT theories have stuck with Obama.

There are plenty of things that we know about John McCain. None of them CT-related in some way, just this:

Leaving your wife after she waited for you to come back from Vietnam
Marrying a woman with mob ties, whose father spent time in prison because of those mob ties
Keating 5
Picking Sarah "Joy Serena" Palin as VP
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That's so sad that Obamaniacs have to resort to "racism" to explain why anybody wouldn't want to vote for the man. And pathetic, really.
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You guys are sad.

Don't be afraid of folks darker than you.
It's okay.
They are still human
And AMERICAN.

Just because he is a bit darker that John McCain,
He isn't a citizen?

Do you think the RNC,
with all their illustrious geniuses,
who's machine has driven this country to this prosperity
we are all enjoying,
would miss this?

If he was a citizen of Kenya
it would have made front page news.

He may be darker than McCain,
But he is still American.

I know it's hard to accept.......

Seriously that Black arguement is sad...no one cares. The only ones who keep bringing it up are you desperate to ignore any information Obamatrons....how about a comment an my reply showing a Certifiacate of Live birth vs Obama's Certification of live birth from the same era?...why are they so different? what if any different requirements are there? why won't Obama release any more details than a short form COLB that was issued to him in 2007? the re-issue date on the copy I posted is only 8 years prior and is a completely different document in form and in name, why is that?
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The thing is,
I am not an Obamatron.
I am an American.

I was born here
amongst the maples
and the cows.

What grates my Parmesan
is the fact no one has a good thing to say about McCain,


If Obama wasn't born in the USA,
not only would the RNC be making a lot of noise,
but, I believe Hillary would have, also.


It seems to me,
if he wasn't quite so "unwhite"
this would have never come up,
especially since McCain was born in Panama.
on an army base,
again, a non issue.

I may be wrong,
since I'm just a hillbilly,
and I am not sophisticated like city folk,
but, it seems McCain has pretty much
promised to continue Bush's agenda of
Arrogant Ignorance.

I, personally,
can't see how our country
can survive this.

Maybe we need another four or eight years of leadership
from another President who can't find his ass with both hands
and an ass map,

McCain was never meant to win this election.
Palin was a distraction.
They knew this episode of Economic Terrorism was coming.

The RNC has probably been complicit in the rape
of the citizens of this country,
and Palin was chosen,
in my humble, hillbilly opinion,
because none of the big boys
wanted to be on a doomed ticket.

McCain is the twenty-first century version
of Elmer Fudd,
trying to catch the wabbit.

Let's get past this,
and get on with fixing what is wrong with this country.

Bush's administration was a black comedy,
but no one is laughing.

The U.S. needs a Leader.
If Obama isn't the leader
at least he can't do any worse than Bush.