Okay people, time to lay the cards on the table. Whattayagot?
I have the fact that the phenomenon sometimes called "chemtrails" fits the description of contrails under certain conditions.
You believers claim that contrails that linger and spread aren't really contrails. Why? Do you believe the lie that contrails never do that? How do you expect solid particles to behave? He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Celia and Bill Abram, retired public school teachers, have been watching chemtrails since late 1998. A former meteorological observer with the Canadian Dept. of Transportation, Bill Abram knew early on that the chemtrails did not match his observations of cirrus or alto stratus or 'mare's tails' or anything else. It was chemtrails, not contrails, that was obscuring the sky. As a matter of fact, that's what the US government (and NATO) calls it. Not officially, of course, because it doesn't exist. That's why most of the public doesn't see them or rationalizes them away. They still trust 'their' government: They are under the sway of the ersatz collective cognitive imperative (to paraphrase Julian Jaynes). Celia and Bill Abram have been watching our double crossed skies for nearly a decade now. Celia identifies the trance state this way, "They never noticed it, haven't a clue what it is, and really aren't that alarmed when we tell them." As Celia points out, our only hope is to induce some cog dis in the trance states of Canada, the U.S., Europe, Australia...
No evidence, huh? He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525542 10/14/2008 9:18 PM
I don't mean cut and paste from propaganda sites, testimony from "insiders," or videos of contrails that you think "don't look right." I'm talking about evidence, such as in situ samples, reasons why "normal" contrails don't behave a certain way, etc. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 9:23 PM
Chemtrails and contrails are different. You're just a shill wasting people's energy and focus.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
No, if you have evidence of how "chemtrails" are anything other than frozen water vapor, then you're doing the world a great disservice by not presenting it. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525542 10/14/2008 9:23 PM
Chemtrails and contrails are different. You're just a shill wasting people's energy and focus.
No, if you have evidence of how "chemtrails" are anything other than frozen water vapor, then you're doing the world a great disservice by not presenting it.
The report also reveals details of the DICE trials in south Dorset between 1971 and 1975. These involved US and UK military scientists spraying into the air massive quantities of serratia marcescens bacteria, with an anthrax simulant and phenol.
Quoting: Hmm
Get a new job, shill.
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 9:26 PM
You don't have to "believe" in chemtrails to realize that some military projects may reacquire a conductive ionosphere.
You're a retard if you ONLY "believe" in contrails as an explanation to everything you see in the sky.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
And an alleged spraying program at 35,000ft. affects the ionosphere how?
Do the research. Contrails fit what we see. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 9:26 PM
Guy, your daughters need attention. Go tend to your kids and stop neglecting them. that's abuse
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 517418
They're asleep. I appreciate your concern, though. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
I don't mean cut and paste from propaganda sites, testimony from "insiders," or videos of contrails that you think "don't look right." I'm talking about evidence, such as in situ samples, reasons why "normal" contrails don't behave a certain way, etc.
Quoting: The Guy
Now your just being mean! Demanding real evidence and the like.
lol Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: John 11:25
Anonymous Coward User ID: 520156 10/14/2008 9:28 PM
You don't have to "believe" in chemtrails to realize that some military projects may reacquire a conductive ionosphere.
You're a retard if you ONLY "believe" in contrails as an explanation to everything you see in the sky.
And an alleged spraying program at 35,000ft. affects the ionosphere how?
Do the research. Contrails fit what we see.
Quoting: The Guy
Contrails fit SOME of what you may see. Are you so Naive to believe that everything you see is a contrail? Do you really believe that everything you see sprayed in the sky is a contrail?
i have some pictures i took of some low level spraying over my neighborhood and i sent them to all of the local media outlets..no response from any of them.
The report also reveals details of the DICE trials in south Dorset between 1971 and 1975. These involved US and UK military scientists spraying into the air massive quantities of serratia marcescens bacteria, with an anthrax simulant and phenol.
Get a new job, shill.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
Cool. Where's the evidence that anything like that is going on worldwide now?
I like the Navy, and will probably reenlist. I'm not a shill. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 526440 10/14/2008 9:31 PM
Chemtrails and contrails are different. You're just a shill wasting people's energy and focus.
No, if you have evidence of how "chemtrails" are anything other than frozen water vapor, then you're doing the world a great disservice by not presenting it.
Quoting: The Guy
Guy is a gov spook who needs to be indicted. tell us about WTC 7 scumbag.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 517418 10/14/2008 9:33 PM
The report also reveals details of the DICE trials in south Dorset between 1971 and 1975. These involved US and UK military scientists spraying into the air massive quantities of serratia marcescens bacteria, with an anthrax simulant and phenol.
Get a new job, shill.
Cool. Where's the evidence that anything like that is going on worldwide now?
I like the Navy, and will probably reenlist. I'm not a shill.
Quoting: The Guy
Maybe it's top secret? Maybe it's classified?
You're not a shill? So you just post and reply to chemtrail topics on months on end as a service to mankind? Right? Go reenlist, shill.
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Morgellons, Nanomedicine,
Quoting: Skipper
Please explain why if so-called chemtrails have been sprayed on over 300 million people for well over a decade, it would be the cause of Morgellons a very rare disease?
Where is the friggen logic in that?
I don't understand the thinking process that would come up with that?
What are there? Less than say 25,000 cases in the entire US?
So-called chemtrails seem to be really ineffective.
Why has the total death rate in the US been declining since 1979 if so-called chemtrails are killing everyone?
WHERE are the cases of baritosis an extremely easily diagnosed illness that would be extremely common if the huge amounts of barium you people claim is being released in the atmosphere was really being released?
Baritosis will show up on any common x-ray taken of the chest, hundreds of thousands of which are taken every year in the US.
The simple TRUTH is this,
chemtrails are nothing but an internet myth that is perpetuated in lunatic fringe web sites.
They have been debunked to friggen death and are now a dead horse.
Please, PLEASE, come up with some new BS for us to debunk as so-called chemtrails are really starting to stink from decomposure!!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 511006 10/14/2008 9:37 PM
Please explain why if so-called chemtrails have been sprayed on over 300 million people for well over a decade, it would be the cause of Morgellons a very rare disease?
Quoting: G. House
Ahh, the super sized tubbo shill arrives.
Who said chemtrails are being sprayed on 300 million people? Did you pull that figure from your anus?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 526440 10/14/2008 9:39 PM
Why has the total death rate in the US been declining since 1979 if so-called chemtrails are killing everyone?
Quoting: G. House
G. House, my oversized friend. Did you realize that medical technology has been increasing since 1979 and is not synchronized with chemtrails, so there is no logic in your statement, because it is based on many factors? Did you forget to take into account that the death rate in the US may be attributed to other factors? Or do you believe that the US death rate is pegged to chemtrails in the sky? Maybe they are spraying antibiotics on people Shill House?
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