I saw a criss-crossed sky of chemtrails, and flying THROUGH the chemtrails was a jet leaving a CONTRAIL that dissipated and then disappeared behind the jet that WASN'T spraying.
It was as plain as the nose on my face, and until then, I also had my doubts.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525598
Do you think the atmospheric conditions are the same all across the sky at all altitudes?
You're also assuming that some "spraying" was going on. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 176444 10/14/2008 10:04 PM
Again, nobody said the plane had to be 50 miles above, perhaps the layer of conduit material that is being sprayed works at different altitudes.
That's the problem with you shills, you're so adament on disproving every statement made, that you don't realize that disproving something doesn't make your statement or ideas anymore correct.
Saying that "A plane can't fly 50 miles above" doesn't disprove that fact that the plane MAY NOT NEED TO BE IN THE IONOSPHERE.
The ionosphere is used for military applications.
Conductive material is sprayed for certain applications.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
Any material meant to affect the ionosphere would have to be injected either in or above it. Gravity, you know. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525542 10/14/2008 10:07 PM
Because you're a shill who is adamant on spreading disinfo and distracting people?
If chemtrails didn't exist, people like you and G. House would be doing some other rudimentary task that doesn't require much cerebral processing.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
Prove it.
Before persistent contrails started becoming more common in autumn, like they always do, all I've had to debunk have been Punisher's threads. You guys are much better mental exercise, but at least as stubborn as he is. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 10:09 PM
Even if I scanned my W-2 and posted it here, that wouldn't be proof that I don't.
okay, would it prove that you DO?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525598
No, but I can't prove that, lol! He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525542 10/14/2008 10:09 PM
Again, nobody said the plane had to be 50 miles above, perhaps the layer of conduit material that is being sprayed works at different altitudes.
That's the problem with you shills, you're so adament on disproving every statement made, that you don't realize that disproving something doesn't make your statement or ideas anymore correct.
Saying that "A plane can't fly 50 miles above" doesn't disprove that fact that the plane MAY NOT NEED TO BE IN THE IONOSPHERE.
The ionosphere is used for military applications.
Conductive material is sprayed for certain applications.
Any material meant to affect the ionosphere would have to be injected either in or above it. Gravity, you know.
Quoting: The Guy
You are wrong. Provide proof of your statement. Do you really believe that you can't affect the ionosphere below it? Is that what you believe, The Guy?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 493056 10/14/2008 10:12 PM
You are wrong. Provide proof of your statement. Do you really believe that you can't affect the ionosphere below it? Is that what you believe, The Guy?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
Gravity causes things to be attracted toward the center of the Earth. Therefore, things fall down[/]. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525598 10/14/2008 10:12 PM
Do you think the atmospheric conditions are the same all across the sky at all altitudes?
You're also assuming that some "spraying" was going on.
If all atmospheric conditions were the same, that doesn't prove that what he saw was not a "aerosol spraying" or a chemtrail.
He isn't making an assumption, it's a statement describing what he saw.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
I am SAYING that one jet with a CONTRAIL passed THROUGH (GET IT?SAME ALTITUDE AND CONDITIONS!) the CHEMTRAILS left by the aerosol spraying jets. not different times and places....SAME TIME SAME PLACE!
Okay people, time to lay the cards on the table. Whattayagot?
I have the fact that the phenomenon sometimes called "chemtrails" fits the description of contrails under certain conditions.
You believers claim that contrails that linger and spread aren't really contrails. Why? Do you believe the lie that contrails never do that? How do you expect solid particles to behave?
Quoting: The Guy
Free speech is not allowed on GLP, if the moderators or owner disagree with you... *POOF* ... I know from experience...
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525542 10/14/2008 10:12 PM
You are wrong. Provide proof of your statement. Do you really believe that you can't affect the ionosphere below it? Is that what you believe, The Guy?
Gravity causes things to be attracted toward the center of the Earth. Therefore, things fall down[/].
Quoting: The Guy
Do you really believe that you can't affect the ionosphere below it?
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 10:12 PM
It's easy to figure out what's true and what's not on GLP.
If The Guy or G. House is debunking it, it's definitely true.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493056
So if someone who knows what he's talking about tells you you're wrong, it means you're right? He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
You are wrong. Provide proof of your statement. Do you really believe that you can't affect the ionosphere below it? Is that what you believe, The Guy?
Gravity causes things to be attracted toward the center of the Earth. Therefore, things fall down[/].
Quoting: The Guy
You will never convince the believers in internet fairy tale stuff, damn they think the alien mother ship is coming today or something.
Free speech is not allowed on GLP, if the moderators or owner disagree with you... *POOF* ... I know from experience...
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 10:14 PM
If all atmospheric conditions were the same, that doesn't prove that what he saw was not a "aerosol spraying" or a chemtrail.
He isn't making an assumption, it's a statement describing what he saw.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
It is an assumption, actually two. First, he's assuming the atmosphere is uniform in temperature, relative humidity, and pressure. Second, he's assuming that someone is spraying. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 10:15 PM
Before persistent contrails started becoming more common in autumn...
You just did. You're a 100% Grade A government shill. Just like your butt-buddy G Shillhouse.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493056
What? I made an observation. I thought you were all for that. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525542 10/14/2008 10:16 PM
You are wrong. Provide proof of your statement. Do you really believe that you can't affect the ionosphere below it? Is that what you believe, The Guy?
Gravity causes things to be attracted toward the center of the Earth. Therefore, things fall down[/].
You will never convince the believers in internet fairy tale stuff, damn they think the alien mother ship is coming today or something.
Quoting: On a Bender
Coming from an alcoholic shill who spends his life on Computers trolling those nutjobs...
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 10:18 PM
I am SAYING that one jet with a CONTRAIL passed THROUGH (GET IT?SAME ALTITUDE AND CONDITIONS!) the CHEMTRAILS left by the aerosol spraying jets. not different times and places....SAME TIME SAME PLACE!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525598
Contrails are translucent. It could have been above or below by several hundred feet, and you wouldn't be able to tell it from the ground. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525542 10/14/2008 10:18 PM
It is an assumption, actually two. First, he's assuming the atmosphere is uniform in temperature, relative humidity, and pressure. Second, he's assuming that someone is spraying.
Quoting: The Guy
Maybe someone was spraying. Do you believe that planes through out history haven't sprayed the skies in aerosol operations?
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 10:19 PM
Do you really believe that you can't affect the ionosphere below it?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
Not unless you're shining microwaves at it, lol. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525598 10/14/2008 10:19 PM
If all atmospheric conditions were the same, that doesn't prove that what he saw was not a "aerosol spraying" or a chemtrail.
He isn't making an assumption, it's a statement describing what he saw.
It is an assumption, actually two. First, he's assuming the atmosphere is uniform in temperature, relative humidity, and pressure. Second, he's assuming that someone is spraying.
Quoting: The Guy
SHE isn't assuming a damn thing...why do you insist on overlooking that I said it was the SAME PLACE SAME ALTITUDE< SAME TIME!\
You're a fucking blabbering robotic idiot....I'm done with this thread....
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 10:21 PM
Maybe someone was spraying. Do you believe that planes through out history haven't sprayed the skies in aerosol operations?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
Sure, there are well-documented examples. I'm looking for physical evidence that something like that is being done all the time worldwide now. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 10:23 PM
SHE isn't assuming a damn thing...why do you insist on overlooking that I said it was the SAME PLACE SAME ALTITUDE< SAME TIME!
You're a fucking blabbering robotic idiot....I'm done with this thread....
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525598
Because...humans...can't...judge...altitude...without ...tools. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525542 10/14/2008 10:25 PM
Anyway, you can reply to these fat shills like G. House all day long. SnakeAirlines, The Guy, and the rest of the paid geeks who spend their lives trolling chemtrail threads need to get lives and better hobbies.
With Dr. Carol S. Rosin and many others, [Webre] is a co-architect of the Space Preservation Act and the Space Preservation Treaty introduced to the U.S. Congress by Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) to ban space-based weapons.
So what’s Kucinich’s involvement in this? It’s difficult to say. Kucinich is anti-war, so perhaps that’s his motivation. He does have a lot of new-age, UFO-believing, friends, but he’s also running for president. When he was made aware of the nature of the “exotic weapons” language in the bill, it was re-written, and when questioned about it, he said
“I’m not into that. Understand me. When I found out that was in there, I said, ‘Look, I’m not interested in going there.’”
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525542 10/14/2008 10:27 PM
[link to www.asp.bnl.gov]
The Department of Energy's Atmospheric Science Program has as its long-term goal developing comprehensive understanding of the atmospheric processes that control the transport, transformation, and fate of energy related trace chemicals and particulate matter. The current focus of the program is aerosol radiative forcing of climate: aerosol formation and evolution and aerosol properties that affect direct and indirect influences on climate and climate change.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525542 10/14/2008 10:29 PM
With Dr. Carol S. Rosin and many others, [Webre] is a co-architect of the Space Preservation Act and the Space Preservation Treaty introduced to the U.S. Congress by Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) to ban space-based weapons.
So what’s Kucinich’s involvement in this? It’s difficult to say. Kucinich is anti-war, so perhaps that’s his motivation. He does have a lot of new-age, UFO-believing, friends, but he’s also running for president. When he was made aware of the nature of the “exotic weapons” language in the bill, it was re-written, and when questioned about it, he said
“I’m not into that. Understand me. When I found out that was in there, I said, ‘Look, I’m not interested in going there.’”
Quoting: G. House
Cool. Thanks, tubbo.
See ya next week when we're discussing chemtrails again.
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