Again, nobody said the plane had to be 50 miles above, perhaps the layer of conduit material that is being sprayed works at different altitudes.
That's the problem with you shills, you're so adament on disproving every statement made, that you don't realize that disproving something doesn't make your statement or ideas anymore correct.
Saying that "A plane can't fly 50 miles above" doesn't disprove that fact that the plane MAY NOT NEED TO BE IN THE IONOSPHERE.
The ionosphere is used for military applications.
Conductive material is sprayed for certain applications.
Any material meant to affect the ionosphere would have to be injected either in or above it. Gravity, you know.
You are wrong. Provide proof of your statement. Do you really believe that you can't affect the ionosphere below it? Is that what you believe, The Guy?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
His real point is that rare experiments carried out at extremely high altitudes do not resemble in any shape or form what you people are claiming as so-called chemtrails.
Bringing one time or rare experimentations at these altitude are basically obfuscation on your part.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525542 10/14/2008 10:37 PM
His real point is that rare experiments carried out at extremely high altitudes do not resemble in any shape or form what you people are claiming as so-called chemtrails.
Bringing one time or rare experimentations at these altitude are basically obfuscation on your part.
Quoting: G. House
Obfuscation is propagating the belief that every cloudlike formation in the sky spread by military aircraft can be explained by contrails.
[link to www.asp.bnl.gov]
The Department of Energy's Atmospheric Science Program has as its long-term goal developing comprehensive understanding of the atmospheric processes that control the transport, transformation, and fate of energy related trace chemicals and particulate matter. The current focus of the program is aerosol radiative forcing of climate: aerosol formation and evolution and aerosol properties that affect direct and indirect influences on climate and climate change.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 500644
I think one of your problems is a misunderstanding of the word aerosol.
Most aerosols in the atmosphere are from natural sources, ie.:
dust storms
volcanos
forest fires
etc.
If there weren't any aerosols in the atmosphere it wouldn't rain, and there wouldn't be any clouds.
Some aerosols are indeed man made and are the result of industrial processes, burning fossil fuels, and even aircraft contrails as they do contain a small amount of soot, or carbon.
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 10:40 PM
[link to www.asp.bnl.gov]
The Department of Energy's Atmospheric Science Program has as its long-term goal developing comprehensive understanding of the atmospheric processes that control the transport, transformation, and fate of energy related trace chemicals and particulate matter. The current focus of the program is aerosol radiative forcing of climate: aerosol formation and evolution and aerosol properties that affect direct and indirect influences on climate and climate change.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 500644
An aerosol is anything in the air that's not air. "Radiative forcing" means how aerosols affect heat transfer. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525542 10/14/2008 10:42 PM
[link to www.asp.bnl.gov]
The Department of Energy's Atmospheric Science Program has as its long-term goal developing comprehensive understanding of the atmospheric processes that control the transport, transformation, and fate of energy related trace chemicals and particulate matter. The current focus of the program is aerosol radiative forcing of climate: aerosol formation and evolution and aerosol properties that affect direct and indirect influences on climate and climate change.
I think one of your problems is a misunderstanding of the word aerosol.
Most aerosols in the atmosphere are from natural sources, ie.:
dust storms
volcanos
forest fires
etc.
If there weren't any aerosols in the atmosphere it wouldn't rain, and there wouldn't be any clouds.
Some aerosols are indeed man made and are the result of industrial processes, burning fossil fuels, and even aircraft contrails as they do contain a small amount of soot, or carbon.
Quoting: G. House
Didn't you admit you worked at an Air Force base in the past, House?
aaron_o.o rarely pure, never simple User ID: 513816 10/14/2008 10:42 PM
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes"
- Justice Felix Frankfurter
"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing NO allegiance and acknowledging NO responsibility to the people." - Theodore Roosevelt, 1906
Pythagoras
...never allowed his neophytes to see him during the years of probation, but instructed them from behind a curtain in his cave
- H. P. Blavatsky (Isis Unveiled)
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.myspace.com]
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 10:42 PM
You can make that statement after you prove that they haven't ended.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
No, you claim that they haven't stopped. Bring forth the evidence. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 10:43 PM
Obfuscation is propagating the belief that every cloudlike formation in the sky spread by military aircraft can be explained by contrails.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
Military aircraft don't leave contrails? He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
His real point is that rare experiments carried out at extremely high altitudes do not resemble in any shape or form what you people are claiming as so-called chemtrails.
Bringing one time or rare experimentations at these altitude are basically obfuscation on your part.
Obfuscation is propagating the belief that every cloudlike formation in the sky spread by military aircraft can be explained by contrails.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
Yet most of what you people call so-called chemtrails are coming from commercial airliners.
Commercial airliners are by far the most common producer of persistant contrails and contrails that spread out into clouds.
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 10:44 PM
Nifty firefighting plane. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 517418 10/14/2008 10:44 PM
[link to www.asp.bnl.gov]
The Department of Energy's Atmospheric Science Program has as its long-term goal developing comprehensive understanding of the atmospheric processes that control the transport, transformation, and fate of energy related trace chemicals and particulate matter. The current focus of the program is aerosol radiative forcing of climate: aerosol formation and evolution and aerosol properties that affect direct and indirect influences on climate and climate change.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 500644
Good proof noted. Shill destroyed again.
aaron_o.o rarely pure, never simple User ID: 513816 10/14/2008 10:45 PM
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes"
- Justice Felix Frankfurter
"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing NO allegiance and acknowledging NO responsibility to the people." - Theodore Roosevelt, 1906
Pythagoras
...never allowed his neophytes to see him during the years of probation, but instructed them from behind a curtain in his cave
- H. P. Blavatsky (Isis Unveiled)
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.myspace.com]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525542 10/14/2008 10:46 PM
[link to www.asp.bnl.gov]
The Department of Energy's Atmospheric Science Program has as its long-term goal developing comprehensive understanding of the atmospheric processes that control the transport, transformation, and fate of energy related trace chemicals and particulate matter. The current focus of the program is aerosol radiative forcing of climate: aerosol formation and evolution and aerosol properties that affect direct and indirect influences on climate and climate change.
Good proof noted. Shill destroyed again.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 517418
Anonymous Coward User ID: 517418 10/14/2008 10:46 PM
[link to www.asp.bnl.gov]
The Department of Energy's Atmospheric Science Program has as its long-term goal developing comprehensive understanding of the atmospheric processes that control the transport, transformation, and fate of energy related trace chemicals and particulate matter. The current focus of the program is aerosol radiative forcing of climate: aerosol formation and evolution and aerosol properties that affect direct and indirect influences on climate and climate change.
Good proof noted. Shill destroyed again.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 517418
Anonymous Coward User ID: 517418 10/14/2008 10:46 PM
[link to www.asp.bnl.gov]
The Department of Energy's Atmospheric Science Program has as its long-term goal developing comprehensive understanding of the atmospheric processes that control the transport, transformation, and fate of energy related trace chemicals and particulate matter. The current focus of the program is aerosol radiative forcing of climate: aerosol formation and evolution and aerosol properties that affect direct and indirect influences on climate and climate change.
Good proof noted. Shill destroyed again.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 517418
Anonymous Coward User ID: 517418 10/14/2008 10:46 PM
[link to www.asp.bnl.gov]
The Department of Energy's Atmospheric Science Program has as its long-term goal developing comprehensive understanding of the atmospheric processes that control the transport, transformation, and fate of energy related trace chemicals and particulate matter. The current focus of the program is aerosol radiative forcing of climate: aerosol formation and evolution and aerosol properties that affect direct and indirect influences on climate and climate change.
Good proof noted. Shill destroyed again.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 517418
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 10:46 PM
Dude! What happened to him? He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
The Guy Are you sure you want to know? User ID: 349666 10/14/2008 10:48 PM
Bring forth the evidence that proves they have stopped.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
I'm not making that claim. All the evidence points to contrails. If you have physical evidence of anything else, let's see it. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
The Honkey thinks you are all wasting your time here. What is known is known. To have a discourse with a protozoa and an enlisted military member with the intention of influence is borderline insanity.
Please carry on should this be your evening entertainment, but know that the Honkey understands your plight. It is stated that one mans garbage is another mans treasure. I submit to you that the same can be said for information or knowledge. What is truth and religion to one man is a conpsiracy to another; and to another, that information could be utter nonsense.
*******************
Yeah, that's right- I've already broken out the Christmas decor!
Actually, I've looked through binoculars at a plane leaving a contrail of the type some call "chemtrails." I was able to make out clear SouthWest Airlines livery. He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
Bring forth the evidence that proves they have stopped.
I'm not making that claim. All the evidence points to contrails. If you have physical evidence of anything else, let's see it.
Quoting: The Guy
Again, bring forth evidence that proves they have stopped. All the evidence points to the fact that contrails don't explain everything. And besides, i'm conversation with a paid shill who sits infront of a computer replying to chemtrail topics. Psy ops.
Actually, I've looked through binoculars at a plane leaving a contrail of the type some call "chemtrails." I was able to make out clear SouthWest Airlines livery.
Quoting: The Guy
Really, thats fascinating. Did your boss pay you overtime for your reconnaissance work?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 525542 10/14/2008 10:55 PM
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