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Chemtrails: Where's the proof?
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The Guy 
Are you sure you want to know?
User ID: 349666
10/14/2008 10:56 PM
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Again, bring forth evidence that proves they have stopped. All the evidence points to the fact that contrails don't explain everything. And besides, i'm conversation with a paid shill who sits infront of a computer replying to chemtrail topics. Psy ops. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
You're still letting other people spoon-feed you! You believe that contrails don't linger and spread. Why?
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought. |
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G. House
User ID: 526364
10/14/2008 10:59 PM
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But I'm getting old and my memory isn't what it used to be.
I've noticed. Could your memory loss and senility be related to the chemtrails planes flying from Eglin Air Force base in Florida? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
I don't keep a friggen log of every post I make.
Apparently though YOU do.
What did I say? |
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TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 526288
10/14/2008 11:00 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 525542
10/14/2008 11:01 PM | | Re: Chemtrails: Where's the proof? | Quote |
You're still letting other people spoon-feed you! You believe that contrails don't linger and spread. Why? Quoting: The Guy
Actually, that reply gives succinct insight into your own personal bias and psyche.
You believe that contrails are the end all answer to everything anyone sees in the sky behind aircraft. Why do you believe contrails can disprove chemtrails? Have you tested the contents of every contrail or chemtrail in the sky? |
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Skipper
User ID: 448826
10/14/2008 11:03 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 525542
10/14/2008 11:04 PM | | Re: Chemtrails: Where's the proof? | Quote |
But I'm getting old and my memory isn't what it used to be.
I've noticed. Could your memory loss and senility be related to the chemtrails planes flying from Eglin Air Force base in Florida?
I don't keep a friggen log of every post I make.
Apparently though YOU do.
What did I say? Quoting: G. House
How should I know what you said? It's hard to figure out when you're not bullshitting everyone with your GLP job.
Anyway... is your memory loss related to age or the chemtrail planes from Eglin Air Force Base? Probably the chemtrail planes right? |
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G. House
User ID: 526364
10/14/2008 11:13 PM
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Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 526288
First link is of a French military refueling aircraft.
The pods are for the refueling drogues.
Second aircraft is a Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner owned by Boeing and used to test weight distribution. This aircraft is extremely well documented by Boeing at it official web site.
In both cases I am very sure the people that presented these aircraft as so-called chemtrail spraying aircraft were well aware of their real purposes.
Which begs the question, why the obvious lies?
Why do they have to do this to perpetuate the myth if it isn't in fact a myth?
Both these aircraft have been thouroughly debunked time and time again.
Yet here YOU are parroting the disinfo yet again.
I don't get it. |
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G. House
User ID: 526364
10/14/2008 11:14 PM
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But I'm getting old and my memory isn't what it used to be.
I've noticed. Could your memory loss and senility be related to the chemtrails planes flying from Eglin Air Force base in Florida?
I don't keep a friggen log of every post I make.
Apparently though YOU do.
What did I say?
How should I know what you said? It's hard to figure out when you're not bullshitting everyone with your GLP job.
Anyway... is your memory loss related to age or the chemtrail planes from Eglin Air Force Base? Probably the chemtrail planes right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
I am not anywhere near Eglin.
I rarely see contrails of any kind where I live. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 525542
10/14/2008 11:15 PM | | Re: Chemtrails: Where's the proof? | Quote |
Chemtrail Plane Photographed On The Ground
[ link to www.rense.com]
INSIDE A GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAIL AIRCRAFT [ link to www.cloakanddagger.de]
First link is of a French military refueling aircraft.
The pods are for the refueling drogues.
Second aircraft is a Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner owned by Boeing and used to test weight distribution. This aircraft is extremely well documented by Boeing at it official web site.
In both cases I am very sure the people that presented these aircraft as so-called chemtrail spraying aircraft were well aware of their real purposes.
Which begs the question, why the obvious lies?
Why do they have to do this to perpetuate the myth if it isn't in fact a myth?
Both these aircraft have been thouroughly debunked time and time again.
Yet here YOU are parroting the disinfo yet again.
I don't get it.
Well, when someone is paid to debunk and reply to every chemtrail thread on GLP, like you have done in your thousands upon thousands of posts. Why shouldn't people perpetuate the differences between chemtrails and contrails.
How did you get your job anyway, G. House? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 525542
10/14/2008 11:16 PM | | Re: Chemtrails: Where's the proof? | Quote |
But I'm getting old and my memory isn't what it used to be.
I've noticed. Could your memory loss and senility be related to the chemtrails planes flying from Eglin Air Force base in Florida?
I don't keep a friggen log of every post I make.
Apparently though YOU do.
What did I say?
How should I know what you said? It's hard to figure out when you're not bullshitting everyone with your GLP job.
Anyway... is your memory loss related to age or the chemtrail planes from Eglin Air Force Base? Probably the chemtrail planes right?
I am not anywhere near Eglin.
I rarely see contrails of any kind where I live. Quoting: G. House
Maybe thats why you're sick and old, you can't even see the chemtrails! |
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G. House
User ID: 526364
10/14/2008 11:20 PM
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You're still letting other people spoon-feed you! You believe that contrails don't linger and spread. Why?
Actually, that reply gives succinct insight into your own personal bias and psyche.
You believe that contrails are the end all answer to everything anyone sees in the sky behind aircraft. Why do you believe contrails can disprove chemtrails? Have you tested the contents of every contrail or chemtrail in the sky? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
It's basically because the cornerstone of so-called chemtrail believers is that ALL NORMAL contrails rapidly dissipate.
Anybody that is really knowledgeable about contrails and science behind their formation knows that is not true. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 525542
10/14/2008 11:23 PM | | Re: Chemtrails: Where's the proof? | Quote |
It's basically because the cornerstone of so-called chemtrail believers is that ALL NORMAL contrails rapidly dissipate.
Anybody that is really knowledgeable about contrails and science behind their formation knows that is not true. Quoting: G. House
Why should anyone trust a senile old underemployed man? |
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G. House
User ID: 526364
10/14/2008 11:23 PM
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How did you get your job anyway, G. House? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
I saw an ad for training on a matchbook cover.
How did you get your job? |
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G. House
User ID: 526364
10/14/2008 11:26 PM
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But I'm getting old and my memory isn't what it used to be.
I've noticed. Could your memory loss and senility be related to the chemtrails planes flying from Eglin Air Force base in Florida?
I don't keep a friggen log of every post I make.
Apparently though YOU do.
What did I say?
How should I know what you said? It's hard to figure out when you're not bullshitting everyone with your GLP job.
Anyway... is your memory loss related to age or the chemtrail planes from Eglin Air Force Base? Probably the chemtrail planes right?
I am not anywhere near Eglin.
I rarely see contrails of any kind where I live.
Maybe thats why you're sick and old, you can't even see the chemtrails! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
Nope, still have better than average eyesight. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 525542
10/14/2008 11:26 PM | | Re: Chemtrails: Where's the proof? | Quote |
How did you get your job anyway, G. House?
I saw an ad for training on a matchbook cover.
How did you get your job? Quoting: G. House
Are you sure it was a matchbook cover? What makes you think it wasn't a persistent contrail formation disguised as a matchbook?
I was hired to fly chem trail missions when I was 17. I was kidnapped and trained and sworn to secrecy. Thats how they get us. |
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The Guy
Are you sure you want to know?
User ID: 349666
10/14/2008 11:40 PM
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Really, thats fascinating. Did your boss pay you overtime for your reconnaissance work? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
The Navy doesn't pay overtime. I wish they did!
No, I was on the fo'c'cle of my YP boat, and saw a U-shaped contrail. Since that was unusual, I went to the pilothouse and got out the binoculars. Red and blue plane, Southwest Airlines.
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought. |
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G. House
User ID: 526364
10/14/2008 11:40 PM
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How did you get your job anyway, G. House?
I saw an ad for training on a matchbook cover.
How did you get your job?
Are you sure it was a matchbook cover? What makes you think it wasn't a persistent contrail formation disguised as a matchbook?
I was hired to fly chem trail missions when I was 17. I was kidnapped and trained and sworn to secrecy. Thats how they get us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
Really?
I fly out of the secret chemtrail base at Sunnyland Station, Florida myself. |
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The Guy
Are you sure you want to know?
User ID: 349666
10/14/2008 11:42 PM
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Actually, that reply gives succinct insight into your own personal bias and psyche.
You believe that contrails are the end all answer to everything anyone sees in the sky behind aircraft. Why do you believe contrails can disprove chemtrails? Have you tested the contents of every contrail or chemtrail in the sky? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
Has there been even one test of a contrail that showed anything other than ice and jet exhaust? Even one?
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493056
10/14/2008 11:46 PM | | Re: Chemtrails: Where's the proof? | Quote |
Didn't you admit you worked at an Air Force base in the past, House?
Since you keep track of everything I post, why don't you tell me?
I MIGHT have mentioned spending time at Wright Patterson in Dayton.
I MIGHT have mentioned spending time at Selfridge in Michigan.
I MIGHT have mentioned Oscoda.
I MIGHT have mentioned Homestead.
But I'm getting old and my memory isn't what it used to be.
I really can't go into exactly what I was doing at ANY of those facilities. Quoting: G. House
You MIGHT have mentioned you USED to be the Artist Formerly Known As HiRisque.
But you're STILL a government shill. |
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Zephyros
User ID: 519281
10/14/2008 11:49 PM | | Re: Chemtrails: Where's the proof? | Quote |
I draw your collective attention to this paper; "Calculations of Aircraft Contrail Formation Critical Temperatures" published in Journal of Applied Meteorology, Volume 36, Issue 12 (December 1997) by Mark L. Schrader (Air Weather Service, Scott Air Force Base, Illinois)
[link to ams.allenpress.com]
It describes the thermodynamics concerning the formation of contrails and how to calculate the atmospheric conditions in which they occur.
This paper is also instructive and explains how contrails change into cirrus clouds.
"On the Transition of Contrails into Cirrus Clouds" by F. Schröder and B. Kärcher (and others)
[link to ams.allenpress.com]
Here is an extract from the introduction.
"Aircraft exhaust may trigger cloud formation in two ways, either directly or indirectly. In the direct case, a contrail forms immediately behind the aircraft. This requires a special thermodynamic state of the atmosphere, especially low (< 230K, < -43C) temperatures at typical flight altitudes (about 250 hPa, 35000 ft) (e.g., Schumann 1996). After a short (about 1 s) initial growth stage (Kärcher et al. 1996), the contrail will evaporate within tens of seconds if the air is dry. In contrast, contrail growth will continue in background air that is supersaturated with respect to ice. Eventually, the line-shaped contrail may transform into a cirrus cloud, as demonstrated by satellite observations (Schumann and Wendling 1990; Minnis et al. 1998; Mannstein et al. 1999). The indirect way can occur when aging aircraft exhaust, consisting of an internal mixture of black carbon soot and liquid volatile aerosols (mainly composed of H2SO4/H2O), leads to the nucleation of ice crystals and, hence, the formation of cirrus clouds, where no cloud would have formed in absence of aircraft (Jensen and Toon 1997; DeMott et al. 1997; Kärcher et al. 1998). This may occur when aircraft exhaust particles have an increased ice-forming ability compared to background particles."
When you see contrails, you are seeing the direct case in dry air. When you see what you call chemtrails, you are seeing the direct case when the background air is supersaturated with respect to ice. Eventually, the line-shaped contrail transforms into a cirrus cloud when it is stretched by wind shear.
Chemtrails are an Internet myth. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 525542
10/14/2008 11:52 PM | | Re: Chemtrails: Where's the proof? | Quote |
Really?
I fly out of the secret chemtrail base at Sunnyland Station, Florida myself. Quoting: G. House
That sounds like another one of your lies G. House. Are you going to post a GoogleMap of the Sunnyland Station as proof?
Aren't you too old to be flying chem trail missions G. House? |
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G. House
User ID: 526364
10/14/2008 11:52 PM
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Didn't you admit you worked at an Air Force base in the past, House?
Since you keep track of everything I post, why don't you tell me?
I MIGHT have mentioned spending time at Wright Patterson in Dayton.
I MIGHT have mentioned spending time at Selfridge in Michigan.
I MIGHT have mentioned Oscoda.
I MIGHT have mentioned Homestead.
But I'm getting old and my memory isn't what it used to be.
I really can't go into exactly what I was doing at ANY of those facilities.
You MIGHT have mentioned you USED to be the Artist Formerly Known As HiRisque.
But you're STILL a government shill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493056
Why would I mention that?
He asked me about airbases, not former screen names.
OK, you want me to be a government operative so bad, I'm a government operative!
Happy! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 525542
10/14/2008 11:53 PM | | Re: Chemtrails: Where's the proof? | Quote |
Actually, that reply gives succinct insight into your own personal bias and psyche.
You believe that contrails are the end all answer to everything anyone sees in the sky behind aircraft. Why do you believe contrails can disprove chemtrails? Have you tested the contents of every contrail or chemtrail in the sky?
Has there been even one test of a contrail that showed anything other than ice and jet exhaust? Even one? Quoting: The Guy
Yes. They're called chemtrails. Shilltard. |
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G. House
User ID: 526364
10/14/2008 11:53 PM
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Really?
I fly out of the secret chemtrail base at Sunnyland Station, Florida myself.
That sounds like another one of your lies G. House. Are you going to post a GoogleMap of the Sunnyland Station as proof?
Aren't you too old to be flying chem trail missions G. House? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
Why? Do you want the google map?
No. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 525542
10/14/2008 11:55 PM | | Re: Chemtrails: Where's the proof? | Quote |
Didn't you admit you worked at an Air Force base in the past, House?
Since you keep track of everything I post, why don't you tell me?
I MIGHT have mentioned spending time at Wright Patterson in Dayton.
I MIGHT have mentioned spending time at Selfridge in Michigan.
I MIGHT have mentioned Oscoda.
I MIGHT have mentioned Homestead.
But I'm getting old and my memory isn't what it used to be.
I really can't go into exactly what I was doing at ANY of those facilities.
You MIGHT have mentioned you USED to be the Artist Formerly Known As HiRisque.
But you're STILL a government shill.
Why would I mention that?
He asked me about airbases, not former screen names.
OK, you want me to be a government operative so bad, I'm a government operative!
Happy! Quoting: G. House
Nah, you're too dumb and old to be a government operative. G. House, someone once posted some stuff about you and your son on GLP, was there any truth to those messages? |
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G. House
User ID: 526364
10/14/2008 11:57 PM
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Nah, you're too dumb and old to be a government operative. G. House, someone once posted some stuff about you and your son on GLP, was there any truth to those messages? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
No family, no kids.
You must have me confused with someone else or they were lying.
Since you keep track of what everyone says what were the messages? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 525542
10/14/2008 11:57 PM | | Re: Chemtrails: Where's the proof? | Quote |
Really?
I fly out of the secret chemtrail base at Sunnyland Station, Florida myself.
That sounds like another one of your lies G. House. Are you going to post a GoogleMap of the Sunnyland Station as proof?
Aren't you too old to be flying chem trail missions G. House?
Why? Do you want the google map?
No. Quoting: G. House
What weighs more during your missions G. House? The chem trail payload or the overweight captain of the airplane? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 525542
10/15/2008 12:00 AM | | Re: Chemtrails: Where's the proof? | Quote |
No family, no kids. Quoting: G. House
Why don't you have kids? Do the chem trail missions you fly contain radioactive material that affect your sperm count? You know like in the Simpsons with Homer? |
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G. House
User ID: 526364
10/15/2008 12:00 AM
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What weighs more during your missions G. House? The chem trail payload or the overweight captain of the airplane? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525542
I know who you are. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 525542
10/15/2008 12:04 AM | | Re: Chemtrails: Where's the proof? | Quote |
What weighs more during your missions G. House? The chem trail payload or the overweight captain of the airplane?
I know who you are. Quoting: G. House
You sound paranoid, G. House. Did they just spray over your house? |
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