Pro-Lifers & Pro-chosers IN HERE NOW!!!!

I don't condone or advocate either way.

bla bla bla. The ones who call themselves "prolife" are sooooooooooooo fuckin full of complete and absolute fuckin shit it aint even funny. They are total fuckin liars. They respect life about as much as i respect shit on the ground. They are repulsive people.

With their guns and "respect for life" LOL ...what a fuckin joke.

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I agree. They 'respect' unborn infants and hate babies and adults. They are SCUM

They want to "save you" when you are in the womb and find a thousand different reasons to kill you and torture you and make life miserable when you are out of it. Those people sicken me.

They want everyone to believe like them. Fuck them and their lying hypocritical ways. They are scum of the Earth.

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I have a little book called The Book of Questions ...

it asks some pretty tough questions...

one of them is

If you could have only one choice.. which of the following would you save?

1. 500,000 people from a country you never visited and had barely heard of?

2. 20,000 people from a part of your own country that you had never visited?

3. 500 people from your state.. all total strangers?

or

4. 1 person... the one person in your life you felt the most love for and you were the closest to?


and I will add my own last question

5. Save and bring back all unborn babies and kill the entire human population in the process?

The truth sometimes realllllly sucks

I think i would have to go with the 500 thousand.

now now now... i didnt start this thread for name calling...


i started it to maybe make one person actually stop and think about what the world would look like if all forms of birth control had never been introduced...


not to mention little johnny or more likely you yourself would have never gotten to go to college (if you did go) because there would not be enough colleges or funds to go around...

if you got grandparents enjoying their social security..

now you know why and how they can

It's murder of an unborn. What's the difference if a life is outside or inside it's mother...it's still a life.

So, should we start killing off all unwanted babies born to the people of this land. Who makes that decision...the parents, the in laws, the church, the local hospital, the federal government.

Abortion does not stop with killing an unwanted birth. Now we are looking at killing off of the old people that do not meet our design of what makes one productive to society.

It's playing God and those who do such plus those who have a hand in such will wish they had not even thought of it one day.

I'm not trying to be mean or argumentative but I know I'm stating truth.

There are at least three life styles in our nation which are bring this country down. You know what they are but just in case you're not sure of number three..it's greed.

If we want population control why not stop teaching sex in the school where they are putting the thoughts in the children's mind. Why not have controls from the broadcasters...oh I know...it's free speech. Free speech will and is destroying this country because we've lost our moral values.

Okay, I'll say the first two life styles which are destroying this country. They are abortion, of which this country alone has preformed over 50 million since Roe V. Wade. and the acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle as an acceptable lifestyle including marriage.

I've got one for you to prove my point. Which two states are in most dire need of federal help right now. Mass. and California. Guess which two states have legalized homosexual marriages...you're right. The same two states. I know there will be those angry with me for saying the above but it's the truth and we must wake up before we go the way of other nations that gave themselves over to unacceptable lifestyles. Really I think we've already gone to far and all we are seeing with the storms, earthquakes, tornadoes, fires, financial problems are all wakeup calls for this nation to turn back to God or He will send worst judgements.

Would I give my life...yes. But do I stand on the street corner and yell stop abortion---No. Do I stand on main street and cry let's change our morals before we become a deeper cesspool and can't get out---No. Would anyone listen---I do not know.

Abortion is murder:


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oh thanks for bringing up that point i forgot...

NOW throw in all those vile homosexuals and make them all straight all the way back through time and let THEM all have KIDS too.... shit..

damn those homos... if it werent for them everyone would be dead by now...

In all truth I happen to be gay. The point about gays is rather.. well, weak and ignorant

Of allllll the shit that happens in this country and you think its because of the gays?

oh my.... and ya know cause Im gay and all i dont know much about the Bible..

so please help me out here.... exactly in what scripture did Jesus make it rain hail fire and brimstone or throw down a tornado or earthquake when he ran across a poor soul?

Like I said.. im no bible expert.. so I am eagerly waiting for the verse

thanks in advance

By the way, I've got a serious question.

Why is it so important to save the sand mouse in Northwest Florida, or the wolf in the northern forest, or the seal in the pacific or some bird flying over some unknown (to most) country, and I could go on and on about save the species programs but we can kill a baby legally.

If someone killed certain pregnant animals, they would have charges brought against them but kill an unborn baby and society says you are doing us a favor. dumb. dumb. dumb.

damn those homos... if it werent for them everyone would be dead by now...OP

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I knew someone, if not you, would raise the point in a negative way.

Look, we all have struggles of which I will not tell what deep struggle I have. We must learn to over come is all I can say.

Maybe the only way is thru Christ. I think so!

Call me cruel or heartless if you like, but my personal opinion is that abortion for simple unwanted/unplanned pregnancy is wrong, wrong, wrong.. The only exeption is in a rape victim, or if a serious defect is detected in the foetus. Now if you say this is wrong ,consider natures alternative. How many other mammals and such coninue to care for a defective birth/infant, none, the mother simply pushes it out of the nursery to die...Should we do that, no.

Abortion is murder.

There is no such thing as Pro-Choice. There is pro-life and pro-death.

Its called respecting ALL life... I stated that I did not condone abortion..

I did not state my views either way...

There are only two things on this planet that kill their host...

The animal kingdom adapts to their hosts(earth) surroundings and they change their lifestyle to fit a changing earth...

The two that change their host to fit THEIR own needs??

One is cancer...it slowly eats away at its host and ultimately kills itself in the process

the other is humans.... humans are destroying the planet and this will lead to our own destuction.. sinners all of us.

Abortion isn't muder,

but this is bloody insane!

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oh for f_cks sake...

you people cant see the forest for the trees...


missing the entire point.... buttttt thats what brainwashing will do to ya i suppose

does anyone get the point of my thread at all??

Bueller? Bueller? anyone?

Sorry, OP ...I just read the rest of your last post. I could quote plenty of scripture where judgment fell on people. It was not just homosexuals. God is against all sin. With all the scriptures I could quote, you would most likely not accept them as meaning anything because you've chose the life you want.

But I will say the Bible says a man (anyone) should not lay with a man as husband and wife.

Leviticus 18:22
You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination.


That word abomination is a very strong word for sin. It would be considered an ultimate sin. Even though all sin would lead one to hell and separation from God, without repentance, some sins do carry harder judgements.

The one that carries the worst is cursing the Holy Spirit with there is no forgiveness ones one does such. Any other sin, as long as one has breath, can be forgiven by God thru Jesus sacrifice and forgiveness.

I did not make these laws but I believe in the one who did. Like I said, I've got a few years on me and still struggle with things I wish I did not and it makes me fear for myself.

So people do not want to see the truth. Those pictures show what the left do not want to see.

I can not see how a doctor or nurse can look at that everyday and keep on killing.

But the Bible does say the root of all evil is MONEY! Must be true.

Money is what's destroying our economy thru greed. Greed of doctors, greed of sales people, greed in the stock market. Oh by the way read about America in Revelation 17/18. Babylon will come down in one hour and all will be surprised it happen but those who know their God. This situation we are in, financial, will seem like it's getting better than the total crash will come. Why...SIN.

There are only two things on this planet that kill their host...the other is humans.... humans are destroying the planet and this will lead to our own destruction.. sinners all of us....OP

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I'd suggest sin is destroying the planet and not because man is here. God created this earth and placed man on it.

He instructed man to subdue it.
To me this means to take total control over all other beings.
He told the people to go in the land and rid it of all unhealthy things. I believe this means unacceptable animal life style (but he also meant the enemy). I'd suggest wild animals should be around only until man has taken over that part of the land. Today, the environmentalist are attempting to save anything and everything but the human beings.

He also told them to populate the earth.
He has not rescinded that order.
I'd suggest when the population would get to a certain level, He would make the appropriate changes but we are not to do it thru abortion.

And right there, you have hit upon the crux of the problem.

People do not WANT to see. They do not WANT to know. So they continue in denial, while excusing themselves and the murder of children, mainly as a 'lifestyle' choice.

Sin is destoying the planet but not because man is here? Are you mad?

yes yes i do know that the bible says that satan roams the earth seeking those whom he can devour and all...

but do you realize that "satans" only true dwelling place is within the human brain? I dont see any evil trees or flowers running amuck....or demonic poodles for that matter

secondly.. get a really old bible and see where it says that God told man to go forth and REPLENISH the earth...yes the wording has been changed.. shock shock

replenish??? what does replenish mean? Not the same as subdue... You go to the grocery store to replenish your food supply because you had some food and now you dont.. so go make or get more... replenish.. trust me.. get an older bible where the words havent been changed.

ok then you go on to say that God told them to go and rid the land of unacceptable animals? Didnt God CREATE those animals.. and then as an afterthought said nahh kill them?

are you serious? Yes God told them.. in Deut. to go and kill every man woman child and beast in certain villages....but why? why those certain places? why THOSE people?

some bible storys were left out of your sunday school lesson

Indeed you have hit the nail on the head when it comes to most people in general...

In sooooooo many ways you cant fathom...including the truth of the bible

do tell us what else Leviticus says that we should not be doing???

if youre gonna pull that scripture out then be prepared to adhere to all the other scriptures in the book of Leviticus

Abortion isn't the greatest solution in the world -but it is a solution, and a choice for many a woman. Bottom line for me is the government should not be forcing women to give birth. Other reason I support the right to choose if that is taken away we are back to the pooer women dying in back alleys from botched procedures.

While the rich and powerful go and get it done as they choose.
One of the chief right to lifer women took her young pregnant daughter to a secret very expensive abortion clinic. The story came out anyway. Not to be hateful but that happens.

I can understand the intensity of feelings people have on this issue and I do understand abortion does seem wrong, just on the face of it. One compromise is just to have the morning after pill readily available. One day PG is a lot better than three months. Birth control should be easily available, too.

Keep going back to right to choose. Rape happens, drunk husbands happen, incest happens, poor health of the mother happens, and I don't feel some woman needs to stand there and convince some judge she is entitled to the procedure.