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Terrence McKenna's Timewave Zero, the Stock Market Crash and what to expect as we near 2012
Please note: This is a serious discussion with those who are interested in McKenna's Timewave Zero theory. If you're not interested in it, then please don't read any further and please refrain from the BS flag. Thanks for your consideration!

According to Terrence McKenna's Timewave Zero theory, the ebb and flow of landmark events in the universe is an inherent quality of time.

If this is true, then time is speeding up quicker than we imagined if the impending stock market crash is relevant to the crash of 1929.

As we move toward the 2012 end date of McKenna's theory, he expected us to re-live every major event in history.

Are we currently in the Timewave of 1929?

If so, we can expect to, once again, experience WWII, Vietnam, the Summer of Love, the Gulf Wars, etc...

The Summer of Love would be cool, but the wars have to end!

If we're currently in the McKenna's time period of 1929, and time is speeding up, then is the end date correct for all of the indigineous calendars with a 2011/2012 end date?

Is it possible that the powers that be have induced the timeline to to quicken up?

Has there been some kind of "intervention" to speed up the process?

To those followers of McKenna, what do you think about what's going on?


Also, is there a site that still has his software available?

Thanks!
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I posted the software on my server
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I posted the software on my server
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duh...

[link to www.workingcaninestore.com]
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I posted the software on my server
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cool! do you have a link?
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Re: Terrence McKenna's Timewave Zero, the Stock Market Crash and what to expect as we near 2012
if were repeating the 1929 wave then it will go by alot faster as the current wave would be a compressed version.

Terrence McKennas Novelty Theory was based on the I Ching:





heres a fifferent Timewave Theory based on the Mayan calendar:

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I posted the software on my server

duh...

[link to www.workingcaninestore.com]
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^5, thanks!

PS My German Shepherd smiles too...lol
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Thanks for posting the videos, AC 524748!

It makes me wonder if 911 was WWI?
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The waves repeat over and over in shorter and shorter epocs.
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The waves repeat over and over in shorter and shorter epocs.
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So this would mean we`re getting out of the Matrix.
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::timewave::
The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed. -Albert Einstein
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::timewave::
 Quoting: Westsail

Thanks for the pic, Westsail

I can't read the dates on the bottom but I'm guessing where the dot is on the upper left part of this picture is where were at today... which means we're spiraling toward singularity
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I can't read the dates on the bottom but I'm guessing where the dot is on the upper left part of this picture is where were at today... which means we're spiraling toward singularity
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Indeed, it would seem to be as such!
Personally, I have been quite taken by the similarities between Terrence's fractals and what the Maya teach.

To any whom this is a new subject, here is a summation of the Maya's system.
[link to video.google.com]
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[link to video.google.com]

P.S. To read the dates on my smiley just save it and open.
The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed. -Albert Einstein
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I'm impressed with your knowledge of this information, Westsail!

Lungold's material is awesome. I could care less whether Calleman, Arguelles or Lungold believe in the 2011 date or not because there's something much greater than a trivial date going on.

I received an email from David Wilcock a few weeks ago after I asked him if I could use some of his material on my next 2012 movie. He agreed but stated he wasn't thrilled that Arguelles would be in the movie. To me, it's more about the message than it is the actual date.

Thanks for posting Lungold's video, my friend!
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Thanx Maya, I have been aware of this for many years, I actually built a website in 1998 that I titled timewave zero, that site has long since gone into the internet memory hole, but I have been able to spread this idea to many people I know, some of them get it and quite a few don't.

Mckenna used the I Ching as well as input from the Mayans to come up with the alogorhythms used to calculate Timewave Zero,

I had the pleasure to attend one of his talks that he gave at a local university years ago not long before he passed away.

One interesting thing he spoke on is how time would compress and spiral in ever tightening cycles with all the worlds history repeating over and over, where we finally end up repeating all history in a increasingly shorter amount of time, most humans arent aware and most probably could not comprehend what is going on.

Noticed how the time events have really started to speed up this year? that could correlate to the novelty dip that was on the graph posted.

We live in interesting times and they are just gonna get more and more interesting the closer we get to 2012.

Cheers
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I don't have anything to contribute to this thread right now (brain not working) but I'll add later. ;)
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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I don't have anything to contribute to this thread right now (brain not working) but I'll add later. ;)
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LOL! Same goes here. Will add later.
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Here is a site that has more info on different aspects of Novelty theory/Timewave Zero.

Just in case anyone reading this thread that is not familiar with this can gain more insight.

LINK:


 [link to www.hermetic.ch] 



Also might want to check out levity.com which was Mckennas site before he passed on.


LINK:


 [link to www.levity.com] 



NOTE: this site has been heavily redacted for some reason, therefore you will need to input the above url into the internet wayback machine.
LINK:


 [link to www.archive.org] 

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Thanx Maya, I have been aware of this for many years, I actually built a website in 1998 that I titled timewave zero, that site has long since gone into the internet memory hole, but I have been able to spread this idea to many people I know, some of them get it and quite a few don't.

Mckenna used the I Ching as well as input from the Mayans to come up with the alogorhythms used to calculate Timewave Zero,

I had the pleasure to attend one of his talks that he gave at a local university years ago not long before he passed away.

One interesting thing he spoke on is how time would compress and spiral in ever tightening cycles with all the worlds history repeating over and over, where we finally end up repeating all history in a increasingly shorter amount of time, most humans arent aware and most probably could not comprehend what is going on.

Noticed how the time events have really started to speed up this year? that could correlate to the novelty dip that was on the graph posted.

We live in interesting times and they are just gonna get more and more interesting the closer we get to 2012.

Cheers
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Thanks for your input, Psychotronic420

How do you interpret the recent events and what's to come in the next year, 2 years 3 years, etc..

You know a lot more about this than I do!

PS I bet McKenna's talk was pretty inspiring
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I wonder if Project Bluebeam will be the equivalence of "War of the Worlds"?
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Using theory, we can easily locate the exact time when 1929 repeats in the current "compressed" cycle.

Prior-1945 belonged to the 6*64*64*64-days cycle (which btw, each day nowadays belongs to still, its just that there is a new shorter cycle within that larger cycle). This is approximately 4306 years.
So, this cycle therefore started at 2013-4306 = 2293 BC.
1929 is therefore 2293+1929 = 4222 years away from the start of that cycle.
Now, simple math tells you the following: 1945 + (4222/4306 * 67,3) is the year when the novelty of 1929 resonates in the current ~67,3-years (6*64*64-days) cycle, which is ~2011.

Now, this just the quality of novelty and doesn't mean that history actually repeats in the very same way.
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Thanx Maya,

I really wish I knew for sure, all I can say is that if time events are constantly cycling over and over
meaning these things will happen many many times before we reach the end date.
, and according to Mckenna twords the end all history will cycle in a little under a minute, all you can do is try to recognise what may have taken place, because things are cycling so fast that the events that took place in the last 24 hrs might have been a whole millenia worth of events taking place. (which is why this is a hard concept to grasp for the majority of folks, IMHO)

the best we can do is to enjoy life, keep yourself healthy (mentally and physically (sp) and not get too wrapped up in all these worldly things, cause in the end we will return to our original state of pure energy.

Cheers
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I am a noob when it comes to this but if we are on the top of that awful huge drop..........what else is inferred till we get to 10/29/08? more stock/economic bad news?


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I am a noob when it comes to this but if we are on the top of that awful huge drop..........what else is inferred till we get to 10/29/08? more stock/economic bad news?


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Plus many natural disasters, maybe. If history repeats faster, we`ll se them increasing as well.
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Thanx Maya,

I really wish I knew for sure, all I can say is that if time events are constantly cycling over and over
meaning these things will happen many many times before we reach the end date.
, and according to Mckenna twords the end all history will cycle in a little under a minute, all you can do is try to recognise what may have taken place, because things are cycling so fast that the events that took place in the last 24 hrs might have been a whole millenia worth of events taking place. (which is why this is a hard concept to grasp for the majority of folks, IMHO)
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Actually it just describes what evolution is all about. As evolution progresses, things get more and more complex. Now the changes that required millions of years to manifest before will now require only a few minutes or even seconds.
More and faster complexity, this is actually what evolution is all about. The Timewave models just illustrates this perfectly.
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Recently, I receive this information in an email. Does this information fit into the topic timewave zero?

More and more frequently people are suggesting that time is speeding up. We hear people saying things like "I never seem to have enough time to get everything done anymore" or "where has the time gone to". The years are certainly flying by faster than ever and there is a scientific reason why time is speeding up.

There are also a number of reasons why we are changing so rapidly and it is all related to time speeding up. Human beings are becoming more consciously aware and people are being drawn towards spirituality and personal development in greater numbers than ever before. Why is this happening? Scientists discovered many years ago that the earth gives off a pulse. This pulse or frequency which has been likened to a heartbeat has been stable at approximately 7.8 cycles per second for thousands of years. However, since around the year 1980 the earth's heartbeat began to speed up.

It has currently been measured at 12 cycles per second but the most incredible thing is some scientists believe the earth will actually stop rotating when this pulse reaches 13 cycles per second.

When the earth stops rotating on its axis it is believed that it will remain still for around 3 days and then start spinning in the other direction. This will cause a reversal in the magnetic field around the earth but what will happen after this point is unclear.

At this point you are thinking one of two things. Either you are thinking this sounds pretty amazing or you simply cannot believe it. I'm kind of in the middle myself, I think it's hard to believe but I'm prepared to keep an open mind. Since I have become interested in spirituality I have seen wonderful things happen in my life and because of this I believe almost anything is possible. It is due to this increasing pulse rate that we feel as though time is speeding up. Why do we "feel" as though time is moving faster than it used to be? The reason is what we once perceived to be a period of 24 hours now feels like only 16 hours. Our clocks still move in seconds, minutes and hours and still click over a full day in 24 hours but due to the earths increased heartbeat, we perceive it to be only two thirds as long or a perception period of merely 16 hours. As far fetched as all this may seem, a number of reports suggest that we will reach this critical mass or zero point when the earth stops rotating, very soon.

It could well be in the next 5 years which happens to be at the end of the well documented and controversial Mayan Calendar which ends in the year 2012. Everything that is happening to people and our planet has been predicted in the Mayan Calendar.

From my research into this phenomena and the changes I can see happening in my body and mind as well as what I see happening around the globe, I believe as do many others that we are now moving into the 4th dimension.
The fourth dimension is where our thoughts will manifest almost instantly. This period of life on earth is where our good and bad karma will come back to us almost immediately.

This is why so many people, although perhaps unaware as to why, are becoming consciously aware and turning towards spirituality and away from materialism and greed. We are feeling the urge to not only do the right thing for our own body and mind but we are more willing to help others than ever before in history. The growth rate in awareness is off the charts. What once took years of reading, learning and watching to become more spiritually aware may now only take a year or even months.

There is so much more information than ever before on spirituality available in books and on the internet that is serving to accelerate our learning and helping us move away from the darkness of fear and towards the light of love.

As we feel the need to change our direction in life and release our bad habits we are starting to meet others who feel the same way and collectively we are helping each other. We are realizing that we are part of something greater than our individual self and this further accelerates our spiritual evolution. As time continues to speed up and as we move through the 4th dimension into the 5th dimension, when the earth stops rotating, our karma will come back to us in an instant.

Those of us still not aware of this changing world or not prepared to accept it and who feel they can get away with treating others, themselves or nature unjustly will receive their due karma.This will mean before we move into a better world and a period of love there will be much chaos as all the negative karma comes back to those individuals or collective groups. We are leaving the Age of Pieces, a destructive and oppressive period and moving into the Age of Aquarius, a period of love and peace.

This is a difficult time for many people as they struggle to come to terms with what is happening around them and what is happening to their mind and feelings.
The key is to let go and trust in this natural process of change and not to fight your feelings. As we move closer to the fifth dimension and as time speeds to an all time high, our thoughts, feelings and intentions will manifest into our reality in the twinkling of an eye.

What this means effectively is that those of us living with thoughts of fear and trepidation, will manifest just that into their lives causing untold pain.

However, those of us feeling happy and positive will manifest only love and joy into their lives. It's all about choice, and it's your choice to make, nobody can make it for you. How has this information changed my life? It hasn't really, although maybe in some ways it has. I'm usually a pretty positive person and this only serves to enforce the idea that I should remain positive at all times.

I try and take more notice of the people and events around me, this has made the relationships with the people I care about even stronger. I give more of my time and money to help those less fortunate than me.

I have started this website and thoroughly enjoy sharing information with others and receiving mostly positive feedback on the articles I write. Although, I still get up and go to work each day to earn, spend and save money and I still think about my plans for the future no matter what dimension I will be in. As we continue through this exciting period of history the entire world will change along with everyone in it. Eventually we will be forced to release our fears, there is no other way.

Fear will cease to exist and the greatest causes of fear, being time and money, will no longer be a part of our existence.

Can you imagine reality in a place without time and money? I must say it's most definitely a concept I find hard to fathom.

It's an exciting period to be alive so I'm going to go with the flow and enjoy the ride, I hope you'll join me.
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I would very much like to see the summer of love.
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the fourth dimension will be achieved before 2012 IMO, after 2012 we reach the 5th dimension.
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the fourth dimension will be achieved before 2012 IMO, after 2012 we reach the 5th dimension.
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I never really understood what it really means, but the 5th is the next one, isn't it?
1,2,3 = space
4 = time
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alien intervention will happen before 2008 ends IMO, or any other event that can get humanity into the spiritual path in one shot.
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Now, simple math tells you the following: 1945 + (4222/4306 * 67,3) is the year when the novelty of 1929 resonates in the current ~67,3-years (6*64*64-days) cycle, which is ~2011.

Now, this just the quality of novelty and doesn't mean that history actually repeats in the very same way.
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Approximately September 1, 2011.

Amazingly, if you enter October 28, 2011 (the end date given by Calleman/Lungold on their consciousness calendar) as the target date, and resonate back (red shift) in the software, you get 1939 - the start of WW II.