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Russia asks how 'accurate' are U.S electronic voting machines? "Alone two to three million votes were stolen in the 2000 election"

 
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Russia asks how 'accurate' are U.S electronic voting machines? "Alone two to three million votes were stolen in the 2000 election"
How accurate are U.S electronic voting machines?
The latest polls in the U.S. show Barrack Obama is stealing popularity from his rival John McCain after the two clashed in their final debate on Wednesday. But when it comes down to the vote itself, there are concerns the use of electronic machines may have some bearing on the outcome.

Electronic voting machines are widely used in American elections. But some think they make twisting election results easy.

Brad Friedman is a prominent U.S. blogger and investigative journalist. He spends much of his time trying to uncover the truth behind election fraud. He says it’s shocking to see how easy it is to hack into a voting machine.

“We're using these electronic voting machines all over the country that don't work, can be easily hacked, are not transparent,” he said. “And often they fail to turn on at all. We’re stuck with this crap for yet another election.”

Voting machines in the U.S. are mostly provided by four major private companies, and there have been allegations that the manufacturers are linked with the Republican party.

“The system will change when the Republicans get screwed by it,” Friedman believes.

The main election scandal took place in 2000. George W. Bush was said to have been ushered into the White House by the Supreme Court. Then, the Senate took action to try to make elections more transparent.

But little did it know that things would only get more controversial. An act was passed allocating almost $U.S. 4 billion of taxpayer’s money to be spent on new voting machinery.

And, during the last eight years, these machines have been creating more of a buzz than ever. Some sources put the number in the thousands when it comes to stolen votes in the last two U.S. Presidential elections.

But, there are also those who are convinced that the actual numbers could well be in the millions. And they believe that’s what let George Bush stick around for as long as he did.

“Two or three million were stolen at the 2000 election, four or five at the 2004 election, they are going to steal 6 or 7 million this election,” Thom Hartmann, a radio talk show host with more than 3 million listeners every week, says.

He is far from optimistic when it comes to how fair the upcoming presidential election is going to be.

For years now, computer scientists have been proving how easy it is to hack electronic voting machines.

Ed Felten – a Computer Science professor at Princeton University – says the machines are completely unreliable, and unless back-up paper ballots are returned, the fairness of results can never be checked or proved.

In an experiment, he discovered that it could take just one minute to change the outcome of the entire country’s election.

After numerous allegations, one voting-machine company changed its name. However, its machinery still continues to operate and will be used in the upcoming election.

A spokesman for Premier Election Solutions denied all the allegations against it.

“We are committed to providing products and services to ensure that our customers can conduct elections that are accurate, secure and fair to all. Premier does not back any individual candidate or party. We are politically neutral,” he said.

While some states have decertified the machines, many will still use them in the November vote.

Last year, a bill proposing a ban of all electronic voting by 2012 was proposed at the Senate. But this document will not be enforced by the time Americans cast their votes in an election just a few weeks away.

[link to www.russiatoday.com]
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Re: Russia asks how 'accurate' are U.S electronic voting machines? "Alone two to three million votes were stolen in the 2000 election"
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Re: Russia asks how 'accurate' are U.S electronic voting machines? "Alone two to three million votes were stolen in the 2000 election"
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The truth hurts, don't it.
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There's no excuse for these gross die-bold manipulations ...
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The truth hurts, don't it.
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trust me! i am last person to believe in the system, but to see a story of all places from russiatoday, which is a state run media outlet in russia, is a joke. russia is last country to be preaching their concerns on democracy.
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Re: Russia asks how 'accurate' are U.S electronic voting machines? "Alone two to three million votes were stolen in the 2000 election"
Russia probably wants to borrow some for the up coming elections in Georgia. chuckle
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Re: Russia asks how 'accurate' are U.S electronic voting machines? "Alone two to three million votes were stolen in the 2000 election"
LS I think Russia has changed since IMO, they aren't commies anymore.
Their meanwhile ended intervention in Georgia also proves they aren't out to take all countries including the eastern block back like many feared.
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Russia probably wants to borrow some for the up coming elections in Georgia. chuckle
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Lol!
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Re: Russia asks how 'accurate' are U.S electronic voting machines? "Alone two to three million votes were stolen in the 2000 election"
I saw problems with the electronic voting before they started doing it.

How can anyone tell at any given time what is going on inside the chips?

But there was a huge outcry against paper (punchcard) ballots. I know they had their problems but at least you had something that was more easy to verify. I realize that some were bad votes because people CAN'T FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS but the electronic chips are a license to steal.
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Re: Russia asks how 'accurate' are U.S electronic voting machines? "Alone two to three million votes were stolen in the 2000 election"
Wasn't Russia also addressing the 911 enigma in their state TV?

Maybe it's all the result of the ant-Russia campaign from the neocons
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There's no excuse for these gross die-bold manipulations ...
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Just like there is no excuse for mass ACORN manipulations...
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Re: Russia asks how 'accurate' are U.S electronic voting machines? "Alone two to three million votes were stolen in the 2000 election"
Just like there is no excuse for mass ACORN manipulations...
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Yup but you gotta compare the proportions!

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