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OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!

 
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Diameter 0.044 km
Mass 1.1e+08 kg
Energy 2.3e+00 MT




Calm down doomers , its only 44 meter (less than an half block long).
Its a big plane crash !! Nice fireworks !! but no Doom !!
Nothing to see !! move on !!


Half a block is pretty damned big, huh?
 Quoting: Turtles Know


big enough to take out a few thousand people, or more, depending on the impact site.
The only constant is change

The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into Siddhartha's soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

"One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it"
Siddhartha
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Re: OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!
Let someone be the first to do some GLP math.
November 22=11+11 so 11/22 is "interesting date."
Familiar with 11? ...the math goes on. Do do the sheeple.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 528244


11/22 is the anniversary of the assassination of John F. Kennedy! the 45th I believe. 4+5=9. So we have 9 11 11 11 1
7's!!!!!
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Let someone be the first to do some GLP math.
November 22=11+11 so 11/22 is "interesting date."
Familiar with 11? ...the math goes on. Do do the sheeple.



11/22 is the anniversary of the assassination of John F. Kennedy! the 45th I believe. 4+5=9. So we have 9 11 11 11 1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 217193


Oh shit. 9+7 1's...9 7 9+7=16=7
Also: the date alone without the number of years
11/22/2008 = 1+1+2+2+2+8=16=7!

Now this: 11/22/1963 1+1+2+2+1+9+6+3 =7!!!!!!

Would the G-7, Friendship 7, John Glenn at 77 in space (to name but a few)...would the 7 crowd pass up such a HUGE iconic date?

I think not.
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Re: OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!
Diameter 0.044 km
Mass 1.1e+08 kg
Energy 2.3e+00 MT

Calm down doomers , its only 44 meter (less than an half block long).
Its a big plane crash !! Nice fireworks !! but no Doom !!
Nothing to see !! move on !!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 529303

Aside from the fact that an airplane is a hollow aluminum structure, and plenty flimsy compared to similar sized objects, it's not the measurements that count so much here, it's the speed. If the object would totally vaporize before it hit earth, all that energy still has to go somewhere, and humans don't do well absorbing large amounts of energy, of any kind. Pressure waves, heat, seismic, other radiation.

Of course, at those speeds, it takes a fraction of a second to punch through the atmosphere, so even a smallish object of that size is barely going to be affected by friction with the atmosphere. And while a plane might cover the same area during a crash, a stone that size is a bit different deal. Luckily, it will hit it's target so fast nobody will likely realize it, they'll just be gone.
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Re: OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!
Diameter 0.044 km
Mass 1.1e+08 kg
Energy 2.3e+00 MT

Calm down doomers , its only 44 meter (less than an half block long).
Its a big plane crash !! Nice fireworks !! but no Doom !!
Nothing to see !! move on !!

Aside from the fact that an airplane is a hollow aluminum structure, and plenty flimsy compared to similar sized objects, it's not the measurements that count so much here, it's the speed. If the object would totally vaporize before it hit earth, all that energy still has to go somewhere, and humans don't do well absorbing large amounts of energy, of any kind. Pressure waves, heat, seismic, other radiation.

Of course, at those speeds, it takes a fraction of a second to punch through the atmosphere, so even a smallish object of that size is barely going to be affected by friction with the atmosphere. And while a plane might cover the same area during a crash, a stone that size is a bit different deal. Luckily, it will hit it's target so fast nobody will likely realize it, they'll just be gone.
 Quoting: falldown



According to the impact calculator, it will break up a little, but will still land in a relative small area, so most of the force will be felt.
The only constant is change

The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into Siddhartha's soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

"One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it"
Siddhartha
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Re: OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!
Excuse me, but doesn't it say that the minimum miss distance is .0009? And doesn't that equate to just over 350 feet? That is pretty much a sure hit, is it not?
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Re: OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!
Want2knowy your cool. :)
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Excuse me, but doesn't it say that the minimum miss distance is .0009? And doesn't that equate to just over 350 feet? That is pretty much a sure hit, is it not?
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Sorry, I just figured out my error. Thanks anyway.
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Re: OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!
but if you go to [link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov] ... it gives you different numbers for that date, whats the deal with that?
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Re: OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!
go to

[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]

the numbers are different, much different
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Its a pimple on the ass of a mite on the flea of a dog.
 Quoting: Kanigo2



ummm unless your house is the impact area ...

that would be one hell of a pimple on ass of mite on dog for you
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* please read "The Creature from Jykell Island" short easy read on how federal reserve was founded... Then follow that up with the movie "America: Freedom to Fascism "
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Thread: 2008 TT26 Oct 23, 2008

I believe i tried to bring this up last night and no one seemed to care....

*sigh*

always a bridesmaid and never a bride... poo
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Thread: 2008 TT26 Oct 23, 2008

I believe i tried to bring this up last night and no one seemed to care....

*sigh*

always a bridesmaid and never a bride... poo
 Quoting: my thread 529322



Damn, I have the opposite problem.
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Re: OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!
ok, back from my emergency midnight toilet repair...i see the doom is still feeling the love.... im not sure if the nasa geek was just worried about mom in miami beach because of potential waves, or if he figured the impact point would be florida... miami beach is about 5 feet above sealevel, so if you dropped that chunk of rock from a 747 it might flood her house.....like i said, im about 8 miles inland, and on the 4th floor of a pretty sturdy building, so im not too worried....of course, if it center punched the building, id be fucked, but at 8 miles per second, i wouldnt have alot of time to worry about it.....
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According to the impact calculator, it will break up a little, but will still land in a relative small area, so most of the force will be felt.
 Quoting: Want2knowy

Part of the problem though, is we really don't know what happens once things are over a certain size, simply because few really dangerous ones have hit since people figured all this out. Aside from some sheeting, it's always possible a large enough object would simply distribute the heat internally, and otherwise be unaffected during it's brief passage through the atmosphere. We can guess, we can look at past impacts and estimate, but until we see one coming, and can watch it arrive, and examine it's effects, it's guessing at best.

Which really isn't all that comforting, for some reason...
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ok, back from my emergency midnight toilet repair...
 Quoting: ambiguity unlimited

don't ask, don't ask, don't ask...
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Thread: 2008 TT26 Oct 23, 2008

I believe i tried to bring this up last night and no one seemed to care....

*sigh*

always a bridesmaid and never a bride... poo
 Quoting: my thread 529322

wrong rock....tt26 is going to pass 10 times as far .009 AU, this one 2004 xk3 is .0009, only 1/3 of a lunar orbit...one tenth the distance..... my rock is doomier than yours.....
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ok, back from my emergency midnight toilet repair...

don't ask, don't ask, don't ask...
 Quoting: falldown

rotted out lift arm on the fill valve.... sorry it's so boring.... ill try to make my adventures more exciting in the future....
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Re: OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!
wow, i show back up, and everyone bales.... i washed my hands, i swear......
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wow, i show back up, and everyone bales.... i washed my hands, i swear......
 Quoting: ambiguity unlimited

lol...it's friday night, heavy duty physics and <burp> partying don't always mix too well, after a while...
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Thread: 2008 TT26 Oct 23, 2008

I believe i tried to bring this up last night and no one seemed to care....

*sigh*

always a bridesmaid and never a bride... poo
 Quoting: my thread 529322


Actually, you brought up another NEO, totally unrelated to this one.
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Re: OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!
SO WAHT
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Want2knowy your cool. :)
 Quoting: aznwarlord



Why thank you. I usually am naked on this forum (posts as AC), but it was Friday night, and I thought, lets put the 'ol AV on, dress it up a little..lol
The only constant is change

The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into Siddhartha's soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

"One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it"
Siddhartha
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Re: OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!
go to

[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]

the numbers are different, much different
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525322



Interesting. I think they are showing nominal misss distance here. What this thread is based on, is Minimal miss distance. I always use this link to find NEO's, as you can manipulate your search.

[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
The only constant is change

The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into Siddhartha's soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

"One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it"
Siddhartha
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Re: OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!
According to the impact calculator, it will break up a little, but will still land in a relative small area, so most of the force will be felt.

Part of the problem though, is we really don't know what happens once things are over a certain size, simply because few really dangerous ones have hit since people figured all this out. Aside from some sheeting, it's always possible a large enough object would simply distribute the heat internally, and otherwise be unaffected during it's brief passage through the atmosphere. We can guess, we can look at past impacts and estimate, but until we see one coming, and can watch it arrive, and examine it's effects, it's guessing at best.

Which really isn't all that comforting, for some reason...
 Quoting: falldown



So true. Its all specualtion at best. We can use all our refference points to determine how this object will react, but in the end, its gonna do what its gonna do, we can only watch it play out.
The only constant is change

The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into Siddhartha's soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

"One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it"
Siddhartha
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Re: OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!
wow, i show back up, and everyone bales.... i washed my hands, i swear......
 Quoting: ambiguity unlimited



LOL, the sandman sprinkled his magic dust in my eyes, and I had to catch a few zzzz's
The only constant is change

The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into Siddhartha's soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

"One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it"
Siddhartha
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Re: OMG!!!! Nov 22 serious doom!!!
Check out this link from 2004, it's the same rock.

Toutatis is about 2.9 miles long and 1.5 miles wide (4.6 by 2.4 kilometers). It's a whopper.

[link to www.space.com]

It's passing way closer than 2004 but with no fuss.
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my link got crunched.

add this to the space.com bit scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_040503.html
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Panic over, I had the wrong rock.
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my link got crunched.

add this to the space.com bit scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_040503.html
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 528060



Your first link worked. I saw Toutatis on the charts, but the Nominal and Minimal distance are the same, and relatively far away from us. XK3, on the other had, has a huge variance between the miss distance, which leads me to believe, they just ar not sure yet.
The only constant is change

The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into Siddhartha's soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

"One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it"
Siddhartha

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