The actual New World Order that is here

Hey, great post Agent!

One little point of dissension:

Ancient ethnocentrism is how the world has been organized for thousands of years, and its basis is deception of the majority by the extremely small minority.

This is only what the losing side thought. The winning side simply exist in a mindspace which ordinary humans cannot survive long in, though they are invited to try. Real strength is not based on the oppression and homogenization of enough 'little people' to build yourself a pyramid that can support your own luxurious existence. It is based on inner strength and, actually Darkness. You contain it, and do not allow it to express too much in the world. Thus, you sow what you reap: you get to avoid bad and stressful circumstances, like working for a living, in your own life.

As for killing the entire planet and all lifeforms on it with the push of a button: I invite the usual gang of idiots to give this a try. They all happen to know who I am and, yes, are, as you said, watching what is written. They have rather the fixation with the oversignificance of Mercury, which rules minds and says it is really important, as children are wont to claim of themselves. The real question pertinent in such a scenario is, of course: then what happens next? Everybody is killed, planet blow up, and then?

Well, for a start, *they* wouldn't be around, most of them. They've put all their minds and souls into technology you see. Sucked dry. No souls. Empty. So we invite them, most cordially and respectfully, to push as many buttons as they can get their hot little trigger-happy fingers on: it is the only responsible thing to do! This is because it would be good for the enviroment. That is because they would no longer be alive to finance its pollution on a massive scale through their approach to industry.

Yes, I am a sarcastic old bastard, but I've seen a lot, and am fed up of these full-of-hot-air young flashy know-it-alls claiming they are somehow significant because they've got buttons to push and lots of shiny toys which go "Booom!!". It allows them to think they are unduly special and show of to their friends and to others younger than they are who are impressed by that sort of thing. We find that distasteful, or I do personally at least, hence I would kindly request them to "show us what they got and what they can do" or shut up.

And yes, nuclear powers of the world, I am most specifically talking to, except for France and Israel who are more educated and cultured and nowhere near as boastful and full of their own importance as some other idiots I could and probably will mention in due course, ahem Voight.

One of The Originals, So-za by pronounciation, of Santa Cruz, Bolivia; currently on holiday in Cyprus, extended leave of vacation in the old world, antecedent to looking up an old friend, or possibly merely good past acquaintance.

Hey, great post Agent!

One little point of dissension:

Ancient ethnocentrism is how the world has been organized for thousands of years, and its basis is deception of the majority by the extremely small minority.

This is only what the losing side thought. The winning side simply exist in a mindspace which ordinary humans cannot survive long in, though they are invited to try. Real strength is not based on the oppression and homogenization of enough 'little people' to build yourself a pyramid that can support your own luxurious existence. It is based on inner strength and, actually Darkness. You contain it, and do not allow it to express too much in the world. Thus, you sow what you reap: you get to avoid bad and stressful circumstances, like working for a living, in your own life.

As for killing the entire planet and all lifeforms on it with the push of a button: I invite the usual gang of idiots to give this a try. They all happen to know who I am and, yes, are, as you said, watching what is written. They have rather the fixation with the oversignificance of Mercury, which rules minds and says it is really important, as children are wont to claim of themselves. The real question pertinent in such a scenario is, of course: then what happens next? Everybody is killed, planet blow up, and then?

Well, for a start, *they* wouldn't be around, most of them. They've put all their minds and souls into technology you see. Sucked dry. No souls. Empty. So we invite them, most cordially and respectfully, to push as many buttons as they can get their hot little trigger-happy fingers on: it is the only responsible thing to do! This is because it would be good for the enviroment. That is because they would no longer be alive to finance its pollution on a massive scale through their approach to industry.

Yes, I am a sarcastic old bastard, but I've seen a lot, and am fed up of these full-of-hot-air young flashy know-it-alls claiming they are somehow significant because they've got buttons to push and lots of shiny toys which go "Booom!!". It allows them to think they are unduly special and show of to their friends and to others younger than they are who are impressed by that sort of thing. We find that distasteful, or I do personally at least, hence I would kindly request them to "show us what they got and what they can do" or shut up.

And yes, nuclear powers of the world, I am most specifically talking to, except for France and Israel who are more educated and cultured and nowhere near as boastful and full of their own importance as some other idiots I could and probably will mention in due course, ahem Voight.

One of The Originals, So-za by pronounciation, of Santa Cruz, Bolivia; currently on holiday in Cyprus, extended leave of vacation in the old world, antecedent to looking up an old friend, or possibly merely good past acquaintance.



you know maybe i am old fashioned.. but i have learned by listening to Holy Spirit since 1979 many things...

there is ancient rivalry between dark skinned people and white people involved in all that has gone on

this racism situation also MUST BE RESOLVED IN THIS TRANSITION

no more flip flops (taking turns oppressing each other)

u all better get ready for God to personally STEP into all this AS A FLESH MAN - and DEAL with your fears of an 'antichrist figure'

This sounds like a one world government. That is not honest. Anarchy is freedom and freedom is honesty.

Well, thank-you for the reply youngster! If you could enlighten me on the following point:

The Doomsday tech already exists, yes? Even on the basis of nuclear weapons alone, though it would take many of them, this world has on her surface enough firepower to take herself out. We do, of course, presume that the foreigners who control the buttons to such things are highly responsible individuals who would never use it to harm others or the world at large for their own profit or, more likely, other reasons. It is of course ludicrous to believe that all, or nearly all, rich and influential people globally are mostly on the same side and joined at the hip in a lattice of interconnecting groups and societies.

Thus, the question is: what difference would it make if yet another group, or some other non-aligned faction also got their hot little hands on similar tech?

Soza.


Less factions will develop the technology, not more. Only one faction, the new global government, will develop the technology.

Op what is your thought on CERN? Just curious.


I think you don't know where the real cutting edge technology is developed.

I genuinely think (but I don’t know) CERN is a hollywood production for the dumbed down scientists of our world.

When you create a world based on deception, you have to go all out in that production. All walks of life have to appear that they are legitimate; the matrix.

If a scientist discovers something he should not know, there are plenty of methods to deal with that.

You talk about old to new order. You talk about the new honest order.
That does not compute as you are simply replacing one set of rules for another.
The perpetrators behind the old order were always dishonest and deceitful or just plain evil to be blunt. Changing from ethnocentricism to technology paradigm (as you put it), while sounding like impressive concepts to the gullible, amounts to a new name for the scales on the same creature. These are and never were the scales of Divine Justice or Divine Law. No matter which way you manipulate the virtual picture to change the attention of the viewer, unless you follow Divine Universal Law and the Law Of Love, you are merely posturing and trying another angle of deception. I see that poster Yolgnu is one of the few here that actually got the concept that you are offering with your technology and it’s darker implications.

The clue to the complete invalidity of this concept is that you mention Bush and this summit and how they (the so-called elite…actually mafia style gangsters and soulless sock puppets) would have some bearing on the outcome as to their decision to use their weapons of human and earthly destruction or not. They will have no decision in the reality that is approaching and you are obviously not in that loop.
The Real New World that is approaching is not of the order that you and your fellows are talking about and no matter how much you try and cloak your new order in the guise of good and non-destructive vs. the old you are sadly mistaken. The very word ‘order’ in the new world denotes hierarchy and control by an elite and as with the past an unseen hand in the puppets. Nothing will change in this fake new world order except the technology and the outward appearance of some things. With the technology comes even greater deception and the ability to control and remove those that do not fit into this new world tech paradigm with absolute ease. The word honesty is just a word that means nothing without actual intent. Look at all the ‘honest’ politicians that were voted in, not to mention all the ‘honest’ religious leaders leading their flock astray.
Hand on the bible and all that.

You use the word elite a lot and talk a lot about secret meetings for the few to decide the outcomes of the many. Manipulating the fate of the many Good Souls of this world.
The real New World Creation that is coming I am pleased to inform you does not include any participation from Bush and his summits and secret bilderberger meetings, Council on Foreign Relations, Tri-Lateral Commission, world banks and all the other secret elite sponsored and controlled societies. It also does not include contribution or participation from the unseen hands and your secretive superiors that think they are in control of the reigns. The Reign is Over. The concept of elite is over.

To put it into basic terms – compare what you are talking about changing 1 to 2 is the same as the plan with the financial system. Use a fake and self serving (to a few) enslaving system and push it to the limits that you can before it starts to crack or fold in on itself and people start to get wise to the deception en masse, then play the good guys and step in to replace this evil fragmented system with another bigger consolidated evil world system that is even more controlled and devious than before using this technology that you speak of. All you are taking about really is damage control and final implementation of the same scam.

You (OP) say something similar to Fulford in that the elites like R’child and Rck’feller will not lose everything and will be as happy with the new system as with the old – a win win situation as f’ford says. WRONG. Good Souls/Power of the People of the same source Creator WIN and the others LOSE i.e dig their own graves/tombs as they have been doing for millennia. You say that they can kill everyone at the push of a button. You are wrong. They will not be allowed to play out any of these fantasies. The fact that you mention it shows the intent in you to provide fear and a thinly veiled warning. If they try it, it will become a big eye opener as to who really controls these realms.

By The Divine Will and Law the GAME IS OVER - there is no more re-designing and changing around of the pawns and puppets in the same drama to suit – as with the US elections. There will be no more place in the New World for elites and bloodline preference and chosen ones and hierarchical control systems of one group over another whether based on ethnicity or simply technological power.
ALL BULLSHIT.
ALL GOING TO CHANGE.

One last thing to the OP – you seem to have been very impressed with this simple display of steering a hurricane. That is very simplistic and rather old. Would you be even more impressed by an earthquake or other much more impressive celestial events? This is just a tip of the iceberg in terms of the magic tricks available to the real players (not you). That means that we are living in a world run secretly by magicians or so it would appear to most people.
That also means that words and concepts based on politics and technological agreements on weapons systems and dooms day devices is completely and fully INVALID.
The power behind the powers that wanted to be is being removed. That is the only real solution. The surface superficial solutions are just microcosmic specs of nonsense in the big picture no matter how you twist it with the manipulation of language and concepts to try and make it manifest in the mass consciousness. That is why your theories are invalid as they still hide the truth about who is really the unseen controlling power.
Without that in the open everything else is invalid.

As with the huge promising (lying) political speeches before elections. It all amounts to absolutely NOTHING once the decisions have been made out of the ears of the lowly masses and the Power of the People has been deferred to the power of the black magicians.
Screw the new world order. It’s simply a NEW WORD ORDER. Yes ‘word’ order. Deception by words (and technology).
The new world odour stinks. You can keep it.

There is a much more beautiful and Divinely Just future awaiting, that is simply a return to spiritual awareness and what we once were and Really Are before the dark ones stepped in with their agenda.
ALL CHANGE NOW.

Yes, WL1, excellent rendition! Of course, I realize it is highly unlikely that you or I would ever possibly want to talk to one another in society but I must not fail to stipulate that Light and Dark are two sides of a three-sided coin (all coins are three-sided... if you look carefully). You cannot 1 without the other two, nor both of them without the third.

I am pleased to have helped you to use your eyes which you were probably ignorant of to a degree before my timely intervention in matters pertaining to your own body.

This is of course a metaphorical illustration of a philosophical concept pertaining to the ultimate nature of reality but, as I recall, Agent says his specialty no less was sensing out the probably philosophical directions forward. Thus, we could ask for his wholly amateur but very well-meaning (in the sense of "self-serving") input on this philosophical question regarding the nature of Light, Dark, The Universe and the number 3.

Regards,
Soza.

will the chains that bound hemp from being used to save the planet be broken by the "honest" new world?

1. i think what op is saying is if all the people sign onto the idea of a new world order that would snuff out the bad one that was planned, that people would be relieved and go about more natural human living... within about 20-40 years the world could be very pleasant place to live


2. i maintain, however, that we gotta let God help us, bring Him into it so He can weave His Kingdom into it, He also had plans for a new heaven and new earth.

3. i will tell you all this, that God is behind what the OP is talking about


1. Yes

2. I replace the word nature for God. People can believe what they want regarding this. You could define "god" as all that is good and true in the universe. Thus natural people need believe nothing and can still converse with people that want to take the ancient texts as the only real truth.

3. Nature is behind what I am talking about, yes.

This sounds like a one world government. That is not honest. Anarchy is freedom and freedom is honesty. I have to call BS on this because unless thier is a negative cleansing this objective could never happen, get rid of a monetary system and get rid of organizations like Kroll and Monsonta and maybe such a movement maybe possible.

Rense, Fulford, Jones, GCN, even Linsey Williams are part of it. I will say it again, its not what you know its why you know it. Technology is humans weakness due to that is still supresses spirituality. This is a game, the elites know this and they play accordingly. This does not exist nor does it matter.

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you know maybe i am old fashioned.. but i have learned by listening to Holy Spirit since 1979 many things...

there is ancient rivalry between dark skinned people and white people involved in all that has gone on

this racism situation also MUST BE RESOLVED IN THIS TRANSITION

no more flip flops (taking turns oppressing each other)

u all better get ready for God to personally STEP into all this AS A FLESH MAN - and DEAL with your fears of an 'antichrist figure'


sigh,
You are the creator and YOU wrote this.
And no, I dont expect you to understand.

so basically Agent, you are here to tell us that there is nothing to worry about, unless we are terrorists?

Well ill tell you what, i has a nuke in my basement, in the center of NY, and i will press the botton, if you rothschild puppeteer of yours wont provide a trillion american dollars. You have 24 hours.

I don't choose to sign people up or not. You choose that for yourself.

Just carefully speak with people and proceed along with discussions on how the world can be organized in a better way.

At the level of elite, it really is like the Jedi/Sith relationship. The Sith are always there...they must be suppressed and things we do help to support the Jedi paradigm which is the honest world order.

I hope they chose to communicate with you directly some day so you can become more significantly illuminated like me. Before they did this with me, I always saw it as "them." and I was unsure regarding the agenda. But now I see it as "us," and I realize that I help make the agenda.

No problem. Zap.

You just died by us pushing a button. Any point on the planet can be "electrocuted" instantly.

Now, if we don't know where you are...that can be a problem, but since you communicated with us, you already gave up your position no matter how many precautions you think you took.

Special request:

I am going to ask the elite to do something for us; to show that they are listening.

What do you want them to do?

It must be something that won't hurt anybody and something simple that won't be too unusual or noticed by anyone.

I think they might do this to create a greater state of enlightenment on this thread in order to increase the energy exerted towards the honest world order. I won't suggest anything, I want you to suggest it. We'll have a vote and go with the most popular one. I will help guide the selection because it can't be just anything. I have a skill on what types of things are OK.

Special request:

I am going to ask the elite to do something for us; to show that they are listening.

What do you want them to do?

It must be something that won't hurt anybody and something simple that won't be too unusual or noticed by anyone.

I think they might do this to create a greater state of enlightenment on this thread in order to increase the energy exerted towards the honest world order. I won't suggest anything, I want you to suggest it. We'll have a vote and go with the most popular one. I will help guide the selection because it can't be just anything. I have a skill on what types of things are OK.

Agent,

Your proposals are most interesting and appeal to the inquiring mind; albeit in an uncanny fashion, and much to the contrary of the normal discussion and adjudication of fact that takes place in these forums. The beauty you speak of is embodied in the logic of all humans who strive to acquire a rational understanding of the world - indeed, the outlay of any global effort would undoubtedly have it's foundation placed upon fundamental reinforcing constructs. This directly implies a shift from contemporary academic analysis and rather pedantic, seething methods of eliciting conformity among those who inhabit the earth.

The debate surrounding who construes the laws of uniformity among citizens of each country, and regarding those who are the aforementioned distributors of power is rather meaningless from a logically-consistent standpoint. The effective remaining question is, why would the original attempts to "rule" be disregarded come the time when the global hierarchy is conducive to alteration? Again, your proposal is consistent in this framework however complete it may seem (I have dealt directly with this question on a number of occaisions through academic societies and a plethora of almost overwhelming, enlightening discussions over the course of the past twelve months).

The most important human trait, both to be acquired on an individual level an as a whole is to understand. Without this drive or desire, the individual effectively becomes a null script in world with set parameters, and carries out his or her loops actions in tread with a finite sequence. In other words, if the individual ceases to attempt to understand, he or she also ceases to exist. Forget God, forget Morality, or any other other concepts that transcend the scope of our current understanding. Effort must be made to reacquire the desire to understand what we are before we can set forth any type of logical discretion on the matter.

You may question my opinion - and it is simply that - but it is an opinion that is fraught with the hallmarks of striving diligently to be logically consistent with the axiomatic assumptions I have adopted. My academic background is in both the Mathematical and Physical sciences as well much adjunct Economic theory. With this being said I can honestly say I understand what it means to truly know something, how careful you must be in exacting your assumptions, and how diligent you must be in perfecting your method. As is the case, I am often quite distraught by the claims made by individuals who visit this forum and discredit the relevance as a whole of the topics which tend to make headway in places like this.

A simple tenet that must be understood by all who wish to secure their future is that humanity, as a whole, does not exist in any meaningful sense on the physical plane. The general disarray among members of the general populace stems from their inability to conceptualize matters abstractly - it is nothing more than this. How is it possible for humanity in any contemporary sense to be governed by concepts we understand? Consider this for a moment, as it is somewhat a counterintuitive initially but rapidly gains traction. Humanity will not allow it self to be successfully governed by concepts which may be misconstrued by miscreants, of which there are many, as these miscreats will simply divert the wellspring of human enginuity in their favor.

There exists no such thing as the right to life, as the concept is not properly defined in any well-ordered framework. The egotism of humanity and misrepresentation of the natural world will eventually be realized, and what will follow is that the sole purpose of mankind existence is to understand - to provide justification of our own existence through contributing to the universal symmetric framework we have aptly named the cosmos. Every individual has been given the opportunity of realize their own existence; most never do, but those who do flourish and paint the canvas that is human history in an almost magical, enthralling single motion. I am friendly towards the ideal that we can institute a global order as has been supposed, and believe me there is no shortage of discussion on this topic if you understand who wields the intellectual capacity to make such judgements.

However not until the world has recognized the importance of understanding as an ideal, and those who are noncompliant have been surgically removed from interfering with the undisputable natural order will we comprehend the reason for our being.

Special request:

I am going to ask the elite to do something for us; to show that they are listening.

What do you want them to do?

It must be something that won't hurt anybody and something simple that won't be too unusual or noticed by anyone.

I think they might do this to create a greater state of enlightenment on this thread in order to increase the energy exerted towards the honest world order. I won't suggest anything, I want you to suggest it. We'll have a vote and go with the most popular one. I will help guide the selection because it can't be just anything. I have a skill on what types of things are OK.

OP, to be honest half of me is scared of a technological paradigm. Would I be chipped into some vast network with my thoughts open to some controllers? As if in a hive? I do not wish for humanity to end up like the Borg of science fiction? We would no longer be individuals.

Could you explain more about this honest world order based on technology please? How would it be implemented? How do you envisage humanity being honest with one another after millenia of cheating, scheming and lying?

I have read Orwell`s 1984 and I don`t wish any part of that. You seem to be enamoured with this.



The world you are talking about would be the world of deception in it's full manifestation.

The honest world order is the other way we can do it. It's a much more beautiful world order and the elite like beauty.

Special request:

I am going to ask the elite to do something for us; to show that they are listening.

What do you want them to do?

It must be something that won't hurt anybody and something simple that won't be too unusual or noticed by anyone.

I think they might do this to create a greater state of enlightenment on this thread in order to increase the energy exerted towards the honest world order. I won't suggest anything, I want you to suggest it. We'll have a vote and go with the most popular one. I will help guide the selection because it can't be just anything. I have a skill on what types of things are OK.

OP, tell your elites to shoot a lighting from the sky near my house.

Ask the elites to make a picture in the night sky out of stars