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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 527655
10/19/2008 8:22 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

i take this thread has a very good book



anyone has a suggestion? This thread will eventually die and i want to read more.
reedbecker
User ID: 530352
10/19/2008 8:23 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

1. Reed: Houston/Spring Texas near the woodlands. Earthquake, like 3-4 magnitude, or a UFO that makes the news. The UFO is much easier and they will likely pick that one over the quake. That would be a what and where and that should be sufficient to convince you guys that they are listening.

In fact, I see no reason why the elite can't do a series of things. I won't make the request here, i'll go to my other place and see if they will do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772


I'm fine with either, and I can understand why the UFO would be easier. I'm free pretty much all week (job hunting, yah...) so in the next few days is good with me. It doesn't have to be front page news, but I would like my girlfriend to see it in person. Maybe even a ride....

;)

peace - reeder
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 8:28 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

or tell em to write an article in wall st, or some other major paper, and to put a secret message for all of us..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 530500


No.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 530500
10/19/2008 8:30 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

or tell em to write an article in wall st, or some other major paper, and to put a secret message for all of us..


No.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772


then wtf?

Your elite cant do shit it seems
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 530500
10/19/2008 8:30 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

tell your elite bitchez, to send me a free hooker
Ron Jeremy
User ID: 519055
10/19/2008 8:30 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Here is a suggestion.
Chemtrail a name in a decided city so only certain people looking will expect it and understand what they are looking at.

Ohh and you never responded to my last two retorts.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 530500
10/19/2008 8:31 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

tell your elite bitchez, to send me a free hooker
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 530336
10/19/2008 8:32 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Interesting thread, OP. A number of good posts here.


"Honest" implies truth. How much 'truth' is held back?


On the 'humanity' side of things, increasing inter-connectedness has put a strain on the environment, governments, and people in general. The result has been an increased concentration of wealth and power to the detriment of the larger whole. Wouldn't a concerted decentralization away from urban centers while maintaining connectivity to the more rural areas afford the better of both?


There are religious issues, for better or worse, that needs fulfillment so that these matters can lead to a common future. There are elements within Christianity that lead to the idea of a 'second Pentecost' that might not contradict elements of Christ's return. However, Islam awaits the 12th Imam and Judaism awaits the Messiah. Let Mahmoud be however he wants to be, and let 'Christ consciousness' suffice for Judaism and Christianity. Bottom line, there would be no acceptance of an 'honest world order' short of the detested NWO without accommodating Fulfillment of those Texts.


Without a dramatic change away from the current paradigm of profit motivation, there is no viable alternative as a social motivating force. Are TPTB willing to give up some of the undisclosed technology for the betterment of mankind in general, irrespective of the political repercussions? And if this is an 'honest world order,' as others have noted, those in control will remain in power having consolidated resources, rather than the individualistic approach of decentralization, we have the same candy in a different wrapper.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 524226
10/19/2008 8:32 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

It must be something that won't hurt anybody and something simple that won't be too unusual or noticed by anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772


Since we are heading towards a "honest" world order, why don't you ask them to be honest regarding 9/11, and other ritualistic killings?

Would they be willing to step up the plate? Will they come clean regarding all the atrocities that they have committed and the lies that they use to have us deceived, while hiding the truth that could be perceived?

This is the problem when dealing with psychopaths. They will lie, lie and lie, and still pretend to use "honesty".

"Another characteristic of psychopaths is compulsive lying, deception, manipulation and so on, hence a questionnaire cannot be relied entirely upon when assessing a psychopath, as a questionnaire relies on the honesty of the participant and psychopaths are not honest."

[link to www.itutorials.co.uk]

How can one trust these pathetic beings?

They even blame us if we are "enough of a fool" to believe in them, as it is a natural tendency in "normal", healthy people.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 8:34 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

1. Reed: Houston/Spring Texas near the woodlands. Earthquake, like 3-4 magnitude, or a UFO that makes the news. The UFO is much easier and they will likely pick that one over the quake. That would be a what and where and that should be sufficient to convince you guys that they are listening.

In fact, I see no reason why the elite can't do a series of things. I won't make the request here, i'll go to my other place and see if they will do it.


I'm fine with either, and I can understand why the UFO would be easier. I'm free pretty much all week (job hunting, yah...) so in the next few days is good with me. It doesn't have to be front page news, but I would like my girlfriend to see it in person. Maybe even a ride....

;)

peace - reeder
 Quoting: reedbecker


Don't count on you seeing it live; if you do it would be luck. It would just make news in that area... The news story is the key to an event.

That's how it's done.

One of the events they did for me was live with news helicopers and FBI trucks across the street from where I worked then, granted, but it's not like I expected that etc...they just did it. I know why they did it and it was to get my attention, indeed. It worked.

They might not do any of this...but I wanted to give it a shot since they did so much for me over the past couple of months. I don't know if I'm allowed to include others or not in the event enlightenment. They really haven't clarified things like that. Very limited communication...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 8:35 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

or tell em to write an article in wall st, or some other major paper, and to put a secret message for all of us..


No.


then wtf?

Your elite cant do shit it seems
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 530500


They can do any damn thing...but I just think that is stupid.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 8:35 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

tell your elite bitchez, to send me a free hooker
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 530500


No. I'm going to regret asking for requests...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 8:37 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Here is a suggestion.
Chemtrail a name in a decided city so only certain people looking will expect it and understand what they are looking at.

Ohh and you never responded to my last two retorts.
 Quoting: Ron Jeremy


We can't all see the chemtrails. It needs to be something that will make a news story so we can all go to a link on the internet and read about it.

Sorry I didn't clarify that before.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 8:39 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

It must be something that won't hurt anybody and something simple that won't be too unusual or noticed by anyone.
 Quoting: OP


Please note when I said, "won't be too unusual or noticed by anyone," I meant noticed in a way that makes them think it is unusual. It needs to make the news. That is very important.
reedbecker
User ID: 530352
10/19/2008 8:39 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

tell your elite bitchez, to send me a free hooker


No. I'm going to regret asking for requests...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772



On sites like this, you are lucky if you squeeze out a receptive 10%. The rest is usually annoying, not thought out, or just plain ignorant.

I suspect that's why the "Elite" have felt ok with the way they have ruled until now.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 530500
10/19/2008 8:40 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

ok, heres a good suggestion , make Britney pregnant again, and take her baby from her so she starts to go crazy again. I just love to see her crying .
Ron Jeremy
User ID: 519055
10/19/2008 8:43 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Here is a suggestion.
Chemtrail a name in a decided city so only certain people looking will expect it and understand what they are looking at.

Ohh and you never responded to my last two retorts.


We can't all see the chemtrails. It needs to be something that will make a news story so we can all go to a link on the internet and read about it.

Sorry I didn't clarify that before.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772

Then how about a miracle like, a old dead body found or how about Chuck Baldwin winning the presidency.
mpnsci
User ID: 530506
10/19/2008 8:44 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Agent,

A distinct auroral display above Toronto, or a handshake is all I require.

Regards,
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 8:45 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Interesting thread, OP. A number of good posts here.


1. "Honest" implies truth. How much 'truth' is held back?


2. On the 'humanity' side of things, increasing inter-connectedness has put a strain on the environment, governments, and people in general. The result has been an increased concentration of wealth and power to the detriment of the larger whole. Wouldn't a concerted decentralization away from urban centers while maintaining connectivity to the more rural areas afford the better of both?


3. There are religious issues, for better or worse, that needs fulfillment so that these matters can lead to a common future. There are elements within Christianity that lead to the idea of a 'second Pentecost' that might not contradict elements of Christ's return. However, Islam awaits the 12th Imam and Judaism awaits the Messiah. Let Mahmoud be however he wants to be, and let 'Christ consciousness' suffice for Judaism and Christianity. Bottom line, there would be no acceptance of an 'honest world order' short of the detested NWO without accommodating Fulfillment of those Texts.


4. Without a dramatic change away from the current paradigm of profit motivation, there is no viable alternative as a social motivating force. Are TPTB willing to give up some of the undisclosed technology for the betterment of mankind in general, irrespective of the political repercussions? And if this is an 'honest world order,' as others have noted, those in control will remain in power having consolidated resources, rather than the individualistic approach of decentralization, we have the same candy in a different wrapper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 530336


1. The details of how to make the dangerous technology is not told to anyone but those to develop it. That is the one thing that is controlled globally. Other things are controlled locally.

2. With the new tech available this won't be as relevant, but we can live however we want.

3. There are more direct ways to deal with the religiously brainwashed. Direct discussion of known vs belief in the corrupt forum, at the correct time is a method. I have laid out a plan to the elite that would accomplish all of this over a couple of months. They may do it...or not. Wait and see.

4. The existing elite will not remain in their positions of tyranny.
WL1
User ID: 364634
10/19/2008 8:46 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

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There is a much more beautiful and Divinely Just future awaiting, that is simply a return to spiritual awareness and what we once were and Really Are before the dark ones stepped in with their agenda.
ALL CHANGE NOW.


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calm down a second

can your paradigm allow the OP's paradigm to blend in smoothly with yours?

is there a way in your paradigm for the Creator, to INCLUDE the peoples who WORKED for the top most-evil people?

the OP's idea is to open a way for the people involved in the hierarchies to get out of them and be 'saved'. do you care about these people?

GOD DOES

so, i agree with most of what you wrote, it is accurate, God's plans are unfolding right now... but also open your eyes to see how the OP's ideas fit right well into what God wants to do... to INCLUDE everyone

let God deal with the most-evil ones Himself Personally...

i like what you said.. but we have to deal with our own cynicism... or approach things more on 'the up and up' believe the best about it, to allow it to unfold for GOOD
 Quoting: Me114

I am quite calm....then and now. Your idea of calm might be quite different from mine.

You must have seen something in the op's words that I didn't as I don't see any potential or desire in this new model for a collapse of hierarchical structure (or an allowance for those that wish to get out to do so). If the elite that have benefited from the blood of innocents in the old structure are allowed to continue on in some similar form, even if operating through a fairer more controlled system (I don't believe honesty is a good word as it implies honor - honor among thieves - silent handshakes and winks on the side - honor in appearance only for the world theatre - cynical you may think but...old dogs ...same old tricks.), then the hierarchy remains. They will always maintain that the sheep need to be led and will do what is best for them even if it means culling a billion or three. Maybe they will tell the people more honestly when they begin culling the useless feeders. Honesty doesn't imply choices it is simply less cover-up. Were the Nazis honest about their policies. Would it matter if they were? especially if the masses are herded into a clean, controlled, Orwellian, honest society where things are so honest that you would have to turn in your own family if you thought they were doing something that was disallowed. Think about what is really implied in this and the many carefully worded speeches of politicians.

Honesty doesn't imply letting the farmhand run the farm now does it. It is merely conceding a small part to the masses that there might be a little bit more transparency involved and is only being done because they are backed into a corner from which there is no exit. Hence the doomsday button to reset and start the theatre again as before and the time before etc if they can't get what they want.

While we are here debating, they have added a hundred new laws preparing for the new world order and the one world iron-fist-controlled banking system (based on honesty maybe??), updated the id cards and databases, added a million more cctv cameras and digital broadcast masts etc…..
Anyway to me this stuff as posted by the OP is just hypothetical and just another theoretical game brought to you by you know who. It has no bearing on what is really happening or will be coming our way shortly.

Back to what you said Me114 - Is this really what God wants? Everyone thinks God wants something that is important to them from their perspective, but is it really God that wants this? Whose God is it? In this world you would have to wait until there is a common understanding or spiritual awakening otherwise you are simply forcing others to conform to what your God wants. The many dark souls on this world are not following Your God are they, so how will you achieve this consensus?

Roger Waters (from Pink Floyd) has a great song called what god wants.

The Creator, The True Source that I serve is not into maintaining the status quo of this dark realm whether honest or not and maintaining standards that prop up the elite and royal bloodlines that by birthright inherit everything while children are dying next to them with absolutely nothing and without so much as the most basic dignified fair chance in life.

The correction to this distortion will not be in the materialistic terms that those negotiating the future would like. The transition to the higher vibrations has already begun and the separation will occur according to the individual. God won't save these people you talk about in that simplistic way, they will have to save themselves -they will have to make the conscious change mentally and spiritually before it is too late and they are recycled instead of released. In this way I guess God or The Creator Is dealing with those so-called 'evil ones' on an individual basis too.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 528886
10/19/2008 8:46 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

make the DOW go up 1000 points at exactly 12:00am then take it back to the opening level by the close of trading tomorrow.
Jim
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 407906
10/19/2008 8:46 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

How about an 'accident' at a nuclear power station? Of course,it would like like a small amount of radiation had been leaked, but in actual fact it would all be for show. Talking of which, do the elite have a clean source of energy we could all switch to?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 530500
10/19/2008 8:46 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

make the DOW go up 1000 points at exactly 12:00am then take it back to the opening level by the close of trading tomorrow.
Jim
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 528886


LOLOLOLOL

You think they will let you make some money that easy ?
Grow up... lol..
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 8:47 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

It must be something that won't hurt anybody and something simple that won't be too unusual or noticed by anyone.



Since we are heading towards a "honest" world order, why don't you ask them to be honest regarding 9/11, and other ritualistic killings?

Would they be willing to step up the plate? Will they come clean regarding all the atrocities that they have committed and the lies that they use to have us deceived, while hiding the truth that could be perceived?

This is the problem when dealing with psychopaths. They will lie, lie and lie, and still pretend to use "honesty".

"Another characteristic of psychopaths is compulsive lying, deception, manipulation and so on, hence a questionnaire cannot be relied entirely upon when assessing a psychopath, as a questionnaire relies on the honesty of the participant and psychopaths are not honest."

[link to www.itutorials.co.uk]

How can one trust these pathetic beings?

They even blame us if we are "enough of a fool" to believe in them, as it is a natural tendency in "normal", healthy people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 524226


Yes, total honesty will occur. It would be a speech or series of speeches. I may be a global media event with a talking head that just keeps talking with the people throughout a direct transition to honesty.
reedbecker
User ID: 530352
10/19/2008 8:49 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Don't count on you seeing it live; if you do it would be luck. It would just make news in that area... The news story is the key to an event.

That's how it's done.

One of the events they did for me was live with news helicopers and FBI trucks across the street from where I worked then, granted, but it's not like I expected that etc...they just did it. I know why they did it and it was to get my attention, indeed. It worked.

They might not do any of this...but I wanted to give it a shot since they did so much for me over the past couple of months. I don't know if I'm allowed to include others or not in the event enlightenment. They really haven't clarified things like that. Very limited communication...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772


I'll take what I can get. Hehe.

I do wonder about the philosophy of limited communication. Don't they want the best and brightest? And if so, why not be more open to those whose help they need. I'm pretty sure most of them are too removed from the world to understand the necessary steps towards honesty. If they want to create a new world of honesty, they need to stop this lack of inclusion in the decision making process. I'm not talking about millions, but they need to start listening to people who understand our world from the ground up.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 528886
10/19/2008 8:51 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

make the DOW go up 1000 points at exactly 12:00am then take it back to the opening level by the close of trading tomorrow.
Jim


LOLOLOLOL

You think they will let you make some money that easy ?
Grow up... lol..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 530500


All right, if you think that profit is my motive, make it stay even all day. I do not care to make money, just see if they can do it. It would seem better than the nuclear explosion someone else posted.
Jim
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 8:53 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Agent,

A distinct auroral display above Toronto, or a handshake is all I require.

Regards,
 Quoting: mpnsci 530506


They can certainly do light shows in the sky of just about any variety, but I don't think that's good right now.

It needs to be a simple news story type of thing. The UFO is really good by Reed. But the Earthquake probably isn't good because quakes don't happen in that reagion normally right? It needs to not be that unusual and UFO's are not all that unusual these days, but they will make the news!

When they steered "my" hurricane, nobody but me noticed because to other people it was just a hurricane moving where nature took it.

I can't tell you the other things they did...wish I could but they are too sensitive.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 528886
10/19/2008 8:56 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Maybe a power outage some place like NY, that would make news.
Jim
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 8:57 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

1. The details of how to make the dangerous technology is not told to anyone but those to develop it. That is the one thing that is controlled globally. Other things are controlled locally.

2. With the new tech available this won't be as relevant, but we can live however we want.

3. There are more direct ways to deal with the religiously brainwashed. Direct discussion of known vs belief in the corrupt forum, at the correct time is a method. I have laid out a plan to the elite that would accomplish all of this over a couple of months. They may do it...or not. Wait and see.

4. The existing elite will not remain in their positions of tyranny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772


I've been here too long and I'm typing too quick and making mistakes now...

1. "those who develop it"
3. "in the correct forum"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 8:59 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

make the DOW go up 1000 points at exactly 12:00am then take it back to the opening level by the close of trading tomorrow.
Jim
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 528886


I could tell you a story about the 777.7 drop...but I need ot keep that one to myself.

Stock market has been fucked with enough. That's too big a story - too much visibility. The UFO is the best thing I think. Very simple and easy to do.
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