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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 9:00 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

How about an 'accident' at a nuclear power station? Of course,it would like like a small amount of radiation had been leaked, but in actual fact it would all be for show. Talking of which, do the elite have a clean source of energy we could all switch to?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 407906


No
reedbecker
User ID: 530352
10/19/2008 9:01 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Agent,

A distinct auroral display above Toronto, or a handshake is all I require.

Regards,


They can certainly do light shows in the sky of just about any variety, but I don't think that's good right now.

It needs to be a simple news story type of thing. The UFO is really good by Reed. But the Earthquake probably isn't good because quakes don't happen in that reagion normally right? It needs to not be that unusual and UFO's are not all that unusual these days, but they will make the news!

When they steered "my" hurricane, nobody but me noticed because to other people it was just a hurricane moving where nature took it.

I can't tell you the other things they did...wish I could but they are too sensitive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772



Yah, they have a very small fault line closer to the southwest portion of Houston, right by I-10 and beltway 8, but nothing serious enough to cause any real shift in the crust.

I kinda just wanted to see HAARP in action. I'm a nut for Tesla.
Wanderer
User ID: 530589
10/19/2008 9:02 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

WL1 post in page 8 resumes all

Control = Fear

Dont fall in this
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 9:03 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Maybe a power outage some place like NY, that would make news.
Jim
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 528886


Yeah, that's doable. I think they will go for the UFO however.
Ron Jeremy
User ID: 519055
10/19/2008 9:06 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Jimmy Hoffa!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 501506
10/19/2008 9:07 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Special request:

I am going to ask the elite to do something for us; to show that they are listening.

What do you want them to do?

It must be something that won't hurt anybody and something simple that won't be too unusual or noticed by anyone.

I think they might do this to create a greater state of enlightenment on this thread in order to increase the energy exerted towards the honest world order. I won't suggest anything, I want you to suggest it. We'll have a vote and go with the most popular one. I will help guide the selection because it can't be just anything. I have a skill on what types of things are OK.



Maybe I will Do the Opposite DEAD STICK ...!

And I will Show Them That.... I got a very Good Human Vector-Intention...!

Yolgnu.
 Quoting: Yolgnu.


Yolgnu why not reactivate the Sun activity?
reedbecker
User ID: 530352
10/19/2008 9:08 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Maybe a power outage some place like NY, that would make news.
Jim


Yeah, that's doable. I think they will go for the UFO however.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772


Might as well use the tools they built up for project bluebeam and the fake invasion they had planned. I kiid, I kiid!

BTW, do you know if they have had direct contact with other sentient species?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 407906
10/19/2008 9:10 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Talking of which, do the elite have a clean source of energy we could all switch to?


No
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772


Bad idea. It would create too much fear. I`d still like to know the answer to my question though. Can we get off all polluting technologies, such as oil, gas, coal, nuclear, etc?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 9:11 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

No more suggestions. This is the list. They can do one, some or none. It's up to them.

1. Houston/Spring Texas near the woodlands Earthquake, like 3-4 magnitude, or a UFO that makes the news.

2. Power outage in a major city that makes the news. (I think this one is too much to ask for guys...it effects too many people).

3. I'll suggest one more: Hello elite, this is me. I either want to talk with you know who, or I want you to put a hurricane through the location; it's time. I won't reveal the location here. Obviously, it's easier to let me talk with you know who, so please do that (doesn't help people here, but it helps me).
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 9:14 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Maybe a power outage some place like NY, that would make news.
Jim


Yeah, that's doable. I think they will go for the UFO however.


Might as well use the tools they built up for project bluebeam and the fake invasion they had planned. I kiid, I kiid!

BTW, do you know if they have had direct contact with other sentient species?
 Quoting: reedbecker


What did fulford say to you?
reedbecker
User ID: 530352
10/19/2008 9:19 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

No more suggestions. This is the list. They can do one, some or none. It's up to them.

1. Houston/Spring Texas near the woodlands Earthquake, like 3-4 magnitude, or a UFO that makes the news.

2. Power outage in a major city that makes the news. (I think this one is too much to ask for guys...it effects too many people).

3. I'll suggest one more: Hello elite, this is me. I either want to talk with you know who, or I want you to put a hurricane through the location; it's time. I won't reveal the location here. Obviously, it's easier to let me talk with you know who, so please do that (doesn't help people here, but it helps me).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772


Agent, straight up, this shit is wild!

I'm glad you started this thread.

Off to visit my pops, but I will check through my mobile.

Be back on in a few hours.

peace everyone - reeder
WL1
User ID: 364634
10/19/2008 9:25 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

You talk about old to new order. You talk about the new honest order.
That does not compute as you are simply replacing one set of rules for another.
The perpetrators behind the old order were always dishonest and deceitful or just plain evil to be blunt. Changing from ethnocentricism to technology paradigm (as you put it), while sounding like impressive concepts to the gullible, amounts to a new name for the scales on the same creature. These are and never were the scales of Divine Justice or Divine Law. No matter which way you manipulate the virtual picture to change the attention of the viewer, unless you follow Divine Universal Law and the Law Of Love, you are merely posturing and trying another angle of deception. I see that poster Yolgnu is one of the few here that actually got the concept that you are offering with your technology and it’s darker implications.

The clue to the complete invalidity of this concept is that you mention Bush and this summit and how they (the so-called elite…actually mafia style gangsters and soulless sock puppets) would have some bearing on the outcome as to their decision to use their weapons of human and earthly destruction or not. They will have no decision in the reality that is approaching and you are obviously not in that loop.
The Real New World that is approaching is not of the order that you and your fellows are talking about and no matter how much you try and cloak your new order in the guise of good and non-destructive vs. the old you are sadly mistaken. The very word ‘order’ in the new world denotes hierarchy and control by an elite and as with the past an unseen hand in the puppets. Nothing will change in this fake new world order except the technology and the outward appearance of some things. With the technology comes even greater deception and the ability to control and remove those that do not fit into this new world tech paradigm with absolute ease. The word honesty is just a word that means nothing without actual intent. Look at all the ‘honest’ politicians that were voted in, not to mention all the ‘honest’ religious leaders leading their flock astray.
Hand on the bible and all that.

You use the word elite a lot and talk a lot about secret meetings for the few to decide the outcomes of the many. Manipulating the fate of the many Good Souls of this world.
The real New World Creation that is coming I am pleased to inform you does not include any participation from Bush and his summits and secret bilderberger meetings, Council on Foreign Relations, Tri-Lateral Commission, world banks and all the other secret elite sponsored and controlled societies. It also does not include contribution or participation from the unseen hands and your secretive superiors that think they are in control of the reigns. The Reign is Over. The concept of elite is over.

To put it into basic terms – compare what you are talking about changing 1 to 2 is the same as the plan with the financial system. Use a fake and self serving (to a few) enslaving system and push it to the limits that you can before it starts to crack or fold in on itself and people start to get wise to the deception en masse, then play the good guys and step in to replace this evil fragmented system with another bigger consolidated evil world system that is even more controlled and devious than before using this technology that you speak of. All you are taking about really is damage control and final implementation of the same scam.

You (OP) say something similar to Fulford in that the elites like R’child and Rck’feller will not lose everything and will be as happy with the new system as with the old – a win win situation as f’ford says. WRONG. Good Souls/Power of the People of the same source Creator WIN and the others LOSE i.e dig their own graves/tombs as they have been doing for millennia. You say that they can kill everyone at the push of a button. You are wrong. They will not be allowed to play out any of these fantasies. The fact that you mention it shows the intent in you to provide fear and a thinly veiled warning. If they try it, it will become a big eye opener as to who really controls these realms.

By The Divine Will and Law the GAME IS OVER - there is no more re-designing and changing around of the pawns and puppets in the same drama to suit – as with the US elections. There will be no more place in the New World for elites and bloodline preference and chosen ones and hierarchical control systems of one group over another whether based on ethnicity or simply technological power.
ALL BULLSHIT.
ALL GOING TO CHANGE.

One last thing to the OP – you seem to have been very impressed with this simple display of steering a hurricane. That is very simplistic and rather old. Would you be even more impressed by an earthquake or other much more impressive celestial events? This is just a tip of the iceberg in terms of the magic tricks available to the real players (not you). That means that we are living in a world run secretly by magicians or so it would appear to most people.
That also means that words and concepts based on politics and technological agreements on weapons systems and dooms day devices is completely and fully INVALID.
The power behind the powers that wanted to be is being removed. That is the only real solution. The surface superficial solutions are just microcosmic specs of nonsense in the big picture no matter how you twist it with the manipulation of language and concepts to try and make it manifest in the mass consciousness. That is why your theories are invalid as they still hide the truth about who is really the unseen controlling power.
Without that in the open everything else is invalid.

As with the huge promising (lying) political speeches before elections. It all amounts to absolutely NOTHING once the decisions have been made out of the ears of the lowly masses and the Power of the People has been deferred to the power of the black magicians.
Screw the new world order. It’s simply a NEW WORD ORDER. Yes ‘word’ order. Deception by words (and technology).
The new world odour stinks. You can keep it.

There is a much more beautiful and Divinely Just future awaiting, that is simply a return to spiritual awareness and what we once were and Really Are before the dark ones stepped in with their agenda.
ALL CHANGE NOW.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The type of thing you are talking about would be the next step in the hegelian dialectic / deceptive world order. I think you probabably know this. The honest world order throws all nonsense like this out and just tells it like it is; nature.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772

The problem with what you have been saying is it is too much in line with what Fulford has said, not in actual content but in the manner that it deals only with the materialistic aspects and the tangible, not the unseen, the unscientific, the unknown - all aspects that are interlocked with the outcome and if ignored make the superficial elements irrelevant.

It is also a problem for me that you are okay with all these secretive beings feeding you information and showing you impressive tricks to gain your trust. Do you know who you are really dealing with because I think people have a right to know who is secretly deciding their fate for them at this moment. That has been the problem with the old.

Are we maybe forgetting the many seen and unseen beings around and within this planet at the moment and their huge role in humans history. What is elite other than privileged. It does not imply being enlightened by any means so why would they be entrusted with stewardship of this world. Therefore you have to reveal who is behind those that are behind you before you gain any trust regarding 'honesty'.

You stated at the beginning that you have a job as a contributor to the new global order because the elites watched you and liked your creative style.
Do you not see how wrong this looks to anyone looking into your little world. Once again what we have here is the elites (the same ones responsible for the past mistakes) grooming potential puppets that fit or align with their way of thinking.
As in building a campaign team of 'either with us or against us'.
On that basis you fail.

Also - only a prankster in my opinion would use the term 'the honest world order'. It is laughable beyond belief.
reedbecker
User ID: 530352
10/19/2008 9:26 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Maybe a power outage some place like NY, that would make news.
Jim


Yeah, that's doable. I think they will go for the UFO however.


Might as well use the tools they built up for project bluebeam and the fake invasion they had planned. I kiid, I kiid!

BTW, do you know if they have had direct contact with other sentient species?


What did fulford say to you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772


He said thank you for the heartfelt email, but that the Russians and Chinese deserve the credit. He also stated that there has been a change at the very top of the planet's power structure, and benefits and technology should soon begin to flow to the rest of humanity. He also told me to remain optimistic.

Pretty cool of him, since I know he's busy.

Ok, I'm off. Back on late tonight.

:)

peace - reeder
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507772 (OP)
10/19/2008 9:26 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Bad idea. It would create too much fear. I`d still like to know the answer to my question though. Can we get off all polluting technologies, such as oil, gas, coal, nuclear, etc?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 407906


Of course. That's a trivial matter.
WL1
User ID: 364634
10/19/2008 9:27 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

You talk about old to new order. You talk about the new honest order.
That does not compute as you are simply replacing one set of rules for another.
The perpetrators behind the old order were always dishonest and deceitful or just plain evil to be blunt. Changing from ethnocentricism to technology paradigm (as you put it), while sounding like impressive concepts to the gullible, amounts to a new name for the scales on the same creature. These are and never were the scales of Divine Justice or Divine Law. No matter which way you manipulate the virtual picture to change the attention of the viewer, unless you follow Divine Universal Law and the Law Of Love, you are merely posturing and trying another angle of deception. I see that poster Yolgnu is one of the few here that actually got the concept that you are offering with your technology and it’s darker implications.

The clue to the complete invalidity of this concept is that you mention Bush and this summit and how they (the so-called elite…actually mafia style gangsters and soulless sock puppets) would have some bearing on the outcome as to their decision to use their weapons of human and earthly destruction or not. They will have no decision in the reality that is approaching and you are obviously not in that loop.
The Real New World that is approaching is not of the order that you and your fellows are talking about and no matter how much you try and cloak your new order in the guise of good and non-destructive vs. the old you are sadly mistaken. The very word ‘order’ in the new world denotes hierarchy and control by an elite and as with the past an unseen hand in the puppets. Nothing will change in this fake new world order except the technology and the outward appearance of some things. With the technology comes even greater deception and the ability to control and remove those that do not fit into this new world tech paradigm with absolute ease. The word honesty is just a word that means nothing without actual intent. Look at all the ‘honest’ politicians that were voted in, not to mention all the ‘honest’ religious leaders leading their flock astray.
Hand on the bible and all that.

You use the word elite a lot and talk a lot about secret meetings for the few to decide the outcomes of the many. Manipulating the fate of the many Good Souls of this world.
The real New World Creation that is coming I am pleased to inform you does not include any participation from Bush and his summits and secret bilderberger meetings, Council on Foreign Relations, Tri-Lateral Commission, world banks and all the other secret elite sponsored and controlled societies. It also does not include contribution or participation from the unseen hands and your secretive superiors that think they are in control of the reigns. The Reign is Over. The concept of elite is over.

To put it into basic terms – compare what you are talking about changing 1 to 2 is the same as the plan with the financial system. Use a fake and self serving (to a few) enslaving system and push it to the limits that you can before it starts to crack or fold in on itself and people start to get wise to the deception en masse, then play the good guys and step in to replace this evil fragmented system with another bigger consolidated evil world system that is even more controlled and devious than before using this technology that you speak of. All you are taking about really is damage control and final implementation of the same scam.

You (OP) say something similar to Fulford in that the elites like R’child and Rck’feller will not lose everything and will be as happy with the new system as with the old – a win win situation as f’ford says. WRONG. Good Souls/Power of the People of the same source Creator WIN and the others LOSE i.e dig their own graves/tombs as they have been doing for millennia. You say that they can kill everyone at the push of a button. You are wrong. They will not be allowed to play out any of these fantasies. The fact that you mention it shows the intent in you to provide fear and a thinly veiled warning. If they try it, it will become a big eye opener as to who really controls these realms.

By The Divine Will and Law the GAME IS OVER - there is no more re-designing and changing around of the pawns and puppets in the same drama to suit – as with the US elections. There will be no more place in the New World for elites and bloodline preference and chosen ones and hierarchical control systems of one group over another whether based on ethnicity or simply technological power.
ALL BULLSHIT.
ALL GOING TO CHANGE.

One last thing to the OP – you seem to have been very impressed with this simple display of steering a hurricane. That is very simplistic and rather old. Would you be even more impressed by an earthquake or other much more impressive celestial events? This is just a tip of the iceberg in terms of the magic tricks available to the real players (not you). That means that we are living in a world run secretly by magicians or so it would appear to most people.
That also means that words and concepts based on politics and technological agreements on weapons systems and dooms day devices is completely and fully INVALID.
The power behind the powers that wanted to be is being removed. That is the only real solution. The surface superficial solutions are just microcosmic specs of nonsense in the big picture no matter how you twist it with the manipulation of language and concepts to try and make it manifest in the mass consciousness. That is why your theories are invalid as they still hide the truth about who is really the unseen controlling power.
Without that in the open everything else is invalid.

As with the huge promising (lying) political speeches before elections. It all amounts to absolutely NOTHING once the decisions have been made out of the ears of the lowly masses and the Power of the People has been deferred to the power of the black magicians.
Screw the new world order. It’s simply a NEW WORD ORDER. Yes ‘word’ order. Deception by words (and technology).
The new world odour stinks. You can keep it.

There is a much more beautiful and Divinely Just future awaiting, that is simply a return to spiritual awareness and what we once were and Really Are before the dark ones stepped in with their agenda.
ALL CHANGE NOW.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The type of thing you are talking about would be the next step in the hegelian dialectic / deceptive world order. I think you probabably know this. The honest world order throws all nonsense like this out and just tells it like it is; nature.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772

The problem with what you have been saying is it is too much in line with what Fulford has said, not in actual content but in the manner that it deals only with the materialistic aspects and the tangible, not the unseen, the unscientific, the unknown - all aspects that are interlocked with the outcome and if ignored make the superficial elements irrelevant.

It is also a problem for me that you are okay with all these secretive beings feeding you information and showing you impressive tricks to gain your trust. Do you know who you are really dealing with because I think people have a right to know who is secretly deciding their fate for them at this moment. That has been the problem with the old.

Are we maybe forgetting the many seen and unseen beings around and within this planet at the moment and their huge role in humans history. What is elite other than privileged. It does not imply being enlightened by any means so why would they be entrusted with stewardship of this world. Therefore you have to reveal who is behind those that are behind you before you gain any trust regarding 'honesty'.

You stated at the beginning that you have a job as a contributor to the new global order because the elites watched you and liked your creative style.
Do you not see how wrong this looks to anyone looking into your little world. Once again what we have here is the elites (the same ones responsible for the past mistakes) grooming potential puppets that fit or align with their way of thinking.
As in building a campaign team of 'either with us or against us'.
On that basis you fail.

Also - only a prankster in my opinion would use the term 'the honest world order'.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 407906
10/19/2008 9:33 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Bad idea. It would create too much fear. I`d still like to know the answer to my question though. Can we get off all polluting technologies, such as oil, gas, coal, nuclear, etc?


Of course. That's a trivial matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772

The sooner the better then, for us and the planet.
Ron Jeremy
User ID: 519055
10/19/2008 9:41 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

You know screw Fulford he is full of crap, he is the one that said there was chinese Illuminati and said there were doing to take out the NWO a while back, Bogus nonsense.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 524226
10/19/2008 9:44 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

The correction to this distortion will not be in the materialistic terms that those negotiating the future would like. The transition to the higher vibrations has already begun and the separation will occur according to the individual.
 Quoting: WL1 364634


Hi WL1,

I really like your perspective in this, as I stated in a post before.

It is truly sickening to see people working for these "bloodlines", while they step on everybody's corpses to steal from us what The Creator gave to all.

Worse than the "bloodlines" are the scum that work to carry their plans. In my view.

But I want to ask you is this: what makes you so certain that this "correction" is being done? Is this based on faith? Is this God of yours the same subjective God that you condemn on Me114? What kind of assurance you have that this is happening on physical reality, as supposed to your own mind?

Thanks.
Me114 Subscriber
aka ladynada
User ID: 323570
10/19/2008 9:48 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Special request:

I am going to ask the elite to do something for us; to show that they are listening.

What do you want them to do?

It must be something that won't hurt anybody and something simple that won't be too unusual or noticed by anyone.

I think they might do this to create a greater state of enlightenment on this thread in order to increase the energy exerted towards the honest world order. I won't suggest anything, I want you to suggest it. We'll have a vote and go with the most popular one. I will help guide the selection because it can't be just anything. I have a skill on what types of things are OK.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772



have the elite insert 3 seconds of blank space in the broadcast of the opening song of the monday night football program.. they can use the old multicolored bar test screen or a blank black or white screen, at least 2 seconds.. 3 would be nice
=+=+=+=

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[link to heartdaughter.com]
Official Elijah Blog
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Check for RANDOM POSTS in the Far right column!

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 524226
10/19/2008 9:48 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

It must be something that won't hurt anybody and something simple that won't be too unusual or noticed by anyone.



Since we are heading towards a "honest" world order, why don't you ask them to be honest regarding 9/11, and other ritualistic killings?

Would they be willing to step up the plate? Will they come clean regarding all the atrocities that they have committed and the lies that they use to have us deceived, while hiding the truth that could be perceived?

This is the problem when dealing with psychopaths. They will lie, lie and lie, and still pretend to use "honesty".

"Another characteristic of psychopaths is compulsive lying, deception, manipulation and so on, hence a questionnaire cannot be relied entirely upon when assessing a psychopath, as a questionnaire relies on the honesty of the participant and psychopaths are not honest."

[link to www.itutorials.co.uk]

How can one trust these pathetic beings?

They even blame us if we are "enough of a fool" to believe in them, as it is a natural tendency in "normal", healthy people.


Yes, total honesty will occur. It would be a speech or series of speeches. I may be a global media event with a talking head that just keeps talking with the people throughout a direct transition to honesty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772



Will there be "hierarchies"?

(And you have not talked about the request stated above.)
Me114 Subscriber
aka ladynada
User ID: 323570
10/19/2008 9:59 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Here is a suggestion.
Chemtrail a name in a decided city so only certain people looking will expect it and understand what they are looking at.

Ohh and you never responded to my last two retorts.


We can't all see the chemtrails. It needs to be something that will make a news story so we can all go to a link on the internet and read about it.

Sorry I didn't clarify that before.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772


ok then my 3 second blank space in the monday night football would have to instead show an image that is provacative enough for there to be a news story...

maybe a cartoon character in a bikini

roger rabbit with lipstick made up to look like that girl friend he had in the movie or something
=+=+=+=

Official Two Witnesses Website
[link to heartdaughter.com]
Official Elijah Blog
[link to heartdaughter.com]
Check for RANDOM POSTS in the Far right column!

[link to www.ustream.tv] live chat
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 524226
10/19/2008 10:00 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

You know screw Fulford he is full of crap, he is the one that said there was chinese Illuminati and said there were doing to take out the NWO a while back, Bogus nonsense.
 Quoting: Ron Jeremy


He is playing a role, and you should study it.
Ron Jeremy
User ID: 519055
10/19/2008 10:02 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

You know screw Fulford he is full of crap, he is the one that said there was chinese Illuminati and said there were doing to take out the NWO a while back, Bogus nonsense.


He is playing a role, and you should study it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 524226

I have and he is part of it. Its not the information you know its why you know it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 524226
10/19/2008 10:05 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

I have and he is part of it.
 Quoting: Ron Jeremy


I know. Almost all are in on it it seems.

Or so they think.
Me114 Subscriber
aka ladynada
User ID: 323570
10/19/2008 10:06 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

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There is a much more beautiful and Divinely Just future awaiting, that is simply a return to spiritual awareness and what we once were and Really Are before the dark ones stepped in with their agenda.
ALL CHANGE NOW.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
calm down a second

can your paradigm allow the OP's paradigm to blend in smoothly with yours?

is there a way in your paradigm for the Creator, to INCLUDE the peoples who WORKED for the top most-evil people?

the OP's idea is to open a way for the people involved in the hierarchies to get out of them and be 'saved'. do you care about these people?

GOD DOES

so, i agree with most of what you wrote, it is accurate, God's plans are unfolding right now... but also open your eyes to see how the OP's ideas fit right well into what God wants to do... to INCLUDE everyone

let God deal with the most-evil ones Himself Personally...

i like what you said.. but we have to deal with our own cynicism... or approach things more on 'the up and up' believe the best about it, to allow it to unfold for GOOD

I am quite calm....then and now. Your idea of calm might be quite different from mine.

You must have seen something in the op's words that I didn't as I don't see any potential or desire in this new model for a collapse of hierarchical structure (or an allowance for those that wish to get out to do so). If the elite that have benefited from the blood of innocents in the old structure are allowed to continue on in some similar form, even if operating through a fairer more controlled system (I don't believe honesty is a good word as it implies honor - honor among thieves - silent handshakes and winks on the side - honor in appearance only for the world theatre - cynical you may think but...old dogs ...same old tricks.), then the hierarchy remains. They will always maintain that the sheep need to be led and will do what is best for them even if it means culling a billion or three. Maybe they will tell the people more honestly when they begin culling the useless feeders. Honesty doesn't imply choices it is simply less cover-up. Were the Nazis honest about their policies. Would it matter if they were? especially if the masses are herded into a clean, controlled, Orwellian, honest society where things are so honest that you would have to turn in your own family if you thought they were doing something that was disallowed. Think about what is really implied in this and the many carefully worded speeches of politicians.

Honesty doesn't imply letting the farmhand run the farm now does it. It is merely conceding a small part to the masses that there might be a little bit more transparency involved and is only being done because they are backed into a corner from which there is no exit. Hence the doomsday button to reset and start the theatre again as before and the time before etc if they can't get what they want.

While we are here debating, they have added a hundred new laws preparing for the new world order and the one world iron-fist-controlled banking system (based on honesty maybe??), updated the id cards and databases, added a million more cctv cameras and digital broadcast masts etc…..
Anyway to me this stuff as posted by the OP is just hypothetical and just another theoretical game brought to you by you know who. It has no bearing on what is really happening or will be coming our way shortly.

Back to what you said Me114 - Is this really what God wants? Everyone thinks God wants something that is important to them from their perspective, but is it really God that wants this? Whose God is it? In this world you would have to wait until there is a common understanding or spiritual awakening otherwise you are simply forcing others to conform to what your God wants. The many dark souls on this world are not following Your God are they, so how will you achieve this consensus?

Roger Waters (from Pink Floyd) has a great song called what god wants.

The Creator, The True Source that I serve is not into maintaining the status quo of this dark realm whether honest or not and maintaining standards that prop up the elite and royal bloodlines that by birthright inherit everything while children are dying next to them with absolutely nothing and without so much as the most basic dignified fair chance in life.

The correction to this distortion will not be in the materialistic terms that those negotiating the future would like. The transition to the higher vibrations has already begun and the separation will occur according to the individual. God won't save these people you talk about in that simplistic way, they will have to save themselves -they will have to make the conscious change mentally and spiritually before it is too late and they are recycled instead of released. In this way I guess God or The Creator Is dealing with those so-called 'evil ones' on an individual basis too.
 Quoting: WL1 364634


i really think u and i believe essentially the same thing...

i am just seeing the OP's idea as a loose framework that can later be adjusted to what God wants to do.

it will be possible to get a consensus. God will reveal Himself - it will still require faith to believe it is him

the changes that happen within people (the ones you speak of) will also make it easier for other people to go along

God just wants to make this transition smooth

He wants us to do it, as he guides us within

im optimistic it will work out well


this creation needs to SEE the Father, God, visibly
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10/19/2008 10:07 PM
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Maybe a power outage some place like NY, that would make news.
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already did that today
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10/19/2008 10:08 PM
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Yes, WL1, excellent rendition! Of course, I realize it is highly unlikely that you or I would ever possibly want to talk to one another in society but I must not fail to stipulate that Light and Dark are two sides of a three-sided coin (all coins are three-sided... if you look carefully). You cannot 1 without the other two, nor both of them without the third.

I am pleased to have helped you to use your eyes which you were probably ignorant of to a degree before my timely intervention in matters pertaining to your own body.

This is of course a metaphorical illustration of a philosophical concept pertaining to the ultimate nature of reality but, as I recall, Agent says his specialty no less was sensing out the probably philosophical directions forward. Thus, we could ask for his wholly amateur but very well-meaning (in the sense of "self-serving") input on this philosophical question regarding the nature of Light, Dark, The Universe and the number 3.

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Soza.
 Quoting: So-za 529786

Greetings So-za.

I have enjoyed reading your posts here.
You clearly have some different perspectives from which to view this world.

I'm not sure I understand about your 'timely intervention' and not sure if this is the right place to discuss it especially since we haven't opened the wormhole to this utopian honest world order yet.

Yes the three sided coin - but coins are only needed in this realm, we are headed where our pockets may be lined with other delights beyond coins. Also in this world there are many trick coins and counterfeit ones of course.


All the best to you and your continued adventures in the world of foie gras and caviar - ooh la la.
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10/19/2008 11:00 PM
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The correction to this distortion will not be in the materialistic terms that those negotiating the future would like. The transition to the higher vibrations has already begun and the separation will occur according to the individual.


Hi WL1,

I really like your perspective in this, as I stated in a post before.

It is truly sickening to see people working for these "bloodlines", while they step on everybody's corpses to steal from us what The Creator gave to all.

Worse than the "bloodlines" are the scum that work to carry their plans. In my view.

But I want to ask you is this: what makes you so certain that this "correction" is being done? Is this based on faith? Is this God of yours the same subjective God that you condemn on Me114? What kind of assurance you have that this is happening on physical reality, as supposed to your own mind?

Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 524226

Hi 524226

Thank you, you are kind.
You are right. Willful ignorance to ones true paymaster because of the fat payoff is no excuse is it.

Your question is difficult to answer in words and without waffling on but.......

I usually steer clear of using the term 'God' too often as it seems to be so different to different individuals and has been twisted as a dualistic concept.
In my simple terms it is The One, The Creator, The Source.
I believe/know all Souls here are fragments of this God in our many godlike, God-sparked forms in their many different forms of role-play. Of course even the dark ones. Our form represented here being even smaller fragments of our greater Higher Self leading back to the One Source. Our Eternal Connection.

I don't see the knowledge within me as faith or belief based. It is simply my individual fragment expressing itself. I'm sure you know - we all have the knowledge or have access to it - it is simply easier to access in some.
Maybe a slight degree of lunacy is required.
No assurance to others really - only to myself and my connection with others.
Could be wrong. It could just be me. It either resonates or it doesn’t.

Difficult to really say behind this veil.
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10/19/2008 11:03 PM
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OP is most wise.

Thanks for answering my questions.

I've expecting a new age of technology paradigm for quite awhile. The old elites cannot continue their charades and facades of reality just to dupe the masses for long. The old elites will eventually be replaced by the new elites who may or may not be like the rest of the masses.

I have long believed that the human race will progress, evolution-wise, to the final stage of homo Deus. It will take several hundred centuries to do so. But, first, man MUST goes out and explore the vast cosmos in order to understand his place in the cosmos.

OP, honor Saint Anselm of Canterbury. You'll know what I mean.
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10/19/2008 11:19 PM
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Difficult to really say behind this veil.
 Quoting: WL1 364634


I was actually asking regarding the "transition to the higher vibrations" that you spoke about.

How come you are sure it is happening? This correction as you put it.
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