FUCKING LET GO. Real strength comes through courage and trust. Since they have been in control (and it seems as though they have been in control for a very, very long time, to varying degrees), they have had neither, since never was there a time where their hidden rule, and thus their persons, was challenged by imminent danger. Not in many, many generations.
UNTIL NOW.
And they are very afraid.
It is ironic, really, that they fear Ron Paul since the strength of his following came about through their greatest weaknesses: courage and trust.
He has had the courage and integrity to stand up to them, and the trust in his following to do the right thing.
Their complete lack of trust in the rest of humanity causes them to inflict and reinforce their own psychological failings on the people. It's standard follow the leader psychology.
Unless they let go, they, and we, will lose it all.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 533516
They FEAR Anything They CAN NOT CONTROL.
And they Know THEY CAN NOT CONTROL GOD's POTENTATE.
Ans They KNOW How POWERFULL He IS.
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Me114 aka ladynada User ID: 323570 10/26/2008 8:34 AM
im reading some of the responses by the person calling himself
Hidden_Hand
it seems to me that the structure of the house and family he mentions is a hierarchy on earth that was meant to be filled with the people whose right it is to rule
some of those people might be you or me, maybe some of them who are in there now also have a right to be there
so the fix is, that we heal each other and let people drift (moved by the spirit) to where their destinies would have them.
look at this with love and understanding that healing is all over us now, thats why God broke it all up and open
no more hate
no more revenge
the revenge is against the 'wicked' and the wicked is LIES, not people.. call it the wicked non-things.. that is what the FIRE of God's truth burns up and off of his people (all of us)
so let the Hidden_Hand come forth and speak some truths, if he will, and let the people continue with a foundation of LOVE and faith in an outcome of GOODNESS (HWO)
p.s. check out the thread, its interesting =+=+=+=
im reading some of the responses by the person calling himself
Hidden_Hand
it seems to me that the structure of the house and family he mentions is a hierarchy on earth that was meant to be filled with the people whose right it is to rule
some of those people might be you or me, maybe some of them who are in there now also have a right to be there
so the fix is, that we heal each other and let people drift (moved by the spirit) to where their destinies would have them.
look at this with love and understanding that healing is all over us now, thats why God broke it all up and open
no more hate
no more revenge
the revenge is against the 'wicked' and the wicked is LIES, not people.. call it the wicked non-things.. that is what the FIRE of God's truth burns up and off of his people (all of us)
so let the Hidden_Hand come forth and speak some truths, if he will, and let the people continue with a foundation of LOVE and faith in an outcome of GOODNESS (HWO)
p.s. check out the thread, its interesting
Quoting: Me114
Oh I'm afraid that there will be much revenge. Why should your vengeful "god" supposedly have all the fun? We've been on the receiving end of 'their' bullshit, not that prick. He was a willing bystander.
Those who once considered themselves untouchable are going to learn all about the pain they've inflicted on the cattle in their quest for greater control - before their mortal death.
Should be fun.
Me114 aka ladynada User ID: 323570 10/26/2008 8:58 AM
Humans in turn (or the Souls incarnated within them), seek to 'return to the Light' and Love, from which they came, as they begin the journey of progression, from 3rd Density up to the 8th Density, and the return to The Infinite One-ness.
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WRONG ending
thats the problem... he has lotsa truths in there but a lie as a conclusion
we are not to return as though God can not make children that are truly separate
this has been the argument between christianity and new age re: oneness versus separation
it is the free will that causes truly separate persons
the tree of life is to make the physical divine then we go on from there and continue to grow forever
also this fellow has studied Ra the law of one and is mentioned in the web bot reports as the ones who wear the sphinx hats
this RA person was likely created by the worshippers and is a thought-form, however, from reading his books, its very possible this thought-form is one we created that is not evil - i do not know RA's status as a being... but there is something to him, and even more now i see it, from readin this fellow's understandings
when people read the RA law of one books they get to know this RA being as a person... and they like him.. so some continue living by this law of one.. and they can be in pretty good shape (or bad shape) but it can keep you steady to receive truths
all this stuff has to be reconciled.. we cant be quick to judge, be more open to seeing these many threads of truths within tainted paradigms that are all pointing to the same WAY - a way into a family life among men on earth at peace in their hearts with their creator (the true one)
Humans in turn (or the Souls incarnated within them), seek to 'return to the Light' and Love, from which they came, as they begin the journey of progression, from 3rd Density up to the 8th Density, and the return to The Infinite One-ness.
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WRONG ending
thats the problem... he has lotsa truths in there but a lie as a conclusion
we are not to return as though God can not make children that are truly separate
this has been the argument between christianity and new age re: oneness versus separation
it is the free will that causes truly separate persons
Quoting: Me114
GET FUCKED YOU NEW-AGE, TWO-FACED, COMMUNIST CUNT
Me114 aka ladynada User ID: 323570 10/26/2008 9:06 AM
im reading a lil more of hidden hands information and i warn you all it is a PSYOP
the harvest cycles he speaks of are not like he is saying, THIS TIME
his so-called truth about the densities is knowledge bereft of true understanding - thus his conclusions are wrong
this is why it is so hard to discern the truth from things that appear to be true! only the Holy Spirit can slice it just right AND give you the understandings
he represents the human on earth side of the rebellion in the second heaven which has already been put down april-august 2008
thus his tier/group is NEXT
his MESSAGE on the forums is a desparate attempt to draw in new agers and others to keep their fake vision of reality alive through using OUR FAITH
it is a PSYOP!
i warn you all
if this HWO is a pysop, then id rather put my faith in the HWO because i know it blends perfectly with the kingdom of God of which i am a part. and in the HWO, this man's message is his confession of his truth - so he doesnt even realize that he and his FAMILY are caught IN OUR TRAP
Well, there were certainly a rash of seemingly credible UFO sitings in the Houston area...
This is amazing.
I would like very much to believe in the HWO.
But I've seen way too much.
Hey Agent...can you tell them to lay off the chemtrails?
Hey OP: I've been following the predictive linguistics from the "Half-Past Human" guys, better-known as the think tanks behind the Web Bot Project.
They made the following statement on Coast to Coast radio a few weeks back:
"There is a device out and about in the world being chased down by the "powers that be. Two whistle-blowers have a device in their hands and are on the run. By just having the device they have created certain side effects that the "powers that be" couldn't have predicted. The Time Monks do not have a word for these devices. Relate it to a cave man trying to describe a modern gun."
........
It's actually 100% honest and legit. Strange for such a thing to happen in this world. But it's all towards the goal of the honest world order.
Let's do it.
..........
How dare you to condemn a person for her beliefs and yet defend such stupid compulsory "honesty" as the one proposed by a supposed elite towards the entire rest of humanity.
Jeeezzz, OP you disgust me!
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You gotta be kidding, wright? "How dare you to condemn a person for her beliefs" - well isn`t honesty just about that? You think something is stupid, you say it. We`re in troube pretty much because we don`t say what we think. We can`t build hones order before we start doing it. And yes, as OP said, it wouldn`t be easy and not perffect at the beginning, but it`s important to start that beginning.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255
Hey, I think you didn't get the real sense of this thread. It is a *JOKE*, you see?
The OP is playing games with the other posters for some reason that he's not stating which is.
This story (BS BTW) of Honesty World Order is just a name he created to observe our reactions.
On pg2 the OP says it explicitly "this thread is called probing", he's playing a game with us and, of course, if you believe him you become a piece in his game-board.
And also the idea of being "honest" does NOT mean that you can *condemn* anyone on their beliefs.
Anyone has the *right* to believe whatever they want and a honest person can at most try to convince the other of her/his mistakes instead of throwing a "brainwashed" stigma as the OP did on Rachel, which is a person that he barely knows as if he had the right to judge and be above the others.
He hasn't and he isn't!
You can disagree with me and say that clearly, that is honest and is your right, but to *condemn* me because of that is purely offensive and disrespectful.
I believe you don't believe in offense and disrespect, which BTW are usual weapons used by the elite against the "masses", beware!
thats the problem... he has lotsa truths in there but a lie as a conclusion
we are not to return as though God can not make children that are truly separate
this has been the argument between christianity and new age re: oneness versus separation
it is the free will that causes truly separate persons
the tree of life is to make the physical divine then we go on from there and continue to grow forever.
Quoting: Me114
Intricate subject...
Perhaps we return to the One as fully individuated fractals after a long stint in these "lower dimentions" to fully interact (be at one) with the Infininte One on "level 8" and on up. "We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of the dream."
"People often tell me motivation doesn't last. I tell them bathing doesn't either. That's why I recommend it daily!"-Zig Zigler
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They are listening now. Do you have perfect plan?
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Oh There Listening LoLoL So Here we go...! :o)
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Quoting: Yolgnu.
now, THIS is a truly honest post!
Take that OP!
And shove your HNO and the also NWO BTW, through you f****ng a**!:-)
Anonymous Coward User ID: 529210 10/26/2008 3:36 PM
I sadly see that the OP has his "followers",
I mean those who want to be part of the GAME he's playing.
(**so sad**)
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 529210
I'm not playing a game, COWARD. I am not following anyone. I am responding to threads that I find interesting and may shine light onto what is happening.
I think it is alot of good hearted and minded people here,
that are now reading these words...
on the other side of this screen,
theres alot of emotions connected to these times..
The insecurity on what tomorrow will 'bring' us,
the powerlessness and frustration over the large forces in motion.
It is easy to focus too much on ONE thing,
and continue a thread with arguments on details.
I am a novis compared to many others in here,
when it comes to history of posters -
the type of posters, and the tricks and games..
However -
is it possible to learn from mistakes,
and through what is posted by each and everyone -
HELP GUIDE without attacking?
I felt the sincerity from several posters,
their longing for a change, and how they lit up
by the though of actually that someone IN POWERPOSITION
had the WILL and attempt to DO GOOD - in service to others,
and not only service to self...
Ah, how many of US, do that ourselves?
Right now...
Do we reach out to them we feel resonate with our own intent
or are we here to 'spread disharmony' and divide through conflicts
point out flaws and judge, cast blame...
Everyone is entitled to their opinion - that is democrasy.
And many reactions are NORMAL REACTION TO ABNORMAL SITUATION.
Though... just for a little moment, contemplate on this:
WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT?
and, HOW can you CREATE and MANIFEST that?
Constructive?
WE ARE RIGHT NOW CREATING HISTORY...
Im not talking about those with a service-to self agenda,
we all have that in our private sphere, I mean here.
A philosophical video to contemplate on... THIS IS HOW IMPORTANT *YOU* ARE!
LIVE EARTH MOVEMENT -CAN YOU SAVE THE PLANET?
[link to www.youtube.com] "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
- George Orwell
"IT IS THE ABSOLUTE RESPONSIBILITY OF EVERYBODY IN UNIFORM TO DISOBEY AN ORDER THAT IS EITHER ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL"
- General Peter Pace, chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff addressing the National Press Club, Feb 17/06 "Command Override"
. Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people.”
-Eleanor Roosevelt
Anonymous Coward User ID: 535021 10/26/2008 4:13 PM
If you think you can achive it withiut it
.......
Know that some of US can retrieve records, append, delete and modify at will with full writer status on all functions, including temporal in this world's Matrix Control System.
Some have developped a simple to understand, step-by-step overview of our current world situation as we see it
from our perspective.
AND Many qualified 5d-based Operators. Helping US RIGHT KNOW...! Nothing can be more abstract, more unreal, than what we actually see.
We know that what we can see of the objective world as human beings never really exists as we see or understand it.
AnyWay....
Yolgnu.
Quoting: Yolgnu.
Yes Yolgnu, the more I read your posts the more I like you!:-)
The problem of people like this so called Agent and his so called Honest New Order is that they don't have the perception /sensibility for the realities that you're talking here.
They don't see the spiritual world or the realities beyond the 3rd density material system that we're forced to live as incarnated beings in this (beautiful) planet (for while...).
Please, tell us more about what you can see as real and the un-reality of this objective material world.
This polarization between the materialistic and the spiritualistic view of the world is a fact, isn't it?
I sadly see that the OP has his "followers",
I mean those who want to be part of the GAME he's playing.
(**so sad**)
.........
I'm not playing a game, COWARD. I am not following anyone. I am responding to threads that I find interesting and may shine light onto what is happening.
Don't cry for me, COWARD.
Quoting: Spider
I'm not a coward I just think that he is playing a game with this thread and he's NOT for real.
If you think this is a *real thing* and you can put your honesty in an idea so simple and superficial as the OP has posted then I think you're deluded.
But it was not my intention to offend you. Maybe I'm not seeing the entirety of YOUR idea, but the OP seems to be playing with people here IMO.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 535559 10/26/2008 5:13 PM
And shove your HNO and the also NWO BTW, through you f****ng a**!:-)
FUCKING ASS.
Lets be honest.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 535021
hehe,
What kind of "honesty" is that of a poster that call himself Agent and wants to change the world with a bunch of ill-defined concepts like "technology doom" and "Ancient ethnocentrism", and gives no links to his statements, and claims to have had a "little participation" in changing the minds of the powerful elite of the world, and worse than all the above, want us to *believe* him?
Because he says that he is honest?!
Give me a break, eh!
a
Anonymous Coward User ID: 529210 10/26/2008 5:25 PM
what makes you think organizing society can prevent anything?
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The faith in the goodness of openess and honestly among humans?
if people are good and honest
they can do their own networking
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 535559
yes, honest and good hearted people doesn't need an "elite" to exert control over them.
I believe that even the American constitution has some ideas about minimizing the government as a *goal* the really mature societies. It's an old aspiration, the less "elite" the better!
Now a society that calls itself "Utopia" is something that I really have serious doubts about...
thanks for your post Restart.
Very pacific and wise words that I totally agree.
I'll make only a few brief comments, according to my perceptions:
I think it is alot of good hearted and minded people here,
that are now reading these words...
on the other side of this screen, theres alot of emotions connected to these times..
The insecurity on what tomorrow will 'bring' us, the powerlessness and frustration over the large forces in motion.
.......
Quoting: Restart
the great changes in history have always been present but I think we're living specially critical times now where humanity is about to become "one" and it's important to know clearly what kind of "oneness" we want for us and our descendants.
is it possible to learn from mistakes, and through what is posted by each and everyone -
HELP GUIDE without attacking?
I felt the sincerity from several posters,
their longing for a change, and how they lit up
by the though of actually that someone IN POWERPOSITION
had the WILL and attempt to DO GOOD - in service to others,
and not only service to self...
Ah, how many of US, do that ourselves?
Right now...
Do we reach out to them we feel resonate with our own intent
or are we here to 'spread disharmony' and divide through conflicts point out flaws and judge, cast blame...
Everyone is entitled to their opinion - that is democrasy.
And many reactions are NORMAL REACTION TO ABNORMAL SITUATION.
......
Quoting: Restart
I agree that the best way is always to try to relate with each other in as much harmony and respect as possible, although some topics sometimes get a little *hot* and people loose their temper sometimes.
To be perfectly *honest* I was lead to say harsh things to the OP because he had IMO continuously disrespected people with beliefs in the spiritual part of human life, neglecting it as delusional or fruit of "ancient" cultural "brainwashing", which I totally disagree.
I believe the OP is totally entitled to his beliefs but he has NO right to disrespect or disdain the people who believe differently and I took to myself, as other poster have done similarly too, to defend our right to disagree and point the obvious mistakes of the posts of the OP.
Notice that I'm NOT talking here about others posters who may really be honest about their perception of the world and the possibility of creating an Utopia out of the present condition of human society.
I believe the OP is just playing a game with the other posters and he seems to have no intention to raise to the level of the sincerity of the other posters.
Though... just for a little moment, contemplate on this:
WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT?
and, HOW can you CREATE and MANIFEST that?
Constructive?
WE ARE RIGHT NOW CREATING HISTORY...
Im not talking about those with a service-to self agenda,
we all have that in our private sphere, I mean here.
A philosophical video to contemplate on... THIS IS HOW IMPORTANT *YOU* ARE! LIVE EARTH MOVEMENT -CAN YOU SAVE THE PLANET?
I believe with you that we're now creating history and there is always the best way to do that, and it would be great if tomorrow, or in a 100 years for that matter, the "elite" would step down their comfort and really try to help people around them in a truly STO way.
But, honestly, do you see this happening?
Do you see, for example, the Pope abandoning his riches and going to a poor country out there to live with those that need the most?
Or do you see ANY of the present world leaders doing anything that would remotely be similar to this?
If you responded negatively to these questions then I believe you can understand why I think that the notion of STO "elite" is essentially a contradiction and, more than that, a really STO human society would NEVER accept the idea that their leaders belong to any kind of "elite".
They would rather be the greatest SERVANTS of all. A "spiritual elite" if you want.
Now, that is an idea that I can understand as truly "heavenly" or the true realization of an Utopia, but I *honestly* cannot see it happening without a deep feeling of high spirituality in human life, a change in perception and attitude.
Therefore, I believe the OP is NOT seriously intending for the good of all, but otherwise.
.......
"IT IS THE ABSOLUTE RESPONSIBILITY OF EVERYBODY IN UNIFORM TO DISOBEY AN ORDER THAT IS EITHER ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL"
- General Peter Pace, chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff addressing the National Press Club, Feb 17/06 "Command Override"
. Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people.”
-Eleanor Roosevelt
your being told what to do (ordered?)but im brainwashed? mabe so this i sprobably all an illusion anyway right?
Quoting: rachel 529732
Hey rachel, brainwashed are those who don't believe in their greater self and think that life is a game, and that all we have to do is to play it nicely, of course, according to rules of the "elite".
This OP is playing with us here and you should not trust him.
We're living great times where the best we can do IMO is to trust our deepest beliefs and follow them no matter what.
THIS is the only *honesty* that makes sense to me!
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