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| OP User ID: 534467 11/1/2008 9:47 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Here is something curious~
Jeff Rense, who is the blogger who interviews Ben Fulford regularly on his radio show, has a headline link on his site:
Rand WWIII Recommendation Likely Disinfo
The link leads to the regular article~ one version of it.
[ link to www.dailynewscaster.com]
No other comment by Rense, just that headline up today~
Look for it here~ [ link to www.rense.com]
He is the guy who is in touch with Fulford...
OP, any ideas about this?
Last nite I requested more info from Ben Fulford to clarify all this info that is leaping out at us.
I have to wonder if this was not directed to me as an answer to this request...this is one step away from Ben Fulford.
I go to Rense and another site to see if Ben has anything new up, so they would know this if they are watching.
It is in the first section of headlines, can't be missed, but not too obvious.
If that is so..heart pounding...that completely blows my mind.
OP what do you think? Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783
This is easy. It is a fact that they have these types of discussions always. If all the discussions that the Pentagon had went public you wouldn't believe it.
Just because they discuss something, doesn't, in any way, mean they are going to do that which was discussed. |
| OP User ID: 534467 11/1/2008 9:53 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
I understand very well the techniques the OP is using – I’m sure many others do but couldn’t be bothered to respond..
You are negative and on the wrong team OP, a minor player and you know fully well that this is the case. The only person that contacted you was your boss in the think tank. Quoting: WL1 540432
Nope. Everything I've said is true as stated. I'm not part of existing think tanks. I'm independent.
If they do decide to do WWIII and kill a hell of a lot of people, just remember the fundamentals:
We need to work towards a world that rejects the ancient ethnocentric order and replaces it with an enlightened order based on the fundamentals of Pandora’s box of technology being open rather than closed. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 534467 11/1/2008 10:03 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
This fact keeps flying over everyone’s heads right here.
This OP keeps repeating throughout this thread that 'they' might decide to wipe out a couple of billion if 'they' feel like it, and talks of will they or won't they on the doomsday weapon -all dependant on their moody mood - or as in this post above he says 'Even if the elite kill half the human population...'. Quoting: WL1 540432
Don't fear reality. Embrace it. Doomsday technology is reality and has been for about a hundred years.
You haven’t seen a display of the technology, understood. Are you a person that understands the use of such technology to generate hurricanes, earthquakes, and other "nature disasters?"
That’s just the tip of the iceberg of what secret technology is capable of.
It is important that you fully understand that…BUT, it is understood that you haven’t been given a direct display of the technology.
This may open the door to yet another event associated with this thread at the appropriate time. This one would need to show you some of the technology directly; yet still keep it low profile enough to remain nothing more than a “probing” as I stated originally on this thread. Oh, I’m sure there is a “think-tank” reviewing this thread, and other things I do, but I am working independently.
This is the world you were born into; that we were born into. We do the best we can with the reality that is here.
I’m just curious. You stated that I’m on the wrong side. Who has super technology on the other side? What is the other side?
My side is, in fact, the side of honesty and truth. I do not work for the Western or the Far Eastern secret societies. I do have a generally “Buddhist” mind if you understand the fundamental philosophies of that. I am a naturalist by label. |
| WL1 User ID: 540432 11/2/2008 1:22 AM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
This fact keeps flying over everyone’s heads right here.
This OP keeps repeating throughout this thread that 'they' might decide to wipe out a couple of billion if 'they' feel like it, and talks of will they or won't they on the doomsday weapon -all dependant on their moody mood - or as in this post above he says 'Even if the elite kill half the human population...'.
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Don't fear reality. Embrace it. Doomsday technology is reality and has been for about a hundred years.
You haven’t seen a display of the technology, understood. Are you a person that understands the use of such technology to generate hurricanes, earthquakes, and other "nature disasters?"
That’s just the tip of the iceberg of what secret technology is capable of.
It is important that you fully understand that…BUT, it is understood that you haven’t been given a direct display of the technology.
This may open the door to yet another event associated with this thread at the appropriate time. This one would need to show you some of the technology directly; yet still keep it low profile enough to remain nothing more than a “probing” as I stated originally on this thread. Oh, I’m sure there is a “think-tank” reviewing this thread, and other things I do, but I am working independently.
This is the world you were born into; that we were born into. We do the best we can with the reality that is here.
I’m just curious. You stated that I’m on the wrong side. Who has super technology on the other side? What is the other side?
My side is, in fact, the side of honesty and truth. I do not work for the Western or the Far Eastern secret societies. I do have a generally “Buddhist” mind if you understand the fundamental philosophies of that. I am a naturalist by label. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 534467
'Don't fear reality. Embrace it.'
Whos reality - yours, the elites. That is not my reality.
I don't care how the world looked when I came into it or how it looks through dark glasses. It sure IS NOT going to stay that way for long, it is inevitable and I will not accept it or make the most of it (while some on this globe are dying in filth and poverty while others are swanning around on billion dollar yachts sipping vintage champagne paid for by criminal bank cartel profits or wars – u name the crime). I have the Power of the Divine Creator behind me as do all the others on this world that are here at this important time to see through The Divine Plan. There is no word called new world order in the blueprints, it is All to change and All to be new and is without some forcefully imposed external order. That is to be left behind, part of the old.
There is no elite in the new plan. we all get to play with the same toys from the same box when as as we like. You don't need to promise honesty as a concession - that will be a given as we will be able to see through all that is false. If you choose to follow the dark world paradigm instead I guess you will get to face this new world order plan up close and personal. Maybe you will have to return to the start and repeat all of this cycle again.
I don't need a display to show me what HAARP, directed energy weapons, plasma beam weapons or scalar weapons can do - I have indirectly seen the carnage that was caused in testing some of these smaller weapons in Lebanon and the middle east - burned and charred bodies of innocents – microwaved or blasted with energy weapons. That was enough to understand the mind-set of those that develop these weapons. Not to mention the tsunami, hurricane and earthquake victims. Am I supposed to be impressed by their awesome power to cause death and destruction because the most advance of all technology is always kept for war while the trivial stuff is released to the masses. Like these old computers and cave-man internet systems released to the masses as a concession -a distraction. If they had any real intention of being honest they would have released free energy systems ages ago, not now when their backs are to the wall and they are needing to use it as a negotiating tool. Too little, far, far too late.
‘ They’ need to realize this simple fact.
The potential of the tech was obvious to anybody that knew what Nikola Tesla was up to and was aware of the nazis post ww2 that were shipped out to the US to continue all the secret developments with rockets and ufo's, weather wars, geo-engineering and most probably at this stage trying to play God by tampering with earths resonant frequencies and interfering with the sun itself, and the CERN issue.
Many of us here could probably write a book about HAARP, list their multiple precise global locations and waffle on for hours about the application of elf and vlf and ultra high frequency waves - upper ionospheric heating - charging ions negatively vs. positively, plasma shields and weapons, basic weather war applications and their use in creating earthquakes (messing with the earths natural resonance), and mapping undersea /earth bases. Obvious weather control causing drought, food and water shortage, hurricane steering (old news) and mind control, brain frequency tampering and constant interference from their lovely little grid of towers and satellites on a global scale.
Do you think that because they showed you a trick or two that you are now an expert on all of this. None of this is new.
By sides that you are on - I don't mean east versus west and all that cold war old stuff, I mean for example:
The positive side that is on the side of the greater good for ALL humanity. The side that wishes for Humanity to progress naturally on to the next stage of development beyond here and beyond this endless repetitive cycle that has falsely been set up or maintained. (Or do you promote accepting this slave cycle existence as if it were as nature intended). A world without economic and social gaps, extremes and class systems. Nothing at all to do with bogus democratic systems, communism or socialism or any other ism. The Basic Right of Freedom to grow and learn on an equal footing from an equal start. The side that treats every single human being as equal from birth to death regardless of bloodline or global position. A world that is devoid of small groups of people hoarding all the wealth be it resources or goods, one that is devoid of criminal gangs or the need for such activity, no more competing negative factions, royals and elites etc.
Ultimately a world that I think the elite would rather die than have and would rather try to take the world down with them. The negative dark elite and their allies Will FAIL.
Versus--------------
The wrong side - the side that is willing to 'allow' the lower forms of humanity - the lower classes, the peasants, the working slaves to carry on living (working for peanuts) in their elite world within the elites new paradigm parameters that allows for a few technological treats to be thrown in to keep the slaves happy and quiet - maybe a form of free energy or distracting shiny things - maybe an electronic implant or two to help them pay for food using the governments points system and as long as they are good and subservient to the elite masters they will be treated fairly (a subjective word), but will always be subjects of the ruling bloodlines and if not compliant will be accused of building destructive weapons or being a terrorist of some sort, maybe an anarchist or they are just physically removed with this wonderful 'new' energy technology. This side has many factions and competing kings and queens and gang kingpins trying to own the world and play god.
Oldest trick in the book. To give the people technology to distract them from the haves and the have mores. Didn't the computer and digital shiny age dot com boom already try to do that?
If you play for this team then you will surely know that the culling of most of the population is an absolute urgent must, a necessity. They will say that it is the only way to ensure the earths survival (and to reduce the so-called useless feeders that can't contribute to lining the elites pockets). That's also what all the globally induced food shortages and water shortages have been about never mind the money. Geo-engineering through chemtrails, HAARP, satellites and whatever other toys blah blah. This team and their strategies ALL lead in one direction and they are so stupid and blindly greedy that they can't even see it coming.
You can't play on both teams - it's either or..........
They don't mix very well.
As far as being curious about 'Who has super technology on the other side?'
Put it this way the positive beings on Earth have many different positively oriented allies. Beings seen and unseen. The government black op technology of which you speak clearly originates from the negative non-human entities that have been around for a long, long time as well. Do you really think the governments were given the best quality out-of this world technology from the greys or reps. They were treated like the children that they are and probably given the bare minimum to be able to keep the masses under control. All those scary weapons that the factions have could be taken out and disabled pretty easily. It has become very apparent with the disabled nuke facilities and failed missile tests. Why do you think they haven't been able to really start their wars and set off all their suitcase nukes etc. They are bluffing.
The Reptilians or the dark allied forces are sure into stealth, control from afar and deception with technology so it would make a lot of sense that they would be the ones behind impressing people with flashy tech before they enter the world stage in their proposed final grand deception. But of course you probably don’t believe in all that stuff do you??? It’s just little powerful Rockefeller and Rothschild and the thirteen or so bloodline families that are so all powerful(not) and deceptive.
Are you sure you are really on the side of honesty and truth because in actuality it is YOU that has to make a choice. To continue to follow the same old masters that think the same old tired tricks can be employed time after time or do you really wish to move up to the new world that is not just about truth and honesty it is also about Love and Compassion and Equality for all fellow beings - a return to our True Potential.
To Re-Member.
Being truthful and honest in your paradigm doesn't mean you wouldn't kill off a billion or three in the name of truth and honesty and democracy (or because they were building those pesky doomsday weapons. Where have I heard that one before?) Like certain countries that truthfully announce they are going into other countries to honestly liberate them and give them the gift of democracy. Words like those are easy to twist. You can't fool all of the people ALL of the time.
Lastly -
I respect Buddhists but I feel that if you were in touch with your spiritual side none of this so-called technology paradigm would impress you as much as pure untainted (and non-tampered-with) nature itself although you do say ‘I am a naturalist by label’. The really impressive stuff doesn't need technology (a true Buddhist would know) so I would see lots of clashing going on with all the different faiths and different ways to view and use technology - same as before. Unless of course they plan to introduce a new technologically based faith as well. It won’t work.
They really need to think a bit more carefully on this. It is also their futures at stake and not the Wall street futures - those will be in the past.
Anyway I've said more than enough now.
Peace to You in whatever choice you make. |
| Just a Note. User ID: 540602 11/2/2008 2:18 AM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote | Anyone who Thinks they have a device of any kind that the One True God Can't Stop has a Real Problem on their Hands.
The Ultamate POWER Resides in GOD's Hands and NOT Some dark lord of deception.
TPTB Are not going to be Happy if they Push God's Hand.
Can you say It's off to The Abys for YOU.
Some will UNDERSTAND.
GOD Always WINS in the END Game. Are You All (TPTB) SHURE You wana Go Down That ROAD Belive ME It Will NOT Be A Fun Ride...
We ALL Shall C Wont we.
U All Have a Good One.
Just ME.

James, On Assignment, Soul Contract with The Throne Of GOD, Licensed, Bonded and Insured By The Throne of GOD.
I Chose to Live in Peace and May I ask What is Your Choice. |
| Annie Oakley User ID: 503783 11/2/2008 10:27 AM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote | Third way. |
| SHITTY SHIT User ID: 491857 11/2/2008 10:35 AM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
you really didn't say anything of any relevance OP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507953
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| Annie Oakley User ID: 503783 11/2/2008 11:31 AM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote | It is not so much about the OP as it is about the posters who are breaking out of the chains to discuss this.
your post is useless. |
| Annie Oakley User ID: 503783 11/2/2008 11:32 AM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote | That was meant for shitty shit's post... |
| OP User ID: 540970 11/2/2008 2:20 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
No more suggestions. This is the list. They can do one, some or none. It's up to them.
1. Houston/Spring Texas near the woodlands Earthquake, like 3-4 magnitude, or a UFO that makes the news.
2. Power outage in a major city that makes the news. (I think this one is too much to ask for guys...it effects too many people).
3. I'll suggest one more: Hello elite, this is me. I either want to talk with you know who, or I want you to put a hurricane through the location; it's time. I won't reveal the location here. Obviously, it's easier to let me talk with you know who, so please do that (doesn't help people here, but it helps me).
Wow... now I'm really starting to get impressed.
[ link to news.yahoo.com]
They did the quake. It was near Irving. 3.0 mag at 12:01 AM, October 31.
A 2.5-magnitude quake at 11:25 p.m. Thursday near Grand Prairie was followed by a series of other small earthquakes in the Dallas suburb, then a 3.0-magnitude quake at 12:01 a.m. Friday in nearby Irving, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. Quoting: OP 534467
Did anyone notice something even more interesting about the timing of this quake?
Before, I said an even could be scheduled for October 30. The quake happened as 12:01 October 31, almost as if to maintain the credibility of this thread since the October 30 event did not happen.
Although, I did mention that the October 30 event may not be anything…and it turned out to be nothing. Nevertheless, they decided to do this quake as 12:01 on the following day to maintain the credibility of this thread.
For that, I say to them, thanks. |
| OP User ID: 540970 11/2/2008 2:21 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote | I just noticed that my IP address changed again...that will happen ongoing so just get used to it. I'll identify myself as OP and you can be sure that impersonators will be easily identified. |
| OP User ID: 540970 11/2/2008 2:22 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Before, I said an even could be scheduled for October 30. The quake happened as 12:01 October 31, almost as if to maintain the credibility of this thread since the October 30 event did not happen.
Although, I did mention that the October 30 event may not be anything…and it turned out to be nothing. Nevertheless, they decided to do this quake as 12:01 on the following day to maintain the credibility of this thread.
For that, I say to them, thanks. Quoting: OP 540970
Correction:
"before I said an EVENT" (not even)
Sorry. I'll try to be more careful to review what I type. |
| OP User ID: 540970 11/2/2008 2:26 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Did anyone notice something even more interesting about the timing of this quake?
Before, I said an even could be scheduled for October 30. The quake happened as 12:01 October 31, almost as if to maintain the credibility of this thread since the October 30 event did not happen.
Although, I did mention that the October 30 event may not be anything…and it turned out to be nothing. Nevertheless, they decided to do this quake as 12:01 on the following day to maintain the credibility of this thread.
For that, I say to them, thanks. Quoting: OP 540970
I really do apologize...I was in a rush when I typed this before.
Correction:
"decided to do this quake at 12:01" (not as 12:01)
And I should have said ON THE FIRST MINUTE OF THE FOLLOWING DAY.
Frankly, it was done on the very first minute of the following day to prevent credibility from being lost from this thread.
Think about that folks. |
| True Believer User ID: 507408 11/2/2008 2:36 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote | I believe the New World Order will be finally be implement it, right after WWIII just like the EU came right after WWII. There has to be chaos in order to implement a solution, an economic crisis by itself will not do, we might see it before 2009 ends. |
| Annie Oakley User ID: 503783 11/2/2008 2:45 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote | Yes, that is something, OP... ;>
...funny how the mind fills in the blanks when there are typos...I had no problem with understanding what you wrote.
This is a known phenomenon.
I accept that my request for some information from Ben Fulford before the election was answered as well, in the form of the Rense headline.
So thanks for listening and responding. |
| OP User ID: 540970 11/2/2008 2:57 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
1. 'Don't fear reality. Embrace it.'
Whos reality - yours, the elites. That is not my reality.
I don't care how the world looked when I came into it or how it looks through dark glasses. It sure IS NOT going to stay that way for long, it is inevitable and I will not accept it or make the most of it (while some on this globe are dying in filth and poverty while others are swanning around on billion dollar yachts sipping vintage champagne paid for by criminal bank cartel profits or wars – u name the crime).
2. I have the Power of the Divine Creator behind me as do all the others on this world that are here at this important time to see through The Divine Plan. There is no word called new world order in the blueprints, it is All to change and All to be new and is without some forcefully imposed external order. That is to be left behind, part of the old.
3. There is no elite in the new plan. we all get to play with the same toys from the same box when as as we like. You don't need to promise honesty as a concession - that will be a given as we will be able to see through all that is false. If you choose to follow the dark world paradigm instead I guess you will get to face this new world order plan up close and personal. Maybe you will have to return to the start and repeat all of this cycle again.
4. I don't need a display to show me what HAARP, directed energy weapons, plasma beam weapons or scalar weapons can do - I have indirectly seen the carnage that was caused in testing some of these smaller weapons in Lebanon and the middle east - burned and charred bodies of innocents – microwaved or blasted with energy weapons. That was enough to understand the mind-set of those that develop these weapons. Not to mention the tsunami, hurricane and earthquake victims. Am I supposed to be impressed by their awesome power to cause death and destruction because the most advance of all technology is always kept for war while the trivial stuff is released to the masses. Like these old computers and cave-man internet systems released to the masses as a concession -a distraction. If they had any real intention of being honest they would have released free energy systems ages ago, not now when their backs are to the wall and they are needing to use it as a negotiating tool. Too little, far, far too late.
‘ They’ need to realize this simple fact.
5. The potential of the tech was obvious to anybody that knew what Nikola Tesla was up to and was aware of the nazis post ww2 that were shipped out to the US to continue all the secret developments with rockets and ufo's, weather wars, geo-engineering and most probably at this stage trying to play God by tampering with earths resonant frequencies and interfering with the sun itself, and the CERN issue.
Many of us here could probably write a book about HAARP, list their multiple precise global locations and waffle on for hours about the application of elf and vlf and ultra high frequency waves - upper ionospheric heating - charging ions negatively vs. positively, plasma shields and weapons, basic weather war applications and their use in creating earthquakes (messing with the earths natural resonance), and mapping undersea /earth bases. Obvious weather control causing drought, food and water shortage, hurricane steering (old news) and mind control, brain frequency tampering and constant interference from their lovely little grid of towers and satellites on a global scale.
6. Do you think that because they showed you a trick or two that you are now an expert on all of this. None of this is new.
7. By sides that you are on - I don't mean east versus west and all that cold war old stuff, I mean for example:
The positive side that is on the side of the greater good for ALL humanity. The side that wishes for Humanity to progress naturally on to the next stage of development beyond here and beyond this endless repetitive cycle that has falsely been set up or maintained. (Or do you promote accepting this slave cycle existence as if it were as nature intended). A world without economic and social gaps, extremes and class systems. Nothing at all to do with bogus democratic systems, communism or socialism or any other ism. The Basic Right of Freedom to grow and learn on an equal footing from an equal start. The side that treats every single human being as equal from birth to death regardless of bloodline or global position. A world that is devoid of small groups of people hoarding all the wealth be it resources or goods, one that is devoid of criminal gangs or the need for such activity, no more competing negative factions, royals and elites etc.
Ultimately a world that I think the elite would rather die than have and would rather try to take the world down with them. The negative dark elite and their allies Will FAIL.
Versus--------------
8. The wrong side - the side that is willing to 'allow' the lower forms of humanity - the lower classes, the peasants, the working slaves to carry on living (working for peanuts) in their elite world within the elites new paradigm parameters that allows for a few technological treats to be thrown in to keep the slaves happy and quiet - maybe a form of free energy or distracting shiny things - maybe an electronic implant or two to help them pay for food using the governments points system and as long as they are good and subservient to the elite masters they will be treated fairly (a subjective word), but will always be subjects of the ruling bloodlines and if not compliant will be accused of building destructive weapons or being a terrorist of some sort, maybe an anarchist or they are just physically removed with this wonderful 'new' energy technology. This side has many factions and competing kings and queens and gang kingpins trying to own the world and play god.
9. Oldest trick in the book. To give the people technology to distract them from the haves and the have mores. Didn't the computer and digital shiny age dot com boom already try to do that?
10. If you play for this team then you will surely know that the culling of most of the population is an absolute urgent must, a necessity. They will say that it is the only way to ensure the earths survival (and to reduce the so-called useless feeders that can't contribute to lining the elites pockets). That's also what all the globally induced food shortages and water shortages have been about never mind the money. Geo-engineering through chemtrails, HAARP, satellites and whatever other toys blah blah. This team and their strategies ALL lead in one direction and they are so stupid and blindly greedy that they can't even see it coming.
11. You can't play on both teams - it's either or..........
They don't mix very well.
12. As far as being curious about 'Who has super technology on the other side?'
Put it this way the positive beings on Earth have many different positively oriented allies. Beings seen and unseen. The government black op technology of which you speak clearly originates from the negative non-human entities that have been around for a long, long time as well. Do you really think the governments were given the best quality out-of this world technology from the greys or reps. They were treated like the children that they are and probably given the bare minimum to be able to keep the masses under control. All those scary weapons that the factions have could be taken out and disabled pretty easily. It has become very apparent with the disabled nuke facilities and failed missile tests. Why do you think they haven't been able to really start their wars and set off all their suitcase nukes etc. They are bluffing.
The Reptilians or the dark allied forces are sure into stealth, control from afar and deception with technology so it would make a lot of sense that they would be the ones behind impressing people with flashy tech before they enter the world stage in their proposed final grand deception. But of course you probably don’t believe in all that stuff do you??? It’s just little powerful Rockefeller and Rothschild and the thirteen or so bloodline families that are so all powerful(not) and deceptive.
13. Are you sure you are really on the side of honesty and truth because in actuality it is YOU that has to make a choice. To continue to follow the same old masters that think the same old tired tricks can be employed time after time or do you really wish to move up to the new world that is not just about truth and honesty it is also about Love and Compassion and Equality for all fellow beings - a return to our True Potential.
To Re-Member.
14. Being truthful and honest in your paradigm doesn't mean you wouldn't kill off a billion or three in the name of truth and honesty and democracy (or because they were building those pesky doomsday weapons. Where have I heard that one before?) Like certain countries that truthfully announce they are going into other countries to honestly liberate them and give them the gift of democracy. Words like those are easy to twist. You can't fool all of the people ALL of the time.
15. Lastly -
I respect Buddhists but I feel that if you were in touch with your spiritual side none of this so-called technology paradigm would impress you as much as pure untainted (and non-tampered-with) nature itself although you do say ‘I am a naturalist by label’. The really impressive stuff doesn't need technology (a true Buddhist would know) so I would see lots of clashing going on with all the different faiths and different ways to view and use technology - same as before. Unless of course they plan to introduce a new technologically based faith as well. It won’t work.
They really need to think a bit more carefully on this. It is also their futures at stake and not the Wall street futures - those will be in the past.
Anyway I've said more than enough now.
Peace to You in whatever choice you make. Quoting: WL1 540432
You sure do talk a lot.
1. The reality is that Pandora's box of doomsday technology is open. With this technology comes the means for we the people to protect ourselves from natural doomsday events (asteroids etc...), but also the means to destroy ourselves. We can't close Pandora's box, because then we could not protect ourselves from nature.
2. This is funny…you say it is all to change and all to be new, yet you say it will not be a “new world order.” Semantics. You can believe in a Divine plan. We the people decide the course of that plan.
3. There will always be an elite of sorts. You could call them the wise sages or whatever. Kids are the most dangerous thing on planet Earth. Kids, knowing nothing, and doomsday technology do not mix. There must be absolute control over the development of dangerous technology. Those who are the leaders of this control could be called “the elite” but the fundamental difference in an honest world order is that you know exactly who they are and what their role in society is. You can rise into the ranks of “the elite” if you are wise and able enough.
4. So you are aware…yet you are not really aware. Release of free energy would have caused the death of all people already. It must be done carefully.
5. Same as #4
6. No, I’m not an expert on the technology details…yet I’m far more aware than you regarding the full ramifications of it.
7. This is the honest world order – that’s the side you apparently are on. It really is whether you know it or not.
8. That is the old world order based on deception. I’m not for that…that’s why I’m here. Did you miss that?
9. All true. Tricks, deception, brainwashing.
10. The culling is primarily to maintain the ancient ethnocentric order. That is where the elite and I have a fundamental difference. If culling is necessary for the technology paradigm ALONE, this it must be…but I’ve never once said that it is necessary for that reason alone. I have discussed this in the OP and else ware on this thread.
11. Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
12. I know what you are saying, but don’t underestimate the technology they do have right now.
13. Yes, I’m working towards the honest world order.
14. See #15
15. Sacrificing half the population so the rest can continue on is OK within the Buddhist religion. I’d say you don’t truly understand the notion of Buddhist sacrifice. But I have not said it is necessary to cull billions. I’ve said, if it is necessary to prevent doomsday, then of course it should happen. But it must be very, very clear WHY it is necessary. It can’t be ,”Well, it might be necessary so let’s just do it to make sure.” |
| OP User ID: 540970 11/2/2008 2:57 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
1. 'Don't fear reality. Embrace it.'
Whos reality - yours, the elites. That is not my reality.
I don't care how the world looked when I came into it or how it looks through dark glasses. It sure IS NOT going to stay that way for long, it is inevitable and I will not accept it or make the most of it (while some on this globe are dying in filth and poverty while others are swanning around on billion dollar yachts sipping vintage champagne paid for by criminal bank cartel profits or wars – u name the crime).
2. I have the Power of the Divine Creator behind me as do all the others on this world that are here at this important time to see through The Divine Plan. There is no word called new world order in the blueprints, it is All to change and All to be new and is without some forcefully imposed external order. That is to be left behind, part of the old.
3. There is no elite in the new plan. we all get to play with the same toys from the same box when as as we like. You don't need to promise honesty as a concession - that will be a given as we will be able to see through all that is false. If you choose to follow the dark world paradigm instead I guess you will get to face this new world order plan up close and personal. Maybe you will have to return to the start and repeat all of this cycle again.
4. I don't need a display to show me what HAARP, directed energy weapons, plasma beam weapons or scalar weapons can do - I have indirectly seen the carnage that was caused in testing some of these smaller weapons in Lebanon and the middle east - burned and charred bodies of innocents – microwaved or blasted with energy weapons. That was enough to understand the mind-set of those that develop these weapons. Not to mention the tsunami, hurricane and earthquake victims. Am I supposed to be impressed by their awesome power to cause death and destruction because the most advance of all technology is always kept for war while the trivial stuff is released to the masses. Like these old computers and cave-man internet systems released to the masses as a concession -a distraction. If they had any real intention of being honest they would have released free energy systems ages ago, not now when their backs are to the wall and they are needing to use it as a negotiating tool. Too little, far, far too late.
‘ They’ need to realize this simple fact.
5. The potential of the tech was obvious to anybody that knew what Nikola Tesla was up to and was aware of the nazis post ww2 that were shipped out to the US to continue all the secret developments with rockets and ufo's, weather wars, geo-engineering and most probably at this stage trying to play God by tampering with earths resonant frequencies and interfering with the sun itself, and the CERN issue.
Many of us here could probably write a book about HAARP, list their multiple precise global locations and waffle on for hours about the application of elf and vlf and ultra high frequency waves - upper ionospheric heating - charging ions negatively vs. positively, plasma shields and weapons, basic weather war applications and their use in creating earthquakes (messing with the earths natural resonance), and mapping undersea /earth bases. Obvious weather control causing drought, food and water shortage, hurricane steering (old news) and mind control, brain frequency tampering and constant interference from their lovely little grid of towers and satellites on a global scale.
6. Do you think that because they showed you a trick or two that you are now an expert on all of this. None of this is new.
7. By sides that you are on - I don't mean east versus west and all that cold war old stuff, I mean for example:
The positive side that is on the side of the greater good for ALL humanity. The side that wishes for Humanity to progress naturally on to the next stage of development beyond here and beyond this endless repetitive cycle that has falsely been set up or maintained. (Or do you promote accepting this slave cycle existence as if it were as nature intended). A world without economic and social gaps, extremes and class systems. Nothing at all to do with bogus democratic systems, communism or socialism or any other ism. The Basic Right of Freedom to grow and learn on an equal footing from an equal start. The side that treats every single human being as equal from birth to death regardless of bloodline or global position. A world that is devoid of small groups of people hoarding all the wealth be it resources or goods, one that is devoid of criminal gangs or the need for such activity, no more competing negative factions, royals and elites etc.
Ultimately a world that I think the elite would rather die than have and would rather try to take the world down with them. The negative dark elite and their allies Will FAIL.
Versus--------------
8. The wrong side - the side that is willing to 'allow' the lower forms of humanity - the lower classes, the peasants, the working slaves to carry on living (working for peanuts) in their elite world within the elites new paradigm parameters that allows for a few technological treats to be thrown in to keep the slaves happy and quiet - maybe a form of free energy or distracting shiny things - maybe an electronic implant or two to help them pay for food using the governments points system and as long as they are good and subservient to the elite masters they will be treated fairly (a subjective word), but will always be subjects of the ruling bloodlines and if not compliant will be accused of building destructive weapons or being a terrorist of some sort, maybe an anarchist or they are just physically removed with this wonderful 'new' energy technology. This side has many factions and competing kings and queens and gang kingpins trying to own the world and play god.
9. Oldest trick in the book. To give the people technology to distract them from the haves and the have mores. Didn't the computer and digital shiny age dot com boom already try to do that?
10. If you play for this team then you will surely know that the culling of most of the population is an absolute urgent must, a necessity. They will say that it is the only way to ensure the earths survival (and to reduce the so-called useless feeders that can't contribute to lining the elites pockets). That's also what all the globally induced food shortages and water shortages have been about never mind the money. Geo-engineering through chemtrails, HAARP, satellites and whatever other toys blah blah. This team and their strategies ALL lead in one direction and they are so stupid and blindly greedy that they can't even see it coming.
11. You can't play on both teams - it's either or..........
They don't mix very well.
12. As far as being curious about 'Who has super technology on the other side?'
Put it this way the positive beings on Earth have many different positively oriented allies. Beings seen and unseen. The government black op technology of which you speak clearly originates from the negative non-human entities that have been around for a long, long time as well. Do you really think the governments were given the best quality out-of this world technology from the greys or reps. They were treated like the children that they are and probably given the bare minimum to be able to keep the masses under control. All those scary weapons that the factions have could be taken out and disabled pretty easily. It has become very apparent with the disabled nuke facilities and failed missile tests. Why do you think they haven't been able to really start their wars and set off all their suitcase nukes etc. They are bluffing.
The Reptilians or the dark allied forces are sure into stealth, control from afar and deception with technology so it would make a lot of sense that they would be the ones behind impressing people with flashy tech before they enter the world stage in their proposed final grand deception. But of course you probably don’t believe in all that stuff do you??? It’s just little powerful Rockefeller and Rothschild and the thirteen or so bloodline families that are so all powerful(not) and deceptive.
13. Are you sure you are really on the side of honesty and truth because in actuality it is YOU that has to make a choice. To continue to follow the same old masters that think the same old tired tricks can be employed time after time or do you really wish to move up to the new world that is not just about truth and honesty it is also about Love and Compassion and Equality for all fellow beings - a return to our True Potential.
To Re-Member.
14. Being truthful and honest in your paradigm doesn't mean you wouldn't kill off a billion or three in the name of truth and honesty and democracy (or because they were building those pesky doomsday weapons. Where have I heard that one before?) Like certain countries that truthfully announce they are going into other countries to honestly liberate them and give them the gift of democracy. Words like those are easy to twist. You can't fool all of the people ALL of the time.
15. Lastly -
I respect Buddhists but I feel that if you were in touch with your spiritual side none of this so-called technology paradigm would impress you as much as pure untainted (and non-tampered-with) nature itself although you do say ‘I am a naturalist by label’. The really impressive stuff doesn't need technology (a true Buddhist would know) so I would see lots of clashing going on with all the different faiths and different ways to view and use technology - same as before. Unless of course they plan to introduce a new technologically based faith as well. It won’t work.
They really need to think a bit more carefully on this. It is also their futures at stake and not the Wall street futures - those will be in the past.
Anyway I've said more than enough now.
Peace to You in whatever choice you make. Quoting: WL1 540432
You sure do talk a lot.
1. The reality is that Pandora's box of doomsday technology is open. With this technology comes the means for we the people to protect ourselves from natural doomsday events (asteroids etc...), but also the means to destroy ourselves. We can't close Pandora's box, because then we could not protect ourselves from nature.
2. This is funny…you say it is all to change and all to be new, yet you say it will not be a “new world order.” Semantics. You can believe in a Divine plan. We the people decide the course of that plan.
3. There will always be an elite of sorts. You could call them the wise sages or whatever. Kids are the most dangerous thing on planet Earth. Kids, knowing nothing, and doomsday technology do not mix. There must be absolute control over the development of dangerous technology. Those who are the leaders of this control could be called “the elite” but the fundamental difference in an honest world order is that you know exactly who they are and what their role in society is. You can rise into the ranks of “the elite” if you are wise and able enough.
4. So you are aware…yet you are not really aware. Release of free energy would have caused the death of all people already. It must be done carefully.
5. Same as #4
6. No, I’m not an expert on the technology details…yet I’m far more aware than you regarding the full ramifications of it.
7. This is the honest world order – that’s the side you apparently are on. It really is whether you know it or not.
8. That is the old world order based on deception. I’m not for that…that’s why I’m here. Did you miss that?
9. All true. Tricks, deception, brainwashing.
10. The culling is primarily to maintain the ancient ethnocentric order. That is where the elite and I have a fundamental difference. If culling is necessary for the technology paradigm ALONE, this it must be…but I’ve never once said that it is necessary for that reason alone. I have discussed this in the OP and else ware on this thread.
11. Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
12. I know what you are saying, but don’t underestimate the technology they do have right now.
13. Yes, I’m working towards the honest world order.
14. See #15
15. Sacrificing half the population so the rest can continue on is OK within the Buddhist religion. I’d say you don’t truly understand the notion of Buddhist sacrifice. But I have not said it is necessary to cull billions. I’ve said, if it is necessary to prevent doomsday, then of course it should happen. But it must be very, very clear WHY it is necessary. It can’t be ,”Well, it might be necessary so let’s just do it to make sure.” |
| OP User ID: 540970 11/2/2008 3:01 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
I believe the New World Order will be finally be implement it, right after WWIII just like the EU came right after WWII. There has to be chaos in order to implement a solution, an economic crisis by itself will not do, we might see it before 2009 ends. Quoting: True Believer
Unfortunately...this is a possible path.
Let's just strive to do the right thing with each person that we interact with each day.
If WWIII is going to be avoided, it will require that in a massive, massive way. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 541016 11/2/2008 4:04 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
So you claim that you were not being dishonest when ignoring my question, even without providing any reason.
But which post of yours were you dishonest?
The one on the 14th or the 20th?
It's one or the other.
Please come back and clarify this.
With only "honesty" of course.
It happened. You said it. And you ignored it.
The Pollyannas did not bother to ask you. And my internet connection was CRIMINALLY fucked up with, so my IP address changed. Not that I am afraid to keep it, as you stated it, as soon as I had mine changed, by "FORCE".
So much for this "honest" "new" world order.
You have a psychological issue going on. You are highly brainwashed. Try to get that under control. I've told you I can't tell you the things you are asking - get over yourself. Quoting: OP 534467
Very, very, VERY: poor form.
First: what kind of psychological issues do I have "going on"?
Second: you already stated that someone was "brainwashed". Then when people called you on your bullshit, as in: you have no AUTHORITY to say that to someone, you PHONILY "apologized" and said that this thread should have finished back then because of your stupid behavior. Only to call me brainwashed right now.
So YOU get over yourself.
You sound just like the "elite". Sooooo full of themselves for being oh so "superior", while they KILL, MAIM and STEAL while they drink shit from a straw with their pinky so affectedly lifted.
Soooo "civilized".
Poor "little" us stupid "brainwashed" ones.
I'm reeeeeally envious. Bow to the "enlighted" ones.
If I was "brainwashed", why would I have stated to my best friend as a first reaction on 911 that "'they' did it"? Only to be lectured about who Osama Bin Laden was and his links to the CIA, and how "stupid" "they" were to have done all of that?
Of course I was "brainwashed". I did not trust myself.
But that was looooooooong ago, when I really did not know much about anything, yet, more than YOU could ever hope to know.
And that's why "they" contacted you (if we take what you have said in here at face value, that I don't just so you KNOW). And have persecuted me.
My "know it all" dear.
Anyhow, here is the post that you claimed on October 14th in another thread:
I get the impression you are just ancient ethnocentric individuals trying to profit as much as you can off the brainwashed human raw material.
This is not in line with the technology paradigm and will lead to a technological doomsday eventually.
If, on the other hand, all this financial nonsense is all part of the plan to ensure the technology paradigm is fully heeded, then great...for a while. But it certainly seems to be ancient ethnocentric greed that is going on.
If you are, somehow, properly heeding the technology paradigm, I wish you would include me. But because you won't, I am left to think you are primitive ethnocentrics...and I am thus left to implement proper plans for the technology paradigm myself.
I accomplish this by illuminating people in exactly the right way as I proceed along with my life. I explain to them directly what the technology paradigm is using just the right words, and you can be sure that meme properly develops within their minds.
It could be a taxi driver, or any random person if we are in the right situation to exchange some words about the world in which we live.
I sometimes think that you may still experiment with electromagnetically influencing my mind...the way I confront that is to remember nature. I Remember that in nature there are no thoughts, there is just the fundamental truth of atoms, molecules, and DNA - thus any other random thoughts or feelings that come up within my mind are discarded and replaced with nature if they don't jive with nature.
The ultimate proof of your primitive ethnocentrism will be when you decide to kill that which you cannot control; me. Too bad I won't be around to see that proof, but others will, and we all know that most strategic killings today look like either natural deaths or accidents.
The technology paradigm is, simply, the fundamental truth that the secret technology of the world is so damn dangerous, that there are many creative and no so difficult ways to kill all people on the planet. That has to be managed either by brainwashing everyone into a "matrix" or by implementing another system; a system of honesty where everyone is told what the technology paradigm is, coupled with SEVERE controls over who is allowed to develop certain technologies. You either heed the laws...or...indeed.
It appears that the matrix idea is being managed by an ethnocentric elite today; that is dangerous. Ancient ethnocentism does not mix well with doomsday technology, and it is every person's responsibility who is reading this to spread these words. The ethnocentrism at the top must be ended by direct confrontation and implementation of the other system. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 507772
To those who have not followed this thread here is the original:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
You DO NOT sound honest.
You have said that they DID NOT INCLUDE YOU, on October 14th. Yet, a few days later, not only were you claiming that they DID include you(only FOUR days later):
I am a contributor to the new global order that is going to be implemented shortly. Quoting: Agent 507772
First page of THIS VERY THREAD:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
But that you had "their ears".
So I asked YOU when were you lying? On the other thread, or this one?
To which you ignored. Until I brought it up. To have you call me "highly brainwashed" and "psychologically problematic".
I don't know HOW you can claim that "you wish that they would include you" four days before you came here telling us that we could make "requests" to "them" that they would be heard.
Perhaps it's all one big fucking pathetic utterly MEANINGLESS theater by the countless "think" (hahahahahaha) -tanks "instittutions", that these "elite" who drink shit from a straw (when not GORGING ON IT during their sorry "sexual" sessions) with their ohhhh-so-"civilized" little pinkies lifted, pay for with the money that they make after stealing everybody' natural resources.
Tell me MORE! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 541016 11/2/2008 4:15 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
You haven't answered why you STATED that they did not contact you in another thread in here, but then said that they contacted you a while ago in this thread.
You do not sound honest.
Guess what, now I understand what you are asking. Stop splitting hairs.
You actually are not understanding what I wrote on October 14. I never said that I had never met a lower level agent on that particular thread. The words I wrote on that thread were a result of them not coming to talk with me directly after everything else that had happened.
Relax already. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 534467
So now are you acknowledging of not only being ARROGANT, but SLOW?
I thought you were superior than me... I might be arrogant, but I ain't that slow.
Just so you know.
And I don't care how you frame this, if it is "splitting hairs", "nagging", or like they so love to put it: "negative thinking".
ALL THAT I CARE IS THAT YOU CLAIMED THAT YOU WISHED THAT THEY WOULD INCLUDE YOU, in a few days before you came in here asking us to make "whatever we wished" so that you could prove to us that THEY DID INCLUDE YOU.
After all you are, JUST A FEW DAYS LATER:
"...a contributor to the new global order that is going to be implemented shortly."
Anyhow, letting all this "pettiness" aside, what do you want from us?
Don't you people get PAID with fake money to think these things up yourselves?
Why do you want FREE input, while WE have to PAY for everything?
Even the bombs (or "doom technology") that you use against us...
Answer that AFTER you answer your OBVIOUS CONTRADICTION, no matter how many PAID (or unpaid) "casual observers" have posted in here to your DEFENSE.
Defending the indefensible. |
| Me114  aka ladynada User ID: 323570 11/2/2008 4:55 PM
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Well I don't really believe in all this Jesus stuff anyway. I'm more fascinated with The Law of One and how it pertains to the global elite's beliefs. Seems alot cooler than christianity/judaism/islam and that Quoting: Anonymous Coward 539070
i learned alot from readin the RA books =+=+=+=
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| Me114  aka ladynada User ID: 323570 11/2/2008 4:58 PM
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Anyone who Thinks they have a device of any kind that the One True God Can't Stop has a Real Problem on their Hands.
The Ultamate POWER Resides in GOD's Hands and NOT Some dark lord of deception.
TPTB Are not going to be Happy if they Push God's Hand.
Can you say It's off to The Abys for YOU.
Some will UNDERSTAND.
GOD Always WINS in the END Game. Are You All (TPTB) SHURE You wana Go Down That ROAD Belive ME It Will NOT Be A Fun Ride...
We ALL Shall C Wont we.
U All Have a Good One.
Just ME.

James, On Assignment, Soul Contract with The Throne Of GOD, Licensed, Bonded and Insured By The Throne of GOD.
I Chose to Live in Peace and May I ask What is Your Choice. Quoting: Just a Note. 540602
what he said!
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| Me114  aka ladynada User ID: 323570 11/2/2008 5:02 PM
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I believe the New World Order will be finally be implement it, right after WWIII just like the EU came right after WWII. There has to be chaos in order to implement a solution, an economic crisis by itself will not do, we might see it before 2009 ends. Quoting: True Believer
they do not have enough deception and brainwashing left to pull it off anymore
they really dont
u gotta see that, thats why theyve been running for the money, they want to slink away into the night and never be seen or heard from again
think about it
there are defections everywhere.. and that includes the spy agencies.. they getting away...
they will leave whats left for us to clean up... we just wont do WWIII for them this time, there is no WILL in the people to make war on that scale anymore, they cant force themselves to stay in denial deep enough to COMPLY with that insanity any more
see?
the outcome is subject to change now, and thats what this thread and others, are all about
what we gonna do?
what we gonna do now?
focus on getting the food shipments to all the countries, finance it if need be for the shippers etc.. let the food FLOW
right? =+=+=+=
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| reedbecker User ID: 533516 11/2/2008 5:07 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
No more suggestions. This is the list. They can do one, some or none. It's up to them.
1. Houston/Spring Texas near the woodlands Earthquake, like 3-4 magnitude, or a UFO that makes the news.
2. Power outage in a major city that makes the news. (I think this one is too much to ask for guys...it effects too many people).
3. I'll suggest one more: Hello elite, this is me. I either want to talk with you know who, or I want you to put a hurricane through the location; it's time. I won't reveal the location here. Obviously, it's easier to let me talk with you know who, so please do that (doesn't help people here, but it helps me).
Wow... now I'm really starting to get impressed.
[ link to news.yahoo.com]
They did the quake. It was near Irving. 3.0 mag at 12:01 AM, October 31.
A 2.5-magnitude quake at 11:25 p.m. Thursday near Grand Prairie was followed by a series of other small earthquakes in the Dallas suburb, then a 3.0-magnitude quake at 12:01 a.m. Friday in nearby Irving, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. Quoting: OP 534467
I saw that 2.
If they can do all of this, why have they made the world the way it is, then blame the people for their actions?
It's nonsense, wildly inefficient, and evil. David Wilcock must be right, some people absorb the fear and hatred that others give off.
Regardless, I know many of their secrets already, and none of it impresses me. Anyone with a half a rational mind and a dash of curiosity can figure it out. However, they won't be getting my fear anymore. They should sit down like rational people and deal with reality. Deception and force is not intellect, no matter how it is spun. |
| Me114  aka ladynada User ID: 323570 11/2/2008 5:17 PM
 | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote | Your numbered responses tell plenty without referring to what you replied to by number, agent.
i agree with you, there will be an order, and ones with responsibility to ensure the 'kids' dont blow us and themselves up.
this is totally workable in the honest world order and the kingdom of God
i wish i could find a paintbrush that would wipe all the lies off of what the kingdom of god really is, for all the fallacies that come to people's minds when they read those words
until that is cleared up in many more minds, suffice to say that the elders of humanity who have free will access to and back from the second heaven down, will be in charge
but you must understand that people who are candidates for these positions of leadership come from those who are elder in soul age, AND those who are elder in MATURITY of soul regardless of age...
so therefore, these people are from ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND FAITHS - yet they all are leaders in the kingdom of god (the real one) or this honest world order you speak of
the major point im bringing to bear is that there are positions of authority in reality that BELONG to specific PEOPLE, they are to be in their RIGHT PLACE.
even some of the elite now which we love to hate, but must stop hating, some of them are supposed to be in elite or leadership positions but their minds are whacked out by all the lies right now.. once theyre rehabilitated by the CHANGES, and are back in their right mind, they will be happily welcomed to their right place, it is THEIRS, in society
so we have a lot of loving to do, a lot of forgiving, alot of listening to the inner voice of truth... and alot of sacrificing.. there are some people on earth who would do better to go to their ROOM in heaven so to speak ( in the second heaven, we each have our own personal room forever) for rehab, than to stay here on earth and make themselves WORSE because they are so deceived that they ARE likely to press a button and blow us up... if that kinda person dies in a car wreck because the universe needs to send them to their ROOM for their own good, so be it
why cant we admit that going into the afterlife was a threat all this time? hadnt we heard of the mess in the astral realm? and so, why havent we heard that it has all been cleaned up by God, this year, this year, april to august 2008, that all this is coordinated by truth
and its not gonna FORCE any particular RELIGION on any one
be your self
< snip wlp's remarks>
You sure do talk a lot.
1. The reality is that Pandora's box of doomsday technology is open. With this technology comes the means for we the people to protect ourselves from natural doomsday events (asteroids etc...), but also the means to destroy ourselves. We can't close Pandora's box, because then we could not protect ourselves from nature.
2. This is funny…you say it is all to change and all to be new, yet you say it will not be a “new world order.” Semantics. You can believe in a Divine plan. We the people decide the course of that plan.
3. There will always be an elite of sorts. You could call them the wise sages or whatever. Kids are the most dangerous thing on planet Earth. Kids, knowing nothing, and doomsday technology do not mix. There must be absolute control over the development of dangerous technology. Those who are the leaders of this control could be called “the elite” but the fundamental difference in an honest world order is that you know exactly who they are and what their role in society is. You can rise into the ranks of “the elite” if you are wise and able enough.
4. So you are aware…yet you are not really aware. Release of free energy would have caused the death of all people already. It must be done carefully.
5. Same as #4
6. No, I’m not an expert on the technology details…yet I’m far more aware than you regarding the full ramifications of it.
7. This is the honest world order – that’s the side you apparently are on. It really is whether you know it or not.
8. That is the old world order based on deception. I’m not for that…that’s why I’m here. Did you miss that?
9. All true. Tricks, deception, brainwashing.
10. The culling is primarily to maintain the ancient ethnocentric order. That is where the elite and I have a fundamental difference. If culling is necessary for the technology paradigm ALONE, this it must be…but I’ve never once said that it is necessary for that reason alone. I have discussed this in the OP and else ware on this thread.
11. Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
12. I know what you are saying, but don’t underestimate the technology they do have right now.
13. Yes, I’m working towards the honest world order.
14. See #15
15. Sacrificing half the population so the rest can continue on is OK within the Buddhist religion. I’d say you don’t truly understand the notion of Buddhist sacrifice. But I have not said it is necessary to cull billions. I’ve said, if it is necessary to prevent doomsday, then of course it should happen. But it must be very, very clear WHY it is necessary. It can’t be ,”Well, it might be necessary so let’s just do it to make sure.” Quoting: OP 540970 =+=+=+=
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| WL1 User ID: 540432 11/2/2008 5:26 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
You sure do talk a lot.
1. The reality is that Pandora's box of doomsday technology is open. With this technology comes the means for we the people to protect ourselves from natural doomsday events (asteroids etc...), but also the means to destroy ourselves. We can't close Pandora's box, because then we could not protect ourselves from nature.
2. This is funny…you say it is all to change and all to be new, yet you say it will not be a “new world order.” Semantics. You can believe in a Divine plan. We the people decide the course of that plan.
3. There will always be an elite of sorts. You could call them the wise sages or whatever. Kids are the most dangerous thing on planet Earth. Kids, knowing nothing, and doomsday technology do not mix. There must be absolute control over the development of dangerous technology. Those who are the leaders of this control could be called “the elite” but the fundamental difference in an honest world order is that you know exactly who they are and what their role in society is. You can rise into the ranks of “the elite” if you are wise and able enough.
4. So you are aware…yet you are not really aware. Release of free energy would have caused the death of all people already. It must be done carefully.
5. Same as #4
6. No, I’m not an expert on the technology details…yet I’m far more aware than you regarding the full ramifications of it.
7. This is the honest world order – that’s the side you apparently are on. It really is whether you know it or not.
8. That is the old world order based on deception. I’m not for that…that’s why I’m here. Did you miss that?
9. All true. Tricks, deception, brainwashing.
10. The culling is primarily to maintain the ancient ethnocentric order. That is where the elite and I have a fundamental difference. If culling is necessary for the technology paradigm ALONE, this it must be…but I’ve never once said that it is necessary for that reason alone. I have discussed this in the OP and else ware on this thread.
11. Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
12. I know what you are saying, but don’t underestimate the technology they do have right now.
13. Yes, I’m working towards the honest world order.
14. See #15
15. Sacrificing half the population so the rest can continue on is OK within the Buddhist religion. I’d say you don’t truly understand the notion of Buddhist sacrifice. But I have not said it is necessary to cull billions. I’ve said, if it is necessary to prevent doomsday, then of course it should happen. But it must be very, very clear WHY it is necessary. It can’t be ,”Well, it might be necessary so let’s just do it to make sure.” Quoting: OP 540970
Thank you for your response.
Yes I do type a lot but that is the only way to gain more understanding of what's behind the usual short, cryptic messages that people like yourself post. You have revealed a bit more.
The technology weapons that I mentioned are not a list of everything that I know that they are working on, just a quick summary of some of the publicly talked about stuff, accurate as per my typing or not. I would not speak more directly about these type of things on this site for all manner of reasons and I see neither do you. It just figures that someone that is easily impressed by a steered hurricane doesn't have much real knowledge, yet you say you do...anyway I'll assume you do.
I'm pretty sure that the most basic principles behind these doomsday weapons are to be found within Tesla’s work - the power to run a house or demolish a skyscraper or even cause pole-shifts, orbital problems and mass destruction. With Scalar technology I think anyone that knows anything about it realizes 'the full ramifications of it' as you say.
Scalar technology is a very dangerous thing in the hands of anyone, let alone children. Most leaders are children anyway but does that mean we all need a big brother controlling the keys. Anything that is more powerful than that is pretty much irrelevant.
I still have a problem with your no.15 –
'if it is necessary to prevent doomsday, then of course it should happen. But it must be very, very clear WHY it is necessary.'-------------
That is too open to manipulation and cover-up as we are experiencing right now. Like the worldwide chemtrail op. They could tell every single person that it is being done to prevent doomsday and is being done for their own protection. Doesn't mean it is true does it. Once the billions are wiped out and you then discover that it was a lie..........oops!!! You are putting your trust and faith in other beings that have no provable superiority or knowledge compared to any other souled beings other than the possession of dangerous technology which gives ‘them’ the right to dictate.
You said -
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'There must be absolute control over the development of dangerous technology. Those who are the leaders of this control could be called “the elite”
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What more can I say if you can't see that is exactly the problem we have today except it is centralizing the power control as opposed to many different countries that are not sync'd up and all have a red button.
Don't you see that you are promoting (even though you make it sound slightly better) the new world order as it was always planned. Who in their right mind could see the ones in charge of this technology (right now) allowing other races and bloodlines into their camp? If they do take exclusive control then yes it does do away with this so-called ethnocentrism problem. The control will be by a small interrelated group of beings doing things that they say is good for humanity.
Guess what that is-----Playing God.
This is all hypothetical anyway. It’s doubtful those that are behind you OP will ever be getting the opportunity to try out their theories with what is really coming Our way. |
| reedbecker User ID: 533516 11/2/2008 5:35 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
I believe the New World Order will be finally be implement it, right after WWIII just like the EU came right after WWII. There has to be chaos in order to implement a solution, an economic crisis by itself will not do, we might see it before 2009 ends.
Unfortunately...this is a possible path.
Let's just strive to do the right thing with each person that we interact with each day.
If WWIII is going to be avoided, it will require that in a massive, massive way. Quoting: OP 540970
Well, if they do that, at least half (if not more) of them will go as well. ESPECIALLY their leadership. Nothing they do will protect them, as too many people know exactly who they are. Starting WW3 is essentially suicide. Following what Dr. Dan Burisch has said, the survivors will end up with a shallow gene pool that eventually causes catastrophic genetic FAIL, hence the human experiments/abductions this century.
One more thing:
Why are they fulfilling my requests? It's 2 for 2 now. IF they want to send a direct message, then have BP call me. That's a win-win situation right there. |
| OP User ID: 540970 11/2/2008 10:11 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
ALL THAT I CARE IS THAT YOU CLAIMED THAT YOU WISHED THAT THEY WOULD INCLUDE YOU, in a few days before you came in here asking us to make "whatever we wished" so that you could prove to us that THEY DID INCLUDE YOU.
After all you are, JUST A FEW DAYS LATER:
"...a contributor to the new global order that is going to be implemented shortly."
Anyhow, letting all this "pettiness" aside, what do you want from us?
Don't you people get PAID with fake money to think these things up yourselves?
Why do you want FREE input, while WE have to PAY for everything?
Even the bombs (or "doom technology") that you use against us...
Answer that AFTER you answer your OBVIOUS CONTRADICTION, no matter how many PAID (or unpaid) "casual observers" have posted in here to your DEFENSE.
Defending the indefensible. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 541016
You have a genuine problem comprehending complicated things. I still wish "they would include me" more directly, as I've stated throughout this thread.
The agent that came to see me many years ago didn't identify himself as such. I simply realized it both during and after the fact.
The agent that came to see me more recently had a more "local authority secret undercover police" type of status. He and a tough looking other guy had lunch with me. I can't talk about the details.
Those people talking with me is not "being included." They have done a variety of events, some of them are on this thread and you have been a witness.
The fact that they steer hurricanes is not so impressive. The fact that they steered one FOR ME is pretty damn impressive.
Why the hell are you so upset? You are, in fact, confused. Slow down. Quick thinking is often inaccurate thinking.
Get off the food-chemicals; they do the mind harm. |
| OP User ID: 540970 11/2/2008 10:33 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
1. It just figures that someone that is easily impressed by a steered hurricane doesn't have much real knowledge, yet you say you do...anyway I'll assume you do.
2. With Scalar technology I think anyone that knows anything about it realizes 'the full ramifications of it' as you say. Scalar technology is a very dangerous thing in the hands of anyone, let alone children. Most leaders are children anyway but does that mean we all need a big brother controlling the keys. Anything that is more powerful than that is pretty much irrelevant.
3. I still have a problem with your no.15 –
'if it is necessary to prevent doomsday, then of course it should happen. But it must be very, very clear WHY it is necessary.'-------------
That is too open to manipulation and cover-up as we are experiencing right now. Like the worldwide chemtrail op. They could tell every single person that it is being done to prevent doomsday and is being done for their own protection. Doesn't mean it is true does it. Once the billions are wiped out and you then discover that it was a lie..........oops!!!
4. You are putting your trust and faith in other beings that have no provable superiority or knowledge compared to any other souled beings other than the possession of dangerous technology which gives ‘them’ the right to dictate.
5. You said -
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'There must be absolute control over the development of dangerous technology. Those who are the leaders of this control could be called “the elite”
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What more can I say if you can't see that is exactly the problem we have today except it is centralizing the power control as opposed to many different countries that are not sync'd up and all have a red button.
Don't you see that you are promoting (even though you make it sound slightly better) the new world order as it was always planned. Who in their right mind could see the ones in charge of this technology (right now) allowing other races and bloodlines into their camp? If they do take exclusive control then yes it does do away with this so-called ethnocentrism problem. The control will be by a small interrelated group of beings doing things that they say is good for humanity.
6. Guess what that is-----Playing God.
7. This is all hypothetical anyway. It’s doubtful those that are behind you OP will ever be getting the opportunity to try out their theories with what is really coming Our way. Quoting: WL1 540432
1. As I've stated. They steered it for me. The fact that they can steer the hurricanes is not so impressive. Doing it for me has a different effect.
2. Good. You understand the ramifications. Doomsday.
3. Exactly. So it is important that we discuss this rationally as quickly as possible and get over the emotions. The elite could think it is necessary, but it really isn't. Unless they have a well conceived plan that shows it is not necessary...they will do what they think they must. This thread is about developing another path, and they have done several events to show everyone that they are listening.
4. I’m not putting my trust in anyone. I’ve taken pro-active actions myself. I’ve taken careful, well conceived actions over a period of 7 years since 911. If people have their hands on doomsday technology, yes, it gives them the right to dictate... that’s the whole of human history. We have an opportunity to change from deception to honesty. People on top will always dictate, but that dictating can be based on honesty, or deception. It can be based on a person’s merits, or on a birthright. Which do you prefer?
5. This is a difficult matter. As Putin says, he wants the multi-polar world. With regard to doomsday technology development, their cannot be multi-polar. There can be only one global order for that one issue. With regard to different cultures, countries, and everything else, there can be a multi-polar world. Both conditions can exist simultaneously. That’s why I’m here. This is way, way different than the “new world order” that was planned for. This is a very open and honest world.
6. We must “play god” in the form of people. We have knowledge, and we do things. We must make responsible, god playing, decisions regarding the one very important issue; doomsday technology.
7. What happens depends on what happens here, on this thread. Believe it. |
| OP User ID: 540970 11/2/2008 10:42 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Well, if they do that, at least half (if not more) of them will go as well. ESPECIALLY their leadership. Nothing they do will protect them, as too many people know exactly who they are. Starting WW3 is essentially suicide. Following what Dr. Dan Burisch has said, the survivors will end up with a shallow gene pool that eventually causes catastrophic genetic FAIL, hence the human experiments/abductions this century.
One more thing:
Why are they fulfilling my requests? It's 2 for 2 now. IF they want to send a direct message, then have BP call me. That's a win-win situation right there. Quoting: reedbecker
The "genetic fail" thing is not true. It is disinformation. You can have two siblings, man and woman, and repopulate the earth as long as you pay attention to the breeding partners through time to eradicate bad genes.
Your requests were good ones that they could easily do. I stated that before. They likely will not have a face to face or telephone conversation with you. They don’t provide me that luxury either.
Aren’t you as impressed as I am regarding the timing, 12:01 AM, October 31 of that quake? It really was to maintain the credibility of this thread since I was wrong about that October 30 event that did not happen. On the first minute after October 30 they provided something to keep this thread healthy.
I’m just so damn impressed with that. It’s making me smile right now. |
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