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The actual New World Order that is here

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Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/4/2008 8:49 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

YW! 320717

What ever you can do is "Good"! hf

Caregiving is hard work; you give so much of yourself. angel3

Give back to yourself too!
You are correct to a point.
User ID: 542515
11/4/2008 12:14 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

This has nothing to do with forming the HWO.
It is too convoluted to see who is playing whom here for us on the outside.

So I am going to keep concentrating on putting forth to the elites that the time has come to end the games and open the doors to our freedom.

TURN THE SWITCH OFF!

What you said is correct to a point however It is About What God will or wont do.

If the people Vote for Mr. Obama and he wins then the people have Chosen to Negate GOD. Lets face He is a Muslam and DOES Not Honer the One TRUE GOD.

Voting for 3rd partie will NOT Accomplish AhyThing.

God HAS A PLAN, Will it work Only if the People do the Wright Thing.

This Election is About Ghange and God can Bring forth THAT CHANGE Meaning ONLY God can Bring DOWN The House of Cards the NWO Is trying to Implement

And I Am NOT Talking about the Religous Right Here Either.

Mr. McCain is NOT Mr. Bush and He can BE Corrected one way or THE OTHER.

BushCO was Allowed to do what they did, Doesn't make it Wright but it Was Allowed and They ALL Will have a VERRY VERRY Long time to Think about their Actions(Eternity in the FIRE).

Why does it seem that People don't want is GOD's Way.

Whom do you Trust Annie.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/4/2008 1:09 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

What you said is correct to a point however It is About What God will or wont do.

If the people Vote for Mr. Obama and he wins then the people have Chosen to Negate GOD. Lets face He is a Muslam and DOES Not Honer the One TRUE GOD.

Voting for 3rd partie will NOT Accomplish AhyThing.

God HAS A PLAN, Will it work Only if the People do the Wright Thing.

This Election is About Ghange and God can Bring forth THAT CHANGE Meaning ONLY God can Bring DOWN The House of Cards the NWO Is trying to Implement

And I Am NOT Talking about the Religous Right Here Either.

Mr. McCain is NOT Mr. Bush and He can BE Corrected one way or THE OTHER.

BushCO was Allowed to do what they did, Doesn't make it Wright but it Was Allowed and They ALL Will have a VERRY VERRY Long time to Think about their Actions(Eternity in the FIRE).

Why does it seem that People don't want is GOD's Way.

Whom do you Trust Annie.
 Quoting: You are correct to a point. 542515


I am having touble to even begin to find the words to describe all that is wrong with your thinking...
Your argument is based on religion and that is very sad.
That you have divided people based on religion is sad.

Well I can tell you I do not trust what you are saying!

The Plan is for us to be FREE! And to fulfill our true hearts mission.

This idea of One True God that does not include Muslims is absurd to me, because I have found thru my experiences that ALL religions are a cover for fear and control.

The One True God couldn't give a rats ass about religion.
Religion is the sand in the eye, the veil, the wool pulled over the eyes to hide the real face of who controls us.

You have misunderstood anything that is Holy about God.

I vote third party because it is all a game and I like my own rules better.
Whoever is chosen as President was decide long ago behind closed doors. That is why the votes have to be manipulated and faked.

Please do not bother me with your hate talk. I can't be bothered.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/4/2008 1:48 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

This is where we stand. This is where the reality is now.
But I am hoping that the elite will see that there is more to be gained in a transparent society for all of us together. These are not my words.
*******

Today dawns upon our World as it faces its most serious challenges since the early days of the 20th Century, which began what historians of the future will call the 100-Years-War, and which since it began has seen the destruction of the Austria-Hungarian and Turkish Empires in World War I, the destruction of the German, Japanese and British Empires in World War II, the ascendancy of the Soviet and American Empires through the later part of the century, the destruction of the Soviet Empire in the 1990’s, and all leading to the victor of this conflict being the United States, and which currently stands as an Empire that spans the entire Globe unmatched in power and influence than any other Empire in our Earth’s entire recorded history.

So powerful has the Empire of the United States become that it has among its many attributes the largest and most technologically powerful economy in the World, with a per capita GDP of $46,000, a military budget of over $700 billion that is more than that of all of the other World’s Nations combined, has less than 5 percent of the World's population but has almost a quarter of the World's prisoners, has a combined private and government debt of over $53 Trillion leading to each of their citizens owing over $175,000 yet whose Federal Reserve Bank is fast becoming the Central Bank of the World, and consumes more oil than nearly every other Nation in the World combined.

By these stated, and undisputed, facts alone there is no argument, in any corner of any Nation, that as the United States goes so goes our entire World, and today they are choosing a new leader that when the history of these times are written will be known as one of the most important human beings in all of our recorded history.

No other single person, in all of recorded human history, will possess more financial and war bearing powers over the entire Earth than the next United States President who by his actions alone, over these coming years, will affect the life and death of billions of human beings the World over.

No other single person, and again, in all of our recorded human history, will have the ability to unleash, mitigate or prevent, the total annihilation of our entire Earth and the ending of our species forever through nuclear war, climate change collapse or the rise of a catastrophic, and unseen at this time, diseases like the Black Plaque or Spanish Flu able to kill us by the billions.

It could be argued, and most certainly will be in the future, that one single human being having such power over our entire World, and its peoples, should, also, be chosen by the entire World. But, and like in the days of ancient Roman Empire, of which the United States has been modeled over these past 200 years, this most critical choice for leadership of our Earth is left to the American people alone.

And as their choice for the leadership of not just their Nation, but the entire World, they have chosen two men to decide upon, Barack Obama and John McCain.

Barack Obama, at his best, is described as a ‘once in a generation’ political figure whose calm sense of bearing and gift of oratory transcends traditional labels and party lines and whose candidacy speaks to the maturity of the American people who for the first time since their founding as a Nation, and their brutal Civil War, will lay to rest their much troubled history of subjugating minority populations. At his worst, Barack Obama is described as an enigmatic figure whose origins of birth are clouded in mystery, whose upbringing in foreign countries brings to question his loyalty to America, and whose associations with too many controversial people to mention has instilled a fear among many Americans that should he become their President their Nation will become a socialist state where they will lose all of their rights and their money.

John McCain, at his best, is described as a genuine war hero who since being a young man has given his entire life, and physical well being, to a Nation he loves and has vowed to serve with all he has to give. His record of accomplishments in the service to his Nation remain unparalleled in modern American history and has seen him do battle with too many entrenched forces to mention, including his own political party and President, and all done in service to the American people and not to the powerful elite who rule over them. At his worst, John McCain is described as a ‘loose cannon’ with an unmatched temper that has seen his refusal to comply with authority, or rules, and which led to his being shot down over Vietnam when he abandoned his assigned flight path, being embroiled in a financial crises which caused the collapse of the US savings and loan industry in the 1980’s, his abandonment of his first wife due to her disfigurement from an automobile accident after his return to America after being released by the Vietnamese after the ending of that war, and his quick ascension to the power corridors of America via the connections made for him by his present wife’s mob connected father.

Though it should only be in books of fiction that two such human beings could possibly be invested with so much power, and authority, that they will control the lives of billions of people on an entire Planet, that is, and as amazing at it may seem, the fact that World faces today as the American people begin to vote.

Or is it?

The mission (...snip...) has been to expose, and reveal, to all of our World’s peoples, the actual personages, and powers, that lie behind the figurehead individuals that throughout our history have called themselves Kings, Queens, Presidents, Prime Ministers, Potentates, Supreme Leaders and Dictators, and which have been doing for over 700 years.

These powers that lie behind the ‘names of men’ are not unknown to them either, and as the American President Woodrow Wilson spoke about after having had to force his Nation into World War I that he had promised his Nation he would keep them out of:

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had mens' views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”

The last American President to believe he was more powerful than these ‘subtle, watchful, and interlocked’ forces was John F. Kennedy, and whose words against these ‘secret societies’ have been preserved and can be listened to here(note~his secret society speech), and which after his speaking them was assassinated by those he dared to oppose. (...snip...)

To what these American people are facing with the actual election itself, and its consequences, we can further read:

As reported by Britain’s Mail News Service: “The American presidential election could descend into electoral chaos on Tuesday as unprecedented numbers of voters turn out to cast their ballot in a system that is largely untested. The U.S. has an electoral system that is not organised, designed or funded to cope with 'anywhere near a 100 per cent turnout', a director of a leading independent electoral reform group has said. As an estimated 130million Americans head to the polls, Doug Chapin, director of The Pew Charitable Trust's Electionline.org, said voter turnout will 'dwarf' all other problems in this year's presidential election.”

From American author Erica Jong: “Obama supporters are warning of “blood in the streets” and a new “civil war” should Obama lose on Tuesday.”

From the United States Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell: “The world faces a growing risk of conflict over the next 20 to 30 years amid an unprecedented transfer of wealth and power from West to East.”

To the true ‘Hollywood Ending’ of this election, and directed to those American people still remaining undecided on whom to vote for are, and being given to them ‘right on cue’ just hours before the polls open, the ‘news’ that the grandmother of Barack Obama has just passed away after her long battle with cancer, and that the charismatic Sarah Palin has just been cleared of ethics violations levied against her in her home State of Alaska, completes this chapter of this US election drama.

If we had written this script for the American election, instead of those powers that have actually done so, it would not, could not, be believed as true by anyone of common sense. But, to the overwhelming majority of the American people, it is our true words which are scorned as not even being possible to be believed, and which is a testament to how far these peoples have fallen in both their common sense and worth as intelligent human beings.

To their not even realizing, however, that they have, as an entire Nation, been placed upon the cutters table like a fine jewel ready to be cleaved in half, they still haven’t the slightest clue of their planned cruel fate even though the evidence for this being true surrounds them should they only care to look.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/5/2008 8:51 AM
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So Obama won.

That is pretty amazing.

Yet not so as he is the won that they wanted.

Let's see whose side he is working on.
If there is a family dispute (which I think there is...IMHO), then let us see who came out on top.

Hopefully, there is the move to free all the people.
We will have to watch and keep pushing for HWO...
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/5/2008 9:18 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

So Obama won.

That is pretty amazing.

Yet not so as he is the won that they wanted.

Let's see whose side he is working on.
If there is a family dispute (which I think there is...IMHO), then let us see who came out on top.

Hopefully, there is the move to free all the people.
We will have to watch and keep pushing for HWO...
 Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783


Correction:
Yet not so as he is the one that they wanted.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/5/2008 10:28 AM
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Thinking about it...too much no doubt...
I read that Obama was a Rothschod choice.

Fulford has talked about the Rothschilds as being more amenable to the New World Order, so perhaps this is good indication.








Am, I talking to myself?
Has everyone abandoned this thread including OP?
Should I let it go into archives and that is that?
Until the next Fulford interview?
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/5/2008 11:30 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

bump
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/5/2008 11:35 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

I would also add that while there were attempts at fraud, it was impossible to complete, and there were no riots and all the other doom that was put out there.

Even Karl Rove knew that Obama would be the choice.

Whatwill this mean?
Let us hope for the world that it means freedom.


Ben Fulford! What do you have to say?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 544097
11/5/2008 6:06 PM
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ALL THAT I CARE IS THAT YOU CLAIMED THAT YOU WISHED THAT THEY WOULD INCLUDE YOU, in a few days before you came in here asking us to make "whatever we wished" so that you could prove to us that THEY DID INCLUDE YOU.

After all you are, JUST A FEW DAYS LATER:

"...a contributor to the new global order that is going to be implemented shortly."

Anyhow, letting all this "pettiness" aside, what do you want from us?

Don't you people get PAID with fake money to think these things up yourselves?

Why do you want FREE input, while WE have to PAY for everything?

Even the bombs (or "doom technology") that you use against us...

Answer that AFTER you answer your OBVIOUS CONTRADICTION, no matter how many PAID (or unpaid) "casual observers" have posted in here to your DEFENSE.

Defending the indefensible.


You have a genuine problem comprehending complicated things. I still wish "they would include me" more directly, as I've stated throughout this thread.

The agent that came to see me many years ago didn't identify himself as such. I simply realized it both during and after the fact.

The agent that came to see me more recently had a more "local authority secret undercover police" type of status. He and a tough looking other guy had lunch with me. I can't talk about the details.

Those people talking with me is not "being included." They have done a variety of events, some of them are on this thread and you have been a witness.

The fact that they steer hurricanes is not so impressive. The fact that they steered one FOR ME is pretty damn impressive.

Why the hell are you so upset? You are, in fact, confused. Slow down. Quick thinking is often inaccurate thinking.


Get off the food-chemicals; they do the mind harm.
 Quoting: OP 540970




What "complicated things" are you talking about that I do have problem "comprehending"?

The story that you tell us here after being called on it, by someone before myself? Just because I don't buy your story does not mean, at all, that I do not understand it.

Or is it this "new" idea of a Honest World Order?

I stated myself that I have been living it for a long, long time. I have stated about "everyone having everything for free" in various locations, in the internet and life in general. This whole vision of Jacque Fresno ( [link to thezeitgeistmovement.com]

And it was never along the lines of the Communist System as it is replete of bloody history in the name of a "just system" where the bureaucrats are the "elite"?

Obviously what Jacque Fresno talks about is very logical. It is a fairer system. With more justice. More honesty.

It is more in tune with the "value fulfillment of the species" found in all of Nature. Things that I have been talking about, and being PERSECUTED for it, for long long years.

It's a "dream-come-true" for any "everything has room for improvement" brainy INTJ.

And there is very little "complicated things" that an INTJ does not get. Sorry to inform you.

Nothing "new" or "complicated" about it. To my beingness, at least.

Instead of apologizing, and not unhonestly like you did to another poster in here when you called her "brainwashed", you just keep distilling your venom.

I ain't confused at all. Nor actually "upset". I am just trying to find out, as the poster named March said on page 12 of this thread:

"Check OP's old posts. It seems to me that OP is not consistent with his claims."

Nothing that you have stated here make any kind of sense.

And this is not about being "upset" but, as stated by me in this thread after being called an "unbeliever", about finding out the real motivations of people, obviously to all who have spent a small little intelligent aware thought about this place, who claim to be "insiders".

In your specific case: two statements highly inconsistent.

But whatever, you are here and in this thread have claimed that "they will implement all of this very shortly".

What I want to know is: if they have decided to go ahead with all of this, why do they want our input?

Don't they pay people to "think" this shit?

As I said as well, it is highly unlikely that people who never gave a shit about "the ends not justifying the means", in other words: "brain and heart", will NOW give a flying fuck what we "think" about them WMD us to oblivion.

I actually don't understand what stop them from doing it, killing two birds with one stone so to speak, and then implementing this "benevolent" HWO for the remaining forever boot-lickers.

It does not make any sense.

And it has to do with your appereance in here.

(Read all of that very slowly, think it throughly, so that you do not come back with that very poor form of yours, as you think that those who are Mercurial in thought - as the inhouse Reptilian has alluded about "them" LOVING it - are somewhat lacking. Thank you.)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 544097
11/5/2008 6:17 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Or is it this "new" idea of a Honest World Order?
This whole vision of Jacque Fresno ( [link to thezeitgeistmovement.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 544097


cut off due to POORLY THOUGHT OUT-MANIFESTED "civilized" "technology":

while not being as throughly thought out by me, I had already thought about it in the lines of: "why should we work at meaningless jobs to make our bosses rich, while they take 'ownership' of something that was given TO ALL?"
WL1
User ID: 540432
11/5/2008 6:24 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Thinking about it...too much no doubt...
I read that Obama was a Rothschod choice.

Fulford has talked about the Rothschilds as being more amenable to the New World Order, so perhaps this is good indication.








Am, I talking to myself?
Has everyone abandoned this thread including OP?
Should I let it go into archives and that is that?
Until the next Fulford interview?
 Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783

Hi Annie
If Obama was a Rothschild choice then it doesn't make sense at all that Rothschild and Rockefeller are in opposing factions (as put forward by f'ford), as Obama was also a CFR member and their choice it seems (with Rockefeller being one of the big plastic cheese whizzes in CFR). The same smoke and mirrors that Brzezinski employed by backing and advising Obama directly while backing McCain indirectly.
Even the name Barak Hussein Obama is a set-up and is part of their inside joke. I wonder what his real name is. Probably Joe Smith or something really average.
This is just too coincidental and flashy (unsubtle trigger) to ever be a coincidence in a trillion years.

Let's hope that Obama is a double agent or a double, double agent (for who then I wonder) and is just waiting to get into position first.
In their constant war of deception they have created such a mess where black is white and white is black but really is white. Then there is red. But is it really red?

I will keep my real insights out of this forum though - as the ac said earlier - why should they (think-tanks) get this type of info for free and with such little effort on their part.

I think that has a lot to do with why really stimulating conversation on glp is so rare these days. Many have moved on once the internet police started their nazi patrols.
WL1
User ID: 540432
11/5/2008 6:40 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

3. Exactly. So it is important that we discuss this rationally as quickly as possible and get over the emotions. The elite could think it is necessary, but it really isn't. Unless they have a well conceived plan that shows it is not necessary...they will do what they think they must. This thread is about developing another path, and they have done several events to show everyone that they are listening.

7. What happens depends on what happens here, on this thread. Believe it.
 Quoting: OP 540970


I agree with ac 544097 - ‘why do they want our input?’
Does not compute at all. Since when do the kings and queens consult the serfs.

Ok, from your words above, the obvious question is how does this 'well conceived plan that shows it is not necessary' come about. It surely will not form out of random replies and questions from anonymous people so if there is an urgency about it, what are you hoping to achieve from this thread. It is not clear to me that beyond the discussion once stimulated, there lies a coherent conclusion (let alone a well conceived plan), other than a bunch of us saying yeah an honest world order would be nice, make mine a double with extra cheese and when can you deliver. That's just a poll of sorts.

Your thread has provided an interesting snapshot of the direction many diverse people think we are headed and their perception of the nwo plans as they stand now - the kind of survey that would be almost impossible to achieve through normal means - but how does order appear from this chaos? Is it meant to or is it just another day out on a fishing trip for the usual crew?

I have seen nothing yet to make me 'believe it'.
I'm talking about the direction of the thread or the lack of, not the events or magic tricks to lend you credibility. I mean beyond that. Say you were given this credibility right now, I wonder if the goal would have been achieved, your ego having been boosted and enough info already gleaned, or would you get down to more serious business and stop beating around the bush?

So what is the serious business and if it is serious and urgent then why are you the OP so reticent and slow in coming out with a coherent plan other than vague think-tank scenarios to ponder and debate without a conclusion?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 544097
11/5/2008 6:48 PM
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why should they (think-tanks) get this type of info for free and with such little effort on their part.
 Quoting: WL1 540432


They made an "effort".

They did some computer graphics in one video, moved some red lights in front of a cam and told CNN to air it, and then did the earthquake (the one that they did in China after Fulford "bad-asses ninjas" were after them - and that was that to the threat ;) ) on October 31th.

That you cannot say. They did make the "effort".

I'm still waiting for the world-wide honest press-conference to take place though. Little Ali on their side, obviously.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 544097
11/5/2008 6:58 PM
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I agree with ac 544097 - ‘why do they want our input?’
Does not compute at all. Since when do the kings and queens consult the serfs.
 Quoting: WL1 540432


Another LIE that these people try to push on us... That "our thoughts create our reality" and that they need our "acceptance" in order to not to infringe our "free-will".

As their occultism mantra supposedly states.

During this Iraq occupation tons of people, all over the world, said NO to the war, but they went ahead still, even with the NO clear and loud to the, not-known at the time, LIES of Blair and their student-paper ripped off "inteligence report".

THEY WENT AHEAD AND DID IT.

What is stopping them now?

Bloody "beauty" (as the OP has amazingly stated in this thread I believe page 6: "And the Elite likes beauty.") never stopped them.

They like "beauty" perhaps in their stiff boring "antique" living rooms.

But all over the fucking globe, and their dungeons, they like BLOOD.

LOTS OF BLOOD.

The lies that people tell is unbelievable.

And after all of this WE are the "commoners". The "profane".

Too "rich".
WL1
User ID: 540432
11/5/2008 7:09 PM
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why should they (think-tanks) get this type of info for free and with such little effort on their part.



They made an "effort".

They did some computer graphics in one video, moved some red lights in front of a cam and told CNN to air it, and then did the earthquake (the one that they did in China after Fulford "bad-asses ninjas" were after them - and that was that to the threat ;) ) on October 31th.

That you cannot say. They did make the "effort".

I'm still waiting for the world-wide honest press-conference to take place though. Little Ali on their side, obviously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 544097

Yeah I guess they are keeping the really impressive stuff (that would seem more like making a real effort), for later - for last desperate measures. Their last cards.
Is it a holographic Niburu/planet x or a large asteroid that they holographically shoot down, or is it......or is it.......

Problem is they still don't see that someone is standing over their shoulder that can see all of their cards and is about to end their card-trick game.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 544097
11/5/2008 7:37 PM
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Problem is they still don't see that someone is standing over their shoulder that can see all of their cards and is about to end their card-trick game.
 Quoting: WL1 540432


All I can say without being too obvious (to the benefit of the dirty shills reading this that do the dirty work FOR THEM) is... Today 11, 2009 also 11, until the 11th.

The "33" - 3x11 - (ONE of MANY) that they like so much.

If they think this is also a "coincidence" and that The One has not MANIFESTED it, and it is not a REPRESENTATION of his INTENT during these times, they are mistaken as ever.

Better knock it off, or you all are going DOWN.

Choose POSITIVITY.

Not DEATH and MISERY.

"Secret society" trash.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 544097
11/5/2008 7:39 PM
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Or as "Jesus, the 33", fond of saying: hypocrites.
WL1
User ID: 540432
11/5/2008 7:50 PM
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Anybody see this:
[link to elections.foxnews.com]
I see there is a thread about this -
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

'WASHINGTON -- President-elect Barack Obama chose Illinois lawmaker Rahm Emanual to be his White House chief of staff, his first selection for the new administration, Democratic officials said Wednesday.

If Emanuel accepts, the congressman would return to the White House where he served as a political and policy adviser to President Bill Clinton.'

Apparently...............

Emanuel was born in Chicago, Illinois in 1959. His father, the Jerusalem-born Benjamin M. Emanuel, is a pediatrician and was a member of the Irgun, a militant Zionist group active during the British Mandate of Palestine.

............................hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
agent 99
User ID: 544180
11/5/2008 8:11 PM
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nice to meet you...fancy meeting in a place like this!

>Let's hope that Obama is a double agent or a double, double agent (for who then I wonder) and is just waiting to get into position first.
In their constant war of deception they have created such a mess where black is white and white is black but really is white. Then there is red. But is it really red?

I will keep my real insights out of this forum though - as the ac said earlier - why should they (think-tanks) get this type of info for free and with such little effort on their part.

I think that has a lot to do with why really stimulating conversation on glp is so rare these days. Many have moved on once the internet police started their nazi patrols.


btw..double-agency is not at all difficult to pull off..

but you are so right, just as i was thinking today..'it's time to withhold.' we give so much of ourselves away. and you give, and you give, and you GIVE YOURSELF AWAY.

i suppose the psychology goes like this..claim to be from such and such agency..they will be "flattered" to think you might be interested in what you have to say! they will easily give it out...just like the spiritual/intellectual whores that they are...then they will use your ideas to their own benefit and credit..just as you've suspected.

it's intellectual property theft by flattery. there's another word for it..."gullible."

"oh, but i ain't playin' the game no more."
WL1
User ID: 540432
11/5/2008 9:09 PM
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nice to meet you...fancy meeting in a place like this!

>Let's hope that Obama is a double agent or a double, double agent (for who then I wonder) and is just waiting to get into position first.
In their constant war of deception they have created such a mess where black is white and white is black but really is white. Then there is red. But is it really red?

I will keep my real insights out of this forum though - as the ac said earlier - why should they (think-tanks) get this type of info for free and with such little effort on their part.

I think that has a lot to do with why really stimulating conversation on glp is so rare these days. Many have moved on once the internet police started their nazi patrols.


btw..double-agency is not at all difficult to pull off..

but you are so right, just as i was thinking today..'it's time to withhold.' we give so much of ourselves away. and you give, and you give, and you GIVE YOURSELF AWAY.

i suppose the psychology goes like this..claim to be from such and such agency..they will be "flattered" to think you might be interested in what you have to say! they will easily give it out...just like the spiritual/intellectual whores that they are...then they will use your ideas to their own benefit and credit..just as you've suspected.

it's intellectual property theft by flattery. there's another word for it..."gullible."

"oh, but i ain't playin' the game no more."
 Quoting: agent 99 544180

Hi agent 99

Good to meet another fellow free thinker. Yes exactly as you say and it is even beyond just gullible. People have been hammered for so long and from so many directions that they just want something to believe in, something to shut out that endless roar that exists outside of the box. I'm sure we have all done it at some time. It is so much easier (and seemingly better) to look for the good in all and just keep the lid on that nice and comfy box that surrounds us, but we will not progress unless we get a bit uncomfortable in the big bad world beyond the box and question absolutely everything and look under every rock in the quest for The Good(or whatever name you wish to hang on it).

I think a lot of people forget or don't wish to remember just how rotten to the core these controllers and abusers are and have been even though they are very well versed in their intellectual flattery games. You can't change rotten to the core by fluffing up the outside. You have to toss the rotten ones out completely. Anyway I will step off MY soapbox now, quit the rant and go back quietly and submissively into the little box provided to me so nicely by the elite insiders..........or will I.

Peace and more Power to not 'playin' the game no more.'
OP
User ID: 544393
11/6/2008 12:56 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Maybe we should start a political movement based on principals of an HWO and the technology paradigm.

Just do it.

All it takes is a website. I don't want to start it right now. I have my reasons.

Every word matters. Keep it simple and honest. Don't add any personal belief to it; keep it real and to the point of doomsday technology.

The ethnocentric elite are confused I think. They really don't know what to do with this advanced technology with regards to all the brainwashed people. The way they've been using it is to create strategic droughts, floods, etc. to further their position of control over all the brainwashed human cattle.

If we just start the political movement, we help them decide. We just do it. They either jump aboard, or drown.

Obama was elected to activate/fulfill the brainwashing on the Democratic side of the America Hegelian Dialectic system. Watching the fulfilled brainwashed faces in the crowd was disturbingly pathetic. It’s a Hollywood production. Just as you feel emotions during a movie, so do you feel them during this latest political production.

Obama isn’t even a descendant of a slave or a black American. In fact, when the slave traders went to Africa, it was the African elite that rounded up those that would be sent to America. Since Obama’s father is an upper class gentleman from Kenya, he probably has ancestors that acted in the role of rounding up those that would be shipped to America to become slaves. Truth is simple, but lost upon the faces of the brainwashed masses, whose twisted minds actually think that this election is some type of accomplishment.

Anyway, an honest world order wouldn’t have any brainwashed people. People would not become happy about such trivial things as these manufactured emotions; manufactured in Hollywood into your mind.

There are different kinds of people, and within those groups, there are the wisest of the elders that make the decisions. That’s an honest world. The historic problem has always been one group enslaving another, and that problem is/was caused by the one very small ethnocentric elite group atop all the others. They thrive off of brainwashing and causing other groups to have conflict with each other.

The Orientals, Russians and some others have said “fuck you,” to them.

I’m not to impressed with them right now. Sure, they did a couple of tricks here on this thread (UFO stuff, quake). They also just did something new with me, personally, just a few days ago; but it wasn’t what they should have done. They know what they should have done. It’s really time for them to start acting like people. It’s time to start talking directly rather than doing a circus act. Come talk with me – or hell go talk with Reeder he can handle it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 503783
11/6/2008 8:40 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Hi Annie
If Obama was a Rothschild choice then it doesn't make sense at all that Rothschild and Rockefeller are in opposing factions (as put forward by f'ford), as Obama was also a CFR member and their choice it seems (with Rockefeller being one of the big plastic cheese whizzes in CFR). The same smoke and mirrors that Brzezinski employed by backing and advising Obama directly while backing McCain indirectly.
Even the name Barak Hussein Obama is a set-up and is part of their inside joke. I wonder what his real name is. Probably Joe Smith or something really average.
This is just too coincidental and flashy (unsubtle trigger) to ever be a coincidence in a trillion years.

Let's hope that Obama is a double agent or a double, double agent (for who then I wonder) and is just waiting to get into position first.
In their constant war of deception they have created such a mess where black is white and white is black but really is white. Then there is red. But is it really red?

I will keep my real insights out of this forum though - as the ac said earlier - why should they (think-tanks) get this type of info for free and with such little effort on their part.

I think that has a lot to do with why really stimulating conversation on glp is so rare these days. Many have moved on once the internet police started their nazi patrols.
 Quoting: WL1 540432


Agree with your post...yes.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/6/2008 8:54 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

That was my post above.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/6/2008 9:27 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Maybe we should start a political movement based on principals of an HWO and the technology paradigm.

Just do it.

All it takes is a website. I don't want to start it right now. I have my reasons.

Every word matters. Keep it simple and honest. Don't add any personal belief to it; keep it real and to the point of doomsday technology.

The ethnocentric elite are confused I think. They really don't know what to do with this advanced technology with regards to all the brainwashed people. The way they've been using it is to create strategic droughts, floods, etc. to further their position of control over all the brainwashed human cattle.

If we just start the political movement, we help them decide. We just do it. They either jump aboard, or drown.

Obama was elected to activate/fulfill the brainwashing on the Democratic side of the America Hegelian Dialectic system. Watching the fulfilled brainwashed faces in the crowd was disturbingly pathetic. It’s a Hollywood production. Just as you feel emotions during a movie, so do you feel them during this latest political production.

Obama isn’t even a descendant of a slave or a black American. In fact, when the slave traders went to Africa, it was the African elite that rounded up those that would be sent to America. Since Obama’s father is an upper class gentleman from Kenya, he probably has ancestors that acted in the role of rounding up those that would be shipped to America to become slaves. Truth is simple, but lost upon the faces of the brainwashed masses, whose twisted minds actually think that this election is some type of accomplishment.

Anyway, an honest world order wouldn’t have any brainwashed people. People would not become happy about such trivial things as these manufactured emotions; manufactured in Hollywood into your mind.

There are different kinds of people, and within those groups, there are the wisest of the elders that make the decisions. That’s an honest world. The historic problem has always been one group enslaving another, and that problem is/was caused by the one very small ethnocentric elite group atop all the others. They thrive off of brainwashing and causing other groups to have conflict with each other.

The Orientals, Russians and some others have said “fuck you,” to them.

I’m not to impressed with them right now. Sure, they did a couple of tricks here on this thread (UFO stuff, quake). They also just did something new with me, personally, just a few days ago; but it wasn’t what they should have done. They know what they should have done. It’s really time for them to start acting like people. It’s time to start talking directly rather than doing a circus act. Come talk with me – or hell go talk with Reeder he can handle it.
 Quoting: OP 544393


A POLITICAL GROUP?
Are you serious?
Another 3rd Party dead end group?

And what is this Party suppose to do besides more talk about "what we stand for"?
Never mind the legal hoops to jump thru to create it the way "they" want it.
Work thru the system? Been there done that.

BTW~ The Zeitgeist Movement is HERE:
[link to thezeitgeistmovement.com]

There are already numerous websites that want to address these issues
Here is The Venus Project:
[link to www.thevenusproject.com]

See, there is lots of activity in this area.
Lots of places for them to watch.

What we need is for them to openly relinquish their suppression of the people so that these types of movements can flourish.

Don't want brainwashed people?
Flip the switch off.
Let the people see, and create a world that is so supportive to advancement that it is a win/win situation.

We already know about Obama and the bread and circus show that is there for us.

Community Service for the rest of your life and no positions of control at all.
We will know all about what you are doing. So you will have to stay clean.

I am not a bible person, but this comes to mind: something like:
Your deeds will be shouted from the roof tops and mountain tops; there will be no hiding.

That is what it will be like when the electronics are turned off and our minds are free.

They should talk to all of us who have participated on this thread.
OP
User ID: 544393
11/6/2008 9:56 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

A POLITICAL GROUP?
Are you serious?
Another 3rd Party dead end group?

And what is this Party suppose to do besides more talk about "what we stand for"?
Never mind the legal hoops to jump thru to create it the way "they" want it.
Work thru the system? Been there done that.

BTW~ The Zeitgeist Movement is HERE:
[link to thezeitgeistmovement.com]

There are already numerous websites that want to address these issues
Here is The Venus Project:
[link to www.thevenusproject.com]

See, there is lots of activity in this area.
Lots of places for them to watch.

What we need is for them to openly relinquish their suppression of the people so that these types of movements can flourish.

Don't want brainwashed people?
Flip the switch off.
Let the people see, and create a world that is so supportive to advancement that it is a win/win situation.

We already know about Obama and the bread and circus show that is there for us.

Community Service for the rest of your life and no positions of control at all.
We will know all about what you are doing. So you will have to stay clean.

I am not a bible person, but this comes to mind: something like:
Your deeds will be shouted from the roof tops and mountain tops; there will be no hiding.

That is what it will be like when the electronics are turned off and our minds are free.

They should talk to all of us who have participated on this thread.
 Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783


Both of those weblinks seem like good starts, but neither address doomsday technology at all (unless you can show me where they do...)

The technology paradigm is the foundation of this new political movement that is an honest world order, or venus project, or Zeitgeist movement (Semantics).

I think both of those websites could easily be adjusted into the reality of the true technology paradigm. What I read about technology on the Zeitgeist site sounds like my brain before I became enlightened with the reality of the true technology paradigm - thus they need to advance a bit more.

I'll be happy to assist. A good start would be them reading through this thread.

Remember, we cannot close Pandora's box of technology. All those who, let's say, voluntarily closed it would then be at the mercy of the last few who decide, suddenly, not to close it. Also, you need advanced technology to "force" everyone to close it. Good luck with that fantasy.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/6/2008 10:09 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

About turning the electronics off~

I think it will be too shocking to people to suddenly see out clearly.
Since this is the HWO, there needs to be an announcement on all channels of TV, radio, newspapers and all media sources; all blog notices, etc. That the world has been filled with these types of waves and these~name them~ are the consequences of the waves.

That these waves are going to BE REDUCED SLOWLY to acclimate the human mind and body to the reduction gradually.
That this reduction will create certain symptoms and results~name them~and that this is fairly normal.
That the best way to handle the adjustment is thus and such.
This is something experts would know about.

Each day, many times a day the amount of reduction will be announced with the resulting symptoms.

This needs to take place over several weeks for obvious reasons.

In this way the population of the world will not go into panic, and will be able to deal with the change they are experiencing.

Anyone having difficulty should be treated at special set up facilities in public places for free such as school gyms, Civic Centers, War Memorials, Hospitals, libraries, churches.
Problem~ even the assistants would be going thru the changes...
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/6/2008 11:03 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

A POLITICAL GROUP?
Are you serious?
Another 3rd Party dead end group?

And what is this Party suppose to do besides more talk about "what we stand for"?
Never mind the legal hoops to jump thru to create it the way "they" want it.
Work thru the system? Been there done that.

BTW~ The Zeitgeist Movement is HERE:
[link to thezeitgeistmovement.com]

There are already numerous websites that want to address these issues
Here is The Venus Project:
[link to www.thevenusproject.com]

See, there is lots of activity in this area.
Lots of places for them to watch.

What we need is for them to openly relinquish their suppression of the people so that these types of movements can flourish.

Don't want brainwashed people?
Flip the switch off.
Let the people see, and create a world that is so supportive to advancement that it is a win/win situation.

We already know about Obama and the bread and circus show that is there for us.

Community Service for the rest of your life and no positions of control at all.
We will know all about what you are doing. So you will have to stay clean.

I am not a bible person, but this comes to mind: something like:
Your deeds will be shouted from the roof tops and mountain tops; there will be no hiding.

That is what it will be like when the electronics are turned off and our minds are free.

They should talk to all of us who have participated on this thread.


Both of those weblinks seem like good starts, but neither address doomsday technology at all (unless you can show me where they do...)

The technology paradigm is the foundation of this new political movement that is an honest world order, or venus project, or Zeitgeist movement (Semantics).

I think both of those websites could easily be adjusted into the reality of the true technology paradigm. What I read about technology on the Zeitgeist site sounds like my brain before I became enlightened with the reality of the true technology paradigm - thus they need to advance a bit more.

I'll be happy to assist. A good start would be them reading through this thread.

Remember, we cannot close Pandora's box of technology. All those who, let's say, voluntarily closed it would then be at the mercy of the last few who decide, suddenly, not to close it. Also, you need advanced technology to "force" everyone to close it. Good luck with that fantasy.
 Quoting: OP 544393


It cannot have anything to do with politics.
You see that don't you?

Politics have no effect because it is mistrusted and controlled.
To get tangled up in that would be the end.

A Movement is what you would what to call it.
Moving this thread to a website.
I am not tech enough to do that sort of thing.
I do ideas, not hands on...

Honestly, OP I scanned those sites. I am not a member, being burned too often at forums... one step outside a forum's ZEITGEIST(ironically enough) and you are toast.
Having watched Zeitgeist Addendum, I took a shot at what the site might be about.

Zeitgeist Movement is obnoxiously verbose:
But having read it I would say that it is espousing freedom of the Human Spirit from the conditioning we have endured, and that once freed, we will grow to recognize the balance between Earth and Tech and take care of both thru growth of the HumanBeing.
I posted the correct addy because someone had it wrong...

Venus Project looks like it wants a joint Human/Tech Society:
"The Venus Project presents a bold, new direction for humanity that entails nothing less than the total redesign of our culture. There are many people today who are concerned with the serious problems that face our modern society: unemployment, violent crime, replacement of humans by technology, over-population and a decline in the Earth's ecosystems. As you will see, The Venus Project is dedicated to confronting all of these problems by actively engaging in the research, development, and application of workable solutions. Through the use of innovative approaches to social awareness, educational incentives, and the consistent application of the best that science and technology can offer directly to the social system, The Venus Project offers a comprehensive plan for social reclamation in which human beings, technology, and nature will be able to coexist in a long-term, sustainable state of dynamic equilibrium."

So these are useful sites as you say, just not primarily tech focus.
OP they all go hand in hand...each leads the other.

I love nature, but I am not a pioneer any longer.
I need an easier way to get things done.
My main focus right now is being free.
And I KNOW that a lot of it has to do with turning off the waves that attack our brains.
The tin foil hats is not without merit.
Cell phones and the emitting towers are actually destroying brain cells, so the existing Tech must be made safe.

Cleaning up the food chain and air and water is also completely necessary to reactivate out intelligence.

There is a hand in hand~ness about this.
The tech necessary to clean things up has to be developed, but to develop it we need to be free of the wave attack. And reorganize our thinking to accept the change, get over the vengfulness(which leaps up in my heart, until I refocus on forward motion), and get comfortable with so many possibilities on our collective plates.

And in a completely open and honest manner.
"This is what we are going to try next..there will be a disruption of service for X amount of time as we switch to the new system."

Read Goonan's books...great stuff.

Your help is really essential as you are the originator of this thread,unless someone with know-how steps forward.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/6/2008 12:38 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

OP~ and everyone on this thread~
Give me 13:20 minutes of your time.
Watch this vid of their vision of what is possible.
It is pretty amazing.
[link to video.google.com]


Understand what the Venus Project is about.
[link to www.thevenusproject.com]

No, there is no mention of controlling the doomsday tech...but when you watch the vid and the tech ideas involved, it is clear that this is essential for the protection of the Population.
This is a place where those ideas can be shared.


If you look at both sites you find that they support each other; go from one to the other.
So that the social changes are supported by tech and tech supports the social changes.
This is very important.
I recommend looking more closely at the sites OP and everyone.
This vid from Venus Project is promoted on Zeitgeist Movement, top left. And Vis Versa.
Zeitgeist most definitely discusses tech: Go to the top~
"Understanding". There are sections that do include Technology.
This is a site under construction and there isn't a forum up yet.
But that would be the place to discuss this further, thereby eliminating the need for yet another site.


I remember as a child going to the World's Fair back in the 60's. Probably all of that was possible and none of it materialized.
Because of You Know Who.

Time to change Ladies and Gentlemen!
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/6/2008 12:44 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

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