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The actual New World Order that is here

 
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10/19/2008 01:40 AM
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OP is either a liar or has been lied to


I'm not a lier.

If the ancient ethnocentric people decide to kill most of us, they can do that; the technology exists. That's the sad truth.

What you do here matters. This push for a new honest world order is not a lie. It is a possible path.
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if we don't fear the control freaks
then, they have no power over us
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10/19/2008 01:42 AM
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Personally, I don't know of any technology that can "kill every human at the push of a button". It sounds like this putative technology will be used to justify a highly invasive "panopticon" apparatus (cameras in every bedroom, microphones embedded in every wall, etc.) in the service of a totalitarian world system.

To what extent will people need to be sold on such a system, and how will they be persuaded? When all is said and done, will reasonable people suspect deception?
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10/19/2008 01:43 AM
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Re: The actual New World Order that is here
if you are told that a totally honest person is educating you
you'll know they are lying
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the people who have the secret technology will proceed to "play god"
ever read "Brave New World"?
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What you are forgetting is this:

Today, they have the secret technology and they are playing god. They have been doing this for a long, long time. Thousands of years in fact, but with less dangerous technology. More recently, all the droughts, floods and other "natural disasters" are them playing god.

So we are changing that now.

The ancient ethnocentric elite realize now, that the technology is way to fucking dangerous for them to play god with it more. Also, the fact that the Chinese, Japanese, Russians, Thais, Koreans and many others have told them to stop doing it helps make them realize that this new system of honesty must be constructed to prevent a technological doomsday.
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the people who have the secret technology will proceed to "play god"
ever read "Brave New World"?



What you are forgetting is this:

Today, they have the secret technology and they are playing god. They have been doing this for a long, long time. Thousands of years in fact, but with less dangerous technology. More recently, all the droughts, floods and other "natural disasters" are them playing god.

So we are changing that now.

The ancient ethnocentric elite realize now, that the technology is way to fucking dangerous for them to play god with it more. Also, the fact that the Chinese, Japanese, Russians, Thais, Koreans and many others have told them to stop doing it helps make them realize that this new system of honesty must be constructed to prevent a technological doomsday.
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if you replace one "god"
with your own version of being "god"
you have not improved the situation
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honesty can't be forced
and self deception will always be with us
and mass group self deception is the most illusive to identify
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We shall see...honesty can be quite powerful and pervasive if based around nature.
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This honesty will require a lot of people giving up a lot of power; why will they do that?


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Listen to Fulford. He has already discussed this. But my addition is the fact that they now realize that their ancient ethnocentrism will cause a technological doomsday.
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10/19/2008 01:54 AM
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Will you be around tomorrow for more discussion?
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10/19/2008 01:56 AM
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honesty can't be forced
and self deception will always be with us
and mass group self deception is the most illusive to identify


We shall see...honesty can be quite powerful and pervasive if based around nature.
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nature can be quite deceptive
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This honesty will require a lot of people giving up a lot of power; why will they do that?


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Listen to Fulford. He has already discussed this. But my addition is the fact that they now realize that their ancient ethnocentrism will cause a technological doomsday.
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i don't fancy making Fulford into my "god"
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10/19/2008 01:58 AM
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but, no one is totally honest
so, who will do the educating?
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I am totally honest...probably why I was brought aboard. In fact, if you ever get to hear that entire story you will be moved by it.

I can't give details now. I'm hopeful that as things go forward with the honest world order, I can tell the whole story.
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this Fulford?
quote:
[link to www.fourwinds10.com]
Oct. 4, 2008

The people of China and Japan now have in their hands a historic opportunity to create permanent peace on earth. The inbred clans that have been fomenting vast wars around the planet for the past several hundred years are bankrupt. If the Asians have the courage, they will demand, in exchange for agreeing to a bail-out, that the Americans and Europeans participate in negotiations to create a world government.

This would not be the tyrannical New World Order long planned by the white elite. Rather it would be a government that works for the interests of the average person and life form on this planet. Such a government would be the minimum necessary to replace war with court battles and ensure equal opportunity for all humans and safety for all creatures.

We need such a government because humanity has already wiped out 30% of the species on the planet even as millions starve and wars rage. This is because the world financial system we know have acts like a giant black hole sucking money away from the poor and the weak. Simply by taking money from trillionaires who could never possibly spend it, we could put $100,000 in the hands of each person on earth.

The Chinese and Japanese now have the leverage to demand that the Americans open up their secret bases for world inspection as well as release all the technology they have hidden for their own benefit. With such technology we could make the deserts and arctic regions bloom with life even as we travel to the stars.

A world government would allow us to replenish the seas with fish and rebuild our precious eco-systems. The poor could become well-educated, well-nourished and filled with hope.

If on the other hand, the Asians agree to bail out the Nazis who have taken over the US government, they will continue with their horrific genocidal plans. They will simply continue to manufacture disease, war and starvation in order to maintain their grip on humanity.

We are at a historical moment of great import. We have reached a harmonic situation where the peoples of the world face a choice between a win-win solution and a lose-lose solution. I sure hope the Asians grab their destiny.

Benjamin Fulford
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but, no one is totally honest
so, who will do the educating?



I am totally honest...probably why I was brought aboard. In fact, if you ever get to hear that entire story you will be moved by it.

I can't give details now. I'm hopeful that as things go forward with the honest world order, I can tell the whole story.
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you are only as honest as you can be
but, you are not able to be absolutely truthful
because there are many things you don't know
because your perception is flawed
selective perception can never be called "honesty"
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Personally, I don't know of any technology that can "kill every human at the push of a button". It sounds like this putative technology will be used to justify a highly invasive "panopticon" apparatus (cameras in every bedroom, microphones embedded in every wall, etc.) in the service of a totalitarian world system.

To what extent will people need to be sold on such a system, and how will they be persuaded? When all is said and done, will reasonable people suspect deception?
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Pursuasion won't take much. It will probably take about one hour for most people, but a few days for the rest. Once people see what can be done with the tech, they will get very scared, but also very enlightened as to the technology paradigm.
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Re: The actual New World Order that is here
if you replace one "god"
with your own version of being "god"
you have not improved the situation
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By all means, suggest something. They are listening. You have their ear. This is a rare opportunity.
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10/19/2008 02:02 AM
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Will you be around tomorrow for more discussion?
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I don't predict tomorrow. Probably...not sure.
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if you replace one "god"
with your own version of being "god"
you have not improved the situation



By all means, suggest something. They are listening. You have their ear. This is a rare opportunity.
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i suggest they listen to Ron Paul
and stop trying to "one up" the last "godplayers"
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nature can be quite deceptive
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We have to see the truth as best we can.
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Will you be around tomorrow for more discussion?


I don't predict tomorrow. Probably...not sure.
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if you can't make a promise
how can you say you are honest?
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i don't fancy making Fulford into my "god"
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He isn't and nor does he want to be.
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nature can be quite deceptive


We have to see the truth as best we can.
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but, what you don't see is the problem
and then you proceed as though you see all
which is not honest
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i don't fancy making Fulford into my "god"


He isn't and nor does he want to be.
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then why quote him as if he is infallible?
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Re: The actual New World Order that is here
this Fulford?
quote:
[link to www.fourwinds10.com]
Oct. 4, 2008

The people of China and Japan now have in their hands a historic opportunity to create permanent peace on earth. The inbred clans that have been fomenting vast wars around the planet for the past several hundred years are bankrupt. If the Asians have the courage, they will demand, in exchange for agreeing to a bail-out, that the Americans and Europeans participate in negotiations to create a world government.

This would not be the tyrannical New World Order long planned by the white elite. Rather it would be a government that works for the interests of the average person and life form on this planet. Such a government would be the minimum necessary to replace war with court battles and ensure equal opportunity for all humans and safety for all creatures.

We need such a government because humanity has already wiped out 30% of the species on the planet even as millions starve and wars rage. This is because the world financial system we know have acts like a giant black hole sucking money away from the poor and the weak. Simply by taking money from trillionaires who could never possibly spend it, we could put $100,000 in the hands of each person on earth.

The Chinese and Japanese now have the leverage to demand that the Americans open up their secret bases for world inspection as well as release all the technology they have hidden for their own benefit. With such technology we could make the deserts and arctic regions bloom with life even as we travel to the stars.

A world government would allow us to replenish the seas with fish and rebuild our precious eco-systems. The poor could become well-educated, well-nourished and filled with hope.

If on the other hand, the Asians agree to bail out the Nazis who have taken over the US government, they will continue with their horrific genocidal plans. They will simply continue to manufacture disease, war and starvation in order to maintain their grip on humanity.

We are at a historical moment of great import. We have reached a harmonic situation where the peoples of the world face a choice between a win-win solution and a lose-lose solution. I sure hope the Asians grab their destiny.

Benjamin Fulford
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Yes that's him. Remember he's only as good as the information they are providing him. Some specific items have been dis-information, but the general truth is very real.
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S peeking hypothetically

Once your "leaders" decide to reveal the "truth", Just keep in mind that we have been told a lot of BS that was also presented has truth. So they better do a very and i mean very good job to be able to convince the thinkers.

Thank you
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you are only as honest as you can be
but, you are not able to be absolutely truthful
because there are many things you don't know
because your perception is flawed
selective perception can never be called "honesty"
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You, me, all of us will be exactly the best that we can. Get over your imperfections.
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10/19/2008 02:08 AM
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i don't fancy making Fulford into my "god"


He isn't and nor does he want to be.

then why quote him as if he is infallible?
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He's pretty accurate, but nobody is perfect.
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Re: The actual New World Order that is here
you are only as honest as you can be
but, you are not able to be absolutely truthful
because there are many things you don't know
because your perception is flawed
selective perception can never be called "honesty"


You, me, all of us will be exactly the best that we can. Get over your imperfections.
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so, if we are all imperfect
we don't need other imperfect people playing god to "save us"
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Re: The actual New World Order that is here
i don't fancy making Fulford into my "god"


He isn't and nor does he want to be.

then why quote him as if he is infallible?


He's pretty accurate, but nobody is perfect.
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so, your plan is imperfect
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S peeking hypothetically

Once your "leaders" decide to reveal the "truth", Just keep in mind that we have been told a lot of BS that was also presented has truth. So they better do a very and i mean very good job to be able to convince the thinkers.

Thank you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 527655


You will have no doubts at all if this proceeds forward.

There will be real life lived by us all. Tyranny will be dead.

BUT, the technology paradigm will be our new "god."
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10/19/2008 02:11 AM
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so, your plan is imperfect
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Absolutely. They are listening now. Do you have perfect plan?

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