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| WL1
User ID: 546409
11/9/2008 9:42 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Hey OP,
I received an email from BP a couple days ago. This thread is real folks.
Stranger things have happened.
peace - reeder Quoting: reedbecker
No way.
Brad Pitt sent you an email!!!
I would have been a bit more impressed if it was Angela Jolie with all her connections (not).
British Petroleum.....now that is getting better
Black Panthers.....am I getting closer
Sorry but I don't see the point in personal messages (other than a bit of fun) unless you share the details 'Honest' w.o. |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/9/2008 10:11 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
This may be it.
I went thru a prelude of "it" in 2003. It started on a tuesday, got big the next sunday night (big = supernaturally energized). This bigness state lasted into the following monday and tuesday, then wed was like a switch was thrown;like the parachute opened. Some kind of switch happened from that wed night into thursday morning.
If this is it, tomorrow is the last "normal" day. By thursday of next week, everything has changed....
That works for me. I'll have to get someone to get the things for me, however. But I have a trusted person that can do that. I'll report the details to the place.
Other people, don't try to figure this out. Frankly, it's probably nothing. I'm just proceeding with the possibility that the person who posted above actually knows what he's talking about and it's related to something. Quoting: OP 546815
From Four Winds post:
From the beginning of my part, in the telling of the tale of the program, which would one day change this world, I've have known, it would not be easy. As it was explained all those years ago, if the resistance fought, the powers would be forced to bankrupt them, which would bring a shudder to the world. One that would not be quickly forgotten and in fact, would be the basis of the future generations, a rebirth, if you will. If you are more technical, you could call this a 'reboot' of the system. We have left the 20th century but some have tried to keep it going, so afraid of a world, they no longer controlled, even tho a new system had been designed that served the whole rather than just the few. Trepidation is in the air, as many question what has happened.
Effectively, the bridge to the 21st century has been blown up, there's no return to the past, the world must move on. The earth is way too large to continue to use small minds to govern it. They wanted globalism and got it, now they are frightened of the implications, control of it has gotten away from them. Now it's too late to shove the geni back in the bottle. "Be careful what you wish for, you may get it." There's no stopping an idea, whose time has come. Everybit of what has been held as the 'truth', will be called into question, as the young one's take a step on assuming themselves and molding how they want this world to be, for them. "Yesterday's glory won't make it today, you want to retire, get out of the way." This applies especially to those who've lived their lives to create a prison planet, with all people in subjection to what they decide. Without condition, I will tell you, the illumanati is on the run, fearful of what they hoped would never happen to their plans. In their arrogance they spurned the advice given them, hoping beyond hope, somehow they could negate what they knew was coming at them. Nothing is more powerful on this planet than the inherent power of consciousness, something the illumanati has tried to direct with all their 'secret knowledge'. No one or group is more powerful than the Spirit within each soul, and that, my friends is what is at work here. There is no choice but to ride the wave, as the tsunami is flooding across the planet.
While everyone scrambles around trying to decide, whether mr obama is a good thing or the devil, himself, remember to judge breaks the tenets of christianity. To remain ignorant of the whole serves no one as no proper decision can be lasting if all information is not viewed and comprehended. Knowledge is lacking without wisdom applied. You who have studied such things, pull out your old books an study what the number 44 is all about. Perhaps, you will understand this frequency will not be 'subject' to corruption, entropy, it must strive for the perfection within it. A merger of spirit and flesh, quite the fearful thing for the uninitiated, use to the mundane. Let me jog some memories, the year 2012, has been stamped in rock, all around this planet. What caused the ancient civilizations to find this year significant from so many thousands of years ago? The answer you must find within yourself, in that 'closet' the Master spoke of.
What am I saying today? Change in the most drastic of terms is upon us all and no one anywhere on this planet will be able to avoid it. Even islam is looking for the 'iman mahdi' to appear, even as christianity and 'isreal' looks for the messiah to appear. In truth all great religions are waiting for someone to step in and handle the 'stuff' around here. The new agers are looking for ships of light to drop in and handle everything for us. What if we are under the 'pottery barn rules', 'you break it, you pay for it'? What if it's our job to take what we are given and put this place back together,
honoring all life, disrespecting no one? What if our real test is to find a way to embrace our fellow travelers in life and end the divisions, the bad guys have nutured to keep the hate going?
This, that we have waited for all these years is, upon us now. Not even the pope wanted to stand in it's way, when the opportunity was given him. The last ditch effort to save the seed money to create the 4th Reich, he found bigger than the station placed on the vatican. Basel 2 compliant banks, the entire compliment, are ready, liquid, and await our arrival. I was not given the moment they hit us, I only know we are there and it's a 'lock'. I'm sure people are taking bathroom breaks at this moment, might even be some nausea, the world will never be the same when these strike. It might surprise you but bankers get the barn yard runs, too. This begins the 3-5 years of structural changes in the us banking system, as it is brought back up from the corruption it has lived in for over 100 years. It will be up to us to lend a hand where we can and where it can be received, over these years. This will be no walk in the park, people. Our hearts and intellects will be greatly challenged by what we see around us, but trust your hearts to lead you as these challenges are faced. What was inconceivable just a few years ago, will now be realized. There are currently divisions in families and friends that, due to circumstances, must be healed, if only for survival purposes. What happened to the soviet union after it broke apart, should be looked at, because that's what america is looking at....only tougher because those people had already been dealing with hardships for a number of years.
Stand by and be ready for your freedom and your new life, it's any moment now. I am watching my trip wires, because I know I've gotten my last update from the inside of the operations. I know I missed getting to at least one person for a consultation, but hey this ain't no joke and I got both ears and eyes working over time. I give thanks to all of you for taking up this challenge and remaining steadfast, despite what's been thrown at you. |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/9/2008 10:20 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Hey OP,
I received an email from BP a couple days ago. This thread is real folks.
Stranger things have happened.
peace - reeder
No way.
Brad Pitt sent you an email!!!
I would have been a bit more impressed if it was Angela Jolie with all her connections (not).
British Petroleum.....now that is getting better
Black Panthers.....am I getting closer
Sorry but I don't see the point in personal messages (other than a bit of fun) unless you share the details 'Honest' w.o. Quoting: WL1 546409
LOL...you are feeling playful and feisty, eh? ;>
I can understand why it was important to reeder. Just a personal acknowledgment that they are listening.
Regardless of whether any of us know the "who" of it. It was someone that was important yet difficult for reeder to get hold of.
Has nothing to do with honesty or not, any more than OP not sharing personal info.
IMO.
It is not to deny what OP was able to have directed...it was about reeder wanting a personal message.
Cool beans for me!
I feel I got my personal acknowledgment, and that just adds to the validity...something to relate to directly. |
| WL1
User ID: 546409
11/9/2008 11:04 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Hey OP,
I received an email from BP a couple days ago. This thread is real folks.
Stranger things have happened.
peace - reeder
No way.
Brad Pitt sent you an email!!!
I would have been a bit more impressed if it was Angela Jolie with all her connections (not).
British Petroleum.....now that is getting better
Black Panthers.....am I getting closer
Sorry but I don't see the point in personal messages (other than a bit of fun) unless you share the details 'Honest' w.o.
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LOL...you are feeling playful and feisty, eh? ;>
I can understand why it was important to reeder. Just a personal acknowledgment that they are listening.
Regardless of whether any of us know the "who" of it. It was someone that was important yet difficult for reeder to get hold of.
Has nothing to do with honesty or not, any more than OP not sharing personal info.
IMO.
It is not to deny what OP was able to have directed...it was about reeder wanting a personal message.
Cool beans for me!
I feel I got my personal acknowledgment, and that just adds to the validity...something to relate to directly. Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783
Yes you are right......I guess I have been reading too much of the Robert Mugabe do-it-yourself personal guide to making friends and influencing people.
Maybe more subtlety required, and again yes, you are right. I guess it is reeders business and if it makes anyone happier than before then good - and jumping beans for me (or just baked beans).
Your fourwinds post above that was good. Yes stories from all over the place are interconnecting. It's just down to how you interpret what is actually happening and whether any world order structure discussion is actually even necessary or possible before the changes manifest (I can feel them throwing everything they've got at 'it' to block -I guess same as every other cycle before). Things feel a bit brittle right now and that is a bit of a concern if they are resisting the changes with their usual arrogant defiance. This is far more important than watching what the mighty Obama does next - as per your post above.
Anyway got to go for now.
All the best to You. |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/10/2008 7:46 AM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Back into the 3D world here~
I don't even know what to hope for~ the choices of
action-result stink...unless They Choose Ron Paul...that would be interesting...
But someone is up to games...all planned of course.
[link to therightperspective.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
SCOTUS Tells Obama To Produce Birth Certificate
O, bummer!Lawyer Philip Berg’s lawsuit questioning Barack Obama’s “natural born” status has entered a do-or-die phase after the Supreme Court has ordered the president-elect to produce his birth certificate by December 1st.
Berg, who appealed his case to America’s highest court, was told by Justice David Souter’s Clerk that his petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied. The Clerk also required the defendants (Obama, the DNC, and FEC) to respond to the Writ of Certiorari by December 1. At that time, Obama must present an authentic birth certificate to the Court, which has been sealed by Hawaii governor Linda Lingle. Berg will get to respond afterwards.
Failure to do that will surely inspire the skepticism of the Justices in Obama, who are not used to being defied. The Court will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship.
“I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate,” says attorney and writer Raymond S. Kraft. “They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect.”
Obama’s own campaign website has stated the president-elect was a Kenyan citizen until 1982. Audio of Obama’s Kenyan grandmother saying he was born in Kenya has recently surfaced.
On December 13, the Electoral College meets to casts its votes. If it has been determined that Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to become President of the United States, the Electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.
3 Responses to “SCOTUS Tells Obama To Produce Birth Certificate”
1. Pete Jefferson
November 9th, 2008 - 5:50 pm
The Supremes have issued an order because they want that birth certificate as part of their response to the writ of certiorari. If they don’t get it, then cert might well be granted, and *then* it would go to a hearing.
And they don’t have to decertify the entire election. They might, however, dictate that the Electoral Collegians cannot mark any of their ballots for Barack Obama and must mark their ballots for someone else as President. And this would pretty much “unbind” them from having to vote for the named candidate on the November ballot.
I’m not saying that John McCain would win by default. I am saying that this would create quite an interesting situation, to be sure.
2. Anonymous
November 9th, 2008 - 5:55 pm
In light of Obama’s refusal to provide his birth certificate to the court in answer to Berg’s lawsuit; if it turns out that Obama is not a natural born citizen as defined by the constitution, then one can only conclude that his intention all along was to create a constitutional crisis, forcing the Supreme Court to decide between overturning Section I Article II of the constitution, or unseating a popularly elected President - either of which would undermine the very fabric of our constitutional form of government.
If he’s not a natural born citizen and they overturn Section I Article II, half the country will revolt because the SCOTUS ignored the constitution.
If he’s not a natural born citizen and they unseat him according to the constitution, half the country will revolt because the man they chose as President will be removed by the courts.
That is a no-win situation, and reeks of totalitarian divide-and-conquer.
I pray, quite earnestly, that Barack Hussein Obama is indeed a natural born citizen of the United States of America, and that he has the documentation to prove it.
3. kreatre2008
November 9th, 2008 - 11:17 pm
To “Anonymous”…
The Supreme Court can’t overturn Article II, Section 1. It’s not in their authority to re-write or overturn a provision of the Constitution. If Obama proves to be ineligible, they should decertify the election. It’s as simple as that. Of course, we’ll have rioting in the streets because most people in this country don’t understand that we live in a democratic republic which is governed by rule of law — NOT by direct rule of the people. The law must prevail or else, it gives way to tyranny and mob rule. Therefore, the Supreme Court must decertify the election of Obama and instruct the electors to select someone else. We cannot ignore the Constitution. Doing so takes us down a dangerous road that will eventually end with the destruction of our Constitution and with it, our civil liberties. Government would then be able to do whatever it wants with no limits to its power. |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/10/2008 8:04 AM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
WL1 Posted:
Your fourwinds post above that was good. Yes stories from all over the place are interconnecting. It's just down to how you interpret what is actually happening and whether any world order structure discussion is actually even necessary or possible before the changes manifest (I can feel them throwing everything they've got at 'it' to block -I guess same as every other cycle before). Things feel a bit brittle right now and that is a bit of a concern if they are resisting the changes with their usual arrogant defiance. This is far more important than watching what the mighty Obama does next - as per your post above.
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There is that Element, indeed!
But we will still need to reformulate how we go about business...it will still be our world and not the ones who may assist us. Even if it is Divine Intervention, I feel this holds true.
But it would take out TPTB angle which would make things so much easier! ;>
For me, these days have been difficult...my husband is out of town, and that lends itself to 'missing a piece of myself'. Yet I did not feel at a loss or even "stretched" the last time he was gone.
So there is something going on that is effecting me, and I can't see what it is. It has to be big because I have learned to shield myself from taking on outside energies in this manner.
Getting worse too, edge of weepy.
Have to ride this wave.
Was it today(Monday) or yesterday that was the last "normal" day? And by Thursday if this is true, all will be different....
Hmmmm...story posted above? |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/10/2008 8:21 AM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
There are a lot of 3D "ifs" that are being discussed on the GLP link...interesting....
WL1~ these all sound more credibly possible than any divine intervention that I may have eluded to.
Been down that road too many times...I can't do it again.
If that is so, let me be surprised this time.
Not that I don't know that there is other life and an Intelligent Source, but that we are here to work this out ourselves, and we are able to do so...  |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/10/2008 11:43 AM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
From SHR on the SCOTUS and Obama Birth Certificate thread~
This is laid out well:
"Aside from the screaming and fuck you's here are the basic facts.
Obama has refused to produce a certified copy of his full Certificate of live birth, don't bother posting a bunch of links to the short form one he has made public, everyone knows by now what it is and isn't.
Prior to 2001 the short form COLB did not exist, if you had or asked for a copy of your birth record from Hawaii what you got was a legal stamped sealed copy of the long form. Since Obama had to have used that for various college admissions, student loans of whatever, those records have also been kept from access to anyone, refused to be released by Obama.
The long form type is still easily available if you ask the state of Hawaii dep't of health for it. It contains much more detailed information than the short form does. Such as whether you were a single or multiple birth, and legal name changes you may have had, hospital of birth if there was one, doctors signatures, registrars signatures etc etc.
President elect Obama has thus far refused to produce this easily attainable document and make it public. As well as also refusing to release any records where it more likely than not was used. ie college records.
Whether or not there is any legal question contained in it nobody knows because the answer thus far has been "fuck you not showing it" There is no legal mechanism that anyone can find to force him to produce more than the short form COLB thus far and the only time that anything can be questioned at all is when congress convenes fully in accordance with the Electoral Count of 1877 which is still in effect.
Both houses of congress meet together and Dick Cheney the president of the Senate presiding. At that time any objections can be raised and any objection must come from a representative and a Senator, the Senate and the house would then convene and go over whatever objection there might be.
Obama knows the law, if he doesn't? he has an army of lawyers that do. Make all the jokes about it you wish to, but the new president has chosen to hide his full birth certificate and that cannot be denied as it is indeed fact and true. So decide whether that is acceptable to you or not, seems to me that many are are fine with him saying saying fuck off, many more than that are not aware of it at all.
As far as I can see there is no demand from the SCOTUS to Obama to produce his full Birth Certificate. But I only go by the actual docs from the SC and not what people say. Berg has petitioned for Writ of Certiorari and the next document that you will see is either a waiver by Obama, highly unlikely, or distributed for discussion by the SC which often comes past the deadline if you read around in other case before the SC. I would guess that that if the SC issues a distributed for discussion before the deadline? that are taking it more seriously than an average case. After that it's either Writ denied or accepted.
You can follow the document releases here or by searching for "08-4340" (the case number) under dockets.
[link to search.access.gpo.gov]
So, the whole thing really boils down to letter of the law legal or not. President elect Obama is hiding his full birth certificate from the American people, even under legal action petitioning him to release it. So you either accept him doing that or you do not.
My opinion is that it is unacceptable, regardless of the reason. Same goes for all the other records he has refused to release, his college records, client list of who he was a lawyer for etc etc. If you are willing to accept this, what else would be willing to accept. To me this displays exactly how President Obama will act as the New President. I will let you know only what I feel like letting you know and if you don't like it? fuck you sue me, and I got better lawyers than you do so kiss my ass America."
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So it looks like more of the same so far unless he agrees to show the correct form, regardless of whether the SCOTUS asks for it. |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/10/2008 1:33 PM | | S. who C.
User ID: 547891
11/10/2008 5:40 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Op, i found the name of your thread and what you wrote below, somewhat contradictory... ridiculous.
Some people may understand... the test goes on and we are not doing very well at all. Please consider the following comments marked: + S. who C.
Hello Operator,
1. Did you even notice my comment on page 31? Of course, if so, you just pass it along and concentrate in your... seemingly misguided "information"... perhaps... honesty???!
2. Even earthquakes on the 4 to 5 Richter mag are quite numerous... and those below are in the thousands... of course this is not impressive at all.
3. Earthquakes are of natural (geologic) origin, but perhaps what may be manipulated to a certain degree is the potential enhancement of the energy liberation... that is very doubtful in any case and it is even...
4. Is someone fullfilling any request? Doubtful?
5. Why do you need to feel fullfilled by...?
6. The "genetic fail" is not possible? Why did you know that? Can you be more dishonest with such kind of statements?
7. Actually the world powers have so many devices that if just partially unleashed them, that will take to an absolute end the present human civilization on Earth and most likely, even our species and many others, even most of the biosphere processes for a while and most of the biodiversity with which we share the planet. There is no sure way of using a controlled portion of these technological aberrations and even if some manege to do so, they will be polluting the environment for thousands (and more) years ahead, and of course, commiting a repulsive act of destruction/genocide/ecocide which is not wise by any means.
8. Genetic fails had happened for much "insignificant" proofs of such kind of devices... and through the widespread pollution all over the planet from this and specially from many other technological "developments"... in many, many ways... why you think that there are amphibians with several legs and other mutations? Does the cancer rates tell you nothing? You are being completely unsighfull and misguided... although you might be "honest"... think again and fix your interpretations.
9. We must learn much more, share everything and change most of our present bad behaviours toward Nature´s wonders, including the overall biosphere and of course, our fellow humans. The test is going, and it seems we are finding it quite difficult to solve... but there is hope ; )
1. I didn’t ignore it; I read it. It wasn’t relevant. You call yourself a scientist. If you are not working with secret cutting edge technology, then you are a caveman in comparison. PhDs are just part of today’s matrix.
+ ok, the problem is that it is not irrelevant, but rather among the most urgent and relevant things... among...
2. This particular quake happened as 12:01, October 31. that is very significant given what I said regarding October 30. If you can’t see that, fine. Not all people have a mind to truly understand probabilities.
+ perhaps, but as i had not a comprehensive database regarding earthquakes in such area (as most people, even most geologists not working on the issue) then how you want that we make up even a probability. There are thousands of earthquakes and even this region has had such in the past. I will pass along your unkind comments, but this don´t speak too well about your honest and constructive intentions
3. Like I said…you are a caveman. You have become blinded with the idea that you are at the top of human knowledge. You are only at the top of public human knowledge. It is sad to read what you have typed.
+ Ah yeah, and you might be a ghost... i don´t blind myself or try not to, i´m quite the opposite of being selfish, greedy and interested... and do think this is obviously a major failure, just look around.
+ Are you so upsetted to learn that Earthquakes are a natural phenomena on this and other places? Sorry for you.
4. It is highly improbable that someone is not fulfilling requests. In fact, on the order of millions to one. Therefore, it is wisest to proceed with the knowledge that somebody has made the decisions to do both the UFO and the Earthquake.
+ Do you have a page with a comprehensive database and analyses of the quakes there? Where is it?
An UFO? Perhaps, perhaps not... this is somewhat irrelevant in comparison with the major challenges ahead for our technological civilization... some of whose you simply clasified as "irrelevant" without any explanation. Is this wisefull?
5. It’s just reality. Need is irrelevant.
+ I have serious doubts about the serious/relevant challenges being included in your mental constructions, op.
6. I’m not dishonest. There is a very high probability that with two siblings, man and woman, you could re-populate the planet and create as much human diversity as exists today (it would take, perhaps, a million years to achieve that, but it could be done). There is, of course, also a small chance that the brother and sister would mate, and all their offspring would have some kind of problem that would prevent further mating etc…but that is the smaller probability, not the larger one.
+ You might be honest, but you certainly are misinformed on the issues and your conclusions are bad suited. They are even an example of the limitations that we face as humankind and that keeps us mostly in the natural (expected) pathway... please understand that what we must look is to be out of this pathway, while respecting and taking care of the biosphere. Notice that in the following points. Most humans think they are alone in this planet to eat everything, they remain thinking that everything is infinite, so despite their individual rationalism and intelligence they/we may be acting just as any other organism finishing their meal... without a plan for future meals, and without profound conscience/comprehension of others.
7. Yes, there is doomsday technology. I doubt you know all the creative means to accomplish total genocides, but you know some, so that is good.
+ It´s irrelevant what i may know or ignore... the issue is what humankind is going to do for making a bright future and avoid the possible destructions... and we shall start fixing/dealing with the current ecocide, you don´t even need high technological threats to be unleashed... we are already facing great challenges that you are just... mislooking. That´s quite incredible! Think about.
8. Genetic fails in nature can certainly happen because conditions are harsher. But the example of gave of two humans under controlled conditions would go like this. They would have as many offspring as possible; perhaps 20 kids. Some of those kids would have problems and would note reproduce. Some would be healthy, etc…
+ You miss my point and keep building on the very limited traditional view that is blinding us and endangering our future. Let´s suppose that under the controlled conditions you rise some... humans. And then? Biodiversity all around is being destroyed at a larger rate than it is being even catalogued... not even DNA studied, not understood comprehensively but for a few exceptions (and this remain often limited). There are between 5 to 35 million species in the Earth right now, with complex relationships, convergences, mutualism and interdependence... but still people think that when you talk about biological conservation and sound/rational resource management you are talking about sheeps, cattle, chickens, wheat, corn, rice and so on to a few hundred species... they found it difficult to understand where things come from and what the movements within the ecosystem might be... even when presented with evidences and prospective plans it is often quite difficult to merge this into the present paradigm... and it this gargantuan difficulty is after all, natural in many ways... and it has so little to do with technology.
That´s why we need to advance not just technology, i thought that was one of your main points. I think it is.
9. Yes, nature is honest.
Yes and no... "Nature simply is", honesty is a human value, an artificial concept/abstraction that we must endorse... although it might be controversial when coming to certain issues, when those potentially exposed to a communication could be damaged or could bring damage with such an honest action... i´m for honesty, but again, honesty must share the list of main values with knowledge, intelligence/rationalism, compassion, love, justice/integration and perhaps others... and not claim to replace greed... just alone.
That could be worst. Quoting: OP 546036
I don´t intend to offend, op... just brought you ideas.
Concerning our "shared" future, i think that we really need some wide paradigm shifts and i´m convinced that the best way is through peaceful and planned transition... not imposition and high risk unleashments of negative things...
Concerning life on the planet, i think it would be extremely hard even for a much more advanced civilization (human or non human) to preserve even a small part of the current biological marvels... even at a species level... much more less in an intraspecific genetic variation.
While for the ecosystem functioning, even if much more resilient than we might expect, the changes might prove strongly damaging and undermining for future human enterprises... if we don´t succeed to change for... good.
Thanks for the thread,
Best hopes for a better world,
A Scientist who Cares
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| S. who C.
User ID: 547891
11/10/2008 5:52 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
There seems to be honesty at least in the first two pages of this thread, but honesty is not the only concern, not the only need for an alternative paradigm structure for a technological civilization. It´s an important part, nevertheless, although it may not be workable at the extreme. Radical positions and absolutes should be avoided and a rational buildup with many tones/colors should better be implemented, as best as possible.
Make the best we can with the best we have.
Also, another question. What would be on the agenda, right as soon the laws are passed, and our planet will become 1 prison, isntead of 200+ prisons. Like , what would be the goal of humanity ? To get in the outter space, and try to conquer the whole universe ? Is that the technological delema here ? The so- called elite doesnt know what people of the planet want ? and they sent some fool to some troll board to find out the menu for the new world order ?
If some elite official is really reading this, i would like to say : Stop the mass slaghtering of the humanity, give tesla technology to people, and give all the land to people. So that us people can do whatever we want.
You're response is actually quite healthy. This is delving into the psychology of the frustration of the old world order.
In fact, the frustration that the old world order creates within people is the fundamental flaw of that system. That's why doomsday is more probable with that system.
You need to be happy and relieved that the old world order is about to be extinct and part of the "ancient bad times" of human history. The honest world order changes everything. It changes how you feel and think about everything. What we do just depends upon what we decide to do.
We need not all do exactly the same damn thing. Obviously, who gets to develop the dangerous technology is highly controlled, that is all. If you rise to that level, you can probably work on that technology. It’s just very, very damn controlled.
+ Interesting, but not thorougfull... and, surely, quite illustrative of the problems that persist in the present malfunctioning and unsustainable global system... and could not necessarily be so "easily" solved within an alternative system, whatever it could be.
"Since the system is totally honest, once an individual understands it, they can do whatever the hell they want (*other than develop off-limits technology)." quote
+ People could not do "whatever they want"* ... they/we all should seek for the construction and maintenance of not just a society of Truth, honest communication and widespread knowledge (*with "some" excemptions, specially concerning potentially dangerous technologies that exist or may exist), but a global society that:
- keeps respectful relations among its parts
- succeed to achieve a really sustained equilibria concerning the management of the resources, thus making a fair and knowledgeable distribution/employment of such natural resources in the best interest of humankind and the overall planetary biosphere
- support and encourage creativeness
- and perhaps some other relevant issues...
And which in the longer run:
- succeed to fix the human induced pollution, ecosystem breakage and environmental services loss
- succeed to manage in a rational and really sustainable
the resources at its hands, including energies
- succeed to embrace compassion, comprehension and cooperation and take distance from their opposites, decreasing all forms of violence and specially generalized violence. A global society in equilibria will support peace and exploration.
- succeed to establish rational and wellintended relationships with the likely other intelligences within the galactic neighborhood and join in the exploration of the Cosmos, and the creative/artistic/spiritual and scientific endeavours according to its possibilities.
- succeed in the comprehension of the natural processes that directly affects their lifes and which most certainly compromise the human enterprise within the short term geological timeframes, and with which we should live while on this planet.
And on an even longer timeframe... a quite long geologic one
- succeed to establish/live somewhere else.
But for now... in the extremely short geologic timeframes...
Might we choose some sort of bright future?
Wonders wait ahead, so let´s share and care about the planet we live on. We are not alone, but we are being tested by our own development... and want it or not, the results of such tests could include most of our most proach living fellows.
I think this is a great responsability.
Best hopes for a better world,
A Scientist who Cares
Is this..... irrelevant?
hmmmm..... i really doubt it.
I even have problems imagining a sustainable world without including nature in the equation as the main issue... this will be rather a smaller deviation of the current system... which is not the best and remains so... constrained/compromised. |
| reedbecker
User ID: 545294
11/10/2008 5:54 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Hey OP,
I received an email from BP a couple days ago. This thread is real folks.
Stranger things have happened.
peace - reeder
I'm a little fuzzy on why you needed this e-mail to indicate that this thread was for real. Those other events were highly, highly improbable and should have sufficed. Quoting: OP 547368
Just added weight. I threw that in there to see if the hidden hand would respond personally, if indirectly.
:)
peace - reeder |
| NumScheme
User ID: 471584
11/10/2008 6:18 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
OP...
What you speak of is a difficult task for those who spend very little time in the creative space.
It's like explaining the different between WEconomy and MEconomy. However what you refer to is well in place, and thank you for your hard work.
Also you should be commended for informing others about the work that is being done... We've been waiting for the go-ahead for the next stage.
Manifestation will come much quicker than expected. Start looking for signs in the next few weeks.
In the future they will not have a choice... either comply or cause self-destruction.
The technology you are referring to originated off-world, and was expanded based on the development of the various deception programs.
Also what you are trying to explain is as difficult as telling people about the technology that really rules the roost.
You know what might help, if you can explain why MLB is using only RED/BLUE color combinations these days. Also, 9 innings 3 outs gives it away.
Welcome to the program... if you are interested in playing along, just ask the question in your head. Shortly, after someone will come along and give you a marker/sign/omen/key. This is your first marker in discovering the system this man is talking about... if you get one of these follow it.
Those of you who don't believe will never see, and those who see will play a game like you'd never believe.
We're estimating 9 - 14 days before the effects are undeniably obvious. |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/10/2008 8:58 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
This may be it.
I went thru a prelude of "it" in 2003. It started on a tuesday, got big the next sunday night (big = supernaturally energized). This bigness state lasted into the following monday and tuesday, then wed was like a switch was thrown;like the parachute opened. Some kind of switch happened from that wed night into thursday morning.
If this is it, tomorrow is the last "normal" day. By thursday of next week, everything has changed.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8113
This relates also to the webbots prediction of Friday the 14th +-3 days, which means 11-17 of November time span. This covers the 15th G20 meeting as well.
CRACK!
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
The upcoming SIXTH DAY of the Mayan Calendar (Nov. 13th, 2008 - Nov. 7th, 2009)
Following the Fifth NIGHT large groups of people will in the Sixth DAY break away from hierarchical control and guided by their intuition find a path towards increased wholeness. This is when the hierarchies will really start to break down, probably largely in a chaotic way. Yet, this is exactly the kind of chaos that is needed for the recreation of an Enlightened world. Creativity is born out of chaos and if you think more deeply about it you realize that there is no linear way from today’s world (2004) to the Enlightened (2011). Instead the enlightened world can only emerge out of a series of transformative pulses, including periods of destruction, such as the Fifth NIGHT. The paradox to understand is that the very process that seems to break down the world economy and political dominance is also the one that paves the way for Enlightenment. The emergence of a fully enlightened collective state of consciousness can only thrive in a global consciousness that is balanced. This is because the imbalance that has been dominating humanity for some 5000 years has had its direct cause the dualist frame of consciousness that was ruling throughout this time. |
| WL1
User ID: 546409
11/10/2008 9:02 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
OP...
What you speak of is a difficult task for those who spend very little time in the creative space.
It's like explaining the different between WEconomy and MEconomy. However what you refer to is well in place, and thank you for your hard work.
Also you should be commended for informing others about the work that is being done... We've been waiting for the go-ahead for the next stage.
Manifestation will come much quicker than expected. Start looking for signs in the next few weeks.
In the future they will not have a choice... either comply or cause self-destruction.
The technology you are referring to originated off-world, and was expanded based on the development of the various deception programs.
Also what you are trying to explain is as difficult as telling people about the technology that really rules the roost.
You know what might help, if you can explain why MLB is using only RED/BLUE color combinations these days. Also, 9 innings 3 outs gives it away.
Welcome to the program... if you are interested in playing along, just ask the question in your head. Shortly, after someone will come along and give you a marker/sign/omen/key. This is your first marker in discovering the system this man is talking about... if you get one of these follow it.
Those of you who don't believe will never see, and those who see will play a game like you'd never believe.
We're estimating 9 - 14 days before the effects are undeniably obvious. Quoting: NumScheme 471584
You mention program.
You mention playing along.
You mention playing a game 'like you'd never believe.'
Never believe eh?
Your words sound very similar to others on this site that like to talk about mystery games and playing along.
Your dragon story -elsewhere -does not add credence to this story or was that role play?
Are you claiming to be other than human, or have personal knowledge of other dimensions or contact with those therein.
Do you work within an organization involving online disinformation?
At this precise moment in time I would say WE are trying to get OUT of PROGRAMS and GAMES dreamt up by others, NOT get involved in them without CONSCIOUS CONSENT.
That has occurred before...remember.
I do not trust those that talk in riddles and talk from the position of the manipulator or hold out magick candy to children from verbally adopted positions of superiority and knowledge that relies on faith and belief.
Faith and belief are double edged swords. |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/10/2008 9:13 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Here is a snip of a post by Solve et Coagula
User ID: 498188
9/6/2008 6:10 PM
...The TRUTH brought forward by the consciousness of the 3rd "Day" of the Galactic cycle is rising in intensity just like the sun rises every morning to high noon.
High Noon of this 3rd "Day" is June 12th 2003 (note*This is not the hottest part of the day.)...
This is what the poster I quoted above was speaking about I think.
I have no opinion about the Mayan Calendar, myself, at this point. |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/10/2008 9:20 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
This may be it.
I went thru a prelude of "it" in 2003. It started on a tuesday, got big the next sunday night (big = supernaturally energized). This bigness state lasted into the following monday and tuesday, then wed was like a switch was thrown;like the parachute opened. Some kind of switch happened from that wed night into thursday morning.
If this is it, tomorrow is the last "normal" day. By thursday of next week, everything has changed....
That works for me. I'll have to get someone to get the things for me, however. But I have a trusted person that can do that. I'll report the details to the place.
Other people, don't try to figure this out. Frankly, it's probably nothing. I'm just proceeding with the possibility that the person who posted above actually knows what he's talking about and it's related to something. Quoting: OP 546815
Oh, and OP shove your superiority complex up your ass. |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/10/2008 9:40 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Yeah AC8113 posted the same post on The Super Moon Is Coming thread on 11/8
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
And again on The Picture of Obama Made me Feel... thread on 11/8
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
So this person is referring to the Mayan Calender 6Th Day; very excited about it I guess.
well we will see soon enough...
You are a dick OP...didn't think any one could figure it out?
PPPfffttt. |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/10/2008 9:42 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
So much for openness and honesty, eh OP????
No one but you should figure things out? YOU are in charge, eh? |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/10/2008 9:45 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
WL1 posted
...At this precise moment in time I would say WE are trying to get OUT of PROGRAMS and GAMES dreamt up by others, NOT get involved in them without CONSCIOUS CONSENT.
That has occurred before...remember.
I do not trust those that talk in riddles and talk from the position of the manipulator or hold out magick candy to children from verbally adopted positions of superiority and knowledge that relies on faith and belief.
Faith and belief are double edged swords.
**********
Good call!!!
 |
| WL1
User ID: 546409
11/10/2008 10:16 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
WL1 Posted:
This is far more important than watching what the mighty Obama does next - as per your post above.
**********
Hmmmm...story posted above? Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783
Just noticed what you may have meant Annie O. I started thinking.....wait do you mean Christopher Story...and which story above....
If you refer to my 'as per your post above' then it made no sense did it. Sorry. I think I was referring to an earlier post maybe a page back that said something about..while we are watching the Obama drama......something like that.
ObamaDrama.
My new buzz word.
As others have noted isn’t it convenient how the spell check always suggests changing Obama to Osama.
Hmmmmmm.
You couldn’t write this stuff in a script and still look credible or talented or sane. |
| WL1
User ID: 546409
11/10/2008 10:16 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
WL1 Posted:
This is far more important than watching what the mighty Obama does next - as per your post above.
**********
Hmmmm...story posted above? Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783
Just noticed what you may have meant Annie O. I started thinking.....wait do you mean Christopher Story...and which story above....
If you refer to my 'as per your post above' then it made no sense did it. Sorry. I think I was referring to an earlier post maybe a page back that said something about..while we are watching the Obama drama......something like that.
ObamaDrama.
My new buzz word.
As others have noted isn’t it convenient how the spell check always suggests changing Obama to Osama.
Hmmmmmm.
You couldn’t write this stuff in a script and still look credible or talented or sane. |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/10/2008 10:23 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
More about the energies~ There is reference to the Mayan Calender ...it is a good piece to encourage at this time.
It is long so I will just post a portion:
[link to thepowerpath.com]
The main themes for November are Breakdown and Breakthrough. You will surely experience both at different times as well as different sides of them throughout the month. This month provides for an incredible portal to the next level of conscious awakening and functioning. The false personality and everything related to the false personality is absolutely terrified as it is forced to leave behind its comfort level of limitations and survival tactics. Since change is inevitable, and Breakdown will happen whether you wish it to or not, the old patterns of behavior and survival that you have relied upon to make sense of your physical reality will no longer be effective. No matter what kind of glue you think you have to hold your external life together, it will not be strong enough to withstand the forces that are now dissolving the old structures. Therefore, the focus should be on strengthening the inner life so that you can bend and not break.
This is not a time to strategize and try and second-guess what is coming but rather a time to become more comfortable with not knowing what the future holds. As we have said before, the mind is limited in what it can imagine. It bases its predictions of the future on past events. The foundational pattern that has provided security on the physical plane is rapidly dissolving, leaving a pool of chaos, confusion, freedom, hope and potential. In the midst of this you may feel at loose ends, adrift in a boat without a rudder. With that said, it is still very important to keep moving ahead, to stay focused, alert and aware, and not to fall into lethargy or apathy.
.......more.... |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/10/2008 10:40 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
WL1 Posted:
This is far more important than watching what the mighty Obama does next - as per your post above.
**********
Hmmmm...story posted above?
Just noticed what you may have meant Annie O. I started thinking.....wait do you mean Christopher Story...and which story above....
If you refer to my 'as per your post above' then it made no sense did it. Sorry. I think I was referring to an earlier post maybe a page back that said something about..while we are watching the Obama drama......something like that.
ObamaDrama.
My new buzz word.
As others have noted isn’t it convenient how the spell check always suggests changing Obama to Osama.
Hmmmmmm.
You couldn’t write this stuff in a script and still look credible or talented or sane. Quoting: WL1 546409
Hmmm...I was referring to the change we have been/will be feeling; that maybe the ObamaDrama(lol) would be resolved in an honest way and change things for us all. I knew I should have made that clearer...got lazy...sorry ;>
But as I figured out what AC8113 was talking about~ the Mayan Calender 5th Day~ and then reading more items as I have posted, plus my own feelings...I have to say that something is really coming at us, so hang on.
Regardless of where else this thread goes...there is a shift upon us... |
| Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/10/2008 10:41 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Mayan Calender 6th Day ~ not 5th day. |
| S. who C.
User ID: 548246
11/10/2008 11:23 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Op and everyone there,
According to the USGS the quake you refer (Op), did happened in a relatively low seismic hazard area, with the conditions you had told before. Therebye i shall apologyze for my insistence on the irrelevance of this quake in relation to the thread and would accept that there is indeed some possibility on what you claimed. I couldn´t calculate (relevant) probabilities with that and neither could you as we hadn´t comprehensive data on the region... nevertheless this is really unexpected, as the USGS reports no precedents but to the north of this area. Well, this is surely not comprehensive, but it´s somewhat impressive.
Earthquakes are mostly natural nevertheless, so when i said that it´s not a good idea to mess with such things i really meant it...
actually, regarding the point 3 of our previous interchange... you can add...
that it could reveal extremely dangerous to play with this forces, and i think that there are at least some intelligences, (perhaps reading this?) that knew quite well what could be in danger... what science has been discovering... what comes out when you connect the dots...
Please don´t ask about that, I´m sorry, but i think it´s not a good idea to share this... it´s one of those issues (one of the main ones? perhaps?) in which total honesty will do more harm than good. Many people hadn´t got a comprehensive perception towards our true place on the planet and the outstanding relevance of the overall biosphere, how magnificent all is!... much less would found easy/affordable to understand things that might create panic, of which we still ignore quite a lot and remains highly speculative. We need to learn much more in a social level and advance into a very different paradigm set.
And, if you allow me to insist, this paradigm is mostly about life and what we do in relation to it.
Life, love, compassion, knowledge, informed actions, real sustainability on overall resource employment (not the present limited and even misused concept), social and environmental responsability/integration and justice, clarity and honesty indeed, but none alone.
Technology could help a lot, it makes every challenge larger and bring us potential solutions... it may also outstandingly increase the dangers, yes... but the main changes are not about technology, but rather about ourselves as collectiveness and as individuals. It´s our perspective and future ways which may determine to a high extent if we choose to thrive or fail, if we would learn to share life successfully and preserve it... or undermine our own potential futures. Perhaps we will not be allowed to do certain things, hopefully and probably, as i´m pretty sure that we are being observed... but we don´t know, and up to this moment there had not been evidences of open intervention in any major issue.
We are being tested by our own development and should cope with the great challenges in order to improve ourselves.
Care about LIFE ; )
Sincerely,
S. who C.
quote from OP:
Aren’t you as impressed as I am regarding the timing, 12:01 AM, October 31 of that quake? It really was to maintain the credibility of this thread since I was wrong about that October 30 event that did not happen. On the first minute after October 30 they provided something to keep this thread healthy.
I’m just so damn impressed with that. It’s making me smile right now. |
| S. who C.
User ID: 548260
11/10/2008 11:48 PM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Isn´t it unlikely that there are people on the knowledge of what can be deducted... having so a diverse background to take from and with some hints? (undoubtly) People who are taking the most appropiate measures following hard proofs and thourough information... and that most geologist are just at the edge (or far from it) of understanding the larger picture? The overall geology of the planet and its relations with the major cycles! We knew so little.
However, if it is not the case and you happen to be reading this, and if strong/important decisions are really in your hands... please don´t play god with what you/we don´t thoroughly understand and don´t think that you/we are in charge of everything. May we manage to success and get a much brighter future... perhaps we could become keepers of the marvels of life, instead of being its condemned predators.
Best wishes for all beings and for a functional/sane order,
A Scientist who Cares |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 546592
11/11/2008 3:36 AM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
I have caused the elite to contact me directly, that's a reasonable accomplishment, but not one I can share with too many people, unfortunately; at least not yet. The whole story may be told in a movie some day. Quoting: OP 546815
I'll be lookin' out for it, Cheers...
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 548374
11/11/2008 3:56 AM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
Commence shift. 728112:55 |
| NumScheme
User ID: 548517
11/11/2008 9:06 AM | | Re: The actual New World Order that is here | Quote |
You mention program.
- the information we have been attempting to get out is the reveal of a new thought grid. a new way for you, a person, to collect and gather truthfull/honest information to make decisions for yourself.
You mention playing along.
- life is a game, and in the new grid observing it as such makes everything so much easier to learn.
You mention playing a game 'like you'd never believe.'
- see post above. you are on one thought grid right now, and there is another more honest and positive thought grid waiting for you.
Never believe eh?
- probably not, cause you'd have to believe that there is an ancient thought grid working now that keeps you in the thoughts and patterns that consume your everyday life.
Are you claiming to be other than human, or have personal knowledge of other dimensions or contact with those therein.
- no i'm not claiming to be more than human, i was born on this planet. however, i have had contact with several entities/beings from different dimensions/planets.
Do you work within an organization involving online disinformation?
- no. i work with a select group of creative people that believe in truth and cause/effect, and are working very hard at creative a system of information and knowledge
I do not trust those that talk in riddles and talk from the position of the manipulator or hold out magick candy to children from verbally adopted positions of superiority and knowledge that relies on faith and belief.
- If you do not trust those types, then why do you vote? Why do you watch television? Why do you goto church? Why do you pay taxes?
the word magick is incorrect. it would be magik. c is the illusionary aspect of the word. ck is using illusion to make it look real. k is the only proper ending to magik. no deception, no mixed words.
Faith and belief are double edged swords.
- yes they are... that is why imagination, creativity, technology should replace them. those are considered false words as there is no scientific verifiable proof as to their existence or purpose. However with imagination and creativity anything is possible. You can even create your own GOD/reality if that is what you choose.
We know that most aren't conscious enough to imagine the possibilities of a thought grid. That is why there are a few grid users in the world now preparing to show you it's possibilities.
If in the next year you'll see people coming out in the world who'll be super-creative. These are the operators.
There are no secret oaths, no hand-shakes, only your participation in your own life.
At this point it is very difficult to convince the world of your positive intentions. That is why we have been using this board for so long. It aids in testing the ideas and philosophies.
GoodDay |
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