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Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/11/2008 9:57 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Never believe eh?
- probably not, cause you'd have to believe that there is an ancient thought grid working now that keeps you in the thoughts and patterns that consume your everyday life.


I know all about the grid, the net, the veil.
I have been spending considerable amount of time over years breaking free. In fact it is the focus of my life.

I am tired of games that I cannot see.

I don't watch TV.
I don't have a religion.
If I vote at all, it is third parties just to make a statement and it is my choice to "play"; I am not compelled to vote.
I don't shop at the malls or involve myself in the frivolities of that mind set.

I want the grid to COME DOWN.

A Grid is another name for a web. WWW. World Wide Web.
Like a trap. A Spider's web where the "spider" knows every move made on the web.

So you want to create another web based on "Magik".

I want to be able to create w/o any constraints at all. And
ONCE THE Electronic/Microwave WEB IS TURNED OFF~ we will return to our natural abilities to create at will.

No need for any sort of web or grid. Magik is to seduce and control.

There is no need to do thid. We are creators naturally.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/11/2008 10:10 AM
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Yes I do know about magic/ck/k.

I was almost seduced into it several times in this life, but I REMEMBERED, yes I remembered another time, what it is like and how egotistical it is and the PRICE one has to pay. Yes the price is heavy.
I did that before. You say~ 'I will maintain my integrity at all costs.' But something happens and you start to fall; you don't even see it happening until it is too late. All the things you are able to do make you go further and further away from your core, your heart.
And then there is payment.

So this time around, I said no. And I have fought against those who would try to seduce me to it.
Because I remember, and they did not count on that. They thought the memory would seduce me again. But I grieved instead. And healed as much as possible. I wear the wound to remind me...always.
And I have those around me to protect me, and remind me.

It doesn't take me too long any more to uncover the falsity...and sometimes I am pulled back by others. Thanks again.

But you I see right away.
Take your poison and shove it.
OP
User ID: 547368
11/11/2008 10:16 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Unfortunately, the Obama drama is enough for the ethnocentric elite to dazzle and confuse people globally to not implement an honest world order at this time.

That is my honest impression.

The events they did for this thread are real, so for some reason they have chosen to do this thing on this thread, but it's becoming more clear to me as the days go on that they are not pursuing honesty at this time.

Understand, as long as they can string along the brainwashed population in the Western world, AND keep the Orientals, Russians and other reasonably enlightened people sufficiently satisfied to just "let things go along," then the ethnocentric elite will not pursue an HWO.

Of course, this will give them the time they need to ultimately prepare, crush and brainwash the other more enlightened countries/people throughout the world towards a total global matrix.

That's my opinion on the matter at this time. I'll look at this thread from time to time, but in general it's dormant until something changes.

Obama was, in fact, everything proceeding along as planned, unfortunately. People will follow the drama as each new headline news story comes out, and it is just one big Hollywood production brought to you by the elite. They just want you to be stupid brainwashed imbeciles and have no intention of enlightening you with the technology paradigm and HWO.

But, you can still try to do so whenever you speak with people. Just do it carefully and keep it simple. Tell people the truth.
OP
User ID: 547368
11/11/2008 10:19 AM
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Op and everyone there,

According to the USGS the quake you refer (Op), did happened in a relatively low seismic hazard area, with the conditions you had told before. Therebye i shall apologyze for my insistence on the irrelevance of this quake in relation to the thread and would accept that there is indeed some possibility on what you claimed. I couldn´t calculate (relevant) probabilities with that and neither could you as we hadn´t comprehensive data on the region... nevertheless this is really unexpected, as the USGS reports no precedents but to the north of this area. Well, this is surely not comprehensive, but it´s somewhat impressive.

Earthquakes are mostly natural nevertheless, so when i said that it´s not a good idea to mess with such things i really meant it...

actually, regarding the point 3 of our previous interchange... you can add...

that it could reveal extremely dangerous to play with this forces, and i think that there are at least some intelligences, (perhaps reading this?) that knew quite well what could be in danger... what science has been discovering... what comes out when you connect the dots...

Please don´t ask about that, I´m sorry, but i think it´s not a good idea to share this... it´s one of those issues (one of the main ones? perhaps?) in which total honesty will do more harm than good. Many people hadn´t got a comprehensive perception towards our true place on the planet and the outstanding relevance of the overall biosphere, how magnificent all is!... much less would found easy/affordable to understand things that might create panic, of which we still ignore quite a lot and remains highly speculative. We need to learn much more in a social level and advance into a very different paradigm set.

And, if you allow me to insist, this paradigm is mostly about life and what we do in relation to it.

Life, love, compassion, knowledge, informed actions, real sustainability on overall resource employment (not the present limited and even misused concept), social and environmental responsability/integration and justice, clarity and honesty indeed, but none alone.

Technology could help a lot, it makes every challenge larger and bring us potential solutions... it may also outstandingly increase the dangers, yes... but the main changes are not about technology, but rather about ourselves as collectiveness and as individuals. It´s our perspective and future ways which may determine to a high extent if we choose to thrive or fail, if we would learn to share life successfully and preserve it... or undermine our own potential futures. Perhaps we will not be allowed to do certain things, hopefully and probably, as i´m pretty sure that we are being observed... but we don´t know, and up to this moment there had not been evidences of open intervention in any major issue.

We are being tested by our own development and should cope with the great challenges in order to improve ourselves.

Care about LIFE ; )

Sincerely,

S. who C.
hiding hf

quote from OP:
Aren’t you as impressed as I am regarding the timing, 12:01 AM, October 31 of that quake? It really was to maintain the credibility of this thread since I was wrong about that October 30 event that did not happen. On the first minute after October 30 they provided something to keep this thread healthy.

I’m just so damn impressed with that. It’s making me smile right now.
 Quoting: S. who C. 548246


Cool

Thanks
OP
User ID: 547368
11/11/2008 10:22 AM
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This may be it.

I went thru a prelude of "it" in 2003. It started on a tuesday, got big the next sunday night (big = supernaturally energized). This bigness state lasted into the following monday and tuesday, then wed was like a switch was thrown;like the parachute opened. Some kind of switch happened from that wed night into thursday morning.

If this is it, tomorrow is the last "normal" day. By thursday of next week, everything has changed....


That works for me. I'll have to get someone to get the things for me, however. But I have a trusted person that can do that. I'll report the details to the place.

Other people, don't try to figure this out. Frankly, it's probably nothing. I'm just proceeding with the possibility that the person who posted above actually knows what he's talking about and it's related to something.


Oh, and OP shove your superiority complex up your ass.
 Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783


I don't think this is what you think it is...that's all. I honestly think it's nothing.

It's easy to get diverted down wrong paths. That's why I like to qualify things and warn people not to spend too much time, wasting time, thinking about things that are "probably nothing."

But time will tell.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/11/2008 10:26 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Unfortunately, the Obama drama is enough for the ethnocentric elite to dazzle and confuse people globally to not implement an honest world order at this time.

That is my honest impression.

The events they did for this thread are real, so for some reason they have chosen to do this thing on this thread, but it's becoming more clear to me as the days go on that they are not pursuing honesty at this time.

Understand, as long as they can string along the brainwashed population in the Western world, AND keep the Orientals, Russians and other reasonably enlightened people sufficiently satisfied to just "let things go along," then the ethnocentric elite will not pursue an HWO.

Of course, this will give them the time they need to ultimately prepare, crush and brainwash the other more enlightened countries/people throughout the world towards a total global matrix.

That's my opinion on the matter at this time. I'll look at this thread from time to time, but in general it's dormant until something changes.

Obama was, in fact, everything proceeding along as planned, unfortunately. People will follow the drama as each new headline news story comes out, and it is just one big Hollywood production brought to you by the elite. They just want you to be stupid brainwashed imbeciles and have no intention of enlightening you with the technology paradigm and HWO.

But, you can still try to do so whenever you speak with people. Just do it carefully and keep it simple. Tell people the truth.
 Quoting: OP 547368


Yeah that is what I see too, OP.

I will check in as well, so if anything comes up, let us know.

Ben Fulford will interview with Rense on 11/19.
I will post the interview here, and it usually gets its own thread as well.

Nice to meet everyone.

So long for now...
hf
OP
User ID: 547368
11/11/2008 10:28 AM
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There seems to be honesty at least in the first two pages of this thread, but honesty is not the only concern, not the only need for an alternative paradigm structure for a technological civilization. It´s an important part, nevertheless, although it may not be workable at the extreme. Radical positions and absolutes should be avoided and a rational buildup with many tones/colors should better be implemented, as best as possible.

Make the best we can with the best we have.




Also, another question. What would be on the agenda, right as soon the laws are passed, and our planet will become 1 prison, isntead of 200+ prisons. Like , what would be the goal of humanity ? To get in the outter space, and try to conquer the whole universe ? Is that the technological delema here ? The so- called elite doesnt know what people of the planet want ? and they sent some fool to some troll board to find out the menu for the new world order ?

If some elite official is really reading this, i would like to say : Stop the mass slaghtering of the humanity, give tesla technology to people, and give all the land to people. So that us people can do whatever we want.



You're response is actually quite healthy. This is delving into the psychology of the frustration of the old world order.

In fact, the frustration that the old world order creates within people is the fundamental flaw of that system. That's why doomsday is more probable with that system.

You need to be happy and relieved that the old world order is about to be extinct and part of the "ancient bad times" of human history. The honest world order changes everything. It changes how you feel and think about everything. What we do just depends upon what we decide to do.

We need not all do exactly the same damn thing. Obviously, who gets to develop the dangerous technology is highly controlled, that is all. If you rise to that level, you can probably work on that technology. It’s just very, very damn controlled.



+ Interesting, but not thorougfull... and, surely, quite illustrative of the problems that persist in the present malfunctioning and unsustainable global system... and could not necessarily be so "easily" solved within an alternative system, whatever it could be.

"Since the system is totally honest, once an individual understands it, they can do whatever the hell they want (*other than develop off-limits technology)." quote

+ People could not do "whatever they want"* ... they/we all should seek for the construction and maintenance of not just a society of Truth, honest communication and widespread knowledge (*with "some" excemptions, specially concerning potentially dangerous technologies that exist or may exist), but a global society that:

- keeps respectful relations among its parts
- succeed to achieve a really sustained equilibria concerning the management of the resources, thus making a fair and knowledgeable distribution/employment of such natural resources in the best interest of humankind and the overall planetary biosphere
- support and encourage creativeness
- and perhaps some other relevant issues...

And which in the longer run:

- succeed to fix the human induced pollution, ecosystem breakage and environmental services loss
- succeed to manage in a rational and really sustainable
the resources at its hands, including energies
- succeed to embrace compassion, comprehension and cooperation and take distance from their opposites, decreasing all forms of violence and specially generalized violence. A global society in equilibria will support peace and exploration.
- succeed to establish rational and wellintended relationships with the likely other intelligences within the galactic neighborhood and join in the exploration of the Cosmos, and the creative/artistic/spiritual and scientific endeavours according to its possibilities.
- succeed in the comprehension of the natural processes that directly affects their lifes and which most certainly compromise the human enterprise within the short term geological timeframes, and with which we should live while on this planet.

And on an even longer timeframe... a quite long geologic one

- succeed to establish/live somewhere else.

But for now... in the extremely short geologic timeframes...
Might we choose some sort of bright future?
Wonders wait ahead, so let´s share and care about the planet we live on. We are not alone, but we are being tested by our own development... and want it or not, the results of such tests could include most of our most proach living fellows.

I think this is a great responsability.

Best hopes for a better world,
A Scientist who Cares

bump
hf




Is this..... irrelevant?


hmmmm..... i really doubt it.
I even have problems imagining a sustainable world without including nature in the equation as the main issue... this will be rather a smaller deviation of the current system... which is not the best and remains so... constrained/compromised.
 Quoting: S. who C. 547891


It was irrelevant to me and the track I was following on this thread, that's all. It's all good stuff in a world of honesty, sure.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/11/2008 10:29 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

This may be it.

I went thru a prelude of "it" in 2003. It started on a tuesday, got big the next sunday night (big = supernaturally energized). This bigness state lasted into the following monday and tuesday, then wed was like a switch was thrown;like the parachute opened. Some kind of switch happened from that wed night into thursday morning.

If this is it, tomorrow is the last "normal" day. By thursday of next week, everything has changed....


That works for me. I'll have to get someone to get the things for me, however. But I have a trusted person that can do that. I'll report the details to the place.

Other people, don't try to figure this out. Frankly, it's probably nothing. I'm just proceeding with the possibility that the person who posted above actually knows what he's talking about and it's related to something.


Oh, and OP shove your superiority complex up your ass.


I don't think this is what you think it is...that's all. I honestly think it's nothing.

It's easy to get diverted down wrong paths. That's why I like to qualify things and warn people not to spend too much time, wasting time, thinking about things that are "probably nothing."

But time will tell.
 Quoting: OP 547368


No doubt it will be nothing to change the world...but that is what the AC8113 was posting about...it was each of the Mayan Calendar threads.
S. who C.
User ID: 548592
11/11/2008 12:11 PM
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Isn´t it unlikely that there are people on the knowledge?
quote from myself...

Sarcastic, sorry... Isn´t it likely? I hope so!!!

You are welcome op,
good luck on potential constructive pathways ; )
S. who C.
User ID: 548592
11/11/2008 12:18 PM
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Opportunities come and are easier to catch when there is preparation... but stocastic processes mess with everything, specially the natural history of the world.

We should try to leave nothing (or the less possible) out of comprehension, although we may never gain a total comprehension ; ) Reductionism is quite a shortview!
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/11/2008 12:30 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

yes, S who C~ leave no stone unturned.

Best to you and all here.
WL1
User ID: 546409
11/11/2008 12:37 PM
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You mention program.
- the information we have been attempting to get out is the reveal of a new thought grid. a new way for you, a person, to collect and gather truthfull/honest information to make decisions for yourself.

You mention playing along.
- life is a game, and in the new grid observing it as such makes everything so much easier to learn.

You mention playing a game 'like you'd never believe.'
- see post above. you are on one thought grid right now, and there is another more honest and positive thought grid waiting for you.

Never believe eh?
- probably not, cause you'd have to believe that there is an ancient thought grid working now that keeps you in the thoughts and patterns that consume your everyday life.

Are you claiming to be other than human, or have personal knowledge of other dimensions or contact with those therein.
- no i'm not claiming to be more than human, i was born on this planet. however, i have had contact with several entities/beings from different dimensions/planets.

Do you work within an organization involving online disinformation?
- no. i work with a select group of creative people that believe in truth and cause/effect, and are working very hard at creative a system of information and knowledge

I do not trust those that talk in riddles and talk from the position of the manipulator or hold out magick candy to children from verbally adopted positions of superiority and knowledge that relies on faith and belief.
- If you do not trust those types, then why do you vote? Why do you watch television? Why do you goto church? Why do you pay taxes?

the word magick is incorrect. it would be magik. c is the illusionary aspect of the word. ck is using illusion to make it look real. k is the only proper ending to magik. no deception, no mixed words.

Faith and belief are double edged swords.
- yes they are... that is why imagination, creativity, technology should replace them. those are considered false words as there is no scientific verifiable proof as to their existence or purpose. However with imagination and creativity anything is possible. You can even create your own GOD/reality if that is what you choose.


We know that most aren't conscious enough to imagine the possibilities of a thought grid. That is why there are a few grid users in the world now preparing to show you it's possibilities.

If in the next year you'll see people coming out in the world who'll be super-creative. These are the operators.

There are no secret oaths, no hand-shakes, only your participation in your own life.

At this point it is very difficult to convince the world of your positive intentions. That is why we have been using this board for so long. It aids in testing the ideas and philosophies.

GoodDay
 Quoting: NumScheme 548517

You presume much with your fishing rod fully extended and hooks within your answers. I see you.
You presume far too much about others that you do not know and you presume that you have the right or even the ability to offer others a new path. Another one (or group -we) trying to play god and create a virtual world to confuse and trap.

Allow me to correct your words :
‘you are on one thought grid right now’
YOU might be on one thought grid right now.
Don’t presume you know others.

Don't presume you know people from the trivial words on this site. Masks work both ways you know.

You said:
That is why we have been using this board for so long. It aids in testing the ideas and philosophies.
Yes. WE know.

Re. magick - once again from your position of self assumed authority on all matters of esoterica -
Take a look at many sources of esoteric and occult knowledge and they use the word magick as do I. Are you more right than the others o illuminated one.

This one made me laugh -'There are no secret oaths, no hand-shakes, only your participation in your own life.'
Thanks. I needed your help to participate in my own life as do others. When do I get the green light o wise benevolent one.

Re Belief and Faith:
- yes they are... that is why imagination, creativity, technology should replace them. those are considered false words as there is no scientific verifiable proof as to their existence or purpose. However with imagination and creativity anything is possible. You can even create your own GOD/reality if that is what you choose.

So you would have technology as the new religion, the new god.
FAIL.
I don't follow religion as you label it - just so you know for your future studies. Technology cannot replace spirituality as much as you would like it to.
(Spirituality being a term most likely foreign to you).

You can keep your technological world for yourself I don't need it thanks. Technology is mostly worthless and very destructive in the long run just like this site and others like it.
A simple analogy – audiophile grade vinyl albums (remember them?), then ‘tech. progress’ - CD’s that discard information in order to fit in a pre-set format (but are nice and shiny and convenient for the masses), then mp3’s that discard even more information as they compress every bit of goodness into a worthless and downgraded format that is a ‘technological advance’ for the masses –including subliminal, hidden codes and disruptive patterns – the real reason for digital advances (and zombie youth).
The codes within the codes – the waves and the carrier waves and the hidden content. Fast food gadgets with mind bending poisons added for the masses. Very easy to hide other harmful things within smart technology isn’t it?

Quantity over quality. Worthless toys. Technology is to spiritual advancement what digital was/is to music. Convenience and control for the elite few.

Apply all of the above to your new thought grid and what have you got.
Doesn’t look good does it?

Sounds a lot like the mind bending information super-net grid network that the CERN puppets are working on –for our ‘convenience’ no doubt.

The net wasn't designed by accident - the www and the larger bars on the prison.
They are all coming down soon whether you like it or not.
WL1
User ID: 546409
11/11/2008 1:19 PM
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Hi Annie O,

I see your gun is still smoking.
Thanks for all your contributions I will always read what you have to say. This thread is going in the direction I though it would from the start - a basic premise with a huge escape clause(same ol' fishing trip). Early on -'they haven't yet decided to implement an honest w. o.' and 'they might decide not to do this.....' or 'they might still decide to kill off millions/billions'.....blah blah...all centered around a small faked demonstration to draw out some more fish. No meat on this skeleton but it attracted some interesting prey.

Yes I am cynical------about anything world order related.

Very few to trust on this web. Such are webs. They are not to provide freedom are they, they are designed at the very start to trap and devour. (As you already well articulated in your post). Some of us can skip lightly over the top and stay relatively free but ultimately it is best to steer clear (in my humble opinion).

Anyway it has been fun.....or has it. I might post some more if I see a point.

We need to start cutting the threads of the web from the outside - the structural supports of the center - if we are to progress further.

All the best to you. See you around and also at the big party when we will all meet up at the end of 'this'.

Much Love
WL1
WL1
User ID: 546409
11/11/2008 1:19 PM
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Hi Annie O,

I see your gun is still smoking.
Thanks for all your contributions I will always read what you have to say. This thread is going in the direction I though it would from the start - a basic premise with a huge escape clause(same ol' fishing trip). Early on -'they haven't yet decided to implement an honest w. o.' and 'they might decide not to do this.....' or 'they might still decide to kill off millions/billions'.....blah blah...all centered around a small faked demonstration to draw out some more fish. No meat on this skeleton but it attracted some interesting prey.

Yes I am cynical------about anything world order related.

Very few to trust on this web. Such are webs. They are not to provide freedom are they, they are designed at the very start to trap and devour. (As you already well articulated in your post). Some of us can skip lightly over the top and stay relatively free but ultimately it is best to steer clear (in my humble opinion).

Anyway it has been fun.....or has it. I might post some more if I see a point.

We need to start cutting the threads of the web from the outside - the structural supports of the center - if we are to progress further.

All the best to you. See you around and also at the big party when we will all meet up at the end of 'this'.

Much Love
WL1
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/11/2008 1:22 PM
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Much Love to you as well WL1.

We will certainly meet again!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 544389
11/11/2008 1:26 PM
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Hmmmmm

Ok, it's like this:

I am a contributor to the new global order that is going to be implemented shortly.

How did I get this job?

Well, I just kind of fell into it. After 911, I began to write a bunch of shit that was incredibly creative and original. It was seen by various elites and they kept an eye on me. The recent events that Ben Fulford has spoken of are essentially fact. I played a role in preventing the �big event� that could have led to the killing of billions of people; but decisions of that magnitude are a very complex matter and my contribution was but a small percentage � perhaps smaller than I�d like to think, but whatever.

During the past few months, they have directly communicated with me; even to the degree of giving me a secret technology display � that was enough for me to fully get it (although I �got it� way before that and they were the slow party in the relationship). They have listened to what I have said, and they are still listening. They are watching what I�m putting here right now � yes, actual fact. So what you type here is also relevant to how the new global order proceeds forward. They are watching; this is real. Just accept that things can actually proceed forward by typing things in forums. Communication is what life is all about. Our brains are linked by the words we type/speak to each other, so it matters.

Now to the meat of the old and new order:

1. Ancient ethnocentrism
2. Technology paradigm

Today, the old order uses both items above. Ancient ethnocentrism is how the world has been organized for thousands of years, and its basis is deception of the majority by the extremely small minority. I�m sure that will make sense to just about everyone but the really slow people reading this � and to you I say�just follow along with the others.

The technology paradigm was a more recent development with the discoveries of Tesla and others and deals, simply, with doomsday technology. There are many creative ways to kill every human on planet earth with, essentially, the push of a button. Who in here gets that? If you don�t, you have to. You don�t have a choice. I can�t stress that strongly enough. You either get that, or you WILL be enslaved by the new system. We cannot allow development of dangerous technology, period.

The current system exerts of lot of energy keeping every mind enslaved within the �matrix,� and the movie �Matrix� is an exact analogy to the world that the ethnocentric elite strive to maintain. That system is still being maintained today, and will be for a few more weeks�months, and perhaps longer. It depends upon how quickly a safe transition can occur.

The new system involves total honesty � the matrix is retired. Every person knows that there is off limits technology that is very dangerous. We all reap the fruits of that technology, and we see the many amazing things it can do, but its development only occurs under very, VERY controlled circumstances. Laws are all developed around the technology paradigm. Educational systems are all arranged around the technology paradigm. Since we are talking about doomsday, you can be sure that the penalties for a group striving to develop dangerous technology in secret will be quick and likely quite deadly.

Either they die or we all die � rather simple choice.

But the world of keeping secrets is the world we have today. Today the ethnocentric elite strive to maintain endless lies within the minds of the people. That is the danger of today�s system. It�s not possible to keep everyone brainwashed. The probability of technological doomsday actually is much higher with today�s system compared with the new system that is based on honesty rather than deception.

The ancient ethnocentric monkey�s (I�ll not name them but you know who they are) did not want to give up their ancient control, but it has been usurped very recently as Fulford has mentioned. They have yielded and seen the light, FINALLY. I personally had to explain to them that they were going to be the cause of doomsday if they don�t reject their ancient ethnocentrism and replace it with a new system based around the technology paradigm. There is no room for the ancient nonsense of fulfilling their elite ethnocentric pleasures. That is done. Life will still be just as wonderful and pleasant for them, just different, that is all.

The old system involved homogenizing humanity into �one.� That is not necessary in the new system. You�ve been highly brainwashed on this topic and I�m going to type something now that deprograms you very simply. All DNA branches like a tree. We can bind the branches of the tree with a rope, with propaganda, and force all human diversity into "one," thus destroying diversity. Or we can allow DNA to be free, to branch and diversify with nature. The new system is all about honesty and freedom, thus Japan can remain Japanese etc� same throughout the world.

That�s about it guys. Any questions?
 Quoting: Agent 507772



FAIL!!!
WL1
User ID: 546409
11/11/2008 1:28 PM
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Sorry for the double post -double trouble - seeing double with the red lens and the blue lens -3d aha.

Correction to above 1st paragraph - though(t) with a (t) as in think-tank.

Bye.
WL1
User ID: 546409
11/11/2008 1:28 PM
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Sorry for the double post -double trouble - seeing double with the red lens and the blue lens -3d aha.

Correction to above 1st paragraph - though(t) with a (t) as in think-tank.

Bye.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/11/2008 2:34 PM
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Hmmmmm

Ok, it's like this:

I am a contributor to the new global order that is going to be implemented shortly.

How did I get this job?

Well, I just kind of fell into it. After 911, I began to write a bunch of shit that was incredibly creative and original. It was seen by various elites and they kept an eye on me. The recent events that Ben Fulford has spoken of are essentially fact. I played a role in preventing the �big event� that could have led to the killing of billions of people; but decisions of that magnitude are a very complex matter and my contribution was but a small percentage � perhaps smaller than I�d like to think, but whatever.

During the past few months, they have directly communicated with me; even to the degree of giving me a secret technology display � that was enough for me to fully get it (although I �got it� way before that and they were the slow party in the relationship). They have listened to what I have said, and they are still listening. They are watching what I�m putting here right now � yes, actual fact. So what you type here is also relevant to how the new global order proceeds forward. They are watching; this is real. Just accept that things can actually proceed forward by typing things in forums. Communication is what life is all about. Our brains are linked by the words we type/speak to each other, so it matters.

Now to the meat of the old and new order:

1. Ancient ethnocentrism
2. Technology paradigm

Today, the old order uses both items above. Ancient ethnocentrism is how the world has been organized for thousands of years, and its basis is deception of the majority by the extremely small minority. I�m sure that will make sense to just about everyone but the really slow people reading this � and to you I say�just follow along with the others.

The technology paradigm was a more recent development with the discoveries of Tesla and others and deals, simply, with doomsday technology. There are many creative ways to kill every human on planet earth with, essentially, the push of a button. Who in here gets that? If you don�t, you have to. You don�t have a choice. I can�t stress that strongly enough. You either get that, or you WILL be enslaved by the new system. We cannot allow development of dangerous technology, period.

The current system exerts of lot of energy keeping every mind enslaved within the �matrix,� and the movie �Matrix� is an exact analogy to the world that the ethnocentric elite strive to maintain. That system is still being maintained today, and will be for a few more weeks�months, and perhaps longer. It depends upon how quickly a safe transition can occur.

The new system involves total honesty � the matrix is retired. Every person knows that there is off limits technology that is very dangerous. We all reap the fruits of that technology, and we see the many amazing things it can do, but its development only occurs under very, VERY controlled circumstances. Laws are all developed around the technology paradigm. Educational systems are all arranged around the technology paradigm. Since we are talking about doomsday, you can be sure that the penalties for a group striving to develop dangerous technology in secret will be quick and likely quite deadly.

Either they die or we all die � rather simple choice.

But the world of keeping secrets is the world we have today. Today the ethnocentric elite strive to maintain endless lies within the minds of the people. That is the danger of today�s system. It�s not possible to keep everyone brainwashed. The probability of technological doomsday actually is much higher with today�s system compared with the new system that is based on honesty rather than deception.

The ancient ethnocentric monkey�s (I�ll not name them but you know who they are) did not want to give up their ancient control, but it has been usurped very recently as Fulford has mentioned. They have yielded and seen the light, FINALLY. I personally had to explain to them that they were going to be the cause of doomsday if they don�t reject their ancient ethnocentrism and replace it with a new system based around the technology paradigm. There is no room for the ancient nonsense of fulfilling their elite ethnocentric pleasures. That is done. Life will still be just as wonderful and pleasant for them, just different, that is all.

The old system involved homogenizing humanity into �one.� That is not necessary in the new system. You�ve been highly brainwashed on this topic and I�m going to type something now that deprograms you very simply. All DNA branches like a tree. We can bind the branches of the tree with a rope, with propaganda, and force all human diversity into "one," thus destroying diversity. Or we can allow DNA to be free, to branch and diversify with nature. The new system is all about honesty and freedom, thus Japan can remain Japanese etc� same throughout the world.

That�s about it guys. Any questions?



FAIL!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 544389


A temporary set back.

A correction in the path is needed.

The fat lady has not sung yet.

WE ARE STILL HERE AND WILL NOT GIVE UP.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 428255
11/15/2008 12:01 PM
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bump
I still think an evil world order has no future.

i am so ready for the system to end. i find myself walking through life as a zombie with no real direction.

i am glad i have a job, as it means i can eat and have a roof over my head, but, in my opinion, this is not the existence meant for mankind. i am tired of others increase their wealth on my back.

i am just exhausted!
 Quoting: LS

Well isn`t it what everyone feels? Of course it is. People are losing motivation. Almost no one is doing his job like it should. And they are wright, of course.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/15/2008 8:31 PM
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bump
I still think an evil world order has no future.


i am so ready for the system to end. i find myself walking through life as a zombie with no real direction.

i am glad i have a job, as it means i can eat and have a roof over my head, but, in my opinion, this is not the existence meant for mankind. i am tired of others increase their wealth on my back.

i am just exhausted!

Well isn`t it what everyone feels? Of course it is. People are losing motivation. Almost no one is doing his job like it should. And they are wright, of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255


Yeah I am hearing it all over too.

Just trying to find some info, something to hope for.

The news I hear can be taken so many different ways, and is not a clear indication.

This Saturday's summit will be reported on in the next day or two. We will see what direction TPTB think they are going to take us.

We need to really harness our own powerful energies and start creating in our own worlds.
Begin deciding that we CAN do the things we are waiting for the veil to come down to do.

Keep practicing doing it and it will have to start to happen. Keep hammering at the wall that surrounds us.

NO DESPAIR!
What do you want? See what you can do to have it happen. Start with your thoughts; accepting that it can be.
Not WORLD PEACE because you can't really hold that. It is so complicated.

Something for yourself...a better mood...
How about finding a better job, or finding a dollar on the ground.
I am starting small so that I can believe it can happen and then progress.

I go in and out of the possibility that this is true.
But I can't keep going on holding my breath waiting for TPTB to make major decision that effect my life.
I have to step out and do what I can, crazy as it sounds.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 428255
11/16/2008 12:45 AM
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bump
I still think an evil world order has no future.


i am so ready for the system to end. i find myself walking through life as a zombie with no real direction.

i am glad i have a job, as it means i can eat and have a roof over my head, but, in my opinion, this is not the existence meant for mankind. i am tired of others increase their wealth on my back.

i am just exhausted!

Well isn`t it what everyone feels? Of course it is. People are losing motivation. Almost no one is doing his job like it should. And they are wright, of course.


Yeah I am hearing it all over too.

Just trying to find some info, something to hope for.

The news I hear can be taken so many different ways, and is not a clear indication.

This Saturday's summit will be reported on in the next day or two. We will see what direction TPTB think they are going to take us.

We need to really harness our own powerful energies and start creating in our own worlds.
Begin deciding that we CAN do the things we are waiting for the veil to come down to do.

Keep practicing doing it and it will have to start to happen. Keep hammering at the wall that surrounds us.

NO DESPAIR!
What do you want? See what you can do to have it happen. Start with your thoughts; accepting that it can be.
Not WORLD PEACE because you can't really hold that. It is so complicated.

Something for yourself...a better mood...
How about finding a better job, or finding a dollar on the ground.
I am starting small so that I can believe it can happen and then progress.

I go in and out of the possibility that this is true.
But I can't keep going on holding my breath waiting for TPTB to make major decision that effect my life.
I have to step out and do what I can, crazy as it sounds.
 Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783

Yea I`m undecided too and recently I`m really wondering about the economical issues, are they planned and how could they be used by TPTP from one side, and the people from the other. I`ve always thought that we, some of us, could take advantage of an economic collapse and use it for their good! But of course, at the same time it could be planned and they could try implementing the evil NWO as an aftermath. But there are really many possibilities, so I absolutely agree - no despair and always look for the possitive things that can be done in one scenario or another. hf
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/16/2008 1:55 PM
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Maybe we have to wait until the Bushcos are completely out of the picture on January 20.

He has the leverage of nuclear war against Iran as his blackmail tactic.

I know Obama's administration is looking like a repeat of Clintonville, but there may be some wild card in there to turn the tide somehow.

Will the people watch carefully? Or just assume because it is Obama it must be ok.

Have to wait some more....
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/17/2008 7:19 PM
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I don't usuall y care or put faith in Poof(or Casper for that matter), but this is interesting:

I understand his reference to Dragons, Pleidians, and Sirians. Do you?
It is welcome news.

And have you ever heard of someone like Poof talk about the Reps, Sirians or pledias before?

That is even more hopeful that something is cracking open.

Can't wait to see what will happen next...


[link to www.fourwinds10.com]


POOF Report - November 16, 2008

Greetings and Salutations;

Should've been over, but it wasn't. They are in my woods now and there's no return. This is the stuff I began talking about in 99. The new global banking system. Everything you folks are picking up in the media, internet news, what have you, was settled and signed off on years ago. They are acting like these 'proposals' came out of the air so there needs to be

debate and agreements. In nov of 03, when brussels called a 'come to jesus' meeting, all the movers and shakers, bankers, countries, imf, world bank, the bis, name 'em and claim 'em, ironed out and signed off, clapping each other on the back, how wonderful the world would be, with what they decided upon. Even the order of program deliveries was agreed upon. This is why, my comments about, them having all these meetings, seemed so useless to me. You already Have the schematics, what's with gum flapping?

Here's what the flapping of the gums has been about. The 3 countries named before, the us, uk, and germany, have been the problem children. When the day arrived to kick all this stuff in, they specifically weren't not going to be running the whole thing but rather be operating under the multi-polar new system, which means they have to cooperate with the whole world,

recognizing that All countries have a say in how things operate. The death of the fed system, no more hegemony of the dollar. You want globalism, well you got it fellas, tho it didn't quite work out the way you wanted. What happens to our 'top position' in the world, you should be asking old man bush and his son that question, they are the one's who dropped this country in the biggest debt hole in history and challenged the rothschilds in the banking world, thinking the chinese would back them up. Never for a moment thinking that the rothschilds also were beholding to the dragon clan for their position in the world. The difference being, when the dragon told them to kill the fed, the rothschilds got busy immediately, they've survived because they know how the wind blows and always dance to the right tune. I know some of you saw David Rothschild make a comment about a new world order of banking, well duh, there is. The problem is, you get stuck on the words, new world order, and fail to remember, I told you those elitists were going thru their own reorganization, who was going to be on what side, when the time came. The bilderburgs went their own split of the factions...neo-cons were not a part of the other version of the new world order. The people you don't ever see in your news said they weren't interested in controlling the population, sticking chips in people, watching their movements, or taking your child under some crazy recruitment crap. So, when the Baron spoke of a new world order of banking, it felt to me, like he was slapping old man bush across his face, letting him know, 'you ain't running this'. If you only knew How much the rothschilds' detest the bushs', his statement would make more sense. It was more like, 'nanny nanny poo poo, gotcha!'

The imf will not be the new central bank, but will merge with the world bank and will be a a part of this new global banking system, as a truly international organization. This info comes from their 'internals', as they were a part of creating the new system, as their attorney's were sent across the planet years ago, getting countries to sign onto the new system. These countries were Not coereced, they all took there time to decide if it was good thing for them...surprise surprise. You have to understand the 2 faces they show in the world, they are survivers and understand 'adapting' to world conditions...like who has the power. They are kind of like a girlfriend or boyfriend, who'll go with the person with the shiniest car and leave you sitting there with your roses in hand. This was too big to be on the wrong side of. Those countries have all handed in their paperwork and joined, about 4 years ago. I'm about to step on some toes out here but here goes, those countries in the g20, already signed on for that new system, they also want their money due them from the imf humanitarian programs, the trillions to be released on our heels. They weren't over here to make kissy face. Of course there's going to be a revaluation of currencies, even a price on gold has been established, but it's not going to be based on the dollar. There's the rub the 3 problem child countries are having in trying to keep the crap kicking. We're not down for chipping, people, hello, not going to do it, wouldn't be prudent. Oh yea, all you neo nazi, skin head, nut balls, hanging out in western wash st and idaho, armed to the teeth, got problems trying to get your little race war happening in america. Even the klan is smart enough to understand when the winds have shifted direction. Did you know the klan has black membership? Ya just never know, until ya do. Oh yea, and no one is recreating the wheel here, so don't be looking for a new bretton woods agreement.

Banks on, banks off, on basel 2 compliancy has been solved. Yea, I know we're getting kicked in the teeth while they pull their heads out of the 'proverbials' but, as I said before, I'm not on the board, no one listens to me, it has to be their idea before the obvious is 'figured out'. The whole world is seized up, money, credit, trade, and the only hope is the release of this program and the imf humanitarian programs. The 3 problem children wanted to be in charge and the whole flippin' rest of the world said NO and are ready to turn their backs and walk away. Anybody got a good idea for making this country viable without help from the world, bush broke it and isn't sticking around to fix it because daddy couldn't fix another problem in business he created. BTW, because americans don't seem to understand anything beyond the shores or across the border, for that matter, see how you can operate without some sort of help coming from the other shores. You're at least 60t in debt, you have no gold to speak of, and no one is willing to loan the us anymore money, what do you do? This is way past what political party you're a part of, money doesn't care about that sort of thing.

Since they 'figured it out' and survival is more important that a few countries who believe they should be running everything, as broke as they are, deliveries will be in your hands faster than you might imagine. Think, china, russia, brazil, and india, are power houses in this new world, do you really believe they will stand down when the former power houses are broke and need their money to make it? Sorry america we have some adjustments to make and the opinion in Tx, is like all other opinions and fly crap. The us is looking at 3rd world position due to the man who said he'd return 'pureness' to the white house. Dude, being a filanderer is not the same as screwing the entire country...but you don't see it, folks just don't understand your great vision. Hell, I was talking about your daddy's vision as soon as reagan came into office and caught him telling a fat lie to cover up for your sorry butts..oh ollie north, what a great american patriot. When all this stuff is brought out for your edification, and it will, remember poofy told you first. As they say, truth is always the first casualty.... Dragons are not the bad guys. If you want to get the bottom line on the dragon clan, you better first understand the reptilians, who they have chased down after they kicked their sorry behinds out of drago thru orion, all the way to the edge of the milkyway. Sit down and talk to th 13 ruling banking families and you might arrive at the truth. The sirians nor the pleaidians, are walking on water around here. Don't ask me what those last few lines were about, if it doesn't make any sense to you, the folks that's aimed at know what I'm taking about. Been there and done that.
reedbecker
User ID: 545294
11/18/2008 12:43 AM
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hello all,

I haven't been on in a bit because my computer screen on my notebook went boom. Suxs.

Trying to catch up on the missed posts.

:)

peace - reeder
Flaming Sword
User ID: 521398
11/18/2008 12:55 AM
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Hi guys
hi Annie Oakley


I relaxed once
I saw you on the porch, in your rocking chair, scanning the horizon...



I feel safe

I feel kinship.


Likewise you Wl1...


And to all others here

I am new to this thread but for in passing, but I feel that we can create a utopian society where all can flourish, not but a few.


Be proud.

Be wise

Be Gracious.


Let us not yeild one whit to the failed prophesy.


Let us forge with dignity, the charter of fairness, love and above all, let us emblazon the flame of hope and fan it like wildfire through to the weary hearts of the dispossesed and broken.

Let us do it now.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/18/2008 11:18 AM
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Flamming Sword, Reed and All~ grouphug smile_hear


I don't have a porch to rock on, except in my heart...
there you be too. ;>
WL1
User ID: 553121
11/18/2008 11:51 AM
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Hi guys
hi Annie Oakley


I relaxed once
I saw you on the porch, in your rocking chair, scanning the horizon...



I feel safe

I feel kinship.


Likewise you Wl1...


And to all others here

I am new to this thread but for in passing, but I feel that we can create a utopian society where all can flourish, not but a few.


Be proud.

Be wise

Be Gracious.


Let us not yeild one whit to the failed prophesy.


Let us forge with dignity, the charter of fairness, love and above all, let us emblazon the flame of hope and fan it like wildfire through to the weary hearts of the dispossessed and broken.

Let us do it now.
 Quoting: Flaming Sword 521398

Hi FS

Strange how just yesterday I was reading something you wrote and thinking the very same thing - we are on the same team - and it is good to know that.
As always I appreciate your incredible ability with words and these words from your above post are well worth repeating :

Let us forge with dignity, the charter of fairness, love and above all, let us emblazon the flame of hope and fan it like wildfire through to the weary hearts of the dispossessed and broken.

Let us do it now.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/18/2008 12:02 PM
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OK, so people say that Sorcha Faal is a disinfo CIA agent, David Boothe.
That all ISPs lead to Langley.

But I will say that David Boothe is an insider trying to get info out...his cover is not very good, but "those who have ears..."

So here are two links to the latest Sorcha.
The first gives an alternative reason to the offering of SOS to Hillary:
[link to www.whatdoesitmean.com]

And this second one indicates the war between these two factions(many different members):
[link to www.whatdoesitmean.com]

What strikes me is the "code talk" that is shown in each message as Sorcha points out.
We all know here that there are patsies to do the dirty work in False Flag strikes.

But this took it to a different level for me.
Like the promise to find and kill Osama Bin laden as a priority by Obama; it's a message to those in our government who are the foes of our country. War between factions.

And offering Hillary the SOS could mean so many things.
I am prone to think in the negative: Obama owned by the Clintons thru blackmail, etc.
But what if it is as Sorcha tells it~to break down the NWO and create something new...the first steps?
This opens the door to me feeling more optimistic about Obama as a true white hat.

What if Rahm Emmanuel is a double agent FOR America? A spy against Zionism? Yeah, he is aterrible bastard. But what if given the right incentive, he switched?

Friends are enemies and enemies friends.

Don't want to get all mushy on myself here...lol.
Some of it sounds outlandish, and I don't want to let down my guard.
But it feels real fine to see a possible light!

If there is code between the lines~ and there always is no doubt~there is a LOT going on that may be the first steps towards changing this world in the right direction of HWO.

Can't do it all at once Agent(OP)...maybe the plan is to do it slow and careful, isolating and disarming them and then dissolving them(those who will not cooperate for a HWO) so that there is no backlash against the population.

Wow. Hurt my head opening that possibility...been dark so long.

As Ben Fulford said to Jeff Rense~ You are at the Heart of the Darkness and can't see what is possible.
Ben has been so optimistic and positive ...I have listened to him several times to stay uplifted... ;>
He will be on Rense tomorrow nite.
Posted ASAP after that.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/18/2008 12:09 PM
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HI WL1~ glad you are still here with us!
Good to hear from you with your wonderful energy!
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