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WL1
User ID: 553121
11/18/2008 7:52 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

HI WL1~ glad you are still here with us!
Good to hear from you with your wonderful energy!
 Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783

Likewise ma'am.
Always lurking somewhere where I am not needed.
Flaming Sword
User ID: 521398
11/18/2008 7:57 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

As I lay in bed the other night, stilling the mind before I summon the dark clouds of sleep, I saw four fiery swords coming from the cardinal points, touching at the tips, too form a cross of white fire.

I see we have three of the four blades.

I love this
Its like my drummer and me say well start rocking when the bassist arrives, then the keyboards.
it will come.

Blessings to all who nuture hope in the face of uncertianty.
Flaming Sword
User ID: 521398
11/18/2008 8:00 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

but then I espy scientist who cares, a true friend to all

is he, the wily old fox, holding a fiery sabre?

muses with delight
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/18/2008 8:14 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

I asked Majestic if he has time to take a peek here.
Would be interesting...MJ has a couple of new threads up.

I like your visions Flaming Sword!

Yes, there are several who come in and out; I bet lots lurk who are very much 'on board' when the time is ripe!
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/18/2008 8:22 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Tracking me down I see on MJ's threads, eh, FS?
LOL.

Good, I like company I know.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/18/2008 8:23 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

HI WL1~ glad you are still here with us!
Good to hear from you with your wonderful energy!

Likewise ma'am.
Always lurking somewhere where I am not needed.
 Quoting: WL1 553121


Always needed and wanted, dear heart! hf
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/19/2008 10:19 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Here is a different take of the way things are moving.
This is not written by me, and I cannot give a link as it is a no-no site:


Theresa, a good friend of mine (no, not the lady who runs STA!) wrote me this note yesterday. As I am hearing similar things from other people, I thought her question sufficiently interesting to post an edited version with my reply. Xavier Hermes

--------------------------
Theresa says:

'I just want to touch base with you and say that something peculiar is happening with my timelines. I know you of all people understand about this. It's as though one day my reality is heading in one direction then suddenly everything changes.

'So I couldn't go to Venice (her recent plan - XH) and had to do past-life clearing. I was then told I would not be going to Europe this year and needed to ground myself in Vancouver.

'Now this has all changed yet again and the energy is picking up for a trip to London.

'Have you been aware of this phenomenon lately? Rapidly moving timelines or probable realities?

'It's very intense.'
------------------------

My response:

I have the sense that the ascension process is proceeding in layers (or frequency bands) – and that different people are at different stages of the process, and therefore existing within those different layers. It seems that we have only just got to grips with the new contents of one layer (and thus things seem to be stabilising), when we get jetted on to the next one – which has a different set of assumptions, and a whole new set of challenges to go with them! So, the assimilation process for the new layer starts over yet again… as they say, the only thing you can rely upon now is constant change!

We can identify some of the timeline elements here. First, we have the old duality, with the ever more obvious collapsing of its old time structure (just as the Mayan calendar predicted). This time-line has pretty much gone completely now, so that the old duality is literally 'out of time'. It is only being held in place by the habits and inertia of many millions of people, a sort of unconscious retro-manifesting. The underlying structure is no longer there.

Then, we have a number of mini-timelines. Each ascension layer appears to have a kind of 'virtual timeline' to it, these being essentially transitional. Change the assumptions, and you change the timeline - and vice versa!

Finally, of course, there is an entirely New Reality shaping up, and this has been running alongside the old one for some time (I see the harmonic convergence in the 1990's as the two time structures aligning for the first time). This is the one that has for long been predicted and anticipated, that world teachers have spoken of, and as anticipated by the New Age movement. It is also the one that the old powers (TPTW) want to suppress and 'rubbish' through their negative spin, since they are deeply afraid of it. It is thanks to them that the perfectly proper and very exciting concept of a New Age has become tarnished in an effort to anti-manifest as people cease to believe in it.

But it is there, and steadily emerging anyway - despite TPTW's best (= most negative) efforts.

Essentially, the time structure for any reality contains its blueprint – so we have a dying old reality (frequency clustered around the 200 point on Dr David Hawkin's scale of consciousness), and an emerging new one (clustered around 700 on the same scale), these two running in parallel for the moment and built around vastly different blueprints. All the elements of planetary dysfunction we are currently observing will simply not be sustainable in the higher frequencies of the New Reality. Between the two there are these transitional frequency bands – and these elements are, to some extent, mini timelines.

We have the additional complexity that our own frequencies are now moving around a lot (often jumping around) on a daily basis, so we are frequently cutting across these mini or transitional timelines - we are effectively jumping from timeline to timeline as our own frequencies move up and down. A formula for personal confusion!

Finally, there are a plethora of potential timelines radiating out from the 700 point. I don't think the one that we will finally take has emerged as yet, so I think that individuals can venture into the beginning of some of the options as they rapidly evolve themselves. The characteristics of the New Reality timeline are, to a substantial extent, being defined by those who are at the higher levels of the mass consciousness, and their explorations of the timeline options are a part of this. The frequencies they are starting to hold also have a far greater entraining effect on the rest of us than the lower level frequencies we have lived within for so long.

All of the above means that there are many, many timeline options in play right now! And that we are moving around them - hence your experience.

By the way, I dowsed your place on the David Hawkins scale. We each inhabit a kind of bracket (i.e., highest and lowest) with an average which is determined by what percentage of our time we spend at the extremities. The yardstick is that humanity at large is averaging out at around 213 - it was 208 only a few weeks back, so escalating change of the mass consciousness! 700 is the 'onset of true higher consciousness (according to Hawkins). So, your 'bracket' indicates a fairly large spread: highest 704, low point 580 weighted average 619. I would put this as an indication that your own consciousness is pretty leading edge – you are running well ahead of the population in general (which of course you know), so it is no wonder to me that you are encountering the timeline phenomenon.

-----------------------------------

This last paragraph shows that Theresa is holding a remarkably high set of frequencies - and my dowsing-based research shows that the number of people doing so is increasing rapidly. When the average frequency for an individual moves above 700, they become a pillar, indeed, a primary creator, of the emerging New Reality and - at least from the standpoint of the now-dead old reality structure - they have finally gained enlightenment.

The exciting stages are now before us! Xavier Hermes
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/19/2008 4:44 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Does anyone besides me remember Ben Fulford talking about the Chinese coming in and buying hard assets from USA to balance the debt it is holding dollars?
He saw it as the beginning of a one world order.
I think it is in the October 22 interview with Rense.

Well here is an interesting story to watch and see howit unfolds:
[link to www.thetruthaboutcars.com]

Chinese Automakers May Buy GM and Chrysler

By Bertel Schmitt
November 18, 2008 - 31,964 views

Chinese carmakers SAIC and Dongfeng have plans to acquire GM and Chrysler, China’s 21st Century Business Herald reports today. [A National Enquirer the paper is not. It is one of China's leading business newspapers, with a daily readership over three million.] The paper cites a senior official of China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology– the state regulator of China’s auto industry– who dropped the hint that “the auto manufacturing giants in China, such as Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation (SAIC) and Dongfeng Motor Corporation, have the capability and intention to buy some assets of the two crisis-plagued American automakers.” These hints are very often followed with quick action in the Middle Kingdom. The hints were dropped just a few days after the same Chinese government gave its auto makers the go-ahead to invest abroad. And why would they do that?

A take-over of a large overseas auto maker would fit perfectly into China’s plans. As reported before, China has realized that its export chances are slim without unfettered access to foreign technology. The brand cachet of Chinese cars abroad is, shall we say, challenged. The Chinese could easily export Made-in-China VWs, Toyotas, Buicks. If their joint venture partner would let them. The solution: Buy the joint venture partner. Especially, when he’s in deep trouble.

At current market valuations (GM is worth less than Mattel) the Chinese government can afford to buy GM with petty cash. Even a hundred billion $ would barely dent China’s more than $2t in currency reserves. For nobody in the world would buying GM and (while they are at it) Chrysler make more sense than for the Chinese. Overlap? What overlap? They would gain instant access to the world’s markets with accepted brands, and proven technology.

21st Century Business Herald, obviously with input from higher-up, writes that Chinese industry must change and upgrade. China wants their factories to change from low-value-added manufacturing to technically innovative and financially-sound high-value-add industries. Says the paper: “It would be much easier now for strong Chinese automakers to go global by acquiring some assets of their U.S. counterparts in times of crisis.”

Deloitte & Touche sees a trend: “Chinese automakers can start with buying out the OEM projects and Chinese ventures of some global carmakers such as GM and Chrysler.”

The Chinese appear to have bigger plans than an accounting firm can imagine. 21st Century Business Herald acts and writes as if its already a done deal, and the beginning of more to come. “In the coming two years China is likely to see a few of its large Chinese automakers and other manufacturing enterprises set a precedent for achieving globalization by acquiring global companies, just like SAIC or Dongfeng’s possible acquisition of troubled GM or Chrysler.”

Just in case you missed it, the Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation (SAIC) is China’s largest auto manufacturer. In 1984, the company entered a joint venture with Volkswagen. A decade later, SAIC entered a joint venture with General Motors. In 2007, SAIC bought the Nanjing Automobile Corporation, which had acquired British MG Rover in 2005.

Dongfeng Motor Corporation is a public company, although 70 percent of their shares are reported to be in government hands. They also are one of China’s Big Three. The company has numerous joint venture partners, such as Nissan, Peugeot-Citroen, Honda, and Kia. Dongfeng (which means “East Wind”) was founded at the behest of Mao Zedong himself in 1968.
S. who C.
User ID: 554766
11/19/2008 4:54 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

but then I espy scientist who cares, a true friend to all

is he, the wily old fox, holding a fiery sabre?

muses with delight
 Quoting: Flaming Sword 521398


You espy? oh... well, friend to all good intended yes, thankyou... most kindly ; ) I had been called an old fox and an old owl, curious, he he he... i love this animals... not just those of course.

"Blessings to all who nuture hope in the face of uncertainty." quote

Blessings indeed for a better world ; )

Yes, there are those who questions, those who thinks and who seek for wisdom coming ... many hopes and possibilities

We all could contribute no matters how much to the construction of alternative realities with the potential of becoming wiser and significantly sustainable in comparison with our present ones, we should try the best we can with the best we have ; )

Best hopes for a better world ; )
A Scientist who Cares
S. who C.
User ID: 554766
11/19/2008 5:21 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

A message of hope for humanity on Crabwood? Perhaps ; )

"Beware of the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises. Much much pain but still time. (Believe/Beware/be alive)? there is good (t)here (or: out there?). Therebye oppose deception (or: we oppose deception?)Conduit closing!"

----------------------------------------------------------​--

on a second decodification level (ASCII):

"EBE is good"

probably... isn´t that likely? likely wisefull?
Otherwise... they probably wouldn´t be there any more...
it´s just the same for us, we are being tested by our own development... it´s part of our evolution, there are many possibilities... just we should be wise and succesfull enough to choose worthy ones!

Amazing futures are possible ; )

Conclusion:

A message of hope indeed, not make up by unprepared jokers without high technology (at least local positioners or military GPS and a machine that could make the patterns almost without noticeable errors, as well as a quite well planned pattern/message in several levels)
or a very well perpetrated hoax by intelligences, which nevertheless communicate a message of hope for humankind.

Perhaps... not human, it´s quite possible. Awesome.

S. who C.
bump

ps- there is a third interpretation or message of which i wouldn´t be so sure about, but some thinks that it is related with a current deception brought by equivocal decisions of the past...
which in many ways are not off issue
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 519307
11/19/2008 6:56 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Two words for anyone following this thread:

NASSIM HARAMEIN
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/19/2008 7:05 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Two words for anyone following this thread:

NASSIM HARAMEIN
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519307


Yes. I tried to listen to him, but I got lost middle of the first hour. But good stuff, what I could follow.
I will try again, as there have been pieces posted around that were fascinating.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 519307
11/20/2008 3:13 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Two words for anyone following this thread:

NASSIM HARAMEIN


Yes. I tried to listen to him, but I got lost middle of the first hour. But good stuff, what I could follow.
I will try again, as there have been pieces posted around that were fascinating.
 Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783


May God strike me down if I'm lying (this deserves a thread by its own), but Haramein talks about how his physics (and he is in fact, a real deal physicst) has led him to describe the "geometry of the vaccum" (i.e. the geomety of the contractile side of the space-time manifold going to singularity ... whatever that means) and it is the EXACT SAME geomety as shown in various religion traditions.

In mine (Hinduism, it's the "Sri yantra": [link to images.google.com]

In the Chinese, the I-Ching

Judaism: the Tree of Life in the Kabala

(they're all the same geometry shown at different angles in 2-D instead of 3-D).
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/20/2008 9:30 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Two words for anyone following this thread:

NASSIM HARAMEIN


Yes. I tried to listen to him, but I got lost middle of the first hour. But good stuff, what I could follow.
I will try again, as there have been pieces posted around that were fascinating.


May God strike me down if I'm lying (this deserves a thread by its own), but Haramein talks about how his physics (and he is in fact, a real deal physicst) has led him to describe the "geometry of the vaccum" (i.e. the geomety of the contractile side of the space-time manifold going to singularity ... whatever that means) and it is the EXACT SAME geomety as shown in various religion traditions.

In mine (Hinduism, it's the "Sri yantra": [link to images.google.com]

In the Chinese, the I-Ching

Judaism: the Tree of Life in the Kabala

(they're all the same geometry shown at different angles in 2-D instead of 3-D).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519307


"the geometry of the contractile side of the space-time manifold going to singularity ... whatever that means"

LOL.
That's what I mean... bricks.


"and it is the EXACT SAME geometry as shown in various religion traditions."

That is wonderful and attests to the macro/microcosm of Creation which goes beyond religion... meaning that you don't have to have one to see the perfection therein.

Fascinating. Thanks for putting it in easier terms.
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/20/2008 9:45 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

A message of hope for humanity on Crabwood? Perhaps ; )

"Beware of the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises. Much much pain but still time. (Believe/Beware/be alive)? there is good (t)here (or: out there?). Therebye oppose deception (or: we oppose deception?)Conduit closing!"

----------------------------------------------------------​--

on a second decodification level (ASCII):

"EBE is good"

probably... isn´t that likely? likely wisefull?
Otherwise... they probably wouldn´t be there any more...
it´s just the same for us, we are being tested by our own development... it´s part of our evolution, there are many possibilities... just we should be wise and succesfull enough to choose worthy ones!

Amazing futures are possible ; )

Conclusion:

A message of hope indeed, not make up by unprepared jokers without high technology (at least local positioners or military GPS and a machine that could make the patterns almost without noticeable errors, as well as a quite well planned pattern/message in several levels)
or a very well perpetrated hoax by intelligences, which nevertheless communicate a message of hope for humankind.

Perhaps... not human, it´s quite possible. Awesome.

S. who C.
bump

ps- there is a third interpretation or message of which i wouldn´t be so sure about, but some thinks that it is related with a current deception brought by equivocal decisions of the past...
which in many ways are not off issue
 Quoting: S. who C. 554766


Hi S who C~ I'm sorry i don't understand this post.
I contemplated it, but maybe you want to explain it to me?
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/20/2008 2:46 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Here is an article by Ben Fulford on REnse:
[link to www.rense.com]

There are two pictures you may want to view in the link.



Rockefeller's Ninja Goes Public
With Illuminati 'Truth' About 'God'
By Benjamin Fulford
11-16-8


A senior member of a secret society that has ruled much of humanity for the past 5775 years has gone public. This society is none other than the "God" of the old testament. While it is impossible to independently confirm the truth of much of what he has to say, and while it is almost certain what he has told me is a mix of truth and disinformation, much of it does fit with what we truth seekers have all been learning since the events of 911. His testimony has finally given me enough pieces of the puzzle to reveal much about this "God" organization know known to us as the illuminati. Before I proceed further I wish to remind all truth seekers of that old adage: "the truth is stranger than fiction."

The Ninja's name is Shiramine and until now he went by the code name "OK Corral." The Ninja's are an organization that date back to 7th century Japan. They are not to be confused with the Chinese secret societies that go back to 500 B.C. The Ninja's come in three basic ranks. The first rank is the martial arts experts (sometimes completely covered in black clothing for night work) we usually associate with Nina's. These were and remain today the Japanese elite forces. The head of the Ninja elite forces today is a man by the name of Hatsumi. Hatsumi has trained over 170,000 US, UK, and Israeli special forces and is considered one of the world's premiere martial arts experts.

The second level Nina's are like military planners or senior bureaucrats. They are charged with strategic planning.

The highest level Ninjas are people who make history. In the old days they served the Emperor or various war-lords. Today's high level Ninjas serve the Emperor of Japan or else the Rothschild or Rockefeller families. Shiramine was, until recently, David Rockefeller's Ninja charged with enforcing his secret rule over Japan. However, according to Shiramine, there has been a generational change in the secret government of the West. David Rockefeller has ceded power to his Nephew Senator Jay Rockefeller. Evylin Rothschild, for his part, has ceded power to Baron David Rotschild. Just as a new king brings forth new policies, so does a generational change in the Western secret government. So, Shiramine now reports to Jay Rockefeller.

The reason Shiramine decided to go public is that his bosses in the Ninja organization (those who report to the imperial family) found out he was an illuminati agent. They contacted me and asked if they should have him "taken care of." A terrified Shiramine came to me for support. I told him that since he had been un-masked, his best policy would be to go public. And so he has.

According to Shiramine and many other sources(including secret Rothschild documents I have in my possession), the Japanese imperial family dates back 442 generations or 8000 years. Back then Japan was a refuge in a world ravaged by radical environmental change and the collapse of advanced civilization. There is evidence, such as 8000 year old stone tablets with unknown writing on them found in Okinawa, to back up what he says.

We Westerners have been taught that civilization began about 3,000 BC in Mesopotamia but that is most certainly a lie. For example, they have recently uncovered a 9,500 year old civilization 36 meters (120 feet) underwater off the coast of India:

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Please do your own research on this issue until you are satisfied with the evidence but it is becoming clear there were very advanced civilizations dating back at least 15,000 years that were ravaged by war and extreme environmental change such as the global floods caused by the end of the ice age.

According to Shirame survivors of the ancient civilization of Atlantis who still had much of their advanced knowledge decided to use that knowledge to become God-like rulers of illiterate farmers and herdsmen in Babylonia.

The best evidence I can find for this is in the old testament. We can recall how when "God" contacted Moses, he turned the river Nile red and there were plagues of frogs and plagues of locusts. When the Romans re-conquered Judea they captured a lone survivor at Masada, who later became the historian Josephus. According to Josephus a toxic red rock (probably containing mercury) was dumped into the river. If the water become poisonous, the frogs will abandon it. If the plants die due to poison, the hungry locusts will start to swarm. So we see a group of people creating 911 type events around 1400 BC.

The entire exodus story appears to be the story of Babylonian God kings stealing the Egyptian God-king's pyramid building slaves.

Please also take a look at a non-King James version of the bible (that being a bowdlerized version) and read the part where Moses gets the ten commandments. A barrier is placed around Mt. Sinai and only Moses and his "high priests" are allowed to go and see "God." If anybody else tries to go, they will be killed by "rocks" or "arrows." If God can create the universe, surely it could at least use bolts of lightning instead of arrows and stones. Furthermore, "God" summons Moses with a "ram's horn trumpet."

Later God asks the Jews to bring gifts like:

Exodus 25

Offerings for the Tabernacle

1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Tell the Israelites to bring me an offering. You are to receive the offering for me from each man whose heart prompts him to give. 3 These are the offerings you are to receive from them: gold, silver and bronze; 4 blue, purple and scarlet yarn and fine linen; goat hair; 5 ram skins dyed red and hides of sea cows [a] ; acacia wood; 6 olive oil for the light; spices for the anointing oil and for the fragrant incense; 7 and onyx stones and other gems to be mounted on the ephod and breastpiece.

So, here we have a God who created the entire universe in 7 days asking for "hides of sea cows" and what-not. Clearly this is not God but rather a Babylonian God king.

The first three commandments are to not make an effigy of God and to obey absolutely. Clearly the God kings found it convenient to keep their existence secret so that their slaves would not figure out they were being ruled by mere people such as themselves.

Since I have written much of the middle part of the story elsewhere, I am now going to fast-forward to the present world situation.

Basically, we in the West are still under the rule of Babylonian style-God kings. They control us by controlling finance, world grain markets (Property of Queen Elizabeth), energy markets and the world's biggest military organizations. Just like in medieval times, they have orders of Knights such as the Knights of Malta or the Order of the Garter. Beneath the knights lie secret services like the Freemasons, the CIA and the Jesuits. Let us recall that a mason is a stone worker. The Freemasons are the organization that lay in-between the God king and the pyramid building slaves.





Here is a picture of me with the Ninja just after I was given a Freemason badge and offered the job of Finance Minister of Japan. I have a tape recording of the conversation where this offer was made.

The Freemason lodge set up by General McArthur in Japan after World War 2 (it is subject to the Philippine lodge which in turn reports to the Blue Lodge in London) contacted me and took a picture of my badge. They looked it up in a book of badges but they could not find it. However, they said it appeared to be a genuine Freemason badge. Well, according to Shiramine it is in fact an illuminati badge. He says only 20 exist in the world. Here it is:





If you look at the top of the badge you can see the crown of England. The Queen's representative in her Japanese colony is the Emperor of Japan. The badges such as the one I got must belong to the senior secret representatives of the British Crown in Japan.

The reason I refused to accept the offer and its implied billion dollar bribe is because Shiramine told me they were planning to reduce the global population to 2 billion people via disease, starvation and war "in order to save the environment." I was given this offer because I was about to expose to the Japanese people the fact that their country has been systematically looted by foreign oligarchs who were planning to start world war 3. They must have figured it would be easier to induct me into the ranks than kill me since they knew I have hundreds of hours of tape recorded conversations containing explosive information.

Perhaps now is a good time to put some of this information on the public record. First of all, I found out that numerous Japanese Prime Ministers have been murdered in the post war years because they were not being obedient enough. My sources include senior Yakuza, and senior associates of former Prime Minister's Hashimoto, Takeshita and Tanaka among others.

The other shameful thing is what really happened before the 1985 Plaza accords were reached. The Americans actually shot down Japan airlines flight 123 in August to force Japan to agree to the Plaza accord reached in September of that year. Since that time, the Japanese people have been systematically looted of their wealth to finance the US/UK/Israeli military machine. They actually attacked Japan with HAARP several times over the years to continue to enforce their looting.

The final insult was the handing over of control of the Japanese banking system to proxies of the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds during the Koizumi administration.

The first hint to me that something was wrong came when the Japanese government first decided to use tax-payer money to bail out failing financial companies. I found out more than half the bad debts from the bursting of Japan's financial bubble went to Yakuza or Yakuza front companies. I started to make connections with the Yakuza and they told me they were just middle men. The trail took me to senior politicians and through them eventually took me to the illuminati organization of the Western aristocracy. That is when I got the offer from the Ninja.

The reason I am still alive to tell this story is that an Asian secret society offered me protection.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 449656
11/20/2008 10:58 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

the bible prophecy is coming down the pike!
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/22/2008 10:32 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

This story is about how the Iraqi people are coming out in droves and are virally against the SOFA(US forces stay until 2011 etc.) pact between the US Military and the Iraqi government.

Al sadr has said his army will start a new insurrection if the US stay for 3 more years.

Notice I said the US Military, the Iraqi governement, and insurrection, rather than Americans, Itraqis and terrorists.

Clearly the people want freedom and peace on both sides.

[link to english.aljazeera.net]


This is another sign of the waning power of the elite.
S. who C.
User ID: 557210
11/23/2008 2:17 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

A message of hope for humanity on Crabwood? Perhaps ; )

"Beware of the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises. Much much pain but still time. (Believe/Beware/be alive)? there is good (t)here (or: out there?). Therebye oppose deception (or: we oppose deception?)Conduit closing!"

----------------------------------------------------------​--

on a second decodification level (ASCII):

"EBE is good"

probably... isn´t that likely? likely wisefull?
Otherwise... they probably wouldn´t be there any more...
it´s just the same for us, we are being tested by our own development... it´s part of our evolution, there are many possibilities... just we should be wise and succesfull enough to choose worthy ones!

Amazing futures are possible ; )

Conclusion:

A message of hope indeed, not make up by unprepared jokers without high technology (at least local positioners or military GPS and a machine that could make the patterns almost without noticeable errors, as well as a quite well planned pattern/message in several levels)
or a very well perpetrated hoax by intelligences, which nevertheless communicate a message of hope for humankind.

Perhaps... not human, it´s quite possible. Awesome.

S. who C.
bump

ps- there is a third interpretation or message of which i wouldn´t be so sure about, but some thinks that it is related with a current deception brought by equivocal decisions of the past...
which in many ways are not off issue


Hi S who C~ I'm sorry i don't understand this post.
I contemplated it, but maybe you want to explain it to me?
 Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783



Hi Annie,

well i think it was posted somewhat out of context... as i posted it before in another thread, let´s say a swampy one with intereting things... but ambiguous things, with awesome/irresistible theme nevertheless and... something quite intriguing on it.

But let me explain that the above was written in relation to my thoughts around the "Crabwood crop circle message" (England), hadn´t you heard about it? Make some search and you will find a picture of an EBE (Extraterrestrial biological entity) with outstanding perspective being an art work on a crop field just in front of a radar anthena, and in front of the picture of the EBE... an intriguing disc containing a spiral code. If you translate the dots to binary code and then use ASCII to decode what was "drawn" then you get the message i talk about. I got the ASCII code obtained by ufologists from the web and had checked just some of the dots (stocastically) as it was so time consuming, and as far as i checked they coincide. So i use such code to make my own decodification of the ASCII characters and that´s what is written out of the parenthesis (Otherwise it is others decodification or intended reconstructions of allegedly damaged points). Well, it´s obviously a too well done work for being just a joke, just too complex, that´s why i got interested and so the questions. You couldn´t do that without high technology, current GPS will not work, neither handcrafted patterns.

But the important issue is the message itself, either if it´s human or not.

----------------------------------------------------------​--
"Beware of the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises. Much much pain but still time. (Believe/Beware/be alive)? there is good (t)here (or: out there?). Therebye oppose deception (or: we oppose deception?)Conduit closing!"
----------------------------------------------------------​--

It may have several interpretations... but as for many of our politics it fits quite well, isn´t it?

Still time of what? What you think?
Perhaps of making a succesful decision toward our shared future?
Time for civilization to choose among fail or success?
Perhaps time for defeating deception and for growing/evolving to more promising/illustrative paths?
Perhaps time to prepare to some sort of natural threats which are being misinformed about?
Perhaps all the above and even other things?

But, as i said... there could be several interpretations ; )
What is undoubtfull is that it is a message of hope.

Best hopes for a better world ; )
A Scientist who Cares
S. who C.
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11/23/2008 2:34 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Two words for anyone following this thread:

NASSIM HARAMEIN
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519307



Well, perhaps he has interesting things... although i had not enough patience to follow him in such slow videos... specially while wondering about methaphysical issues.

Nevertheless, it seems that what he is heading to with his abstract development of words is toward furthering a "hollow earths" agenda. And THE LATER IS COMPLETE DISINFORMATION... as everything we know points against such a bizarre idea.

The realy amazing theory, which goes after the even more amazing/awesome FACT is that the Earth is expanding and that such expanding has been aceleration to some level since about 500 million years ago. Look for the excelent works of Carey, James Maxlow and Scalera.

James Maxlow PhD thesis makes everything much clearer concerning the natural history of our planet. Plate tectonics have many things right, but it´s main weakness relies in its "worshiping" of the concept of subduction, which is probably not even among the relevant forces.

S. who C.
Annie Oakley
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11/24/2008 11:23 AM
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Can't believe I am posting "Poof" again.
Have a hunch he knows Ben Fulford, but I could be way off...
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He likes to start off with lyrics~

THE HOLLYWOOD ARGYLES lyrics - Alley-Oop

(Dallas Frazier)

(Oop-oop, oop, oop-oop)

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

There's a man in the funny papers we all know

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

He lives 'way back a long time ago

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

He don't eat nothin' but a bear cat stew

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

Well, this cat's name is-a Alley-Oop

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

He got a chauffeur that's a genuwine dinosawruh

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

And he can knuckle your head before you count to fawruh

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

He got a big ugly club and a head fulla hairuh

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

Like great big lions and grizzly bearuhs

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

(Alley-Oop) He's the toughest man there is alive

(Alley-Oop) Wearin' clothes from a wildcat's hide

(Alley-Oop) He's the king of the jungle jive

(Look at that cave man go!!) (SCREAM)

He rides thru the jungle tearin' limbs offa trees

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

Knockin' great big monstahs dead on their knees

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

The cats don't bug him cuz they know bettah

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

Cuz he's a mean motah scootah and a bad go-gettah

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

(Alley-Oop) He's the toughest man there is alive

(Alley-Oop) Wears clothes from a wildcat's hide

(Alley-Oop) He's the king of the jungle jive

(Look at that cave man go!!) (SCREAM)

Thair he goes,

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

Look at that cave man go

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

He sure is hip ain't he

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

Like what's happening

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

He's too much

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

Ride, Daddy, ride

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

Hi-yo dinosawruh

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

Ride, Daddy, ride

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

Get 'em, man

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

Like--hipsville

(Alley-Oop, oop, oop, oop-oop)

Greetings and Salutations,

Sorry this is so late but to tell you the truth, I didn't really want to write. I too have lost my patience, which was Always severely lacking with this A type personality. It doesn't help to have the bottom line yea ago and then watch idiots find ways to avoid the inevitable only to create worse and worse scenarios because they have no morals or any honor. It's been like being stuck in time loop where all you see is one episode of the 'Keystone Cops' after the other.

This last episode was the same with the same results. So they get the signatures of the 3 problem child countries for basel 2 compliancy and everyone got up to the plate last monday, ready to do this thing. Our guy gets called in to do his thing, within hours of him going in, you all see the 'message' out here about how some big wig won't sign anything and you'll never see a dime. Adding more insult to injury, mole man, darth vader himself, pulled off a stunt that screwed up some banking protocols, which had the folks in europe having to clean that mess up. Just know this, he got away with nothing....bu did cost us time, which is the only game they have. There is a special place in 'hell' for people like him. His protection right now is the fact he is in office right now but time is ticking and whether he

realizes his fate yet or not, since he's so arrogant, he's got 'hell to pay' for 8 years of nasty deeds.

Why don't we have this over with yet???? The world operates on electronics and number sequences and the bad guys have used every hacker they could get their hands on to throw monkey wrenches into whatever they could. I have said to whom ever would listen thru the years, they are liars, why do you keep trying to do the honorable thing and believe they will honor the

agreements they sign? They don't care, they want control of the new banking system and if they can't get it, you'll have to take off their heads if you expect to complete this. If they are willing to die for their cause, accomodate them, that's the only way this ends. This is war and has been such since 2000. Finally, finally, the dragon has lost it's patience and

reached the place I was years ago, 'take 'em out'. They didn't want to upset the american citizens with the truth stuck in their face since people over here believe so fervently, the us runs the world and have been willing to believe the crap their gov hands them with very little question. 'Well, they are protecting us'. Yea right! It's not islam, whatever they may think of themselves, the enemy is right here, get used to that info, because they who have the where with all are going to drop that on every american lap living in this country...publically. There won't be any dancing in the streets when all this stuff is dropped, and as the japanese minister said a few years ago, 'beware of the american giant'. They asked him if he meant the gov, he said, 'no, the american people, when they find out what their gov has done in their name'. Is the gov ready for over 300m people snapping on them? No gov can handle the citizentry losing it on them.

I've been intimating all along, there are folks on this planet who aren't putting up with the illuminati prison planet crap. They have more wealth and power than the dark ones, but have been reticent about using it because, while they aren't 'religious', that are spiritual. They never wanted to use the power they have, they expected the lesser powers to use their common sense and get out of the way seeing over whelming force coming at them. I'm telling them, hey dudes, these folks eat their own, are you kidding me? Their philopsophy is 'rule or ruin'...hello.

I don't know at this point, who all's grill was gotten into this weekend, but I do know a bunch of operatives went active. The imf money must be released and that is ready but before that is set loose all these packies must be dropped. Bernanke is printing money for all he's worth creating the modern day version of the Wiemar Republic. The 700b isn't even liquid yet and won't be until these packs are dropped. Remember this guy is known as 'whirly bob'...he has money printed and helicopters that stuff to where ever it may be needed and drops it. The american people think there's plenty of money, tho they aren't getting any of it. Mr Obama is getting an education on all of this right now, having things dropped in his lap, he had no idea of...catch the grey hairs popping out on his head? Ron Paul, decided he'd step back and let the younger crowd handle this transition. Yes, the country must be returned to constitutional gov, cut off in '33 and all will be returned to metal, but oohhh that transition ain't no joke. Watch what happens to clarence thomas over obama's birth certificate. You can't argue constitutional matters when you aren't using the constitution in the first place. How many have forgotten already, this boy got into office by the supreme court Not using the constitution to install him? Scalia, says, 'get over it'. Folks you better give your head a shake. This is my world and I understand it well.

The dragon extends all across this planet and they already own many central banks and as I have said, they aren't all asians. As I learned later, they didn't identify themselves as dragon clan family, when I was contacted, but were. These things come when you need to know so, a personal friend of mine, dropped all that on my lap, never letting me know before hand, when we were just palling around being fun buddies. "Ok my friend, I gotta tell you something that you need to know'. "oh sh....!"This is why I continually said, 'whatever has to happen, you'll get your money'. For godsake, even the queen of england is in the crosshairs. You just don't 'go dark' on these folks, they will 'remove' you one way or the other. The dragon is the 'watcher', the 'guardian' who makes sure this planet doesn't turn into the bad guys' desire.

I really don't think I need to write another of these newsletters because, finally all the right people got to my stage of 'pissed offedness'. I have no compunction at all at telling them, 'what'd I tell you???' Poofy ain't nobody's chump. Way too much suffering going on in this world and for what, so some sorry no heart, not gut pieces of bohemian dog mess can continue screwing with people's lives? Let 'em eat their own cake, bones and all...we have things to do which doesn't include their survival..which they know and has them in livid fear...yea tough guys...scared of ordinary people having enough funds to take a walk on your plans. No one needs you, how's that make you feel? Lonely? Good! There is a place prepared for you, where you can work thru your 'issues'. Look around, notice some people disappearing from your camp?

My people, I will help you where I can, but you have to be ready to see america go thru a change you may not believe is possible. It has to happen, this country has 'freedom' in the soil and it is rising up and a whole lot of people are going to be extremely discomfited at what will be put in their faces. The weeds must be burnt off before america goes back to what it was intended to be and that has just begun. Mr Obama has hard times before him but the dragon will help him thru it and so far are happy of many of the decisions he's already made. You'd better have a clinton inside the tent than on the outside, think about it. You just can't strip everything all at once, without chaos. So chill out and let the big job get done.

I can hear my dad from where ever he is right now, "I told you, what'd I tell you?? It would happen again, you can't trust these banks...believe me now???" Ok Pop, no doubt you were right. There goes Alley Oop.

Love and Kisses,

'Poofness'
Annie Oakley
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11/24/2008 11:35 AM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

I am feeling hopeful.
Yes. Indeed. hf
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11/24/2008 12:01 PM
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if u like(d) this thread please join

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11/24/2008 12:50 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Here is a different take of the way things are moving.
This is not written by me, and I cannot give a link as it is a no-no site:


Theresa, a good friend of mine (no, not the lady who runs STA!) wrote me this note yesterday. As I am hearing similar things from other people, I thought her question sufficiently interesting to post an edited version with my reply. Xavier Hermes

--------------------------
Theresa says:

'I just want to touch base with you and say that something peculiar is happening with my timelines. I know you of all people understand about this. It's as though one day my reality is heading in one direction then suddenly everything changes.

'So I couldn't go to Venice (her recent plan - XH) and had to do past-life clearing. I was then told I would not be going to Europe this year and needed to ground myself in Vancouver.

'Now this has all changed yet again and the energy is picking up for a trip to London.

'Have you been aware of this phenomenon lately? Rapidly moving timelines or probable realities?

'It's very intense.'
------------------------

My response:

I have the sense that the ascension process is proceeding in layers (or frequency bands) – and that different people are at different stages of the process, and therefore existing within those different layers. It seems that we have only just got to grips with the new contents of one layer (and thus things seem to be stabilising), when we get jetted on to the next one – which has a different set of assumptions, and a whole new set of challenges to go with them! So, the assimilation process for the new layer starts over yet again… as they say, the only thing you can rely upon now is constant change!

We can identify some of the timeline elements here. First, we have the old duality, with the ever more obvious collapsing of its old time structure (just as the Mayan calendar predicted). This time-line has pretty much gone completely now, so that the old duality is literally 'out of time'. It is only being held in place by the habits and inertia of many millions of people, a sort of unconscious retro-manifesting. The underlying structure is no longer there.

Then, we have a number of mini-timelines. Each ascension layer appears to have a kind of 'virtual timeline' to it, these being essentially transitional. Change the assumptions, and you change the timeline - and vice versa!

Finally, of course, there is an entirely New Reality shaping up, and this has been running alongside the old one for some time (I see the harmonic convergence in the 1990's as the two time structures aligning for the first time). This is the one that has for long been predicted and anticipated, that world teachers have spoken of, and as anticipated by the New Age movement. It is also the one that the old powers (TPTW) want to suppress and 'rubbish' through their negative spin, since they are deeply afraid of it. It is thanks to them that the perfectly proper and very exciting concept of a New Age has become tarnished in an effort to anti-manifest as people cease to believe in it.

But it is there, and steadily emerging anyway - despite TPTW's best (= most negative) efforts.

Essentially, the time structure for any reality contains its blueprint – so we have a dying old reality (frequency clustered around the 200 point on Dr David Hawkin's scale of consciousness), and an emerging new one (clustered around 700 on the same scale), these two running in parallel for the moment and built around vastly different blueprints. All the elements of planetary dysfunction we are currently observing will simply not be sustainable in the higher frequencies of the New Reality. Between the two there are these transitional frequency bands – and these elements are, to some extent, mini timelines.

We have the additional complexity that our own frequencies are now moving around a lot (often jumping around) on a daily basis, so we are frequently cutting across these mini or transitional timelines - we are effectively jumping from timeline to timeline as our own frequencies move up and down. A formula for personal confusion!

Finally, there are a plethora of potential timelines radiating out from the 700 point. I don't think the one that we will finally take has emerged as yet, so I think that individuals can venture into the beginning of some of the options as they rapidly evolve themselves. The characteristics of the New Reality timeline are, to a substantial extent, being defined by those who are at the higher levels of the mass consciousness, and their explorations of the timeline options are a part of this. The frequencies they are starting to hold also have a far greater entraining effect on the rest of us than the lower level frequencies we have lived within for so long.

All of the above means that there are many, many timeline options in play right now! And that we are moving around them - hence your experience.

By the way, I dowsed your place on the David Hawkins scale. We each inhabit a kind of bracket (i.e., highest and lowest) with an average which is determined by what percentage of our time we spend at the extremities. The yardstick is that humanity at large is averaging out at around 213 - it was 208 only a few weeks back, so escalating change of the mass consciousness! 700 is the 'onset of true higher consciousness (according to Hawkins). So, your 'bracket' indicates a fairly large spread: highest 704, low point 580 weighted average 619. I would put this as an indication that your own consciousness is pretty leading edge – you are running well ahead of the population in general (which of course you know), so it is no wonder to me that you are encountering the timeline phenomenon.

-----------------------------------

This last paragraph shows that Theresa is holding a remarkably high set of frequencies - and my dowsing-based research shows that the number of people doing so is increasing rapidly. When the average frequency for an individual moves above 700, they become a pillar, indeed, a primary creator, of the emerging New Reality and - at least from the standpoint of the now-dead old reality structure - they have finally gained enlightenment.

The exciting stages are now before us! Xavier Hermes
 Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783



thank you so much.

who wrote this? xavier?

thank her. and theresa too

this is what happened to me and i couldnt put it into words, i am gonna paste it to my other thread where i was waiting to explain what happened to me

thanks so much
love,
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11/24/2008 3:56 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Two words for anyone following this thread:

NASSIM HARAMEIN


Yes. I tried to listen to him, but I got lost middle of the first hour. But good stuff, what I could follow.
I will try again, as there have been pieces posted around that were fascinating.


May God strike me down if I'm lying (this deserves a thread by its own), but Haramein talks about how his physics (and he is in fact, a real deal physicst) has led him to describe the "geometry of the vaccum" (i.e. the geomety of the contractile side of the space-time manifold going to singularity ... whatever that means) and it is the EXACT SAME geomety as shown in various religion traditions.

In mine (Hinduism, it's the "Sri yantra": [link to images.google.com]

In the Chinese, the I-Ching

Judaism: the Tree of Life in the Kabala

(they're all the same geometry shown at different angles in 2-D instead of 3-D).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519307



ty for saying that, now i am interested

i found a video to watch later

[link to video.google.com]
Annie Oakley
User ID: 503783
11/24/2008 5:18 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Hi everyone! Glad for the company!
dots!
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11/24/2008 5:53 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Two words for anyone following this thread:

NASSIM HARAMEIN


Yes. I tried to listen to him, but I got lost middle of the first hour. But good stuff, what I could follow.
I will try again, as there have been pieces posted around that were fascinating.


May God strike me down if I'm lying (this deserves a thread by its own), but Haramein talks about how his physics (and he is in fact, a real deal physicst) has led him to describe the "geometry of the vaccum" (i.e. the geomety of the contractile side of the space-time manifold going to singularity ... whatever that means) and it is the EXACT SAME geomety as shown in various religion traditions.

In mine (Hinduism, it's the "Sri yantra": [link to images.google.com]

In the Chinese, the I-Ching

Judaism: the Tree of Life in the Kabala

(they're all the same geometry shown at different angles in 2-D instead of 3-D).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519307



im up to a dot within a dot to infinity

wow
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 548409
11/24/2008 5:54 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Hi everyone! Glad for the company!
 Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783


love you,
thanks for intro me to xavier hermes
OP
User ID: 558537
11/24/2008 9:36 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Hello

Some very interesting things have happened and I wanted to let you all know about them.

On November 17, a friend asked me if I felt the Earthquake that happened the night before.

[link to www.sandiego6.com]

I'm located in southern california right now.

Three days prior to this quake I received a series of numbers from the same people that did all the events on this thread and for me prior to this thread.

10 4 3 5 20

Look at the news article above to see the relationships.

That, alone, given all that has happened on this thread and before it, did not impress me that much. But then I did a little bit of study here:

neic.usgs.gov/neis/qed/

On October 29, evening, I flew to the Southern California region to scope it out with plans to temporarily move there. I stayed at a hotel. I woke up at 7:00 AM in the morning of October 30, and did some business in the morning up until about lunch. Then, I flew home and my plane arrived back at my house just after 12:00 midnight Eastern time.

Event, time, place. Magnitude is not relevant when those with the tech are simply trying to get your attention... and they did finally. It took me a while before I actually started to pay attention to the quakes, however.

If you scan through the government quake site I linked above, there are no significant clusters of mini-quakes in SoCal other than on October 30, when I just happened to fly into SoCal for some business. I then moved to SoCal a couple of weeks after that. I removed all but the 10 SoCal quakes from the list below for clarity.

2008/10/30 17:09:39 33.53N 116.57W 13 3.1 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008/10/30 06:49:38 33.06N 115.91W 2 3.3 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 2008/10/30 04:14:51 33.05N 115.90W 2 2.9 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008/10/30 04:09:20 33.06N 115.91W 3 2.8 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008/10/30 03:52:43 33.05N 115.90W 2 3.5 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 2008/10/30 03:49:45 33.05N 115.90W 1 3.6 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008/10/30 03:48:12 33.06N 115.90W 1 3.0 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008/10/30 03:27:38 33.06N 115.91W 1 3.2 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008/10/30 03:26:35 33.06N 115.91W 2 2.9 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008/10/30 03:01:11 33.06N 115.90W 2 2.9 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

Please note that times above are UTC, and UTC+4 hours = SoCal time.

Notice, at 7:01 AM the first quake of the day happens. That's when I woke up. Notice the cluster during the time that I was conducting my morning business.

Then, the best one, the last one of the day was at 17:09 UTC, or 21:09 SoCal time, or 12:09 Eastern Time which is the time zone in which my plane landed, at just about exactly 12:09, but I didn't write it down at the time so I'm not exactly sure about the minute.

My point is, they are still here. They obviously wanted me to post this here. So things are still active with this thread.

I am going to be in NYC, Central Park on November 29. I'm planning to meet someone (not related to this thread).

I'll let you know how that goes.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 558537
11/24/2008 11:30 PM
Re: The actual New World Order that is hereQuote

Hello

Some very interesting things have happened and I wanted to let you all know about them.

On November 17, a friend asked me if I felt the Earthquake that happened the night before.

[link to www.sandiego6.com]

I'm located in southern california right now.

Three days prior to this quake I received a series of numbers from the same people that did all the events on this thread and for me prior to this thread.

10 4 3 5 20

Look at the news article above to see the relationships.

That, alone, given all that has happened on this thread and before it, did not impress me that much. But then I did a little bit of study here:

neic.usgs.gov/neis/qed/

On October 29, evening, I flew to the Southern California region to scope it out with plans to temporarily move there. I stayed at a hotel. I woke up at 7:00 AM in the morning of October 30, and did some business in the morning up until about lunch. Then, I flew home and my plane arrived back at my house just after 12:00 midnight Eastern time.

Event, time, place. Magnitude is not relevant when those with the tech are simply trying to get your attention... and they did finally. It took me a while before I actually started to pay attention to the quakes, however.

If you scan through the government quake site I linked above, there are no significant clusters of mini-quakes in SoCal other than on October 30, when I just happened to fly into SoCal for some business. I then moved to SoCal a couple of weeks after that. I removed all but the 10 SoCal quakes from the list below for clarity.

2008/10/30 17:09:39 33.53N 116.57W 13 3.1 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008/10/30 06:49:38 33.06N 115.91W 2 3.3 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 2008/10/30 04:14:51 33.05N 115.90W 2 2.9 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008/10/30 04:09:20 33.06N 115.91W 3 2.8 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008/10/30 03:52:43 33.05N 115.90W 2 3.5 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 2008/10/30 03:49:45 33.05N 115.90W 1 3.6 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008/10/30 03:48:12 33.06N 115.90W 1 3.0 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008/10/30 03:27:38 33.06N 115.91W 1 3.2 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008/10/30 03:26:35 33.06N 115.91W 2 2.9 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008/10/30 03:01:11 33.06N 115.90W 2 2.9 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

Please note that times above are UTC, and UTC+4 hours = SoCal time.

Notice, at 7:01 AM the first quake of the day happens. That's when I woke up. Notice the cluster during the time that I was conducting my morning business.

Then, the best one, the last one of the day was at 17:09 UTC, or 21:09 SoCal time, or 12:09 Eastern Time which is the time zone in which my plane landed, at just about exactly 12:09, but I didn't write it down at the time so I'm not exactly sure about the minute.

My point is, they are still here. They obviously wanted me to post this here. So things are still active with this thread.

I am going to be in NYC, Central Park on November 29. I'm planning to meet someone (not related to this thread).

I'll let you know how that goes.
 Quoting: OP 558537



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