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The actual New World Order that is here

 
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yolgnu will either not develop the off limits technology or he will go to jail. Up to him.



I'm willing to die on my feet and just go on living on my knees.

Yolgnu.


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If anyone thinks that there will ever be true peace, love, compassion, hope, joy, Truth, abundance and any real quality of life as rewarded by The Most High God of the Universe for walking in His ways, whilst the satanic cabal are still in control then they are severely deluded.

'They' would rather destroy the entire planet than allow us to live as always intended By Most High God on this Eden...

They serve satan and the irony of it is, in order to be rewarded for their service to satan, 'they' have to praise The Most High God!!! After all, satan is the original and most evil 'insider trader'.....selling the secrets of Creation for material gain - for the price of a soul....

So even if many of us don't believe in God and satan, 'they' do.
 Quoting: Enufs Enuf 339212

OP stated that they will be in control only in the beginning. I see no problem with such scenario and in my point of view it would be good either for us and for them.
If you believe in God, why don`t you believe that such thing could happen?
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Could this all be the gradual manifestation of the "golden age"?

It won't take place overnight. It has to be a gradual shift. Maybe that's why the OP says that they have to be in control first.

I'm being optimistic here. Maybe some of the elite are changing their ways of thinking. Perhaps these shifting ideologies are like the yin and yang relationship of polarities. In each polarity, exists a little bit of the other. And perhaps we are seeing a shift happening. The yin part growing and overtaking the yang part or vice versa.

The question is, if some of the elite come forward and be "honest" and explain things, rewrite a real history of what really went on - could you forgive them? If we could not forgive them, how are they supposed to come forth. Will we be spiritually strong enough to forgive?

Can you see that they are possibly dependent on our forgiveness, and we are affected by whatever they do? We need to recognize that all things in this world are connected in one way or another.

Maybe the elite have finally understood that our current economic and financial system is also an illusion not only for us, but to them. Their apparent wealth is derived from the distance between the poor and wealthy. It's just an illusion. Perhaps some of them are beginning to realize that a society where everybody lives in abundance and input energy is free can be possible. Maybe there are seeds planted in their minds somehow that this is possible. Perhaps they need help from us.

They are just like us. Humans also. Hard to change their concrete ways, but if there is even a hint of wanting to change to a new paradigm; this hint could easily snowball into reality if support is given.

Forgiveness could possibly start a chain reaction leading to a new world order. Maybe we won't see a full blown technological free society in our time. Maybe our generation has the responsibility and spiritual fortitude to help transition from negative to positive polarity.

It isn't very hard to picture a free, honest, technologically inclined society - where cars are built to last forever and run on efficient green energy; every drop of resource used to its fullest potential.

The hard part is how to transition from the old to the new.
Perhaps using the "negative" mind control/nlp/mediabrainwash techniques and turning it "positive". Using those heavily researched psychosocial technologies to deprogram everybody and reprogram us with a more robust and open "operating system".

Sure, many of us are psychologically scarred from the negative paradigm. However, within us all we have the spiritual fortitude and intelligence to heal those scars.

Forgiveness:It's just a function within the grander matrix that sends fractal waves out to the universe, eventually bouncing back and affecting us in good ways.

Karma: Also one of these universal formulas.

Let us help each other usher in the Golden Age, not as Blacks, Whites, Asians, Men, Women, Elite, or Poor.. but as humans. We are destined for the stars. Let us fullfill our destiny.








Ok enough optimism for today, back to doom monitoring lolol
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It won't take place overnight. It has to be a gradual shift. Maybe that's why the OP says that they have to be in control first.
 Quoting: WhiteDragon 530066

Well that certainly coincides with several ancient prohecies.
And if ya put all the prophecies together (previous and including the current Bible), and let you'r mind formulate an outcome, well ............
I am NOT a human !!
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Forgiveness...

The best possible outcome is not to kill your enemies, but to have them come to your side as friends and allies.
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Forgiveness...

The best possible outcome is not to kill your enemies, but to have them come to your side as friends and allies.
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Then I am pretty damned screwed ... I don't have it IN me to be passive with someone trying to muster me up !! heh
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OP, to be honest half of me is scared of a technological paradigm. Would I be chipped into some vast network with my thoughts open to some controllers? As if in a hive? I do not wish for humanity to end up like the Borg of science fiction? We would no longer be individuals.

Could you explain more about this honest world order based on technology please? How would it be implemented? How do you envisage humanity being honest with one another after millenia of cheating, scheming and lying?

I have read Orwell`s 1984 and I don`t wish any part of that. You seem to be enamoured with this.
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I have read Orwell`s 1984 and I don`t wish any part of that.
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To a degree, you won't have any choice but to be a part of it. You are here, they are here.
I am NOT a human !!
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I don't know what the OP's vision of "technological paradigm" is but this is how i interpret it as:

Imagine a world where the pursuit of technology to benefit mankind is of utmost importance. In our society today, technology is secondary, profits and duty to shareholders is primary.

Imagine a world where free-energy is heavily researched and everybody has access to this free energy. Transportation technologies upraded to be almost no cost so we could experience this Earth that we will soon call the Garden of Eden.

Food Science would be engineered not to provide profits, but to provide health. (Monsanto turning into a good company?? no way!!! lol)

In this world however, spiritual/ethical/moral development would have to be very important so there is a low chance of abuse.

Once we reach a proper aggregate level of spiritual/ethical/moral development - we can usher in a technological paradise.

Perhaps this "technological" paradise won't look like what most people think of as "high tech" (Bladerunner type civilization, borgs, robots etc).

Perhaps this new "technology" means bringing back pyramid energy and technologies etc.

I don't think the OP means an Orwellian type civilization - but a free society based on technology to benefit all of mankind.
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I don't know what the OP's vision of "technological paradigm" is but this is how i interpret it as:

Imagine a world where the pursuit of technology to benefit mankind is of utmost importance. In our society today, technology is secondary, profits and duty to shareholders is primary.

Imagine a world where free-energy is heavily researched and everybody has access to this free energy. Transportation technologies upraded to be almost no cost so we could experience this Earth that we will soon call the Garden of Eden.

Food Science would be engineered not to provide profits, but to provide health. (Monsanto turning into a good company?? no way!!! lol)

In this world however, spiritual/ethical/moral development would have to be very important so there is a low chance of abuse.

Once we reach a proper aggregate level of spiritual/ethical/moral development - we can usher in a technological paradise.

Perhaps this "technological" paradise won't look like what most people think of as "high tech" (Bladerunner type civilization, borgs, robots etc).

Perhaps this new "technology" means bringing back pyramid energy and technologies etc.

I don't think the OP means an Orwellian type civilization - but a free society based on technology to benefit all of mankind.
 Quoting: WhiteDragon 530066

Yes, in such world there will be everything for everyone, including the current elite, so why not? And if everyone has everything, there will really be much less violence, less negativity and this should impact the people from the current elite either. It`s a win-win scenario, in my point of view.
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It`s a win-win scenario
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Until steps in man's obsession for control of men.
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It`s a win-win scenario

Until steps in man's obsession for control of men.
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Yea Tumbleweeds is right. The negative world we live in today is because of that. A person, or a group of people felt the urge to control. This started a cascade of events that led to what we call the "matrix" today. This idea fractalated into a system of control.

However, on the other side of things, the idea of a free society can also fractalate. It used to be 95%enslaved, 5%free.

Humanity as a whole is beginning to wake up, recognize the matrix, come to terms with it, and eventually usher in the golden age, tipping the ratios to 95%free, 5%enslavement.

Perhaps for a while, maybe for several thousand years, this free society will exist, until the 5%enslavement paradigm grows back to 95%.

Maybe this is the natural cycle of things.

Pretty exciting times to live in; ushering in the "Golden Age".
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Thank you, I understand now, and I`m glad to hear this, because this means that they are really not allmighty and they can`t go on with the deception, so they must either bring the change we need or destroy everything (And as you may`ve seen, 90% of the people here want either change or the total destruction, so looks like indeed the opposition of the world order is really huge and it can`t stay anymore).


What we do now may very well matter more than at any other time in history regarding the ancient ethnocentrism. Just be wise with every word because the matrix is still intact.
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Hey Agent/OP,

I'm really glad you chose to discuss this in this forum. Very, very smart. Plausible deniability in an arena where at least some of the people have the deductive and intellectual tools to have uncovered the truth, to varying degrees.

I've myself have been somewhat tracked by those in power, with heavy recruitment to top Chicago colleges from a very young age and some freakier incidents I won't go into. Believe it or not people, it doesn't matter to me.

However, my growing understanding of what was behind the veil made me constantly combative with authority, based on ethical and personal values and the fact that I have a really hard take shit from people.

Once I discovered Fulford, the complete picture fell into place. In fact, your mentioning of him was what pushed me over the edge concerning my belief in the truth of your statements. I mean, NO ONE gets an interview with David Rockefeller.

So, onto my suggestions and questions, which covers a few aspects:

1) World hunger: How will those in power and their corporate vehicles begin the logistical distribution of scientific and technological information, training, and equipment necessary to feed those who have virtually nothing? Perhaps converted military units (PLEASE do some sort of psychological testing for this, regarding the current state of militarism in the world) or perhaps a new world-encompassing Peace Corp style organization built around a consortium of the more altruistic groups falling under that category.

2) HAARP and related Tesla technology: When will we see HAARP and other similarly related facilities being used for their true intended purpose of tapping into the ionosphere for near unlimited power (an 8 hertz cycle if I am not mistaken)? Not to mention all associated applications, such as large scale MASER transfers of energy over vast distances (I'm thinking solar space arrays here).

On a related note, do you know if Einstein used some of Tesla's work to formulate his theories, as some have speculated?

3) The Pharmaceutical and Medical industry: Ok, this is a big one. How are you going to shift the industry's vice-like hold over cures in favor of more profitable and continuous treatments. Those in the know understand how far stem cells have come. They are even at the point where they understand that injections of stem cells into damaged and/or non-functioning organs shows dramatic improvement in organ capacity. I could go on and on, but my main concern is how do you drive an entire trillion dollar business in the opposite direction.

4) Finance and Monetary constructs: Ok, are we moving towards a precious metal based monetary system for stability (as it really is behind the scenes) in the near future? Once stability is established, what then?

Perhaps once everything of value is tallied, and debt are settled as much as they can be, given the hundreds of years of theft this Western cabal has perpetrated, we will be able to move toward a system whose sole goal in the accumulation of wealth at the expense of everything and everyone else.

Perhaps an interactive loan distribution system, similar to the peer to peer micro-lending phenomenon that has increased dramatically over the last couple of decades, but involving a range of choices for the depositor concerning where that money could be loaned. It could range from huge loans done in aggregates of tens of thousands of depositors, to individual loans of hundreds or thousands by a single depositor. The available offers could be even be displayed craigslist or google style for efficiency. Just imagine how low the overhead costs would be and the man hours that would be saved due to this crowdsourced solution. Not to mention it would help to eliminate the myopic isolation Wall Street workers of all levels suffer due to ego, disassociation, geography, and yes (wo)men.

If transparency is important in the new system, this could provide an ideal solution, once the system is hashed out.

5) Pollution and toxic clean-ups: What the hell are we going to do about all the trash in the oceans, waterways, and sky? Gigantic Texas-sized garbage patches in both the Atlantic and the Pacific are just the tip of the problem. Disintegrating particulates infest every ocean, and toxic emissions are being pumped right into giant population centers around the world. What incentives can we use to promote the necessary action? Maybe a huge x-prize style concept tied perhaps to both pollution tracking and the discussed revamped medical industry.

6) Militarism - Create a program to continuously decommission worthless huge projects still using antiquated technology, especially those using jet and combustion energy. I know who John Hutchinson is, and so should everyone else (your contacts will know what I mean if you don't).

Meanwhile, begin the transition of at least half the troops to work purely on foreign and internal infrastructures, educational facilities, etc.

7)Education - Remove standardized tests, pay teachers as much as professionals, and create programs that pay for University and/or graduate programs to retain the best and brightest for at least 6 years. Also, more workplaces need to incorporate integrated work schedules so experts in various fields can teach part-time. This could be done through tax-relief benefits for both the individual and the the companies they work for.

Also, we need to invested heavily in multi-lingual education, and exchange programs which focus on both language immersion AND technological/scientific training.

I have a ton more, and at the risk of spam, you can reach me at reedbecker(at)gmail.com, I'd love to discuss this without random inappropriate comments. I will definitely check this thread again tommorow.

peace - reed
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It`s a win-win scenario

Until steps in man's obsession for control of men.
 Quoting: Chases Tumbleweeds

You are wright, but to some point this obsession comes as a result of our system where some people could have nothing, other could have much and there`s no way everyone could have enough. If this changes, then the obsession for control will not be so wide-spreaded, especially when we consider the possitive vibration which would impact everyone, evil the most evil.
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Awesome post reed. Getting the ball rolling on the actual mechanics of transitioning.
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Awesome post reed. Getting the ball rolling on the actual mechanics of transitioning.
 Quoting: WhiteDragon


Thanks WhiteDragon,

I think outlets like this are the exact place for discussions like this to take place. Perhaps those in control are finally beginning to understand that humanity is growing out of its adolescence.

If everything works out without too much economic or physical violence, we really could be able to become what we were meant to be.

Personally, I am practically salivating at the enormous amount of scientific knowledge that may come out. Just imagine the knowledge and understanding our kids will have from the its long overdue release. These are incredibly exciting times, and we are lucky to be alive to witness it.
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Psalm 2

1 Why are the nations so angry?
Why do they waste their time with futile plans?
2 The kings of the earth prepare for battle;
the rulers plot together against the Lord
and against his anointed one.
3 “Let us break their chains,” they cry,
“and free ourselves from slavery to God.”
4 But the one who rules in heaven laughs.
The Lord scoffs at them.
5 Then in anger he rebukes them,
terrifying them with his fierce fury.
6 For the Lord declares, “I have placed my chosen king on the throne in Jerusalem,on my holy mountain.”
7 The king proclaims the Lord’s decree:
“The Lord said to me, ‘You are my son.
Today I have become your Father.
8 Only ask, and I will give you the nations as your inheritance, the whole earth as your possession.
9 You will break them with an iron rod
and smash them like clay pots.’”
10 Now then, you kings, act wisely!
Be warned, you rulers of the earth!
11 Serve the Lord with reverent fear,
and rejoice with trembling
.
12 Submit to God’s royal son, or he will become angry,
and you will be destroyed in the midst of all your activities — for his anger flares up in an instant.
But what joy for all who take refuge in him!
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We could be exploring the cosmos, together. We should rid ourselves of all of our religious conflicts, race issues, and economic problems. Our time is precious.

I believe we are ready for a complete change of society. I'd like to take a chance and see what we are able to achieve as a species, a combined effort.

Free exchange of information and educating ourselves should be some of our top priorities. And who doesn't desire peace when they are content?

We are the holders of this planet and we should know how to act. Who knows how much time all of us really have.
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People, please stop reading the bible as a log of true history...or the future..



Take some responsibility as a free-thinking human being and make up your own mind about reality. You can be even more creative than the people that wrote the bible, and you don't have to fear anyone, or ANYTHING for that matter. Life is so much more beautiful and interesting than what is written in those books that come from a tiny fraction of our past.
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4) Finance and Monetary constructs: Ok, are we moving towards a precious metal based monetary system for stability (as it really is behind the scenes) in the near future? Once stability is established, what then?

Perhaps once everything of value is tallied, and debt are settled as much as they can be, given the hundreds of years of theft this Western cabal has perpetrated, we will be able to move toward a system whose sole goal in the accumulation of wealth at the expense of everything and everyone else.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 529993


Sorry, I'm tired, should have been "... we will be able to move away from a system whose sole goal in the accumulation of wealth at the expense of everything and everyone else.

I have a ton more, and at the risk of spam, you can reach me at reedbecker(at)gmail.com, I'd love to discuss this without random inappropriate comments. I will definitely check this thread again tommorow.

peace - reed
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Mispelled tommorrow.

Sorry for the bad grammar, I'm use to the grammar Nazis on reddit, so I am just trying to preempt such an occurrence.

peace - reed
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I think the OP started with having an understanding that they could Kill many people with the push of a button.

I think as a starting point we could all agree that this is a distinct possibility if not an absolute realiy.

Reed that was great post by the way.

If there is a shift in consciousness of those elite and the so called commoners it would be concievable to have a one world government that for once is focused on assisting humanity rather than selfish persuits.

Not allowing countries or individuals to make or have weapons of mass destruction sounds good to me.

I have always thought that the governments of the world had advanced technologies that if used for the common man could tranform our world. Whether they be from reverse engineering or earth based inventions.

An evential understanding of the oneness of life seems like it would have be one of the shifts in consciousness that would be neccessary.

Forgiveness for ourself and others as one poster mentioned would go a long way in bringing this type of world to reality.

Now it comes down to trusting. I think if the so called elites really got up as a group as told the plain truth about much of the history of the past 200 years it could go a long way toward fostering trust.

So it looks like it all come down to elites taking the first step. Fessing up as it were.

As far as China and Japan putting pressure on the elites for misdeeds thats a little like the pot calling the kettle black. but whatever works. S&S
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oh, I dó have one question

what's all the stuff about 'death' if people make/use 'illegal' technology in that NWO of yours. What do you see as a problem with dying, to think people can be threatened with that?
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I don't know what the exact penalties will be for people who attempt development of the technology.

I think it will be such a small percentage of people that death would not be necessary. Probably just imprisonment...

But if it's an entire society; like a nation, that rebels and decides they have a right to develop the technology and they use physical force to keep people out from inspecting etc...game over. Such things won't be allowed and many will likely die in the process of setting them straight.

Unfortunately, many people are still brainwashed with ancient religions and, as such, they will not consider dangerous technology to be the most significant thing during this life and they will rather think that the "after life" is the most significant thing. Such people are insane and will be treated as such. If they can believe their fantasy and heed the technology paradigm, it's fine.
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Very interesting thread OP.
Not real certain just what you're looking for. Here's some stuff I wrote in this forum back in 2003.
Maybe help you. Hopefull possible future stuff.

K



Well, I have enough Good Things planned to do if a change happens, that there's no room for fear.
I've been thinking about what I would like to do in the event we all of a sudden have the power to instantly Manifest.
So many things...

I'll meet my first car again. '67 Chevelle S.S.. It'll be reincarnated and pristine.
Gonna re-do the thrill of mighty, rumbling horsepower. Peeling out and driving fast. Open road with no worries.
Materialism, when kept in perspaective, can be a really wonderful thing.

I'm gonna be able to breathe underwater. Visit the Dolphins. Be a member of a family of them. Although the info has been mostly suppresed, I understand they're very... sensually playful. Should be a real trip.

Though Spiders usually inspire a bit of fear, I think they're some of the most beautiful creatures on the Planet. I want some big ones as pets/companions. Spinning webs filled with colors like stained glass.

Everyone I meet will be on the same "wavelength". Everybody will feel like best friends, even if they never met before.

Home will be the entire Planet. When traveling alone, or with companions, there will be no need to "return" anywhere. Wherever you are, whenever you feel the need, create anything from a rustic cabin to a Crystal Palace. Or even a hi-rise skyscraper, to spend the night.
Home is wherever you are, when you can instantly create whatever you want/need.

Friends and Lovers. There will never be "hard feelings". With absolute freedom, comes the ability to be very "fluid" in relationships. When EVERYONE'S absolutely COOL, then finding people you like hanging out with is very easy.
When ALL are "Soul Mates", then everyone understands on a deeper level.
Hang out with someone for an hour. A week. Years. Maybe until the Paths diverge. And then it'll be "Wow. this has been really excellent. Thank you so much. I'm gonna' check out what's over there. Love you and I'll see you again..." And the other person feels exactly the same way.
Unwanted pregnancies will be impossible.
No diseases or sickness.
Everyone's Beautiful!!

Yeah. I think I'm gonna' have a busy enough schedule that fear isn't even going to be a "thing".

MADNESS?!?! HAHA!!!



My My what a crew, some no older than two!
As proved by their ceaseless distractions
And some they do say, Oh Please Go Away
You Just Don't Understand The Connactions!

But many do soar, above the rumours of war
To create a new world oh so mellow
They look up to the sky, with the inner third eye
And eat the white sun. Was it yellow?

A year has gone by, since this Tale of the Skry
did begin in an Emperor's mind
The wonders await, they who meditate
Soon they'll be with the rest of their Kind.
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Some of these things are in the realm of possible life if the honest world order succeeds.
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They have had a weapon that is capable of fireing Once in a room and the discharge will Decentagrate any living thing and Reduice it to like 1/1000 of it's origanal body weight. And the device I am refering to is Hand Held So think of what a Truck mounted one Might be Capable of.

Also of Note is that Tesla atempted to Light up South Poll for admiral Bird and wound up Destroying a Large Area in USSR.

So what Might Our Gvt hav done with That type of science.

These are Jusst a couple of Things I Know for Certian Do EXIST.

In truth there is Only one Way this will work out for the World and that OP is for GOD's Potentate to Come into His Manefested Glory and Take Total Control of the Tech. Paradigm as He is God's SUPPER COMPUTER and When HE Turns ON and Glowes he TAKES Total Control of this Space/Time and ALL Digital Equipment(Just so you Know OP in July 1997 a Glimps of the Power of the Ones Mind/Brain was dimenstrated with tera bites of data that Included The Pictures of Mars that NASA Claimed they took with lander units that they were given the plans of and they built and proced to land them on Mars in like what 2002 or was it 2003 And Also sent 5 tornadeos to 5 Citys picked by a Person who Knows who they are.)

Have Fun.
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I don't know about "god's supercomputer." There is certainly AI out there and it is quite beyond anything we have been told of.

People can bourgeon out technology anywhere, anytime. Just like a plant can grow from a seed in a crack of a rock. This bourgeoning is the problem that must be controlled. AI's can certainly monitor what people do. They can monitor for any signs of dangerous tech development. But the Honest world order causes every person to also monitor themselves on this one most important issue of developing dangerous technology.

We have to think about quality of life being a person, and making a safe world given the technology paradigm. If a totalitarian computer had total control…come on. I’ve seen way too many movies where that doesn’t turn out good. It would certainly exterminate us all. Not a good idea.

The five tornadoes in five cities is a realistic way of how the elite communicate with agents they wish to "activate" or harvest ideas from. That is along the same lines of my situation but mine is not exactly the same, of course. In my case they did a series of about 5 different and amazing things to show their abilities. The first thing was steering a hurricane in an exact way I asked for that left 0% doubt that it was intentional.
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OP. Have you become aware of, or been in contact with, the Telepathic Class ?
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10/19/2008 11:41 AM
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Re: The actual New World Order that is here
Could this all be the gradual manifestation of the "golden age"?

It won't take place overnight. It has to be a gradual shift. Maybe that's why the OP says that they have to be in control first.

I'm being optimistic here. Maybe some of the elite are changing their ways of thinking. Perhaps these shifting ideologies are like the yin and yang relationship of polarities. In each polarity, exists a little bit of the other. And perhaps we are seeing a shift happening. The yin part growing and overtaking the yang part or vice versa.

The question is, if some of the elite come forward and be "honest" and explain things, rewrite a real history of what really went on - could you forgive them? If we could not forgive them, how are they supposed to come forth. Will we be spiritually strong enough to forgive?

Can you see that they are possibly dependent on our forgiveness, and we are affected by whatever they do? We need to recognize that all things in this world are connected in one way or another.

Maybe the elite have finally understood that our current economic and financial system is also an illusion not only for us, but to them. Their apparent wealth is derived from the distance between the poor and wealthy. It's just an illusion. Perhaps some of them are beginning to realize that a society where everybody lives in abundance and input energy is free can be possible. Maybe there are seeds planted in their minds somehow that this is possible. Perhaps they need help from us.

They are just like us. Humans also. Hard to change their concrete ways, but if there is even a hint of wanting to change to a new paradigm; this hint could easily snowball into reality if support is given.

Forgiveness could possibly start a chain reaction leading to a new world order. Maybe we won't see a full blown technological free society in our time. Maybe our generation has the responsibility and spiritual fortitude to help transition from negative to positive polarity.

It isn't very hard to picture a free, honest, technologically inclined society - where cars are built to last forever and run on efficient green energy; every drop of resource used to its fullest potential.

The hard part is how to transition from the old to the new.
Perhaps using the "negative" mind control/nlp/mediabrainwash techniques and turning it "positive". Using those heavily researched psychosocial technologies to deprogram everybody and reprogram us with a more robust and open "operating system".

Sure, many of us are psychologically scarred from the negative paradigm. However, within us all we have the spiritual fortitude and intelligence to heal those scars.

Forgiveness:It's just a function within the grander matrix that sends fractal waves out to the universe, eventually bouncing back and affecting us in good ways.

Karma: Also one of these universal formulas.

Let us help each other usher in the Golden Age, not as Blacks, Whites, Asians, Men, Women, Elite, or Poor.. but as humans. We are destined for the stars. Let us fullfill our destiny.


Ok enough optimism for today, back to doom monitoring lolol
 Quoting: WhiteDragon 530066



I planted some of those seeds after 911 directly into the minds of the elite. I don't know to what extent I contributed to the decisions that have happened, again it may be small, nearly nothing, or more significant...

The concept of "human" is also brainwashing. Think of us as people. The old system of deception involved using generated conflicts between groups as the problem and homogenizing humanity into “one” as a continuous solution. That is not necessary in the new system. You’ve been highly brainwashed on this topic and I’m going to type something now that deprograms you very simply. All DNA branches like a tree. We can bind the branches of the tree with a rope, with propaganda, and force all human diversity into "one," thus destroying diversity. Or we can allow DNA to be free, to branch and diversify with nature. The new system is all about honesty and freedom, thus Japan can remain Japanese etc… same throughout the world.
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10/19/2008 11:42 AM
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Re: The actual New World Order that is here
The heart is a bloom, shoots up through the stony ground
There's no room, no space to rent in this town
You're out of luck and the reason that you had to care,
The traffic is stuck and you're not moving anywhere.
You thought you'd found a friend to take you out of this place
Someone you could lend a hand in return for grace

It's a beautiful day, the sky falls
Abd you feel like it's a beautiful day
Don't let it get away

You're on the road but you've got no destination
You're in the mud, in the maze of her imagination
You love this town even if that doesn't ring true
You've been all over and it's been all over you

It's a beautiful day
Don't let it get away
It's a beautiful day
Don't let it get away

Touch me, take me to that other place
Teach me, I know I'm not a hopeless case

See the world in green and blue
See China right in front of you
See the canyons broken by cloud
See the tuna fleets clearing the sea out
See the Bedouin fires at night
See the oil fields at first light
And see the bird with a leaf in her mouth
After the flood all the colors came out

It was a beautiful day
Beautiful day
Don't let it get away

Touch me, take me to that other place
Reach me, I know I'm not a hopeless case

What you don't have you don't need it now
What you don't know you can feel it somehow
What you don't have you don't need it now
You don't need it now, you don't need it now

Beautiful day
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10/19/2008 11:44 AM
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Re: The actual New World Order that is here
OP, to be honest half of me is scared of a technological paradigm. Would I be chipped into some vast network with my thoughts open to some controllers? As if in a hive? I do not wish for humanity to end up like the Borg of science fiction? We would no longer be individuals.

Could you explain more about this honest world order based on technology please? How would it be implemented? How do you envisage humanity being honest with one another after millenia of cheating, scheming and lying?

I have read Orwell`s 1984 and I don`t wish any part of that. You seem to be enamoured with this.
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The world you are talking about would be the world of deception in it's full manifestation.

The honest world order is the other way we can do it. It's a much more beautiful world order and the elite like beauty.
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10/19/2008 11:48 AM
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I don't know what the OP's vision of "technological paradigm" is but this is how i interpret it as:

Imagine a world where the pursuit of technology to benefit mankind is of utmost importance. In our society today, technology is secondary, profits and duty to shareholders is primary.

Imagine a world where free-energy is heavily researched and everybody has access to this free energy. Transportation technologies upraded to be almost no cost so we could experience this Earth that we will soon call the Garden of Eden.

Food Science would be engineered not to provide profits, but to provide health. (Monsanto turning into a good company?? no way!!! lol)

In this world however, spiritual/ethical/moral development would have to be very important so there is a low chance of abuse.

Once we reach a proper aggregate level of spiritual/ethical/moral development - we can usher in a technological paradise.

Perhaps this "technological" paradise won't look like what most people think of as "high tech" (Bladerunner type civilization, borgs, robots etc).

Perhaps this new "technology" means bringing back pyramid energy and technologies etc.

I don't think the OP means an Orwellian type civilization - but a free society based on technology to benefit all of mankind.
 Quoting: WhiteDragon 530066



Things you are saying here are reasonably accurate. The deceptive world order required greed as a foundation.
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10/19/2008 11:51 AM
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Yes, in such world there will be everything for everyone, including the current elite, so why not? And if everyone has everything, there will really be much less violence, less negativity and this should impact the people from the current elite either. It`s a win-win scenario, in my point of view.
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This is the essence of why the honest world order has lower probability of doomsday than the deceptive world order.

The deceptors must exert a lot of energy to maintain deception.

In an honest world order that is not the case, but there are still deadly serious rules regarding developing the dangerous technology.
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10/19/2008 11:54 AM
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Re: The actual New World Order that is here
You guys can act as soft agents for the honest world order. You have not been directly communicated to as I have, true, but you can understand the truth of what I am saying.

I have given you much of that knowledge here. Just relax, think clearly, and simply spread it along.

It will happen if people relax about it, and just move it forward at all levels of society.

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