The actual New World Order that is here

as long as you don't develop the off limits technogy, you can believe what you want.

You talk about old to new order. You talk about the new honest order.
That does not compute as you are simply replacing one set of rules for another.
The perpetrators behind the old order were always dishonest and deceitful or just plain evil to be blunt. Changing from ethnocentricism to technology paradigm (as you put it), while sounding like impressive concepts to the gullible, amounts to a new name for the scales on the same creature. These are and never were the scales of Divine Justice or Divine Law. No matter which way you manipulate the virtual picture to change the attention of the viewer, unless you follow Divine Universal Law and the Law Of Love, you are merely posturing and trying another angle of deception. I see that poster Yolgnu is one of the few here that actually got the concept that you are offering with your technology and it’s darker implications.

The clue to the complete invalidity of this concept is that you mention Bush and this summit and how they (the so-called elite…actually mafia style gangsters and soulless sock puppets) would have some bearing on the outcome as to their decision to use their weapons of human and earthly destruction or not. They will have no decision in the reality that is approaching and you are obviously not in that loop.
The Real New World that is approaching is not of the order that you and your fellows are talking about and no matter how much you try and cloak your new order in the guise of good and non-destructive vs. the old you are sadly mistaken. The very word ‘order’ in the new world denotes hierarchy and control by an elite and as with the past an unseen hand in the puppets. Nothing will change in this fake new world order except the technology and the outward appearance of some things. With the technology comes even greater deception and the ability to control and remove those that do not fit into this new world tech paradigm with absolute ease. The word honesty is just a word that means nothing without actual intent. Look at all the ‘honest’ politicians that were voted in, not to mention all the ‘honest’ religious leaders leading their flock astray.
Hand on the bible and all that.

You use the word elite a lot and talk a lot about secret meetings for the few to decide the outcomes of the many. Manipulating the fate of the many Good Souls of this world.
The real New World Creation that is coming I am pleased to inform you does not include any participation from Bush and his summits and secret bilderberger meetings, Council on Foreign Relations, Tri-Lateral Commission, world banks and all the other secret elite sponsored and controlled societies. It also does not include contribution or participation from the unseen hands and your secretive superiors that think they are in control of the reigns. The Reign is Over. The concept of elite is over.

To put it into basic terms – compare what you are talking about changing 1 to 2 is the same as the plan with the financial system. Use a fake and self serving (to a few) enslaving system and push it to the limits that you can before it starts to crack or fold in on itself and people start to get wise to the deception en masse, then play the good guys and step in to replace this evil fragmented system with another bigger consolidated evil world system that is even more controlled and devious than before using this technology that you speak of. All you are taking about really is damage control and final implementation of the same scam.

You (OP) say something similar to Fulford in that the elites like R’child and Rck’feller will not lose everything and will be as happy with the new system as with the old – a win win situation as f’ford says. WRONG. Good Souls/Power of the People of the same source Creator WIN and the others LOSE i.e dig their own graves/tombs as they have been doing for millennia. You say that they can kill everyone at the push of a button. You are wrong. They will not be allowed to play out any of these fantasies. The fact that you mention it shows the intent in you to provide fear and a thinly veiled warning. If they try it, it will become a big eye opener as to who really controls these realms.

By The Divine Will and Law the GAME IS OVER - there is no more re-designing and changing around of the pawns and puppets in the same drama to suit – as with the US elections. There will be no more place in the New World for elites and bloodline preference and chosen ones and hierarchical control systems of one group over another whether based on ethnicity or simply technological power.
ALL BULLSHIT.
ALL GOING TO CHANGE.

One last thing to the OP – you seem to have been very impressed with this simple display of steering a hurricane. That is very simplistic and rather old. Would you be even more impressed by an earthquake or other much more impressive celestial events? This is just a tip of the iceberg in terms of the magic tricks available to the real players (not you). That means that we are living in a world run secretly by magicians or so it would appear to most people.
That also means that words and concepts based on politics and technological agreements on weapons systems and dooms day devices is completely and fully INVALID.
The power behind the powers that wanted to be is being removed. That is the only real solution. The surface superficial solutions are just microcosmic specs of nonsense in the big picture no matter how you twist it with the manipulation of language and concepts to try and make it manifest in the mass consciousness. That is why your theories are invalid as they still hide the truth about who is really the unseen controlling power.
Without that in the open everything else is invalid.

As with the huge promising (lying) political speeches before elections. It all amounts to absolutely NOTHING once the decisions have been made out of the ears of the lowly masses and the Power of the People has been deferred to the power of the black magicians.
Screw the new world order. It’s simply a NEW WORD ORDER. Yes ‘word’ order. Deception by words (and technology).
The new world odour stinks. You can keep it.

There is a much more beautiful and Divinely Just future awaiting, that is simply a return to spiritual awareness and what we once were and Really Are before the dark ones stepped in with their agenda.
ALL CHANGE NOW.

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OP stated that they will be in control only in the beginning. I see no problem with such scenario and in my point of view it would be good either for us and for them.
If you believe in God, why don`t you believe that such thing could happen?

When will they stop poisoning our food, water, & vaccines?

Could this all be the gradual manifestation of the "golden age"?

It won't take place overnight. It has to be a gradual shift. Maybe that's why the OP says that they have to be in control first.

I'm being optimistic here. Maybe some of the elite are changing their ways of thinking. Perhaps these shifting ideologies are like the yin and yang relationship of polarities. In each polarity, exists a little bit of the other. And perhaps we are seeing a shift happening. The yin part growing and overtaking the yang part or vice versa.

The question is, if some of the elite come forward and be "honest" and explain things, rewrite a real history of what really went on - could you forgive them? If we could not forgive them, how are they supposed to come forth. Will we be spiritually strong enough to forgive?

Can you see that they are possibly dependent on our forgiveness, and we are affected by whatever they do? We need to recognize that all things in this world are connected in one way or another.

Maybe the elite have finally understood that our current economic and financial system is also an illusion not only for us, but to them. Their apparent wealth is derived from the distance between the poor and wealthy. It's just an illusion. Perhaps some of them are beginning to realize that a society where everybody lives in abundance and input energy is free can be possible. Maybe there are seeds planted in their minds somehow that this is possible. Perhaps they need help from us.

They are just like us. Humans also. Hard to change their concrete ways, but if there is even a hint of wanting to change to a new paradigm; this hint could easily snowball into reality if support is given.

Forgiveness could possibly start a chain reaction leading to a new world order. Maybe we won't see a full blown technological free society in our time. Maybe our generation has the responsibility and spiritual fortitude to help transition from negative to positive polarity.

It isn't very hard to picture a free, honest, technologically inclined society - where cars are built to last forever and run on efficient green energy; every drop of resource used to its fullest potential.

The hard part is how to transition from the old to the new.
Perhaps using the "negative" mind control/nlp/mediabrainwash techniques and turning it "positive". Using those heavily researched psychosocial technologies to deprogram everybody and reprogram us with a more robust and open "operating system".

Sure, many of us are psychologically scarred from the negative paradigm. However, within us all we have the spiritual fortitude and intelligence to heal those scars.

Forgiveness:It's just a function within the grander matrix that sends fractal waves out to the universe, eventually bouncing back and affecting us in good ways.

Karma: Also one of these universal formulas.

Let us help each other usher in the Golden Age, not as Blacks, Whites, Asians, Men, Women, Elite, or Poor.. but as humans. We are destined for the stars. Let us fullfill our destiny.








Ok enough optimism for today, back to doom monitoring lolol

When will they stop poisoning our food, water, & vaccines?


When you decide you are immune to their poisons and manage to convince all of your kind that this is the case. That, or you need to personally remove the scum responsible for this (hint: they are motivated by profit, which forms the basis of their value structures), or get others better suited to such things to do that for you.

I would personally counsel against leaving a single one of them alive. I've already kindly and courteously asked them to blow themselves, and all of us, up. However, I do not doubt that in such an endeavour, as in nearly every other one of consequence they have ever attempted, they will fail abysmally yet try to cover up their mistakes and simultaneously portray themselves as towering paragons of strength and competence if not perhaps virtue (they do at least have some degree of honesty, and self-awareness too even, to give credit where it is due).

Soza.

I must agree.

A repackaged NWO is still control and will still limit the human potential. I say let us plunge into chaos, and see what beauty springs from it!

It`s a win-win scenario

Until steps in man's obsession for control of men.

will the chains that bound hemp from being used to save the planet be broken by the "honest" new world?

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3) The Pharmaceutical and Medical industry: Ok, this is a big one. How are you going to shift the industry's vice-like hold over cures in favor of more profitable and continuous treatments. Those in the know understand how far stem cells have come. They are even at the point where they understand that injections of stem cells into damaged and/or non-functioning organs shows dramatic improvement in organ capacity. I could go on and on, but my main concern is how do you drive an entire trillion dollar business in the opposite direction.

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Hello OP,

I am glad to see that you maintain a good taste in cheap comestibles. I prefer expensive foreign restaurants myself, but that is because I am a debonnaire show-off who must maintain illusory fronts for my drug-dealing personnel, whihc is the quite immoral means by which I finance my extended sojourn in luxury for the past... many years.

It is a quite useful thread you have got here. Tell me, would YOU like to live like a sheep in the New World Order? If not, can you advocate and work for the implementation of such a system in good conscience and still sleep with yourself at night?

Warm Regards,
Soza.

STOP IT WITH YOUR HATRED!

THERE MAY BE THINGS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!

let me give you a what if.

Hey OP,

Not sure what to think of your posts yet but this is an intriguing thread nonetheless.

A question on what you meant by "powerful selves"...

I think I know what you are referring to, judging by your philosophical job title. Does it have something to do with the field of psionics? Something like an amplification of abilities after the control system is lifted?

I've dabbled with those sorts of things but always seemed to hit a roadblock where I could progress no more.

Are my presumptions close?

1. i think what op is saying is if all the people sign onto the idea of a new world order that would snuff out the bad one that was planned, that people would be relieved and go about more natural human living... within about 20-40 years the world could be very pleasant place to live


2. i maintain, however, that we gotta let God help us, bring Him into it so He can weave His Kingdom into it, He also had plans for a new heaven and new earth.

3. i will tell you all this, that God is behind what the OP is talking about

will the chains that bound hemp from being used to save the planet be broken by the "honest" new world?


I don't think about things like that. All things that are genuinely healthy will proceed along, of course. I don't and never will smoke anything.

I find your conclusion on this matter to be poorly researched and premature OP. I suggest a more thorough grounding in metaphysics prior to espousing on topics you know little of.

Of course, if I might interest you in taking the scientific approach to attaining reliable and confirmed knowledge on this topic then I would highly recommend that you arouse your masters' curiosity and desire in that direction also. This would, after all, be a true service to humanity. We could doubtless arrange reports on the matter in scientific journals and settle the question once and for all on the basis of repitively confirmed results all saying the same thing.

In the case of your master, and possibly you, as things stand, I am happy to inform you that I think you are wholly right, as I did previously state in fact. However, that is mere opinion which, I will reaffirm, is weak compared to scientifically verified fact. Thus, the experiments on this do need to be performed, and on the stated control group also, for results may well be different if other sections of the population were used to attempt to satisfy a curiosity and longing for true knowledge which does, in fact, source out of people who are not in the majority and whose souls are wholly different to those of the majority, in the sense that they do not have such, and thus cannot be inclined to believe in them, which, again, I repeat, is not scientifically verfied fact.

Have you heard the old M*A*S*H* theme song btw?

Regards,
Soza.

I am afraid OP is ignoring me because I do not exist. This is sad, as he will find later on in his life that he is a fool who may well have lived longer if he had heeded advice on a healthy lifestyle and making associations with the right sorts of people, as opposed to the sort who are highly likely to use you and then discard you to some combat or other where you meet an untimely end. However, we are all free to choose our own employers, even if we do so in bad taste and poor judgement.

Of course, a hope for freedom may yet linger in his soul, and thus we should (not) unduly conclude that he is merely a dumb schmuck serving faceless grey-suited masters in the NSA or some such minor agency.

Master Soza.

as long as you don't develop the off limits technogy, you can believe what you want.



But can we say it?

I don't think so. Therefore this "honest" world "order" is phony.

Well, thank-you for the reply youngster! If you could enlighten me on the following point:

The Doomsday tech already exists, yes? Even on the basis of nuclear weapons alone, though it would take many of them, this world has on her surface enough firepower to take herself out. We do, of course, presume that the foreigners who control the buttons to such things are highly responsible individuals who would never use it to harm others or the world at large for their own profit or, more likely, other reasons. It is of course ludicrous to believe that all, or nearly all, rich and influential people globally are mostly on the same side and joined at the hip in a lattice of interconnecting groups and societies.

Thus, the question is: what difference would it make if yet another group, or some other non-aligned faction also got their hot little hands on similar tech?

Soza.

will the chains that bound hemp from being used to save the planet be broken by the "honest" new world?


I don't think about things like that. All things that are genuinely healthy will proceed along, of course. I don't and never will smoke anything.


i never mentioned anything about smoking it. it can be used for fuel and to replenish nutrients back into the earth among a long list of other goodies. that's what i'm talking about.

How will the old regime be happy?

Are you saying that the so called "elite" is going to put away their centuries old plan called "The Great Work" so that we can start living "honestly"?

Do you know how far fetched this sounds?

Role-playing still? Why this shit even exists is beyond me.

Op what is your thought on CERN? Just curious.