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The Wingmakers Material is real!

 
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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Be careful, people. Wingmakers is nothing but a money-making scam.
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All of the info is available for free at [link to www.wingmakers.com] ?

If you WANT to buy a CD or print of Artwork you can but is all FREE at the site so try again with your debunking
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By design, Wingmakers material will NOT harmonize with close hearts and minds.

That all is to it.
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Indeed!
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REAL
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Fifteen?..............Hmmmm
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I was very much into it at the time when I read all of it; I looked at every painting and read all the interviews and listened to all the music, and read the philosophies. My memory is a bit foggy but I remember reading about Neruda talking about a malevolent machine race of extra-terrestrials. You've gotta open your mind -- not to some unverifiable prophecy from the internet--but to the actual reality in which you live. Unfortunately, there is no credibility behind the WingMakers material, and for this reason it will never be anything more than a good, imaginative story with interesting philosophy. There are plenty of other websites that claim to know about ET beings and claim to know the Ultimate Truth about the Universe but none of them are true, I promise you that.

There are plenty of things that don't make sense; one example is the idea that there are 7 universes that revolve around a central super-universe where the Creator lives. This just doesn't resonate with me. Wingmakers is just another person trying to take advantage of the spiritual hype for 2012. If you support his story then buy some of his CD's/paintings from the convenient online store. Not trying to be an asshole, just pointing it out so that the people who fall for this kind of stuff don't get sucked in to spending money to support someone who claims to know what the future will hold and things like that.




Just to give some of you on GLP an idea of WM:

"On the fringe of the central universe resides the Central Race, which contain the original human DNA template of creation. However, they are such an ancient race that they appear to us as Gods, when indeed they represent our future selves. Time and space are the only variables of distinction. The Central Race is known to some as the creator gods who developed the primal template of the human species and then, working in conjunction with the Life Carriers, seeded the galaxies as the universes expanded. Each of the seven superuniverses has a distinctive purpose and relationship with the central universe via the Central Race based on how the Central Race experimented with the DNA to achieve distinct, but compatible physical embodiments to be soul carriers."
 Quoting: ViperThunder


The 7 superuniverses and the central area are identical to the Urantia presentation of the cosmos.
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10/19/2008 11:15 PM
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Lmao, what a fat pile of steaming shit. Scammers will always be around, there's a sucker born every day. Yeah, go purchase their prints and go to their seminar, lol. It was created by an unemployed artist who couldn't get anyone to buy his work.
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10/20/2008 12:15 AM
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Lmao, what a fat pile of steaming shit. Scammers will always be around, there's a sucker born every day. Yeah, go purchase their prints and go to their seminar, lol. It was created by an unemployed artist who couldn't get anyone to buy his work.
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Sorry you are so miss-infomed
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Be careful, people. Wingmakers is nothing but a money-making scam.


All of the info is available for free at [link to www.wingmakers.com] ?

If you WANT to buy a CD or print of Artwork you can but is all FREE at the site so try again with your debunking
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Thanks OP, I had been hearing to focus on the Wingmakers information and QUIT even being disturbed by the NWO antics about to throw us off.

I had interesting visible at remte locations results using the event temples focus.

I believe you should focus on Fajada Butte in Chaco Canyon they closed off to the public saying their foot vibrations might throw off the Sun Dagger which timed with the discovery of it opening up into the 23 rooms.You have to be a certain vibration of spirit/IQ/Pleiadean connection and the rock just morphs away into the rooms...the Butte is a facade of sorts...quite real but especially with certain astronomical alignments easy to ripple its opening where the Sun Dagger is...I went there for the Grand Alignment of 99 in August as the same ETs had contacted me I had to go there for August 11,99 who came through or interdimensionally interacted with me from early childhood who LERMed themselves down to Earth who center in Alcyone in the Pleiades as Wiji's (pronounced wee-gee's) saying they came through to build the time capsule and LERMed themselves as small Native American humanoids/humans to interface at the village of Wijiji.You can stargate really easily changing dimensions inside the rooms as they interact and get you tuned up.Something is for sure happening at the Fajada Butte Sun Dagger as in 99 it was TEAMING with NSA high tech humvee unmarked white vehicles and activity. When I got there I even found there was an actual Village of Wijiji and the doors were quite small just like these ETs morphed humans who are actually humans from our future using the stargating time travelling techniques where you open a screen room, make yourself or group who you want to be and jump into them across time.It's sort of how you bilocate or teleport into a virtual world you create video game of earth time line.Mark Roberts of Stargate the Real One was up there on this 8-11-99 event as I got the internet later and found out it was even on the internet slightly changed. The Wiji's had told me he had been there at the top then and when I asked him he confirmed this years later when we were in touch. He said had they known I had BEEN contacted to come to my rooms they would have let me come up, but I do not know. It seems the NSA and teams were all ego heads and out to keep out any true central race contactees who hale from Alcyone in the Pleiades.There were 5 of us who had all been contacted and compelled to come and had known for two years before we had to be there in August of 99.They had guards following us to make sure we did NOT go up on the Butte.
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About 3 years ago I purchased the wingmakers info pack from Nexus magazine, I gave it to a friend who read all the info. That night he had a dream where he was shown the exact winning scores of a big rugby game coming up. He bet on the scores and they came in the exact scores for both teams, he cleaned up!!

These things are true I have not made them up. No wins for me unfortunately.
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Be careful, people. Wingmakers is nothing but a money-making scam.


All of the info is available for free at [link to www.wingmakers.com] ?

If you WANT to buy a CD or print of Artwork you can but is all FREE at the site so try again with your debunking


Thanks OP, I had been hearing to focus on the Wingmakers information and QUIT even being disturbed by the NWO antics about to throw us off.

I had interesting visible at remte locations results using the event temples focus.

I believe you should focus on Fajada Butte in Chaco Canyon they closed off to the public saying their foot vibrations might throw off the Sun Dagger which timed with the discovery of it opening up into the 23 rooms.You have to be a certain vibration of spirit/IQ/Pleiadean connection and the rock just morphs away into the rooms...the Butte is a facade of sorts...quite real but especially with certain astronomical alignments easy to ripple its opening where the Sun Dagger is...I went there for the Grand Alignment of 99 in August as the same ETs had contacted me I had to go there for August 11,99 who came through or interdimensionally interacted with me from early childhood who LERMed themselves down to Earth who center in Alcyone in the Pleiades as Wiji's (pronounced wee-gee's) saying they came through to build the time capsule and LERMed themselves as small Native American humanoids/humans to interface at the village of Wijiji.You can stargate really easily changing dimensions inside the rooms as they interact and get you tuned up.Something is for sure happening at the Fajada Butte Sun Dagger as in 99 it was TEAMING with NSA high tech humvee unmarked white vehicles and activity. When I got there I even found there was an actual Village of Wijiji and the doors were quite small just like these ETs morphed humans who are actually humans from our future using the stargating time travelling techniques where you open a screen room, make yourself or group who you want to be and jump into them across time.It's sort of how you bilocate or teleport into a virtual world you create video game of earth time line.Mark Roberts of Stargate the Real One was up there on this 8-11-99 event as I got the internet later and found out it was even on the internet slightly changed. The Wiji's had told me he had been there at the top then and when I asked him he confirmed this years later when we were in touch. He said had they known I had BEEN contacted to come to my rooms they would have let me come up, but I do not know. It seems the NSA and teams were all ego heads and out to keep out any true central race contactees who hale from Alcyone in the Pleiades.There were 5 of us who had all been contacted and compelled to come and had known for two years before we had to be there in August of 99.They had guards following us to make sure we did NOT go up on the Butte.
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Wow, thank you for sharing! I am the OP and have also been Contacted abd drawn to the Wingmakers

IS there any thing else you can share?
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About 3 years ago I purchased the wingmakers info pack from Nexus magazine, I gave it to a friend who read all the info. That night he had a dream where he was shown the exact winning scores of a big rugby game coming up. He bet on the scores and they came in the exact scores for both teams, he cleaned up!!

These things are true I have not made them up. No wins for me unfortunately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 530758


Amazing!
Darza

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10/21/2008 01:31 PM
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Here we go again with the wingmakers B.S.

I read a lot of it years ago. Music and art is nice, but does not awaken hidden subconscious knowledge. there will be no grand portal discovered, don't wait for it, you'll just be let down in the end.
 Quoting: ViperThunder

My experience also, i left it all behind because nothing happened.
Now i think it is a nwo creation.
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10/21/2008 02:32 PM
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Wingmakers was a mind control experiment
project of n =s ++a.

Do NOT look at the paintings or listen to the music.
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10/21/2008 03:25 PM
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wingmakers POS

i heard some moron once say 535 got his stuff from there. i dont think so joe.
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Every painting has an eye in it.

A lot of them have vagina's and penis's too(Probably all of the paintings do).

Haven't listened to the music. And I don't think I want too. But I will.

I think all this, is the apple we were not supposed to eat
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Cheers
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10/21/2008 09:12 PM
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Wingmakers was a mind control experiment
project of n =s ++a.
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I think it was n =s ++a--b*mp3

Do NOT look at the paintings or listen to the music.
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See no evil, hear no evil, speak ignorance.
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Every painting has an eye in it.
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Beholder is watching...

A lot of them have vagina's and penis's too(Probably all of the paintings do).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 500534

I tell you, pornography everywhere...

Haven't listened to the music. And I don't think I want too. But I will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 500534

Let no one pull your leg...you don't want, you will not hear it.

I think all this, is the apple we were not supposed to eat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 500534


I remember, Adam was playing music while Eve was painting, and sssnake was sssnaking.
It's all there.

cheers.
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10/21/2008 11:14 PM
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The poems were impressive. Some really touched my heart and made me weep.
I'm still studying the site now, regardless whether it's a hoax or not, but there are some gems at WingMakers.

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I think we should ask a psychic if this is real.
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goddess isis

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I'm still reading the Wingmakers site now, still digesting their philosophy, still weep over the beautiful poems...

It has such an emotional effect on me...
I will post more if I get more answers. In a strange way, the comprehension of materials provide a calming effect on me..in a strange way.

I am so so hooked.

Isis
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I'm still reading the Wingmakers site now, still digesting their philosophy, still weep over the beautiful poems...

It has such an emotional effect on me...
I will post more if I get more answers. In a strange way, the comprehension of materials provide a calming effect on me..in a strange way.

I am so so hooked.

Isis
 Quoting: goddess isis

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Hi, Isis,

'in the strange way' because it communicate directly to your heart/soul, bypassing attachments of the mind/brain.

Try to download some of the music. It is all improvised, channeled, (one can't possibly score compositions like that, no matter how Bach one is,) and so spiritually inspiring...

Remember though, you may be accused of being brainwashed...lol.

here are the links to first and only interviews with James, the creator of the Wingmakers sites et al:
[link to www.wingmakers.com]

[link to www.wingmakers.com]

hf
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Hi, Isis,

'in the strange way' because it communicate directly to your heart/soul, bypassing attachments of the mind/brain.

Try to download some of the music. It is all improvised, channeled, (one can't possibly score compositions like that, no matter how Bach one is,) and so spiritually inspiring...

Remember though, you may be accused of being brainwashed...lol.

here are the links to first and only interviews with James, the creator of the Wingmakers sites et al:
[link to www.wingmakers.com]

[link to www.wingmakers.com]

hf
 Quoting: ExCaliBear


ExCaliBear, thanks for the links. I will check them out.

I'm on a detox program, which normally has effects on me, making me more sensitive emotional, irritable and troubling me with bad moods.

To my surprise, the bad moods got "cleansed away" when I read the poems and weep. Then I fall asleep. Woke up after that with a smile on my face, a calm overall feeling, a knowing that everything will be alright.

After that, I proceed with my long day. During dinner time, while waiting for my bf to return from work, I sat at a cafe, waiting for him. He's 20 mins late because of traffic. I am tired, and felt so weak. Normally when he's late and I'm tired, I'll be calling him nervously every 5 mins and throw tantrums.

But this time, it's WAY different. I have no desire for tantrums. I was calm, remained calm, and we ended up having a lovely beautiful day. In spite that I am still on detox.

Point is, there's something about the Wingmakers material that switched a button inside me, reassuring me that everything's alright, that life is too precious for disturbing it with negativity, and that..the ones you love..are the gems of your heart, no matter what.
Isis
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hf
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[link to www.wingmakers.com]
New Age assimilation operation.
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I honestly don't know what I could say about WingMakers' stuff...

Material in there, mostly the philosophy piece, seems to be related to, inspired by or maybe even copied from the same philosophy in the Urantia Book.

It's a very interesting material though. Very inspiring.

I will check out the music. Maybe it's even better than the writing...
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I honestly don't know what I could say about WingMakers' stuff...

Material in there, mostly the philosophy piece, seems to be related to, inspired by or maybe even copied from the same philosophy in the Urantia Book.

It's a very interesting material though. Very inspiring.

I will check out the music. Maybe it's even better than the writing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 712562

Question 23 -- There are several references within The Urantia Book that seem to be corroborated by the WingMakers' material. An example is the planetary reference number of earth. Also, the cosmological structure as depicted in The Urantia Book seems similar in some respects to the WingMakers. How does The Urantia Book factor into the WingMakers materials?

The Urantia Book is a Tributary Zone. It is not associated with one of the seven Tributary Zones because these are encoded sensory data streams, and The Urantia Book is pure text without encoding. Nonetheless, it's part of the collection of Tributary Zones for stage two as talked about in question 17.

The Urantia Book is most closely aligned with Lyricus' cosmological sciences discipline, but it was not written or composed by Lyricus. It derives mostly from interdimensional sources -- the equivalent of an earth-based teaching organization, only from a different planetary system. Sometimes planetary systems will exchange important writings or revelatory works for the purpose of circulating philosophical ideas or important revelations. This work is such an example.
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The only information I can find somewhat believable comes from the Neruda interviews.

Everything else on the site looks like it serves a purpose: to make money. It does seem like a money making scam doesn't it? In my mind this raises a red flag.
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09/13/2009 10:39 PM
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I believe Wingmakers are absolutely based on truth, because of the 23 chamber.
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Aleilius

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Does anybody know if audio recordings exist of the Neruda interviews?

I'm also having a hard time believing that the "chamber art" was produced by some super advanced beings. This really bugs me, and I don't know why. There's just something about those paintings that doesn't ring true.

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