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'Smears' About Obama Largely True, investigator finds

 
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'Smears' About Obama Largely True
Monday, October 20, 2008 9:32 PM
By: Lowell Ponte

The Obama campaign says its candidate is a victim of “smears” -- and has even created a Web site to fight such attacks.

But a Newsmax investigation finds many of the so-called smears are largely based in truth -- and the Obama campaign uses half-truths, clever language and ad hominem attacks to spin the facts.

Obama’s www.FightTheSmears.com focuses mainly on anti-Obama messages being repeated on the Internet and talk radio, the only media where Obama ideological allies are not dominant.

Claim No. 1. Obama's campaign is funded by the rich, big corporations and foreigners.

“Barack Obama was the only major presidential candidate this year to completely reject contributions from the Washington lobbyists and special interest PACs that have dominated our politics for years,” the Obama site says of the persistent online criticisms of its fundraising. “Instead, this campaign has been owned by the more than 3.1 million everyday Americans who have donated in small amounts.”

Not so, according to campaign finance records. Nearly half of the $600 million raised by Obama to date has come from wealthy donors and special interests.

Claim No. 2. Obama has had a close, ongoing relationship with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers.

The Obama site acknowledges that its candidate and Ayers ”served on the board of an education-reform organization in the mid-1990s,” but maintains most stories about the links between Obama and Ayers are phony or exaggerated.

It does not mention that Obama and Ayers worked together on the board distributing millions of dollars with the aim of radicalizing Chicago schoolchildren.

3. Obama takes advice from executives of troubled mortgage backer Fannie Mae.

“John McCain started smearing Obama about non-existent ties to Fannie Mae in some of his deceptive attack ads,” says FightTheSmears.com. The site downplays connections between Obama and two former heads of the giant mortgage-backing institution -- James A. Johnson and Franklin D. Raines -- whose corruption played key role in the current financial crisis.

But an editorial in the Aug. 27, 2008, Washington Post described Johnson and Raines, as “members of Mr. Obama’s political circle.”

Claim No. 5. Obama has shown only wavering support for individual gun-ownership rights.

“During Barack’s career in the Illinois and United States Senates, he proudly stood to defend the rights of hunters and sportsmen,” says Obama’s Web site, “while doing everything he could to protect children -- including his own two daughters -- from illegal gun violence.” But the National Rifle Association, it continues, “is distributing a dishonest and cowardly flyer that makes confrontational accusations and runs away from verifying them.”

Actually, the NRA does a meticulous job of laying out documentation, as Newsmax reported in September [NRA to Fight Obama Over Gun Rights Flip-Flops], to show that Obama has supported handgun confiscation; the handgun ban in Washington, D.C.; a virtual ban on high-powered rifle ammunition; and many other draconian restrictions on Second Amendment rights.

Claim No. 6. A fervent supporter of abortion rights, Obama supports late-term and partial-birth abortions.

The Obama Web site dismisses such criticism as the work of “radical anti-abortion ideologues running ads against Barack.” But as an Illinois state senator, Obama voted repeatedly against legislation to protect infants who, during a late-term abortion, were “born alive.”

Claim No. 8. Barack Obama is not a Muslim.

FightTheSmears.com states bluntly that Obama is a Christian, not a follower of Islam. In fact, Barack Hussein Obama’s Kenyan father was raised Muslim, though he reportedly was not religious.

His mother divorced and remarried another man, a Muslim from Indonesia. As a youngster in Indonesia, Barack Obama attended two schools and was registered at both as a Muslim. He received religious instruction in both schools as a Muslim, including studying the Koran. According to a childhood friend, attended services at a local mosque occasionally.

Claim No. 10. Obama was born outside the United States and is ineligible for the presidency.

The Obama Web site dismisses the claim that the candidate was born anywhere but in the United Stats and “completely false” and “groundless.”

As proof, the Obama’s campaign has produced a “certificate of live birth” from the State of Hawaii indicating that Barack Hussein Obama II was born Aug. 4, 1961. Critics, however say the document could have easily been forged and is not a substitute for certified birth certificate.

No reporter has been allowed to see the original certificate of live birth or its certificate number, which blacked out on copies on the Obama site.
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neither mcSAME nor obama will right the wrongs


Seems obama with his own mouth has done a bang up job


His naming of "57 states campaigning in..." Not America, he must be confused-there are 57 ISLAMIC STATES IN THE WORLD however, possibly referring to that-He is a HARVARD grad isn't he???


When he was asked about his Christian faith-He responded that he did not want to speak of his MUSLIM faith..." and then tried to cover Being from Harvard he does know the difference between Christian and Muslim--regardless that both hold Yehoshua is high regard-the Muslims think of him as a prophet.


Just as the Muslims are awaiting their Mahdi...Mohammed stated he would have 1 eye(maybe the one on top of the pyramid?)

Seems many like Oprah try and convey that obama is the 1...literally stated it.

Then we have Obama(as a "christian")mocking the Bible-and specifically Deuteronomy(responsible for the framing of our Bill of Rights etc...and other parts he mocked as well-seems he is IDENTIFYING HIMSELF


He is different and does offer change-the question should be,WHAT KIND OF CHANGE


the guns have to be stripped from the people to accomplish their endgame control with RFID chips-cashless society...and if he is elected-Many WILL WONDER AFTER HIM


with all kinds of accolades...even though he is as dishonest as the other candidates-this one is quite different



I am shocked more are not reacting to the inability to produce a real BC-He is going for the highest job in the land...and the rest of us in a job interview are to give ALL KINDS OF PRIVATE INFO and he can slide-WHO IS INSANE HERE?


Seems most of the lemmings enjoy being lemmings

suicide is easier than starving for them(and the starving is FAST APPROACHING)

Pathetic that the people are sold on only 2 choices-2 bad choices...and they accommodate the lies and smile profusely



Palin may be a gilf but she is not experienced enough nor is she free of the handlers who slipped her in...cheney and big oil

wake up sheople-ENDGAME IS ON

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thanks for the bumps! Where the article says "the Obama campaign uses half-truths, clever language and ad hominem attacks to spin the facts" ... I have seen that before. It is called "plausible deniability." To say just enough truth and just enough obfuscation to confuse the citizen and escape accountability.

Note the article says the Obama fightthesmears.com site does not say he was NEVER a Muslim, only that he is a Christian. (Which he isn't because no true Christian would ever sacrifice babies to abortionists, especially born alive babies. Might as well call Obama "Molech")

I have voted every which way in my lengthy voting career, Dem, Rep, Indie, Green...I vote the person. So I am not against Dems no am I against popular politicians who seem to match what the electorate wants. It is a representative republic after all, and I can handle being in the minority for an election cycle or two.

But mark my words when I say Obama is pure evil, a spawn of hell and a Nephilim doing his part to create havoc in the end times. He is BAD BAD BAD
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The media has elected Obama. I hope this gets enough Blog and attention from those of us who care, that the main street press HAS to pick up the story. We will have the truth.
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thanks for the bumps you guys!

About the Muslim thing: BostonGlobe has this:
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"Colin Powell's endorsement of Barack Obama yesterday has largely overshadowed the former secretary of state's comments about an issue that has dogged the Obama campaign: the false rumor that the Democratic presidential nominee is a Muslim (Obama is Christian). The rumor is damaging because there is a huge amount of animus toward Islam among the voting public -- a poll last year by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life found that 45 percent of Americans said they would be less likely to vote for a candidate who was Muslim."

"Powell (left), speaking on "Meet the Press,'' is among the first major public figures to question why it is a slur to call a candidate a Muslim. While explaining his concerns about the McCain campaign to Tom Brokaw yesterday, Powell (an Episcopalian) said the following:"

"I'm also troubled by, not what Senator McCain says, but what members of the party say. And it is permitted to be said such things as, 'Well, you know that Mr. Obama is a Muslim.' Well, the correct answer is, he is not a Muslim, he's a Christian. He's always been a Christian. But the really right answer is, what if he is? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer's no, that's not America."

The point, in that case would be, that Obama lied about his faith. And 'lying' and 'faith' should never be in the same sentence.
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ya'll can't fight his facts..huh..so u just throw BS and run...
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my neighbors! I love those guys!

And one of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, "What commandment is the foremost of all?" Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.' "The second is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these." (NAS, Mark 12:28-31)

We are a diverse country, and we all have the opportunity to form and opinion and vote.
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my neighbors! I love those guys!

And one of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, "What commandment is the foremost of all?" Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.' "The second is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these." (NAS, Mark 12:28-31)

We are a diverse country, and we all have the opportunity to form and opinion and vote.
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grrr....Obama. BAD BAD BAD. Demon, yes my precious, he is one

Had to say that. Hadn't said it today.
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grrr....Obama. BAD BAD BAD. Demon, yes my precious, he is one

Had to say that. Hadn't said it today.
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Newsmax Investigation ... Oxymoron.
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I bet the "pie" story was BS pie too.
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The media has elected Obama. I hope this gets enough Blog and attention from those of us who care, that the main street press HAS to pick up the story. We will have the truth.
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Actually the Independent voters will elect Obama.

2 reasons ...

(1) slimefest wingnut "experts" with fervent conspiracy rants (Breaking...will be revealed ...tomorrow!!!!!)

(2) Sarah Palin.
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Just as the Muslims are awaiting their Mahdi...Mohammed stated he would have 1 eye(maybe the one on top of the pyramid?)
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Zechariah 11:17 Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.
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