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Dead from Head wound: Miraculously REVIVED!?

 
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I don't believe the head wound refers to an individual, but an empire. The Roman Empire came to an end when Rome was sacked. It was revived when the Roman Catholic Church came to power in Rome.

That's my thought.
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the world wasnt even a "world" back in those days
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The Roman Empire stretched across the known world. The Holy Roman Empire had pretty much Catholicised the European nations...France, Germany, etc., using their armies to enforce their empire. The French Revolution and the European war that broke out as a result in 1792 ultimately led to the destruction of the Holy Roman Empire in 1803-1806.


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I don't believe the head wound refers to an individual, but an empire. The Roman Empire came to an end when Rome was sacked. It was revived when the Roman Catholic Church came to power in Rome.

That's my thought.
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the world wasnt even a "world" back in those days


The Roman Empire stretched across the known world. The Holy Roman Empire had pretty much Catholicised the European nations...France, Germany, etc., using their armies to enforce their empire. The French Revolution and the European war that broke out as a result in 1792 ultimately led to the destruction of the Holy Roman Empire in 1803-1806.


But you are free to believe what you will.
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the "key" to the "world" is technology. revelation is interpreted to be about modern times not ancient times. what john saw was the spread of info via satellite, television, telecommunication, print media etc. thats how the "World" wondered after the beast who had the deadly wound. when reagan was shot the "world" knew about it within minutes not when the roman empire fell and people knew months later. nope the head that was shot was a king, not a nation as it was said seven "kings". the word president was not even a word in john's time.
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antichrist will apparently be assassinated, then resurrected from the dead. Whether or not he really dies is another issue. Satan does not hold the key to life, but will attempt a counterfeit resurrection, which, even if it was really a resurrection, is incomplete since The Antichrist will have a darkened right eye and a dried up arm. (Zechariah 11:17, Revelation 13:3)

Will Christians be able to identify the Antichrist before the rapture?

It is very unlikely that Christians will be able to positively identify the Antichrist. The Word of God says that the body of Christ is removed before the Antichrist comes on the scene, see 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4,8). 2 Thessalonians 2:7 says, “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.” It is the church who must be taken out of the way before the Antichrist can rise up.

and in any case, we will not KNOW who he is until he stands in the temple and completes the abomination of desolation as spoken of by Daniel. So it ispointless to speculate. Fun, but pointless.
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I will have to disagree with you on this one DPS. There is no co-oberating evidence that the "he" that is mentioned in this passage, is the Holy Spirit, and it certainly does not make sense for the Holy Spirit to be "taken out" during any time on earth. If that were the case, then no one could be saved during the tribulation period, for "no man can call Jesus Lord except it were given him of the Holy Ghost."

If you take into account all of prophecy rather than just a small percentage given in Revelations, Matthew, and Thess. Then you see a much different picture of prophecy. One needs to understand Old Testament prophecy before they can properly interpret New Testament prophecy.

But getting back to the "head" thing; the "Head" is a spiritual picture of a Kingdom. Currently there are six separate but united Satanic Heads or Kingdoms, that make up "The Beast." This passage is referring to a conflict that will destroy five of the six current Satanic kingdoms and one "head" will be wounded, nearly to death and then revived to produce the Anti-Christ (Rev. 18:8-11)

Since the "wounded head" is given figuratively, it should be interpreted as such. So what event could possibly wipe out all of the Satanic kingdoms but one? That would have to be the fall of Mystery Babylon the Great/ Harvest of the Tares. Matthew's gospel tells that the Tares are gathered up before the wheat are (Matt. 13:30) ("...gather up first the tares") So then, long before there is ever a "Rapture" there is a harvest of the tares. This is also described just prior to the latter day rain of the Holy Spirit being poured out in Joel's book, but described as a destruction of the Northern kingdom...the locusts. (Which in my opinion are the generational Satanist of the Nephilim) They are gathered up, placed into the bottomless pit, and held there until just prior to the Anti-Christ rising to power and Satan gaining the keys to the pit and loosing them.

Although I respect you opinions on this forum, I think that with a little closer and more intense study of the scriptures you would have a clearer grasp of Biblical prophecy.
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the "key" to the "world" is technology. revelation is interpreted to be about modern times not ancient times. what john saw was the spread of info via satellite, television, telecommunication, print media etc. thats how the "World" wondered after the beast who had the deadly wound. when reagan was shot the "world" knew about it within minutes not when the roman empire fell and people knew months later. nope the head that was shot was a king, not a nation as it was said seven "kings". the word president was not even a word in john's time.
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Sigh. Jesus spoke of the "world". Technology makes the world a world? What when we come to the year 3000? Will this generation not be recognized as having had its part in the "world" because, by then, technology will have left our present technology in the dust?

Oh, I forgot an empire. The British Empire. It was said that the sun never set on the British Empire.
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is'nt arial sharron still alive?
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Prince William born June 21st 1982 During the 666 [Saros] Solar Eclipse. On the eve of June 21, 1982, Druids, Witches, and Satanists from all over the world celebrated at pagan sites throughout Scotland, England, and Wales for what they knew would be a unique Summer Solstice, the day when their ancient Sun-God is to be reborn, venerated in a feast called the Feast of Lucifer's Rising. As such, it was a time of intense celebration which carried on far into the night with sexual orgies, sacrifices, black masses, and Satanic worship, for it was prophesied by the ancient Druids that their Sun-King will return to them, upon some future Solstice of June 21st, he would be born of a (Merovingian) Princess. Very much like Christ's birth there were to be signs in the heavens which foretold of the Antichrist's own birth. Quite rare for a day known for its long hours of daylight, being the longest day of the year, there was a Solar Eclipse followed up by an even rarer Lunar Eclipse of the Moon on the blackest part of a New Moon, no less, allowing for even more strange alignments in the stars and planets to be seen as well. At precisely 9:03pm, Princess Diana of Wales gave birth to Prince William, and England was given its next King. These events occurring all on the same day seemed to herald something quite important significance was indeed taking place. The symbology of the Sun-God and Moon Goddess was clearly identified with Diana, a name also given to the ancient Moon Goddess, who gave birth to the Sun (foretold by the Eclipses), yet as the Sun later shone in its strength, the Moon was blighted with darkness (symbolic of death and the Otherworld). Certainly all of this meant something, many thought. As Prince Charles was visiting his wife and newborn child at St. Mary's hospital, a member of the public shouted out to ask him the boy's name. The Prince of Wales is quoted as rather hastily replying, "You'll have to ask my wife, we're having a bit of an argument over that!" The name William was finally given and made public to a waiting world, yet not until several days after his birth. It has been speculated that had Charles had his way, his son would have been touted much too early on as King Arthur II (The Second). However, in the article "No More Sacrifice," the London Psychogeographical Association Newsletter reminds us that there are some Christians who have already pointed out that should Prince William become King, he would be called King William V yet by taking the W as two V's with the I's as Roman numerals for one, they have constructed a most unsettling anagram for this same 'Once and Future King': I AM VI VI VI or I AM Six Six Six (666).

Prince William was born in London at 9:03 pm, on June 21, 1982. His birth took place just after a Solar Eclipse on the Summer Solstice, an especially powerful moment in time when the Sun, Moon, and North node were closely aligned in the Prince’s Seventh House in the emotional sign of Cancer. Eclipses are the great power points of the Zodiac. They run through space and time in regular series called Saros cycles. The Saros cycles take about 1200 years to travel from the North to the South Pole, and vice-versa, each series has a different founding horoscope as well as a different theme. William was born into a series called 2 Old North, which began in 792 AD, just before the first recognized English King was crowned. It is due to end in 2036 AD, when King William is 54 years old. This raises many questions. The most obvious is whether William, if he becomes the King of Great Britain, might in fact be the last. The meaning of the Saros 2 Old North Series is said to be that of “separation or ending of unions,” a recurring theme clearly lived out in William’s young life thus far. (It should be noted that the time allotted for this period of 'Saros' is 18x37, the equivalent of 666 years). Several other events occurred in 1982 connecting the city of London to the seemingly dark forces which are now promoting Antichrist. the first being a London murder connected to Freemasonry's P2 organization in June, next was a cryptic message about 1982 itself by Benjamin Creme, spokesperson for the so-called Maitreya Christ, stating that a great World Teacher was being born in London and would soon show himself to the world. Next, oddly enough, was the 1982 globally released film "The Omen III: The Final Conflict," which makes countless connections with England and the Antichrist, as well as other very intriguing points of interest. Not to be outdone by a mere motion picture, was the Spring release of a bestselling book called "Holy Blood Holy Grail" the first book of its kind detailing the Christ/Magdalene and Merovingian Bloodline in regards to past and present day Monarchy. Readers of that same book came away with yet another reason to believe something was very unusual about the Grail-Princess Diana and that of her young son.

[link to www.grailcode.net]
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antichrist will apparently be assassinated, then resurrected from the dead. Whether or not he really dies is another issue. Satan does not hold the key to life, but will attempt a counterfeit resurrection, which, even if it was really a resurrection, is incomplete since The Antichrist will have a darkened right eye and a dried up arm. (Zechariah 11:17, Revelation 13:3)

Will Christians be able to identify the Antichrist before the rapture?

It is very unlikely that Christians will be able to positively identify the Antichrist. The Word of God says that the body of Christ is removed before the Antichrist comes on the scene, see 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4,8). 2 Thessalonians 2:7 says, “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.” It is the church who must be taken out of the way before the Antichrist can rise up.

and in any case, we will not KNOW who he is until he stands in the temple and completes the abomination of desolation as spoken of by Daniel. So it ispointless to speculate. Fun, but pointless.

I will have to disagree with you on this one DPS. There is no co-oberating evidence that the "he" that is mentioned in this passage, is the Holy Spirit, and it certainly does not make sense for the Holy Spirit to be "taken out" during any time on earth. If that were the case, then no one could be saved during the tribulation period, for "no man can call Jesus Lord except it were given him of the Holy Ghost."

If you take into account all of prophecy rather than just a small percentage given in Revelations, Matthew, and Thess. Then you see a much different picture of prophecy. One needs to understand Old Testament prophecy before they can properly interpret New Testament prophecy.

But getting back to the "head" thing; the "Head" is a spiritual picture of a Kingdom. Currently there are six separate but united Satanic Heads or Kingdoms, that make up "The Beast." This passage is referring to a conflict that will destroy five of the six current Satanic kingdoms and one "head" will be wounded, nearly to death and then revived to produce the Anti-Christ (Rev. 18:8-11)

Since the "wounded head" is given figuratively, it should be interpreted as such. So what event could possibly wipe out all of the Satanic kingdoms but one? That would have to be the fall of Mystery Babylon the Great/ Harvest of the Tares. Matthew's gospel tells that the Tares are gathered up before the wheat are (Matt. 13:30) ("...gather up first the tares") So then, long before there is ever a "Rapture" there is a harvest of the tares. This is also described just prior to the latter day rain of the Holy Spirit being poured out in Joel's book, but described as a destruction of the Northern kingdom...the locusts. (Which in my opinion are the generational Satanist of the Nephilim) They are gathered up, placed into the bottomless pit, and held there until just prior to the Anti-Christ rising to power and Satan gaining the keys to the pit and loosing them.

Although I respect you opinions on this forum, I think that with a little closer and more intense study of the scriptures you would have a clearer grasp of Biblical prophecy.
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thank you winged lion for your thoughtful and biblically cited answer! I love when that happens. As for the rapture timing, there is scriptural basis for an argument on both sides...I am not willing to argue one over the other because it is not scripturally clear. To be honest, I hope and intuitively believe that we will be taken out in three and a half years, just prior or in conjunction with the abomination of desolation, but I do not know and the bible makes it unclear.

As for the head wound being allegorical...maybe. I will look into that further out of respect for your respectful answer.
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[link to www.greatdreams.com]

The game is not over yet...this potential president may be struck down and miraculously heal as there are many trying even now to do harm to him.
My advice is to go to the above website and read what Jean Dixon has to say about a man being born in 1962. I think you all may give more than just a passing thought to this vision that was recorded many, many years ago. Let your heart steer you to truth.
How old is this person people the likes of Oprah Winfrey tauts as "The One" we have been waiting for. He is 47 The same age as the person Jean Dixon tells us in her vision that will unit all peoples. His grandparents from many generations ago were from an egyptian sect that changed the worship of many gods, to the worship of the "ATON" or, one....the solar god sun called "The Aton". Their names were, Queen Nefertti, and her husband Akhenten, the Pharoh. They tried to change the world to a New World Order, or One World Order. Their grandson is doing the same. The difference is that Obama's timing is right.
If you look closely, he even looks like his grandmother. Same color skin, same slim neck and his face is very close to her facial structure.
Beware. The times are a changing and fast.
Go study this vision and let us know what you think
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Here is an over view with facts. Look at the subject line called "Death" and notice what Jean Dixon in her article says about what happened to her and what Wikipedia says happened to her. Look at her facial features, very fine like Obama's. There is a direct link genetically.
Also, in the many descriptions of her in this Wikipedia they also called her "the ONE" also. Many references to what they also call Obama
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JFK...naturally.

but his wounds was not healed.



I am telling ya, it's Prince William!

"On June 3 1991, nine year old Prince William received a near fatal head wound from a sporting accident and was immediately taken to a London hospital where sources cite he was close to death from a fractured skull, yet later recovered."
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yup the hottie mchotterson is the anti-christ.
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JFK...naturally.

but his wounds was not healed.
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I am telling ya, it's Prince William!

"On June 3 1991, nine year old Prince William received a near fatal head wound from a sporting accident and was immediately taken to a London hospital where sources cite he was close to death from a fractured skull, yet later recovered."
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yup the hottie mchotterson is the anti-christ.
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Must be. So we must wait until he enters the temple to announce that he is higher than the Almighty, lifting himself above all that is called God, in which case he would then be a high priest. Wow! Just think of it.
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Even if you LIKE Obama, you have to admit that Oprah calling him "the One", and Farrakhan calling him "the Messiah" is extremely creepy.
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"On June 3 1991, nine year old Prince William received a near fatal head wound from a sporting accident and was immediately taken to a London hospital where sources cite he was close to death from a fractured skull, yet later recovered."


It fits since the anti christ will be the "son of a king".
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Nicolas Sarkozy is Prince of Andorra....now
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The heads of the beast may not be people but countries...

Russia took a head wound and was completely out of the picture for a decade but has returned as strong as before with many allies who are against Jews and Christians.

Iraq took a head wound and was basically taken out of the picture... it may return to be a head of the beast.

Think of the big picture.
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Even if you LIKE Obama, you have to admit that Oprah calling him "the One", and Farrakhan calling him "the Messiah" is extremely creepy.
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ewww- yes that is creepy but so is Obama.
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The heads of the beast may not be people but countries...

Russia took a head wound and was completely out of the picture for a decade but has returned as strong as before with many allies who are against Jews and Christians.

Iraq took a head wound and was basically taken out of the picture... it may return to be a head of the beast.

Think of the big picture.
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I like that one.
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Nicolas Sarkozy:

Prince of Andorra
President of France
European Union President
Mediterrainian Union President

Currently the only WORLD LEADER bringing together other leaders for a ONE WORLD economy and ONE WORLD Government.

Strong ties to the POPE

many other reasons to currently believe Nicolas Sarkozy is the soon to be "Assinated/Killed" leader that arises 3 days later as the Satan possessed ANTIC-CHRIST and the POPE will be right there when it happens to become the FALSE PROPHET
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1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast(USA) rise up out of the sea, having seven heads(presidents) and ten horns(OIL NATIONS), and upon his horns ten crowns(WEALTH OF OIL NATIONS), and upon his heads the name of blasphemy(IN GOD WE TRUST???).

2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard(SWIFT), and his feet were as the feet of a bear(POWER), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(AUTHORITY): and the dragon(SAUDI ARABIA) gave him his power(OIL WEALTH), and his seat(VISITATIONS), and great authority(USE HIS COUNTRY).

3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death(RONALD REAGAN ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT); and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast(VIA TV, PRINT MEDIA, TELEPHONE ETC).

4And they worshipped the dragon(SAUDI ARABIA) which gave power(OPERATION DESERT SHIELD) unto the beast(USA): and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?(GULF WAR)

5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.(BIN LADEN SAYING KILL IN THE NAME OF ALLAH)

7And it was given unto him to make war (TERRORIST ATTACKS)with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. (AL QAEDA FOLLOWING BIN LADEN)
9If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth(BIN LADEN); and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon(SAUDI ARABIAN).

12And he exerciseth all the power(MILITARY MIGHT) of the first beast(USA) before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship(RESPECT) the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire(PLANES) come down from heaven(CRASHED) on the earth in the sight of men, (9/11)

14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them(AL QAEDA) that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image(RECORDING OF BIN LADEN) to the beast(USA), which had the wound by a sword(GUNSHOT), and did live.

15And he(BUSH JR) had power to give life(BROADCAST) unto the image of the beast (BIN LADEN), that the image of the beast should both speak(TALK TO THE WORLD VIA NEWS MEDIA), and cause that as many(COALITION TROOPS) as would not worship the image(BROADCAST) of the beast(BIN LADEN) should be killed (IN WAR WITH AL QAEDA).

16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads(1st stage biometric passports):

17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name(ECONOMY CRASHING: SOON TO BE IMPLEMENTED).

18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (GUESS WHO)
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there are many anti-christs
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Eclipses/events in Diana/William's Life/Death

Prince Charles and Diana married July 29, 1981: Solar Eclipse
Prince William born at St. Mary's June 21, 1982: Solar Eclipse
Prince Charles and Diana announce divorce Dec. 9, 1992: Lunar Eclipse
Princess Diana killed in suspect crash August 31, 1997: Next day Solar Eclipse
The King Arthur Solar Eclipse: Last Solar Eclipse of the Millennium: August 11, 1999
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One of the heads of the beast. Does this sound like any particular man? This beast has many heads yet is just a single entity. Also, it rises from the "sea" which (in prophecy) has always meant part of the established seat of the many empires that arose in the "civilized" part of the world. They were a composite of the Babylonian Empire, the Media-Persian Empire, the Greek Empire and finally the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire changed its status from a political empire to a religious one. From 538 until 1798 the Roman Catholic Church WAS empire and ruled the entire civilized world. They were a church yet they were also a kingdom with portfolios in every nation on earth. That portfolio was taken away from them in 1798 by Napoleon's general Berthier and their status as a kingdom ceased. The church/empire had received its fatal wound.

However, even the newspapers of the day wrote of the "healing of the fatal wound" when Italy again restored the RC church to the full status of nation and empire with a concordat that gave them the nation/state of the Vatican. It is not coincidence that the RCC has been recently given the same nation/state status in the East Jerusalaem area of Israel. They now have de facto control of East Jerusalem and are making overtures to the Palestinians as overseeing the East Jerusalem as capital of the Palestinian state. It will also give the church the opportunity to become part of any new temple services that will be reinstated according to prophecy. He (meaning the beast) will set up his "palace" between the seas in the holy mountain. This is exactly what the RCC is now doing.

It was no mystery to the people of the middle ages as to who the antichrist system was. We seem to have become immune to the idea and seek to find all these various esoteric alternatives as to who the "Antichrist" will be. Just as there is a trinity involved in the Godhead, there is also a trinity in the beast system--the beast (riding the dragon which is Satan), the image to the beast which sets up an identical heirrachal system as the RCC and begins to dictate as a dragon (once a lamb) such as the USA is now doing which is so unlike us which believed so strongly in the Constitution and the rule of law. We have de facto ceased being the lamb that the whole world loved and did everything to come here to be part of it. We are now speaking like a dragon which means that at some point in the last couple of decades, we have started to follow the dragon and be like him. The third part of this unholy trinity (like three foul spirits like frogs) is what is evident in all three "systems". It is simply spiritualism or Paganism. Many systems fall under this head, including the "new age", speaking to the dead, speaking in tongues and allowing spirits to enter in, and many other manifestations that are now commonplace in even the previously most conservative churches--including the charismatic renewal of the RCC. These three systems are constantly at war with your mind. This is where the final battle of Armageddon happens. "Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision." That battle is nearly over. Satan can do almost anything he wants now. There is only a small "remnant" that is holding out and holding on. "These are they who keep the Commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus". It is this small group of very upfront people that will bring the world to its knees. Eventually, an attempt will be made to destroy them all in a single day. The attempted murderers will think that they are doing God service by ridding the planet of these hated people who seem to be the reason for all the upheaval. Even the so-called "acts of God" will be blamed upon them for not toeing the line.

Don't think this can happen to you? Stop and think how many times in a single day that you are "moved" by events happening in the world. Feeling fear for the future? Feeling a little bit lost? Angry at "those" who are taking peace from the earth? Tossed to and fro by the "prevailing winds of doctrine"? This is not about YOU initiating feelings within yourself. YOU are being groomed for greatness in Satan's kingdom. EVEN the very ELECT feel these things and have to struggle with them. It is easier to go with the flow and seek the violent ends that the majority seems to want (such as war in Iraq, Afghan, Iran, etc). How about torture? Hey, they do it to us!! Why should we be nice? Let's get as bad as them. We'll show them!! The fact is, the world is being prepped for total war. The trouble is, it is getting harder to define the enemy. They could be our own neighbors, or their children, or even OUR children with their AMORAL ideas and practices. We can deal with immoral or with moral. Amorality is what will define the last war.

There is disinformation everywhere. Few people know the answers and very few of those dare to venture out. People are warming pews everywhere thinking that if they can just hold on.......

The answer is simple. It is righteous - ness. This is not just a state of being. This is a state of being and DOING. Want to find out how most Christians react to this? Try telling them that being who they are is just a small part of the equation. It is ALL about "doing unto others as you would have them do unto you". If the kingdom of God and His righteousness were a NOW event back in Christ's day, how much more NOW is it today.

In the lyrics of one of my most favorite band (the Moody Blues) is a very simple answer: "Weep no more for treasures you've been searching for in vain, for the truth is gently falling with the rain." The truth is far stranger than the fiction we've been fed.
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it was talking about reagan. the 7 heads are 7 US presidents. the wounded one is not the antichrist. i know who is the antichrist though!
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How droll. Not even current. If you're going by the bible "all these things at once"--not decades.
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Who is shot in the head and killed and mysteriously revived to prove he is the antiChrist?

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I see most of you dont know what it is about

It is about Satan .

When you fight with Satan , Satan is the biggest tricker

even He will lose in the next moment he will make a trick and it looks He dont lose or rather He do not think about this that He is loser , he do not care about this

Satan have also many heads , when He will lose in this moment the next person start to tolk , He have many heads .

It is the story of the war with the dragon who in fact have many heads .
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and He said to me : Why you revealed this .

I said : because I had it .

He said : you will be have worst things .
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...The Antichrist will have a darkened right eye and a dried up arm. (Zechariah 11:17, Revelation 13:3)
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Agree, and this is how Christians be able to identify him. Muslims will recognize him as the Dajjal due to his having a single eye (left, evil). The fatal wound to the skull destroyed his eye, while the withered arm is due to his body lying on it's right side for 1000's of years.

He will have "no regard for women" when he awakens to find not only is he an ugly sumbitch, but he has no penis.
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...The Antichrist will have a darkened right eye and a dried up arm. (Zechariah 11:17, Revelation 13:3)


Agree, and this is how Christians be able to identify him. Muslims will recognize him as the Dajjal due to his having a single eye (left, evil). The fatal wound to the skull destroyed his eye, while the withered arm is due to his body lying on it's right side for 1000's of years.

He will have "no regard for women" when he awakens to find not only is he an ugly sumbitch, but he has no penis.
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Why would you say he will have no penis? Where do you get that information from?
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim "seed" are TPTB.

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The line of prophecy in which these symbols are found begins with Revelation 12, with the dragon that sought to destroy Christ at His birth. The dragon is said to be Satan (Revelation 12:9); he it was that moved upon Herod to put the Saviour to death. But the chief agent of Satan in making war upon Christ and His people during the first centuries of the Christian Era was the Roman Empire, in which paganism was the prevailing religion. Thus while the dragon, primarily, represents Satan, it is, in a secondary sense, a symbol of pagan Rome.
In chapter 13 (verses 1-10) is described another beast, "like unto a leopard," to which the dragon gave "his power, and his seat, and great authority." This symbol, as most Protestants have believed, represents the papacy, which succeeded to the power and seat and authority once held by the ancient Roman empire. Of the leopardlike beast it is declared: "There was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies. . . . And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations." This prophecy, which is nearly identical with the description of the little horn of Daniel 7, unquestionably points to the papacy.
"Power was given unto him to continue forty and two months." And, says the prophet, "I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death." And again: "He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword." The forty and two months are the same as the "time and times and the dividing of time," three years and a half, or 1260 days, of Daniel 7-- the time during which the papal power was to oppress God's people. This period, as stated in preceding chapters, began with the supremacy of the papacy, A.D. 538, and terminated in 1798. At that time the pope was made captive by the French army, the papal power received its deadly wound, and the prediction was fulfilled, "He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity."
At this point another symbol is introduced. Says the prophet: "I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb." Verse 11. Both the appearance of this beast and the manner of its rise indicate that the nation which it represents is unlike those presented under the preceding symbols. The great kingdoms that have ruled the world were presented to the prophet Daniel as beasts of prey, rising when "the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea." Daniel 7:2. In Revelation 17 an angel explained that waters represent "peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." Revelation 17:15. Winds are a symbol of strife. The four winds of heaven striving upon the great sea represent the terrible scenes of conquest and revolution by which kingdoms have attained to power. {GC 439.3}
But the beast with lamblike horns was seen "coming up out of the earth." Instead of overthrowing other powers to establish itself, the nation thus represented must arise in territory preciously unoccupied and grow up gradually and peacefully. It could not, then, arise among the crowded and struggling nationalities of the Old World--that turbulent sea of "peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." It must be sought in the Western Continent.
What nation of the New World was in 1798 rising into power, giving promise of strength and greatness, and attracting the attention of the world? The application of the symbol admits of no question. One nation, and only one, meets the specifications of this prophecy; it points unmistakably to the United States of America. Again and again the thought, almost the exact words, of the sacred writer has been unconsciously employed by the orator and the historian in describing the rise and growth of this nation. The beast was seen "coming up out of the earth;" and, according to the translators, the word here rendered "coming up" literally signifies "to grow or spring up as a plant." And, as we have seen, the nation must arise in territory previously unoccupied. A prominent writer, describing the rise of the United States, speaks of "the mystery of her coming forth from vacancy," and says: "Like a silent seed we grew into empire."--G. A. Townsend, The New World Compared With the Old, page 462. A European journal in 1850 spoke of the United States as a wonderful empire, which was "emerging," and "amid the silence of the earth daily adding to its power and pride." --The Dublin Nation. Edward Everett, in an oration on
the Pilgrim founders of this nation, said: "Did they look for a retired spot, inoffensive for its obscurity, and safe in its remoteness, where the little church of Leyden might enjoy the freedom of conscience? Behold the mighty regions over which, in peaceful conquest, . . . they have borne the banners of the cross!"--Speech delivered at Plymouth, Massachusetts, Dec. 22, 1824, page 11.
"And he had two horns like a lamb." The lamblike horns indicate youth, innocence, and gentleness, fitly representing the character of the United States when presented to the prophet as "coming up" in 1798. Among the Christian exiles who first fled to America and sought an asylum from royal oppression and priestly intolerance were many who determined to establish a government upon the broad foundation of civil and religious liberty. Their views found place in the Declaration of Independence, which sets forth the great truth that "all men are created equal" and endowed with the inalienable right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." And the Constitution guarantees to the people the right of self-government, providing that representatives elected by the popular vote shall enact and administer the laws. Freedom of religious faith was also granted, every man being permitted to worship God according to the dictates of his conscience. Republicanism and Protestantism became the fundamental principles of the nation. These principles are the secret of its power and prosperity. The oppressed and downtrodden throughout Christendom have turned to this land with interest and hope. Millions have sought its shores, and the United States has risen to a place among the most powerful nations of the earth.
But the beast with lamblike horns "spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed; . . . saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live." Revelation 13:11-14.
The lamblike horns and dragon voice of the symbol point to a striking contradiction between the professions and the practice of the nation thus represented. The "speaking" of the nation is the action of its legislative and judicial authorities. By such action it will give the lie to those liberal and peaceful principles which it has put forth as the foundation of its policy. The prediction that it will speak "as a dragon" and exercise "all the power of the first beast" plainly foretells a development of the spirit of intolerance and persecution that was manifested by the nations represented by the dragon and the leopardlike beast. And the statement that the beast with two horns "causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast" indicates that the authority of this nation is to be exercised in enforcing some observance which shall be an act of homage to the papacy.
Such action would be directly contrary to the principles of this government, to the genius of its free institutions, to the direct and solemn avowals of the Declaration of Independence, and to the Constitution. The founders of the nation wisely sought to guard against the employment of secular power on the part of the church, with its inevitable result-- intolerance and persecution. The Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," and that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office of public trust under the United States." Only in flagrant violation of these safeguards to the nation's liberty, can any religious observance be enforced by civil authority. But the inconsistency of such action is no greater than is represented in the symbol. It is the beast with lamblike horns--in profession pure, gentle, and harmless--that speaks as a dragon.
"Saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast." Here is clearly presented a form of government in which the legislative power rests with the people, a most striking evidence that the United States is the nation denoted in the prophecy.
But what is the "image to the beast"? and how is it to be formed? The image is made by the two-horned beast, and is an image to the beast. It is also called an image of the beast. Then to learn what the image is like and how it is to be formed we must study the characteristics of the beast itself--the papacy.
When the early church became corrupted by departing from the simplicity of the gospel and accepting heathen rites and customs, she lost the Spirit and power of God; and in order to control the consciences of the people, she sought the support of the secular power. The result was the papacy, a church that controlled the power of the state and employed it to further her own ends, especially for the punishment of "heresy." In order for the United States to form an image of the beast, the religious power must so control the civil government that the authority of the state will also be employed by the church to accomplish her own ends.
Whenever the church has obtained secular power, she has employed it to punish dissent from her doctrines. Protestant churches that have followed in the steps of Rome by forming alliance with worldly powers have manifested a similar desire to restrict liberty of conscience. An example of this is given in the long-continued persecution of dissenters by the Church of England. During the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, thousands of nonconformist ministers were forced to flee from their churches, and many, both of pastors and people, were subjected to fine, imprisonment, torture, and martyrdom.
It was apostasy that led the early church to seek the aid of the civil government, and this prepared the way for the development of the papacy--the beast. Said Paul: "There" shall "come a falling away, . . . and that man of sin be revealed." 2 Thessalonians 2:3. So apostasy in the church will prepare the way for the image to the beast.
The Bible declares that before the coming of the Lord there will exist a state of religious declension similar to that in the first centuries. "In the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof." 2 Timothy 3:1-5. "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils." 1 Timothy 4:1. Satan will work "with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness." And all that "received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved," will be left to accept "strong delusion, that they should believe a lie." 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11. When this state of ungodliness shall be reached, the same results will follow as in the first centuries.
The wide diversity of belief in the Protestant churches is regarded by many as decisive proof that no effort to secure a forced uniformity can ever be made. But there has been for years, in churches of the Protestant faith, a strong and growing sentiment in favor of a union based upon common points of doctrine. To secure such a union, the discussion of subjects upon which all were not agreed--however important they might be from a Bible standpoint--must necessarily be waived.
Charles Beecher, in a sermon in the year 1846, declared that the ministry of "the evangelical Protestant denominations" is "not only formed all the way up under a tremendous pressure of merely human fear, but they live, and move, and breathe in a state of things radically corrupt, and appealing every hour to every baser element of their nature to hush up the truth, and bow the knee to the power of apostasy. Was not this the way things went with Rome? Are we not living her life over again? And what do we see just ahead? Another general council! A world's convention! Evangelical alliance, and universal creed!"--Sermon on "The Bible a Sufficient Creed," delivered at Fort Wayne, Indiana, Feb. 22, 1846. When this shall be gained, then, in the effort to secure complete uniformity, it will be only a step to the resort to force.
When the leading churches of the United States, uniting upon such points of doctrine as are held by them in common, shall influence the state to enforce their decrees and to sustain their institutions, then Protestant America will have formed an image of the Roman hierarchy, and the infliction of civil penalties upon dissenters will inevitably result.
The beast with two horns "causeth [commands] all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Revelation 13:16, 17. The third angel's warning is: "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God." "The beast" mentioned in this message, whose worship is enforced by the two-horned beast, is the first, or leopardlike beast of Revelation 13--the papacy. The "image to the beast" represents that form of apostate Protestantism which will be developed when the Protestant churches shall seek the aid of the civil power for the enforcement of their dogmas. The "mark of the beast" still remains to be defined.
After the warning against the worship of the beast and his image the prophecy declares: "Here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Since those who keep God's commandments are thus placed in contrast with those that worship the beast and his image and receive his mark, it follows that the keeping of God's law, on the one hand, and its violation, on the other, will make the distinction between the worshipers of God and the worshipers of the beast.
The special characteristic of the beast, and therefore of his image, is the breaking of God's commandments. Says Daniel, of the little horn, the papacy: "He shall think to change times and the law." Daniel 7:25, R.V. And Paul styled the same power the "man of sin," who was to exalt himself above God. One prophecy is a complement of the other. Only by changing God's law could the papacy exalt itself above God; whoever should understandingly keep the law as thus changed would be giving supreme honor to that power by which the change was made. Such an act of obedience to papal laws would be a mark of allegiance to the pope in the place of God.
The papacy has attempted to change the law of God. The second commandment, forbidding image worship, has been dropped from the law, and the fourth commandment has been so changed as to authorize the observance of the first instead of the seventh day as the Sabbath. But papists urge, as a reason for omitting the second commandment, that it is unnecessary, being included in the first, and that they are giving the law exactly as God designed it to be understood. This cannot be the change foretold by the prophet. An intentional, deliberate change is presented: "He shall think to change the times and the law." The change in the fourth commandment exactly fulfills the prophecy. For this the only authority claimed is that of the church. Here the papal power openly sets itself above God.
While the worshipers of God will be especially distinguished by their regard for the fourth commandments,--since this is the sign of His creative power and the witness to His claim upon man's reverence and homage,--the worshipers of the beast will be distinguished by their efforts to tear down the Creator's memorial, to exalt the institution of Rome. It was in behalf of the Sunday that popery first asserted its arrogant claims (see Appendix); and its first resort to the power of the state was to compel the observance of Sunday as "the Lord's day." But the Bible points to the seventh day, and not to the first, as the Lord's day. Said Christ: "The Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath." The fourth commandment declares: "The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord." And by the prophet Isaiah the Lord designates it: "My holy day." Mark 2:28; Isaiah 58:13.
The claim so often put forth that Christ changed the Sabbath is disproved by His own words. In His Sermon on the Mount He said: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven," Matthew 5:17-19.
It is a fact generally admitted by Protestants that the Scriptures give no authority for the change of the Sabbath. This is plainly stated in publications issued by the American Tract Society and the American Sunday School Union. One of these works acknowledges "the complete silence of the New Testament so far as any explicit command for the Sabbath [Sunday, the first day of the week] or definite rules for its observance are concerned."--George Elliott, The Abiding Sabbath, page 184.
Another says: "Up to the time of Christ's death, no change had been made in the day;" and, "so far as the record shows, they [the apostles] did not . . . give any explicit command enjoining the abandonment of the seventh-day Sabbath, and its observance on the first day of the week."--A. E. Waffle, The Lord's Day, pages 186-188.
Roman Catholics acknowledge that the change of the Sabbath was made by their church, and declare that Protestants by observing the Sunday are recognizing her power. In the Catholic Catechism of Christian Religion, in answer to a question as to the day to be observed in obedience to the fourth commandment, this statement is made: "During the old law, Saturday was the day sanctified; but the church, instructed by Jesus Christ, and directed by the Spirit of God, has substituted Sunday for Saturday; so now we sanctify the first, not the seventh day. Sunday means, and now is, the day of the Lord."
As the sign of the authority of the Catholic Church, papist writers cite "the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of; . . . because by keeping Sunday, they acknowledge the church's power to ordain feasts, and to command them under sin."--Henry Tuberville, An Abridgment of the Christian Doctrine, page 58. What then is the change of the Sabbath, but the sign, or mark, of the authority of the Roman Church--"the mark of the beast"?
The Roman Church has not relinquished her claim to supremacy; and when the world and the Protestant churches accept a sabbath of her creating, while they reject the Bible Sabbath, they virtually admit this assumption. They may claim the authority of tradition and of the Fathers for the change; but in so doing they ignore the very principle which separates them from Rome--that "the Bible, and the Bible only, is the religion of Protestants." The papist can see that they are deceiving themselves, willingly closing their eyes to the facts in the case. As the movement for Sunday enforcement gains favor, he rejoices, feeling assured that it will eventually bring the whole Protestant world under the banner of Rome.
Romanists declare that "the observance of Sunday by the Protestants is an homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the [Catholic] Church."--Mgr. Segur, Plain Talk About the Protestantism of Today, page 213. The enforcement of Sundaykeeping on the part of Protestant churches is an enforcement of the worship of the papacy--of the beast. Those who, understanding the claims of the fourth commandment, choose to observe the false instead of the true Sabbath are thereby paying homage to that power by which alone it is commanded. But in the very act of enforcing a religious duty by secular power, the churches would themselves form an image to the beast; hence the enforcement of Sundaykeeping in the United States would be an enforcement of the worship of the beast and his image.
But Christians of past generations observed the Sunday, supposing that in so doing they were keeping the Bible Sabbath; and there are now true Christians in every church, not excepting the Roman Catholic communion, who honestly believe that Sunday is the Sabbath of divine appointment. God accepts their sincerity of purpose and their integrity before Him. But when Sunday observance shall be enforced by law, and the world shall be enlightened concerning the obligation of the true Sabbath, then whoever shall transgress the command of God, to obey a precept which has no higher authority than that of Rome, will thereby honor popery above God. He is paying homage to Rome and to the power which enforces the institution ordained by Rome. He is worshipping the beast and his image. As men then reject the institution which God has declared to be the sign of His authority, and honor in its stead that which Rome has chosen as the token of her supremacy, they will thereby accept the sign of allegiance to Rome--"the mark of the beast." And it is not until the issue is thus plainly set before the people, and they are brought to choose between the commandments of God and the commandments of men, that those who continue in transgression will receive "the mark of the beast."
The most fearful threatening ever addressed to mortals is contained in the third angel's message. That must be a terrible sin which calls down the wrath of God unmingled with mercy. Men are not to be left in darkness concerning this important matter; the warning against this sin is to be given to the world before the visitation of God's judgments, that all may know why they are to be inflicted, and have opportunity to escape them. Prophecy declares that the first angel would make his announcement to "every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people." The warning of the third angel, which forms a part of the same threefold message, is to be no less widespread. It is represented in the prophecy as being proclaimed with a loud voice, by an angel flying in the midst of heaven; and it will command the attention of the world.
In the issue of the contest all Christendom will be divided into two great classes--those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, and those who worship the beast and his image and receive his mark. Although church and state will unite their power to compel "all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond" (Revelation 13:16), to receive "the mark of the beast," yet the people of God will not receive it. The prophet of Patmos beholds "them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God" and singing the song of Moses and the Lamb. Revelation 15:2, 3.
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British Monarchy are just puppets these days. I would not worry about Prince William .

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