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Anonymous Coward User ID: 531588 United States 10/21/2008 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE REVOLUTION = A BIG JOKE... why / because society is a big joke....and societys are to addcited to believing in lies... also,because society is totally clueless about the ROOTS of the evils and the corruptors, all their anger will be misplaced and misguided, which once again, gives the advantages to the TOP.. THIS IS WHY YOU LOSE...AND THE TOP WINS....OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN... ITS NOT BECAUSE THE TOP IS SO POWERFUL... ITS BECAUSE THE BOTTOM IS SO GUILLABLE, AND CLUELESS... you give the top the power....and you always have !...AND IT LOOKS LIEK YOU ALWAYS WILL.. BUTTTTTTTTTTTTT.. MAYBE YOUR JESSUS WILL SAVE YOU ALL ! LOLOLOLOLOL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 531588 United States 10/21/2008 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the TOP has mastered the art of setting up the BOTTOM...for the falls.... and even to this very day, we can see the bottom takes the bait PERFECTLY... the top gives you all enough rope to HANG YOURSELVES WITH... this why you always lose, and will always lose... you are a prisoner to lies... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 531588 United States 10/21/2008 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU NEED MORE PROOF THAT YOUR REVOLUTION WONT WORK ? HOWS THIS : people in society cant even control and manage their finacial situations... HOW IN THE FUK ARE THEY GONNA CONTROL, CREATE AND MANAGE AND ENFORCE A REVOLUTION ? a revolution that is created based upon lies, can never win.... THIS IS WHY YOU LOSE AND THE TOP WINS.. THE TOP DOESNT HAVE TO LISTEN TO OR BELIEVE YOUR LIES { THE BOTTOM but... the bottom has to listen to and believe the tops lies... so once again, : advantage goes to the top >>>>>>>>> YOU LOSE ! |
starlight_afar User ID: 524108 United States 10/21/2008 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was watching the other day youtube videos on Ireland's group of rebels called the IRA. Wow, I being a dumb American never had any idea how powerful they were, they gave jolly England a real bad time. Kind of made me vision how it would be if and when the American people decide to rebel (lots of Irish blood over here and they can get nasty). What we Americans have to keep in mind is that to create chaos will give the Government the reason to come for your guns as they did in Ireland and UK. It looks to me like the IRA was very organized, am I wrong? |
locomotion User ID: 424547 United States 10/21/2008 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Similar idea here 'You need not apply to join' The Virtues of Disorganized Resistance Thread: You need not apply to join |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 373696 United States 10/21/2008 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was watching the other day youtube videos on Ireland's group of rebels called the IRA. Wow, I being a dumb American never had any idea how powerful they were, they gave jolly England a real bad time. Kind of made me vision how it would be if and when the American people decide to rebel (lots of Irish blood over here and they can get nasty). What we Americans have to keep in mind is that to create chaos will give the Government the reason to come for your guns as they did in Ireland and UK. It looks to me like the IRA was very organized, am I wrong? Quoting: starlight_afarThe IRA was very organized, but also infiltrated by british military/MI5 types. They went through a number of changes during the 20th century. See the film Michael collins for the story of the Irish rebellion, and Wikipedia for that of the Provos. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 531588 United States 10/21/2008 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was watching the other day youtube videos on Ireland's group of rebels called the IRA. Wow, I being a dumb American never had any idea how powerful they were, they gave jolly England a real bad time. Kind of made me vision how it would be if and when the American people decide to rebel (lots of Irish blood over here and they can get nasty). What we Americans have to keep in mind is that to create chaos will give the Government the reason to come for your guns as they did in Ireland and UK. It looks to me like the IRA was very organized, am I wrong? Quoting: starlight_afaryou are comparing apples to oranges... the people in the U.S are not the people of Ireland.. the goys in the U.S are lost....they continue to believe in lies... they cant organize, and they cant even spot the ROOTS of the evils and corruptors... and you expect these people to lead a succesful revolution / LOLOLOL the onyl thing they would be able to accomplish, is to let their angers come out, and then misdirect those angers at the wrong entitys ... MORE REAOSNS WHY THE TOP WINS AND THE BOTTOM LOOSES... |
ambiguity unlimited User ID: 531209 United States 10/21/2008 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was watching the other day youtube videos on Ireland's group of rebels called the IRA. Wow, I being a dumb American never had any idea how powerful they were, they gave jolly England a real bad time. Kind of made me vision how it would be if and when the American people decide to rebel (lots of Irish blood over here and they can get nasty). What we Americans have to keep in mind is that to create chaos will give the Government the reason to come for your guns as they did in Ireland and UK. It looks to me like the IRA was very organized, am I wrong? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696The IRA was very organized, but also infiltrated by british military/MI5 types. They went through a number of changes during the 20th century. See the film Michael collins for the story of the Irish rebellion, and Wikipedia for that of the Provos. [link to en.wikipedia.org] actually, the film "michael collins" is dramatic, but fairly inaccurate.... "mick" is a wonderfully complete book on the real activities of mr collins, as well as very informative on the actual internal struggle in the irish ranks.... i cant remember the authors name, but he is a professor of irish studies at an american university.... it's informative, entertaining, and an excellent read (though it does require longer than 2 hours of attention) |
starlight_afar User ID: 524108 United States 10/21/2008 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My guess if any rebellion were to come about it would need good leaders with experience to lead. So far I have not seen such leaders just talkers. I mean look at Alex Jones shape, how far could he run? As you know in basic training it is all about getting in shape as well as shooting and fighting. Being unorganized is the best way to be. Our Government is so concerned about another American Revolution that is why Homeland Security was created, etc. They know one day the Americans will rise up with stones and baseball bats if nothing else. |
ambiguity unlimited User ID: 531209 United States 10/21/2008 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My guess if any rebellion were to come about it would need good leaders with experience to lead. So far I have not seen such leaders just talkers. I mean look at Alex Jones shape, how far could he run? As you know in basic training it is all about getting in shape as well as shooting and fighting. Being unorganized is the best way to be. Our Government is so concerned about another American Revolution that is why Homeland Security was created, etc. They know one day the Americans will rise up with stones and baseball bats if nothing else. Quoting: starlight_afarnot much chance of a popular revolution in the us.... the people are too docile.... they buy into all the propaganda sold to them.... the divisions among the masses are very deep.... the militia movements are government agent provocateurs.... and the masses are entirely too comfortable.... the average attention span is 10 minutes or less.... and very few are willing to miss their favorite televised braindrain.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 373696 United States 10/21/2008 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to en.wikipedia.org] Quoting: ambiguity unlimitedactually, the film "michael collins" is dramatic, but fairly inaccurate.... "mick" is a wonderfully complete book on the real activities of mr collins, as well as very informative on the actual internal struggle in the irish ranks.... i cant remember the authors name, but he is a professor of irish studies at an american university.... it's informative, entertaining, and an excellent read (though it does require longer than 2 hours of attention) I don't know, the Wikipedia entry points out the discrepancies and, other than the Julia Roberts romance angle, they seem pretty minor, such as types of explosives, who killed whom and such. Details, details. The whole story of the Irish revolution is both inspiring and scary. I agree, I don't see it happening in the US anytime soon. |
ambiguity unlimited User ID: 531209 United States 10/21/2008 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know, the Wikipedia entry points out the discrepancies and, other than the Julia Roberts romance angle, they seem pretty minor, such as types of explosives, who killed whom and such. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696Details, details. The whole story of the Irish revolution is both inspiring and scary. I agree, I don't see it happening in the US anytime soon. read the book, not wikipedia....i saw the movie, then read the book... there are actually a ton of discrepancies.... about the only thing accurately portrayed in the film is the scene where the key breaks in the lock when de valera is broken out of prison.... the romantic angle, though way overplayed, is actually true.... the book covers collins from birth to death, in great detail, as well as going into alot of detail of the individual facts of the times... the devil is in the details, and the details are the true story... it is an excellent primer on the birth of the irish free state, and the people and events that made it happen.... it takes the author around a thousand pages to go through the facts, so i find it impossible to believe that one could be truly informed by a 2 hour movie, or a wiki.... no instant gratification, but an in-depth examination of the sinn-fein, the irb, the ira, the dail, the negotiations with britain, the treaty, and the struggle for ratification, as well as the post-ratification infighting.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 373170 United States 10/21/2008 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think people would gladly go off to the camp... the majority of this country is a bunch of apathetic sheep that wouldn't recognize a tyrant if they sent Hitler to gather up folks. And the police ha... what a joke. My neighbor is a cop and I talk shit to him on a constant basis about upholding his oath... he laughs and tells me that the job pays his bills. He doesn't give a shit about his oath, he has never even read the constitution. Prick. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 373696 United States 10/21/2008 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so i find it impossible to believe that one could be truly informed by a 2 hour movie, or a wiki.... no instant gratification, but an in-depth examination of the sinn-fein, the irb, the ira, the dail, the negotiations with britain, the treaty, and the struggle for ratification, as well as the post-ratification infighting.... Quoting: ambiguity unlimitedLOL I don't pretend to be truly informed, just better informed than the lady who posted the original IRA question. For the most part instant grat is all I have time for, but I've got a Barnes & Noble gift card with some room on it, so I promise to go look for "Mick" in the History section. At the rate I read, it shouldn't take me more than a year to get through 1000 pages. :-) |
starlight_afar User ID: 524108 United States 10/21/2008 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree the militia movement for awhile was really active on shortwave radio then when the Feds killed William Cooper they got afraid and fell apart. So look where the Americans are today, not only with Homeland Security but also with NATO Martial Law Troops (mercenaries is the correct name for them) ready to shoot any serious American rebel. |
ambiguity unlimited User ID: 531209 United States 10/21/2008 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL I don't pretend to be truly informed, just better informed than the lady who posted the original IRA question. For the most part instant grat is all I have time for, but I've got a Barnes & Noble gift card with some room on it, so I promise to go look for "Mick" in the History section. At the rate I read, it shouldn't take me more than a year to get through 1000 pages. :-) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696like i said, check the clearance racks in the front... im glad i could convince you.... it's well worth the effort... "mick" by peter hart.... |
starlight_afar User ID: 524108 United States 10/21/2008 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Getting back to the IRA you all should watch those youtube videos, they are far better than some made up Hollywood movie, these actors were doing the real fighting (they wanted their freedom from England's invasion). True, all battles will have those agent provocateurs. Look at our American Revolution, the French were our mercenaries back then. Common goal we both hated the Red Coats. |
ambiguity unlimited User ID: 531209 United States 10/21/2008 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree the militia movement for awhile was really active on shortwave radio then when the Feds killed William Cooper they got afraid and fell apart. Quoting: starlight_afarthe militia movement was always a fed AP operation.... it allowed the feds to codify the truly militant.... it allowed them to portray those of a revolutionary mindset as "rightwing extremists".... it also allowed them to destroy public support for the idea... you dont win hearts and minds by portraying yourselves as masked men in camos, running around forests with automatic weapons.... it excites and incites the loonies, and repels the moderate... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 531869 United States 10/21/2008 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've allways said when it comes, it wont be when we have each others backs. It will come in the night, when all we have is are selfs. Good luck everybody, and may you find the inner strength to do what is right...... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 510138. We won't start it, but one way or another we'll finish it. I'd been thinking about all this all week. I knew deep down it has to be word of mouth ONLY!!! |
starlight_afar User ID: 524108 United States 10/21/2008 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I find difficult to understand is the troops who are part of the Martial Law bullies, don't they realize when their job is done the Insiders will label them too as "useless eaters". Maybe I am wrong but didn't it get created to have Sunnis and Shites in Iraq fighting each other. Its like our Government wants this to happen so they get the attention off of our being their to steal the oil. All those two groups need to do is come together and tell the invaders to leave now or else. Unity is what the Insiders fear most of all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 373696 United States 10/21/2008 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Getting back to the IRA you all should watch those youtube videos, they are far better than some made up Hollywood movie, these actors were doing the real fighting (they wanted their freedom from England's invasion). True, all battles will have those agent provocateurs. Look at our American Revolution, the French were our mercenaries back then. Common goal we both hated the Red Coats. Quoting: starlight_afarIndeed. Plenty of people were willing to fight the Brits, but very few of them WERE Brits. The american revolution was mostly fought by people who no longer considered themselves subjects of the King. No offense, but expecting Americans to overthrow their own government today is about as sensible as hoping North Korea will come liberate us. |
ambiguity unlimited User ID: 531209 United States 10/21/2008 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Getting back to the IRA you all should watch those youtube videos, they are far better than some made up Hollywood movie, these actors were doing the real fighting (they wanted their freedom from England's invasion). True, all battles will have those agent provocateurs. Look at our American Revolution, the French were our mercenaries back then. Common goal we both hated the Red Coats. Quoting: starlight_afarthe war in the north is a different struggle... it's an extension of the michael collins/ eamon de valera period, but entirely different.... there are no truly good guys in the north.... both sides arguments have merit, and both sides commited atrocities.... the current effort to find peace is very heartening, though it's several decades late in coming....i dont believe the british government should be there, but i also understand the orange stance, that as a hated minority(in ireland as a whole) that they would probably be subject to serious discrimination.... the green stance has alot of merit too, unification of their island nation, under their own flag.... the current attempts at peaceful reconcilliation will hopefully prove it possible |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 531842 Germany 10/21/2008 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the militia movement was always a fed AP operation.... it allowed the feds to codify the truly militant.... it allowed them to portray those of a revolutionary mindset as "rightwing extremists".... it also allowed them to destroy public support for the idea... you dont win hearts and minds by portraying yourselves as masked men in camos, running around forests with automatic weapons.... it excites and incites the loonies, and repels the moderate... Quoting: ambiguity unlimitedDo you have any higher education? I ask because I have noticed you cannot type out a correct sentence, in any of your posts. Have you ever noticed, that in books, they put one period at the end of a sentence. New sentences are then started with the first letter in upper case. |