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It is time for a new United States Constitution...

 
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It is time for a new United States Constitution...
and a new form of federal government created by it.

Its time for a new Constitution. The old one, as great as it was, has seen the end of its useful days. If it could speak, it would ask you "people, please give me a child, I am getting old and my time is growing short."

Some may say "No, its because the Constitution isnt being followed in the first place." or "if we could just get back to following the laws of the Constitution in the first place." ... but THIS ITSELF shows exactly how it has served its usefulness and is now in need of replacement. If it cannot preserve itself and a benevolent and prosperous America in this day and time, then it has served its useful shelf-life.
Some will say, "But Ive sworn an oath to defend the Constitution." ... but its time for reality to sink in and for all to wake up and smell the rapidly changing times, and the dire need to save and better our country and the rest of the world with it.

The best form of government for America would be some form of a direct democracy - one in which all the people acting as one can remove laws they dislike, and can create those they desire. The final form the new Constitution takes would be decided by the people, in their first votes of direct democracy itself. Of course, our educational systems would have to be altered to teach people to how to be active members of a direct democracy.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

another variation on this to consider would be a representative direct democracy.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Its time for a new Constitution - one based on some form of direct democracy, one in which the problems that plague us today can never be allowed again; one in which the people determine their own fate and solve the problems that face them as a whole.

This would in turn influence and better the rest of the world as well. Much of the world would soon follow our model in rapid succession.

The best answers to our problems are within all of us acting as one, not within an elitist few serving their own interests and those of their puppetmasters and sugar-daddys.

This of course would not happen by open consent of the powers-that-be in Washington, DC because of the absolutely extensive control they have over DC and the mainstream media. It would have to occur through some other mechanism of action, and requiring some level of force(not necessarily violent).
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Re: It is time for a new United States Constitution...
Why the hell do we need a new one for? We don't use the old one.
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How about if we just pay attention to the one we've got, instead of tolerating corrupt POS administrations who view it as "a goddam piece of paper."
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Re: It is time for a new United States Constitution...
Why the hell do we need a new one for? We don't use the old one.
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It's only a godamned piece of paper!
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It's only a godamned piece of paper!
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Ha -- beat you!
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*You couldn't live up to or keep the one you had!


*You allowed the fucking idiots and despots that *you continually voted for to rip it up and wipe their asses with it.

and now *you want new toilet paper?







*collectively
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Neo-cons don't recognize constitutions. It's just a peice of paper to them.


It would work much better if we remove the misfits.
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Re: It is time for a new United States Constitution...
and a new form of federal government created by it.

Its time for a new Constitution. The old one, as great as it was, has seen the end of its useful days. If it could speak, it would ask you "people, please give me a child, I am getting old and my time is growing short."

Some may say "No, its because the Constitution isnt being followed in the first place." or "if we could just get back to following the laws of the Constitution in the first place." ... but THIS ITSELF shows exactly how it has served its usefulness and is now in need of replacement. If it cannot preserve itself and a benevolent and prosperous America in this day and time, then it has served its useful shelf-life.
Some will say, "But Ive sworn an oath to defend the Constitution." ... but its time for reality to sink in and for all to wake up and smell the rapidly changing times, and the dire need to save and better our country and the rest of the world with it.

The best form of government for America would be some form of a direct democracy - one in which all the people acting as one can remove laws they dislike, and can create those they desire. The final form the new Constitution takes would be decided by the people, in their first votes of direct democracy itself. Of course, our educational systems would have to be altered to teach people to how to be active members of a direct democracy.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

another variation on this to consider would be a representative direct democracy.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Its time for a new Constitution - one based on some form of direct democracy, one in which the problems that plague us today can never be allowed again; one in which the people determine their own fate and solve the problems that face them as a whole.

This would in turn influence and better the rest of the world as well. Much of the world would soon follow our model in rapid succession.

The best answers to our problems are within all of us acting as one, not within an elitist few serving their own interests and those of their puppetmasters and sugar-daddys.

This of course would not happen by open consent of the powers-that-be in Washington, DC because of the absolutely extensive control they have over DC and the mainstream media. It would have to occur through some other mechanism of action, and requiring some level of force(not necessarily violent).
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It's time for you to get the fuck out of my country. Meanwhile, shove your new constitution as far up your dumb ass as possible, on the way out.
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the original is just fine.. It has not failed the people but instead the people have failed to take action making sure the constitution is upheld .

The people have slowly sat back and watched it be slowly shredded , but they don't care as they have their big screen TV's Ipods, strabucks coffee.


In the past 8 years the size of the US Government has grown by 60% and Bills have been signed into law that VOID your rights , example Patriot acts 1,2 literally have made all US citizens enemy combatants.


The Government is supposed to SERVE THE PEOPLE , NOT THE PEOPLE SERVE THE GOVERNMENT. It is time for the people to rise up and take a stand against the tyranical machine called Government .



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Amendments
First Amendment – Establishment Clause, Free Exercise Clause; freedom of speech, of the press, and of assembly; right to petition
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Second Amendment – Right to keep and bear arms.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Third Amendment – Protection from quartering of troops.
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Fourth Amendment – Protection from unreasonable search and seizure.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Fifth Amendment – due process, double jeopardy, self-incrimination, eminent domain.
No person shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Sixth Amendment – Trial by jury and rights of the accused; Confrontation Clause, speedy trial, public trial, right to counsel
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.
Seventh Amendment – Civil trial by jury.
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Eighth Amendment – Prohibition of excessive bail and cruel and unusual punishment.
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Ninth Amendment – Protection of rights not specifically enumerated in the Bill of Rights.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Tenth Amendment – Powers of states and people.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Proposed amendments not passed with Bill of Rights
Article I – Apportionment.
After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than one hundred representatives, nor less than one representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of representatives shall amount to two hundred; after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than two hundred representatives, nor more than one representative for every fifty thousand persons.
Article II (ratified in 1992 as Twenty-seventh Amendment) – Congressional pay raises.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson
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Direct democracy? You idiot! How do you think we got here in the first place? Our Republic has been replaced by a democracy by traitors in our government. Democracy is what Karl Marx advocated to bring down a free Republic so it could be rebuilt to further world communism.

As far as 'the Constitution should be scrapped because it can't defend itself', just shows you're an even bigger idiot! The Constitution of the united States is a piece of paper, on which great men wrote down TIMELESS principles of liberty gleaned from the history of governments going back centuries. These principles must be defended by just men. Unjust men tear down our Republic for power, campaign contributions and the ever popular "socialist revolution".

If you want to know what kind of government we have now. Take a copy of the Constitution and a copy of the communist manifesto and read them.

Find out which one has...

1. a central bank controlling all credit (Fed Reserve bank).
2. government control of education (dept of Ed).
3. government control of agriculture (dept of Ag).
4. a progressive income tax (IRS).
5. centralization of communication (FCC)
and transportation (DOT).


Google - ten planks of the communist manifesto

to find out the answer.
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Sorry OP, but I dont care to be a lamb at the dinner table of you wolves.

And as for this country becoming great once again...aint gonna happen! Why? Because we have become a godless nation hell bent on destruction. We are a selfish, fattened bunch raised on entitlement philosophy and histrionic conditioning.

We are a perverse generation who forgets the great lessons of life, or rather, I wouldn't say forgets, but rather forsakes. Unless and until every heart in this nation "gets it right"...we will go the way of the empires of old, into oblivion.
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It is up to the people to decide if they want to live free as a citizen or to live on their knees as a subject to be controlled .
Most people today are pussified frikking wimps who cower in fear at the thought of actually having to fight for their freedom as they may mess up their $200 manicure or get their hands dirty.

The Real citizens who support and back the US Constitution are ready to fight to the death for the right to be free citizens and not just for themsleves but their family grandchildren, neighbors and generations to follow.


It is a disgrace to hear people say " we can't do anything" in short it means They don't want to do anything as long as they have all the luxuries of ,fast food, 24hr shopping malls, cell phones, as it would kill them to give up the smallest luxury or one drop of their blood .
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson
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Why the hell do we need a new one for? We don't use the old one.
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the OP must be related to George W Bush and use the Constitution for buttwipe. The OP is just another Idiot who wants to destroy the Constitution.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson
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How do you think we got here in the first place? Democracy is what Karl Marx advocated to bring down a free Republic so it could be rebuilt to further world communism.
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I agree. This is what is happening now, and what must be stopped! The nation has been hijacked in the eventual favor of centralization.

I think you misunderstand exactly what I am referring to and advocating - which is understandable because it has no precedent on Earth.


I do not advocate centralization of anything. Its the EXACT OPPOSITE. A true direct democracy that is well-designed and capable of defending itself does not lead to communism, it leads to the opposite end of the spectrum from it.
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When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

— That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to (REINSTATE THE PROPER) Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

— Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.

The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms:

Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury.

A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren.

We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us.

We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here.

We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence.

They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.

— And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

— John Hancock

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Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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ask anyone you know if they have actually READ the Constitution, or even the Declaration, 90% havent, if we merely followed our own Constitution we wouldnt be in this mess, we do not need a new one.

If we were enforcing the constitution ..you could show up in washington DC with about 1000 arrest warrants..and get all of them..congress, senate, the administration , all of them..

The 10th Amendment actually says this:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


Declaration of an illegal government

Be it known unto the citizens of our countries that the enemy has once again slithered into the corridors of power. It has seized the reigns of our constitution that was to steer us into the path of peace and has steered it off course onto a path of destruction. It has overthrown democractic processes and the freedoms of our christian institutions from within through its criminal ideology which it calls freedom. It has infected every branch of governance with the fallen nature of man and made money its god. It has removed the laws of God as the foundation of our courts that were to measure out Justice according to Truth. It has ceased to be legitimate in the eyes of the people and must be dissolved forthwith. It has overthrown the monetary system by indebting the Nation to foreign bankers without consultation to the foundation of our countries that was built upon freedom and therefore we declare a year of Jubilee against this fraudulent debt that has been burdened to the people through deceit.

One problem with doing this is that we will need an alternative to the current illegal tender system? Something that is backed up with something tangible like silver and goal or labour in the bank. A monetary system that could only be used for nationals and national comapnies and could only be used to buy products, goods and services within the country of origin. Its the only way to reclaim the soveignty thats been lost to the NWO. This national currency could also be used interchangeably with the global currency that we have that is about to colapase. Then when it colapses we would still have a currency to work with that would be backed up with something real.

After the global currency colapses we would be able to lock up many of the treasonous traitors that engineered and prosituted our countries out to the multinational corporate criminals that have centralized all the markets and industries through their craftiness and deceit.

Sounds like a legitimate plan....I hate to think what the alternative might be.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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What you propose, a "direct democracy" with "people acting as one", is EXACTLY what the framers of our constitution were trying to AVOID. That's why it's set up the way it is in the first place. To AVOID a mob rule mentality.

Go to the back of the class and start over.
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Sadly, we have forgotten that states created the federal government, not the other way around. The Electoral College system represents an attempt, however effective, to limit federal power and preserve states’ rights. It is an essential part of our federalist balance. It also represents a reminder that pure democracy, mob rule, is incompatible with liberty.

- Ron Paul 11/2/04
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When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

— That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to (REINSTATE THE PROPER) Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

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+1
We are there now.
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There are two things that define a sovereign nation:

Clearly defined borders.

The Laws that govern the land and its people.

Many have fought and died to preserve the contents of the Constitution.

If this country has any chance again of defining itself as a just and righteous country, then it must adhere to the rules which govern it.

The OP has it wrong. By REDEFINING the rules to adapt to ill-characters and their personal desires, you are destroying the system that this country was founded and built. This is a recipe for despotism.

The United States of America is not perfect, and it should not be, as no system devised by men can be perfect. But if you can give me one example as to a perfect system of governance, then please provide that as a prototype.

Rather than asking for blessing, I think we should all be saying God HELP America.
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There are two things that define a sovereign nation:

Clearly defined borders.

The Laws that govern the land and its people.

Many have fought and died to preserve the contents of the Constitution.

If this country has any chance again of defining itself as a just and righteous country, then it must adhere to the rules which govern it.

The OP has it wrong. By REDEFINING the rules to adapt to ill-characters and their personal desires, you are destroying the system that this country was founded and built. This is a recipe for despotism.

The United States of America is not perfect, and it should not be, as no system devised by men can be perfect. But if you can give me one example as to a perfect system of governance, then please provide that as a prototype.

Rather than asking for blessing, I think we should all be saying God HELP America.
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applause
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What you propose, a "direct democracy" with "people acting as one", is EXACTLY what the framers of our constitution were trying to AVOID. That's why it's set up the way it is in the first place. To AVOID a mob rule mentality.

Go to the back of the class and start over.
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Youve got it backwards.

"... of the people, by the people, and for the people ..."

However, it fell away from that as it has been hijacked by one singular party of elitists criminals who dont give a damn about the people's voice - and obviously youve fallen victim to their propaganda.
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There are two things that define a sovereign nation:

Clearly defined borders.

The Laws that govern the land and its people.

Many have fought and died to preserve the contents of the Constitution.

If this country has any chance again of defining itself as a just and righteous country, then it must adhere to the rules which govern it.

The OP has it wrong. By REDEFINING the rules to adapt to ill-characters and their personal desires, you are destroying the system that this country was founded and built. This is a recipe for despotism.

The United States of America is not perfect, and it should not be, as no system devised by men can be perfect. But if you can give me one example as to a perfect system of governance, then please provide that as a prototype.

Rather than asking for blessing, I think we should all be saying God HELP America.
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yes, and we should be hearing : George W Bush we the jury find you GUILTY of acts of treason, perjury, murder,fraud, deceptive practices, and the other 9,397 charges brought against you.

Your punishment : To hang by the neck until dead and the sentence shall be carried out in full within 24-48 hours in the public square.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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Just for the record, I do not advocate death as a necessary recourse.

By behaving like that, you are acting like those you despise.

This country needs to do better than that, as a whole.
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If you think little pieces of parchment will save you,
have at it.

I'll watch from my tomato patch, thank you.
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It's not the parchment, it's the words and ideas contained therein.

And tomatoes only grow in season.

Good luck with that.
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Why the hell do we need a new one for? We don't use the old one.
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Direct democracy? You idiot! How do you think we got here in the first place? Our Republic has been replaced by a democracy by traitors in our government. Democracy is what Karl Marx advocated to bring down a free Republic so it could be rebuilt to further world communism.
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REAL democracy FTW.

The days of centralized rule are over.
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I am sure barry is working on tearing up the old one as we speak.
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How about if we just pay attention to the one we've got, instead of tolerating corrupt POS administrations who view it as "a goddam piece of paper."
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For God Sakes!
168020 IS RIGHT!!
Keep the one we have..and just follow it!!

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