Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 484854 United States 10/22/2008 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. How many small businesses make over $250,000 after all their expenses are taken into consideration? Try again -- either you are ignorant as hell, a paid shill, or someone who makes over $250,000 a year, and don't want to pay any more in taxes. |
anonymous (OP) User ID: 532239 United States 10/22/2008 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. in case you haven't noticed 250,000.00 a yr income is not a high level lifestlye .next calculate and add state federal and county taxes ..add health insurance cost ....these people will be lucky to have 150,000.00 left for all other living expenses like car payments house payments home repairs home maintanance car repairs car maintanance ...childcare .then add in unexpected busineses expenses which still must be paid..then add a decling economic situation. then factor in the cost of new equiptment for the compay.these folks are not well off by any stretch of anyones imagination.....have i clarified this for you...then add on 401 K contributions ... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 521396 United States 10/22/2008 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. How many small businesses make over $250,000 after all their expenses are taken into consideration? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 484854Good One details seem to lost in all the BS with this info Most commenting on this don't even own a business let alone understand how taxes are paid! |
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anonanon User ID: 272356 United States 10/22/2008 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. His tax plans will kill off what is left of the middle class which seems to be his agenda - to make us all dependent on some kind of government program which means they own our sorry butts. |
entropy User ID: 527385 United States 10/22/2008 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. How does making people that make over 250,000 a year more income tax relate to this? It don't. If a business is profitable it will continue. If rich crybabies bail out it will open the door to new business to emerge. McCain's tax plan is a slap in the face to the working man. It's also the second biggest reason he will lose this election. my re-imaging(cover) of "Piggies" (The Beatles) and "Lights in the Sky" (Nine Inch Nails) is available to listen to now. Won't cost you a dime. Click below to hear it. [link to www.myspace.com] Over 1 Million plays, Most popular NIN Remix / Re imaging artist on myspace. I keep it separate: [link to www.myspace.com] archive: [link to www.vampirefreaks.com] Thanks. [link to www.facebook.com] aSBhbSB5b3VyIHNhdmlvcg0KaSBhbSBjb3JydXB0aW9uDQppIGFtIHRoZSBhbmdlbA0Kb2YgeW91ciBkZXN0cnVjdGlvbg0KaSBhbSBwZXJ2ZXJzaW9uDQpzZWNyZXQgZGVzaXJlDQppIGFtIHlvdXIgZnV0dXJlDQpzd2FsbG93ZWQgdXAgaW4gZmlyZQ== |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 484854 United States 10/22/2008 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. in case you haven't noticed 250,000.00 a yr income is not a high level lifestlye .next calculate and add state federal and county taxes ..add health insurance cost ....these people will be lucky to have 150,000.00 left for all other living expenses like car payments house payments home repairs home maintanance car repairs car maintanance ...childcare .then add in unexpected busineses expenses which still must be paid..then add a decling economic situation. then factor in the cost of new equiptment for the compay.these folks are not well off by any stretch of anyones imagination.....have i clarified this for you...then add on 401 K contributions ... Quoting: anonymous 532239The payments you are citing are not taxed. That's why I specifically asked how many 'small businesses' make more than $250,000 a year AFTER ALL THEIR EXPENSES ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 484854 United States 10/22/2008 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. Please answer you know---Is that $250,000 and over adjusted gross income or not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 529063If your business pays $200,000 for widget parts, and sells those widgets for $250,000, you are not taxed on $250,000. You are taxed on $50,000 -- the profit. The cost for the parts is assumed to be a legitimate business expense, and is not taxed as business income. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 529063 United States 10/22/2008 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. That was not my question--I come from a family of all business owner, husband,father,brothers,uncles,cousins so on. What I want to know is if the $250,000 and over is the adjusted gross income, is that what obamas plan refers too? |
Reece2076 User ID: 530050 China 10/22/2008 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. in case you haven't noticed 250,000.00 a yr income is not a high level lifestlye .next calculate and add state federal and county taxes ..add health insurance cost ....these people will be lucky to have 150,000.00 left for all other living expenses like car payments house payments home repairs home maintanance car repairs car maintanance ...childcare .then add in unexpected busineses expenses which still must be paid..then add a decling economic situation. then factor in the cost of new equiptment for the compay.these folks are not well off by any stretch of anyones imagination.....have i clarified this for you...then add on 401 K contributions ... Quoting: anonymous 532239IF THAT IS THEIR NET INCOME THEN THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE A TAX INCREASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As Above, So Below Work Smarter, Not Harder |
Reece2076 User ID: 530050 China 10/22/2008 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. That was not my question--I come from a family of all business owner, husband,father,brothers,uncles,cousins so on. What I want to know is if the $250,000 and over is the adjusted gross income, is that what obamas plan refers too? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 529063NET INCOME!!!!! If your business grosses $250,000 then there's no way you can't find enough deductions to come way under that tax bracket. As Above, So Below Work Smarter, Not Harder |
Reece2076 User ID: 530050 China 10/22/2008 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. Please answer you know---Is that $250,000 and over adjusted gross income or not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 484854If your business pays $200,000 for widget parts, and sells those widgets for $250,000, you are not taxed on $250,000. You are taxed on $50,000 -- the profit. The cost for the parts is assumed to be a legitimate business expense, and is not taxed as business income. As Above, So Below Work Smarter, Not Harder |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 527968 United States 10/22/2008 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. That was not my question--I come from a family of all business owner, husband,father,brothers,uncles,cousins so on. What I want to know is if the $250,000 and over is the adjusted gross income, is that what obamas plan refers too? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 529063Yes, however please note for a business owner, gross income is pre-tax net sales less cost of sales. |
Sinanju User ID: 527888 United States 10/22/2008 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. You ignorant MOTHERFUCKERS. I AM a sub-chapter S corporation. Every penny to my NAME.. every penny.. those earned.. those spent.. those fucking WISHED upon are taxed AS personal income. Not capital gains... PERSONAL INCOME TAX. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 465333 United States 10/22/2008 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. How does making people that make over 250,000 a year more income tax relate to this? It don't. If a business is profitable it will continue. If rich crybabies bail out it will open the door to new business to emerge. McCain's tax plan is a slap in the face to the working man. It's also the second biggest reason he will lose this election. Quoting: entropyAmerica isn't about the "working for someone else" man. America is about the "taking responsibility for themselves" man. Wage work is a cop out for people who want to buck responsibility and pass it along to the boss and get paid for it. That is why socialism never works. It always ends up with mediocrity, because good ideas never grow into anything. Novelty = risk. Owning risk and managing it is what makes capitalism the engine it is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 473495 United States 10/22/2008 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. You ignorant MOTHERFUCKERS. I AM a sub-chapter S corporation. Every penny to my NAME.. every penny.. those earned.. those spent.. those fucking WISHED upon are taxed AS personal income. Quoting: Sinanju 527888Not capital gains... PERSONAL INCOME TAX. Wow...if you run your business in the same manner as your post, you must not be very successful. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 484854 United States 10/22/2008 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. You ignorant MOTHERFUCKERS. I AM a sub-chapter S corporation. Every penny to my NAME.. every penny.. those earned.. those spent.. those fucking WISHED upon are taxed AS personal income. Quoting: Sinanju 527888Not capital gains... PERSONAL INCOME TAX. Then you have no idea what you're doing when you file your taxes. Business expenses are not taxed. They are legitimate deductions. You truly are a moron. |
Reece2076 User ID: 530050 China 10/22/2008 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. You ignorant MOTHERFUCKERS. I AM a sub-chapter S corporation. Every penny to my NAME.. every penny.. those earned.. those spent.. those fucking WISHED upon are taxed AS personal income. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 484854Not capital gains... PERSONAL INCOME TAX. Then you have no idea what you're doing when you file your taxes. Business expenses are not taxed. They are legitimate deductions. You truly are a moron. No just a pathological liar; and judging by his tone a drunk one at that. An S corporation or S-corp, for United States federal income tax purposes, is a corporation that makes a valid election to be taxed under Subchapter S of Chapter 1 of the Internal Revenue Code. In general, S Corporations do not pay any income taxes. Instead, the corporation's income or losses are divided among and passed through to its shareholders. The shareholders must then report the income or loss on their own individual income tax returns. [link to en.wikipedia.org] As Above, So Below Work Smarter, Not Harder |
entropy User ID: 527385 United States 10/22/2008 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. Not capital gains... PERSONAL INCOME TAX. Quoting: Reece2076In general, S Corporations do not pay any income taxes. Instead, the corporation's income or losses are divided among and passed through to its shareholders. The shareholders must then report the income or loss on their own individual income tax returns. [link to en.wikipedia.org] PWNED! my re-imaging(cover) of "Piggies" (The Beatles) and "Lights in the Sky" (Nine Inch Nails) is available to listen to now. Won't cost you a dime. Click below to hear it. [link to www.myspace.com] Over 1 Million plays, Most popular NIN Remix / Re imaging artist on myspace. I keep it separate: [link to www.myspace.com] archive: [link to www.vampirefreaks.com] Thanks. [link to www.facebook.com] aSBhbSB5b3VyIHNhdmlvcg0KaSBhbSBjb3JydXB0aW9uDQppIGFtIHRoZSBhbmdlbA0Kb2YgeW91ciBkZXN0cnVjdGlvbg0KaSBhbSBwZXJ2ZXJzaW9uDQpzZWNyZXQgZGVzaXJlDQppIGFtIHlvdXIgZnV0dXJlDQpzd2FsbG93ZWQgdXAgaW4gZmlyZQ== |
Sinanju User ID: 527888 United States 10/22/2008 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. "Then you have no idea what you're doing when you file your taxes. Business expenses are not taxed. They are legitimate deductions." >>Oh, I deduct them... and every couple of years, the Imperial Federal Gubmint slides in and takes every penny I have. They have left me $100 in the bank three times in ten years. You are OBVIOUSLY NOT a small business owner or you would know they do this sort of thing every time they can. Go ahead, vote for No-bama. I intend to... but I want to destroy the fucking country and NOBODY in history will do it faster. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 484854 United States 10/22/2008 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. You ignorant MOTHERFUCKERS. I AM a sub-chapter S corporation. Every penny to my NAME.. every penny.. those earned.. those spent.. those fucking WISHED upon are taxed AS personal income. Quoting: Sinanju 527888Not capital gains... PERSONAL INCOME TAX. Question Quoting: CPAI am a shareholder of an S-Corp in which I incur expenses which are un-reimbursed...primarily travel related and some depreciable equipment. I have,in the past, taken interest expense on debt incurred for the purchase of the S-Corp shares as a non-passive loss on Line 28 B (h) on my Schedule E. What are the requirements to take these other expenses onto Sch E? Answer Shareholder expenses that are ordinary and necessary are deductible on schedule E line 28. Interest paid on borrowings to acquire S-Corp stock is deductible. Travel expenses and depreciation are not ordinary and are not deductible unless they show a valid business purpose. I would find it hard to deduct depreciation as you would have to show that it was necessary for you to acquire the equipment for business use. John Kirk, CPA www.johnkirkcpa.com [link to en.allexperts.com] |
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Sinanju User ID: 527888 United States 10/22/2008 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. All of my expenses... due to the NATURE of my business... are questionable when it comes to deductions. Sure, I deduct them.. and they will let it slide so I can accumulate some bread... then they take it all. When No-bama gets elected... they won't even leave my hundred clams in the bank. He will run me and all those like me right the fuck out of business and you No-bamabots KNOW it. |
Reece2076 User ID: 530050 China 10/22/2008 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. All of my expenses... due to the NATURE of my business... are questionable when it comes to deductions. Sure, I deduct them.. and they will let it slide so I can accumulate some bread... then they take it all. Quoting: Sinanju 527888When No-bama gets elected... they won't even leave my hundred clams in the bank. He will run me and all those like me right the fuck out of business and you No-bamabots KNOW it. you need to say what type of business you do. because i find it hard to believe there is any business where you can't deduct a lot of expenses and costs that it takes to run your company. As Above, So Below Work Smarter, Not Harder |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 484854 United States 10/22/2008 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. All of my expenses... due to the NATURE of my business... are questionable when it comes to deductions. Sure, I deduct them.. and they will let it slide so I can accumulate some bread... then they take it all. Quoting: Sinanju 527888When No-bama gets elected... they won't even leave my hundred clams in the bank. He will run me and all those like me right the fuck out of business and you No-bamabots KNOW it. You think you can fool us into accepting your situation without facts. You can't. If you are filing your taxes correctly, they are not able to go back and take from previous years unless you filed those years wrong. Your whole story sounds fishy, and you are intentionally spreading falsities in order to try to sway people into voting against Obama. You are a regular here, and you can't even afford to pay for an account? And you expect us to believe that you won't benefit from Obama's tax plan? Sorry -- it's not working. |
Sinanju User ID: 527888 United States 10/22/2008 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Small bussinesses employ 75 percent of AMERICA'S workers .obama willtax them higher, costing employees thier jobs. "you need to say what type of business you do. because i find it hard to believe there is any business where you can't deduct a lot of expenses and costs that it takes to run your company." >>No, I do not need to do a damn thing.. you will not change your mind either way. My business is well known here. |
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