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Looking for home made apple wine recipes...

 
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Looking for home made apple wine recipes...
I've seen most of them on the www. None local or from family yet though. Have the art of scuppernong wine making down fairly well.(have 12 gallons working) But!, I have apples out the yahoo this year and I don't want to dry all of them. And there are people here who know most everything about one subject or another. Looking for simple passed down recipes.

Really, thanks for any suggestions.

PS: I'm especially interested in any recipes that call for only the peelings. Thanks again if you know any.

,Will share scuppernong wine recipe for barter:)>
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I don't have any recipes to share with you, but thought I would mention that I accidentally made apple beer one time! I had put apple juice into a gallon plastic bottle because we were going out of town and wanted to take it with us. The clutch went out on the car...we had the car towed to a friend's backyard garage...we took a taxi back home. Six weeks later we got the car back and when we went through the trunk there was this perfectly clear apple "juice" that I figured would have to be dumped out. So I opened the bottle and it went "FFffsssshhhttt" just like opening a bottle of soda. Then the smell of beer ...so we tried it. It was good! Am I lucky I didn't die of poisonong? I always wondered about that.
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Apple Jack


Recipe file created January 27, 2001.
I have been asked for a recipe for Apple Jack several times now,
so I thought I had better add one to my site.
Ingredients



1 gallon apple juice (or 16 pounds apples)
1 cup granulated sugar
1/2 teaspoon yeast energizer
1 1/2 teaspoon acid blend
1/2 teaspoon pectic enzyme
1 campden tablet
1 package champagne yeast (for 1 to 5 gallons)

Place chopped fruit or juice in primary fermentor. Add balance of ingredients. Stir to dissolve sugar. Stir daily for 5 to 6 days or until frothing ceases. Strain out fruit and squeeze as much juice out of it as you can. Siphon into secondary fermentor and attach airlock.

Rack in three weeks, and again every 2 months until the cider is clear.

Gently stir in 1/4 cup sugar per gallon. Bottle in champagne bottles or clean pop bottles. Age three months.

Apple Jack

Early settlers made this by setting their apple cider outside in the winter and allowing it to become slushy. They would then skim the frozen water off of the surface, leaving a "hardened" cider behind. Commercially, it is now distilled. This is illegal for the home brewer, but the freezing method is effective.

First, make Apple Cider (recipe above). Skip the final step, and allow it to age the three months in the secondary fermentor.

Second, siphon it back into the primary fermentor. If you have a deep freeze, put the primary fermentor in it overnight. If not, use ice cream buckets and the fridge freezer. Remember to leave room for the water to expand when it freezes.

The alcohol will not freeze, so it is forced into the center of the container when the cider is frozen. The brewer then has the option of either skimming the ice off of the surface, or siphoning the alcohol out of the center. The siphoning method will result in a higher alcohol content than the skimming method.

Alternatively, you could follow this method using your favourite Apple Wine recipe.

November 5, 2005
I received this email from a fellow winemaker detailing how he gets the ice out of his jack:

I found my hard cider to have such a high alcohol content it would only freeze to a slush in my home freezer. After wasting a bit of the good stuff trying to drain it off the ice and throwing out quite a bit of brown ice, I decided something had to be done to minimize waste.
After much thought, I decide to separate the ice and jack by placing t-shirt material as a liner in a "salad spinner" centrifuge, folding the material over the slush to cover it,and spinning the jack out with the spinner. It worked beautifully, and I've only thrown clear ice out since. This also increases efficiency since you don't have as much ice melt while waiting for the jack to drain.

James Daymon
Dorr, MI

NOTE:

The champagne yeast works slower than wine yeast, and has a lower alcohol tolerance. It also produces finer bubbles than wine yeast, and so is preferred for sparkling wines. If you want a still cider with a higher alcohol content, use your favourite wine yeast.
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Re: Looking for home made apple wine recipes...
hard cider.... buy a bottle of apple cider with no preservatives, un pasteurized.... leave it sit in the warm dark area of your choice for a week or so(cap off, and rag tied over neck).... the other poster just happened to make "apple jack" accidently...got some natural yeast(airborne) in it as she transferred juice to the other bottle.... fermented it....
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5 apples-- some oranges-- 4 koolaide packets


(raisins if yo can get em) In a Folgers jar


sqeeze fruit shake vigorously,

add a couple pieces of bread.(broken up please)

Let sit in the dark ,, and burp as nessasary..

HINT:leave fruit whole in jar.


8- 10 days.
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Apple wine or hard apple cider?
Personal responsibility - try it sometime. Quit blaming others for your bad choices. Consequences happen.

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Re: Looking for home made apple wine recipes...
5 apples-- some oranges-- 4 koolaide packets


(raisins if yo can get em) In a Folgers jar


sqeeze fruit shake vigorously,

add a couple pieces of bread.(broken up please)

Let sit in the dark ,, and burp as nessasary..

HINT:leave fruit whole in jar.


8- 10 days.
 Quoting: Kanigo2


A big thanks for all of you who replied!

For Kanigo2, I really liked the simplicity
of the above recipe and thanks. Am I correct
that I could do the same thing without the
oranges? And how long should it work before
there's a decent alcohol content? I'd also be
working with volumes more suitable to a 5 gallon
bucket covered with a breathable cloth.
(I have two 36 gallon storage bins full of apples
in the root cellar. My work is cut out for me next
week)

Here is the recipe I have for scuppernong(known
as 'scutlins' round these parts)wine for anyone who
might be interested. And thanks to all again.
(and this is very indicative of the ONLY process I
know when it comes making wine)

- take ten pounds of scuppernongs, squish and deposit juice , seeds, husks and all into the bottom of clean 5 gallon bucket.

- add 5 lbs. of sugar.

- add 1/2 block of yeast(half oz)

- add 1.5 gallons of water

- give it a child's dose of a stir

- cover with an airy,(breathable) piece of cloth secured by string, NOT a rubber band!(don't let the bugs in it!)

- place bucket in dry cool dark area for 27 days.

- remove the bucket, take the musk out, and strain the remaining liquid through a tea strainer, return the mixture to the same container, recover in the same manner and let set in the same space for two more days.

- remove bucket from space and cipher off the liquid, being careful not to disturb the bottom sediment, into sterile Mason Jars and add 4 table spoons of vodka for each quart
of liquid

- at this point you should have 1.5 gallons of wine bottled

- place jars in cool dark dry place for 15 more days and you have wine.

Worked like a charm last year. This year, who knows?
(I hope it works again, I have 12 gallons working
right now:)
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Re: Looking for home made apple wine recipes...
That is actually a pulp alcohol-- and its supposed to be simple-

you need the oranges for the acid-


acid+sugar+ yeast catalyst = alcohol.


there are two ways that it can go--it can turn to vinegar or alcohol-- there are NO in betweens.


The reason I say use fresh raisins is that the white powder on the outside is natural yeast and each grape will blow up as little alcohol factories.

(good eating too afterward.)


You have to keep this in the dark and VENT it-- the byproduct is Co2.

You will know if it is going right because the whole mix will start bubbling like crazy for days..

and it HAS TO be stirred or the sugar will settle.


make it easy and the wine will be STRONG.
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Easiest mix is :

one gallon juice
one gallon HOT water :to dissolve the:
1 lb of sugar.
Yeast

Done and done.

The reast of the stuff is just added cook material.(I like the pulp, old habit)
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Re: Looking for home made apple wine recipes...
Easiest mix is :

one gallon juice
one gallon HOT water :to dissolve the:
1 lb of sugar.
Yeast

Done and done.

The reast of the stuff is just added cook material.(I like the pulp, old habit)
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Thanks a ton, fella. This is exactly the type of recipe
I was looking for. Just one more question and I think
I'll have it. How many ounces of yeast per gallon do
you recommend for this mix and about how long do you think
a 3 gallon mixture would need to work in order to get a decent alcohol content?
(you'll have to excuse my ignorance, I'm new to this stuff)

And thanks again for ya time.
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Re: Looking for home made apple wine recipes...
Just bumping it up to see if Kanigo2, or
anyone else, might be able to answer the
question I had in my 2:05 post.

Thanks
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Sure I am here --sorry I missed the last bump


here easy as sin


(you will love this--do not buy concentrate-- Do not buy juice at the store--DO YOU UNDERSTAND>?-)


Squeeze 1.5 gallons juice-- anykind will work(I prefer grapefruit((more acid)) but any juice will do apple is good-)


1.5 gallon hot water-dissolve the sugar in it




Get a BLACK plastic bag and a 5 gallon bucket(it allows you to pull up the sauce and shake it over days((to mix that sugar))


Yeast of any kind will do-- it is an organism-- so it will grow more-- ((I prefer natural yeast ((like on the outside of grapes))-- the bread yeats always makes the juice vinigarish-((bad))

Except if you use Bread cooked--The reason is the yeast you want can take higher temperatures---

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Are you scared?


here do this for a sample-- it will help ya get going--


Only make One gallon--

1/2 gallon water
1/2 gallon juice
1 lb sugar

some bread raisins and orange peels- in a black bag.(they yeast that YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT--IS THE WHITE POWDER THAT IS ON THE FRUIT--((if fresh))--But if you are scared--

you can go outside- grab a handfull- of anyfruit trees (limes, peaches cherries, hell just about anything-- frigging grass that hasnt been cut will work--yes I am dead serious squeeze the living hell out of it and throw it in--()


Skake twice a day-- and store in the dark.(8-10 days)


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If you have oranges and grapefruit it will taste like vodka and orange juice-- you'll love it--(and the fruit is all bubbly-- You will get used to it-- I enjoy it.

WTh --Its free alchohol..
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I've been making wine for a few years now, it's pretty much the same for each batch all though some of the fruits are sweeter than others.

Here is a good site that I started with, he has a fairly large collection of recipes. I even did the oak leak one. It turned out to be a dry white wine, very good.

[link to winemaking.jackkeller.net]
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I've been making wine for a few years now, it's pretty much the same for each batch all though some of the fruits are sweeter than others.

Here is a good site that I started with, he has a fairly large collection of recipes. I even did the oak leak one. It turned out to be a dry white wine, very good.

[link to winemaking.jackkeller.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 497917



Oh yes...

A dry white wine-- thats a cooker--RIGHT there--


No vinegar--hardly any fruit or sugar left---


Raw-- clear---water and alcohol

By the way this takes practice OP-- Nobody gets it the first time--


Practice is the key--


Start small-- my man-- youll get it..I promise.

But I want to make sure you get off on the right foot.

Try small like I said-

i assume you have a garage and work..

shake it in the mornining-- burp it
shake again in the evening.

One gallon O' hooch...LOL


You will get the hang of it(and its better than beer or this crap ya buy at the store 10-11%, Oh yeah...)
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Oak leaf and btw if you going to use the peals you would want to cut them down into finer pieces. shred them.

For a five gallon batch I would use around 12 pounds of peals with about ten pounds of sugar.
I prefer champaign yeast as it yields a higher alcohol content.

As it is fermenting you can add more sugar for a higher yield in alcohol content. Add it slowly maybe a half a pound at a time. Because too much sugar can kill the yeast along with a lot of other things.

Your main peice of equipment is the hydrometer which read the sugar/alcohol content.

cheers
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1. Apples
2. patience
3. get drunk and party!!@@ W00t
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Never thought of shreading peels on a grater-- That is Kick ass--


Smart as hell-- all the good none of the bad--




OP--


Here Like I said-- all batches have ONLY 2 outcomes-- vinegar means ya have too much acid-

and too hot means the reaction happens to fast--you actually want the organism to grow over time.(it kills the yeast and will make vinegar)

Slow- steady- calm-- and make sure there isnt too much sugar(add more acid).


Too much acid? add more sugar.


Slow steady-- taste--


Only two outcomes...vinegar or sugar(when it goes bad)


The last is a middle ground that makes what you want ---and requires experimentation...

You are the one with the ingredients-- You have to walk through tasting it..easy stuff.
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You also need some pectic enzyme if you want a clear wine from apples.
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Some of my wines have gone as high as 32% It almost like drink a mixed drink.

But the more tastier ones have been around 10 to 15%

I usually like to take it as high as I can though. Get a hydrometer and get used to using it, you can make it how ever to want to.
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You also need some pectic enzyme if you want a clear wine from apples.
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This is why I suggested- a mix..


Look OP--


If they can smash grapes--with the right sugar and acid content and the yeast that is on the outside of the grapes-bottle it- and it turns into alcohol--

even you can do it.


This is a measure of sugar to acid with yeast.


That is it.


Even YOU can look up the proper value to use of acid to sugar.


If it cooks slowly is the kicker---They do not add yeast to wine.
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Some of my wines have gone as high as 32% It almost like drink a mixed drink.

But the more tastier ones have been around 10 to 15%

I usually like to take it as high as I can though. Get a hydrometer and get used to using it, you can make it how ever to want to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 497917



The reason that - these AC's speak this way is that a Hydrometer allows a measurement between a water to ((mixture to, like acid content)).


I prefer to taste..My tounge is a better tool.

But then again.. prison issue..


Like I said the best wine I ever had ---tasted like Vodka/ with a HINT of oranges...

Oh yeah...:)
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Has anyone here ever had real meade?

I had something back in the 70s they said was meade, got it from witches, so who knows.

I know it has honey and herbs, but I'm clueless beyond that.
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Sugar and yeast--

what did it taste like AC?
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for years I have been gathering organic apple go to the amish press then jar gallons of juice.

Somehow I get lucky and make applejack. YUM
That is some good stuff.

I am going to try to make some applejack this time.

Good thread
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Some of my wines have gone as high as 32% It almost like drink a mixed drink.

But the more tastier ones have been around 10 to 15%

I usually like to take it as high as I can though. Get a hydrometer and get used to using it, you can make it how ever to want to.



The reason that - these AC's speak this way is that a Hydrometer allows a measurement between a water to ((mixture to, like acid content)).


I prefer to taste..My tounge is a better tool.

But then again.. prison issue..


Like I said the best wine I ever had ---tasted like Vodka/ with a HINT of oranges...

Oh yeah...:)
 Quoting: Kanigo2

Did it taste like PJ punch? I had some wine like that What Kanigo2 says really is the basic way to do and there is nothing wrong with that. If I were going to do it that way I would take the fermenting process as far to there no longer being any sweetness (Dry)
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BINGO!


But the MOST important-- in my process --IS DO NOT COOK IT FAST.


The more time-- the less yeast the better!(you still need some, Op wanna get crazy with yeast--but the problem is-- that inst whats important-- ONE CELL can make it reproduce-- but it helps if it is mashed--it grows ALL on its own..Kisses liitle organisms..)


Oh yes!--Damn I feel drunk already--i remember it also-- its like a-- HMMmmm bourbon and a hot flash---


but fruity!


Great for sex.
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What did the meade taste like?


Not overly sweet, but heavy, mellow and smokey somehow.
Potent, high ac content.

Hard to remember, but I'd like more.
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BINGO!


But the MOST important-- in my process --IS DO NOT COOK IT FAST.


The more time-- the less yeast the better!(you still need some)


Oh yes!--Damn I feel drunk already--i remember it also-- its like a-- HMMmmm bourbon and a hot flash---


but fruity!


Great for sex.
 Quoting: Kanigo2

That's true true But some times in the past I have put a warmer under the bucket to speed thing up a little. And then let it finish normally.
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What did the meade taste like?


Not overly sweet, but heavy, mellow and smokey somehow.
Potent, high ac content.

Hard to remember, but I'd like more.
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They cooked it in a smoked bucket--

The thickness comes from the wheat powder(they used a cheesecloth to strain it-- never had it-- but i can see HOW they did it-- rough cut grain, provides the yeast! Oh yeah)
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BINGO!


But the MOST important-- in my process --IS DO NOT COOK IT FAST.


The more time-- the less yeast the better!(you still need some, Op wanna get crazy with yeast--but the problem is-- that inst whats important-- ONE CELL can make it reproduce-- but it helps if it is mashed--it grows ALL on its own..Kisses liitle organisms..)


Oh yes!--Damn I feel drunk already--i remember it also-- its like a-- HMMmmm bourbon and a hot flash---


but fruity!


Great for sex.
 Quoting: Kanigo2

Sounds like you've had some experience with this. I made a batch of raisin wine once as a matter of fact it was my fisrt batch ever. I and every one else thought it had psychedelic properties. What would cause that? I like to make some more.

It funny how a batch could turn out like that, I haven't had any thing like it since or made any either. Just came out that way.
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If I were you-- I would Remember that recipe--(you should have made a lot--i would a paid ya for it....


BUT wine is always a goof-- some do and some don't-- you are a LUCKY __LUCKY man.

enjoy the memory:)


Everyone likes a good wine-- Little ergot helps(let the raisins rot a little)
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