BREAKING NEW OUTRAGE: OBAMA WANTS TO ALTER CONSTITUTION TO "REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH" | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 535290 United States 10/27/2008 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.newsmax.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 535290"Obama Attacks Founding Fathers, Constitution Barely noticed in the furor over Barack Obama's remarks dealing with re-distribution was the Illinois Democrat's assault on the Founding Fathers and the Constitution they created. Said Obama: "To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical." What followed that remark was a screed that should frighten the daylights out of any American who understands that the Constitution is the sole and most important safeguard of our rights and our liberties. Without it we are subjects, not citizens. According to Obama if the Constitution "didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and [the] Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties." The document, he argued, "Says what the states can’t do to you, says what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf." That remark shows a shocking ignorance of the purpose of the United States Constitution. Writing in National Review, Bill Whittle explained, "The entire purpose of the Constitution was to limit government." And that's the last thing Barack Obama, a devout worshiper at the shrine of Big Brother government, wants to do. It would stop him from taking your money and giving it to someone else. Obama's remarks would have sent shivers up the spine of Thomas Jefferson, et al. And they should do the same to all thinking Americans who know that without the Constitution as framed by the Founding Fathers to protect our rights and liberties, we would be at the mercy of a powerful and unrestrained Federal Government ruled by power-hungry men like Barack Obama, and not by law." Read the Article: "Smells Like Socialist Spirit" [link to hotair.com] "If people thought Joe the Plumber was some kind of stumble for Barack Obama, a rediscovered interview from 2001 should dispel any doubts about Barack Obama’s redistributionism. Seven years ago, Obama told Chicago Public Radio that the Warren Court was too conservative and missed its opportunity to redistribute wealth on a much grander scale. In fact, Obama wanted them to break the Constitution and reorder American society far outside of what the founders intended." |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 535290 United States 10/27/2008 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.newsmax.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 535290"Obama Attacks Founding Fathers, Constitution Barely noticed in the furor over Barack Obama's remarks dealing with re-distribution was the Illinois Democrat's assault on the Founding Fathers and the Constitution they created. Said Obama: "To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical." What followed that remark was a screed that should frighten the daylights out of any American who understands that the Constitution is the sole and most important safeguard of our rights and our liberties. Without it we are subjects, not citizens. According to Obama if the Constitution "didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and [the] Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties." The document, he argued, "Says what the states can’t do to you, says what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf." That remark shows a shocking ignorance of the purpose of the United States Constitution. Writing in National Review, Bill Whittle explained, "The entire purpose of the Constitution was to limit government." And that's the last thing Barack Obama, a devout worshiper at the shrine of Big Brother government, wants to do. It would stop him from taking your money and giving it to someone else. Obama's remarks would have sent shivers up the spine of Thomas Jefferson, et al. And they should do the same to all thinking Americans who know that without the Constitution as framed by the Founding Fathers to protect our rights and liberties, we would be at the mercy of a powerful and unrestrained Federal Government ruled by power-hungry men like Barack Obama, and not by law." Read the Article: "Smells Like Socialist Spirit" [link to hotair.com] "If people thought Joe the Plumber was some kind of stumble for Barack Obama, a rediscovered interview from 2001 should dispel any doubts about Barack Obama’s redistributionism. Seven years ago, Obama told Chicago Public Radio that the Warren Court was too conservative and missed its opportunity to redistribute wealth on a much grander scale. In fact, Obama wanted them to break the Constitution and reorder American society far outside of what the founders intended." More from the Intelligent Blogger: "The government does not exist to determine the acceptable level of wealth of its individual citizens. For government to assume that role, it would have to end private property rights and assume all property belonged to the State. That is classic Marxism, and as Barbara West of WFTV noted, it runs in Marx’s classic philosophy of “from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs”. That economic direction has been an abject failure everywhere it has been tried, and in many cases resulted in famines that killed millions of people." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 536353 Brazil 10/27/2008 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama's remarks would have sent shivers up the spine of Thomas Jefferson, et al. True enough. But has Mr. McCain said anything about repealing the so-called "PATRIOT Act", or dismantling the all seeing, all hearing, all knowing surviellance networks Bush has set up to spy on the American people? Not that I've heard, he hasn't. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 478838 United States 10/27/2008 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama's remarks would have sent shivers up the spine of Thomas Jefferson, et al. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536353True enough. But has Mr. McCain said anything about repealing the so-called "PATRIOT Act", or dismantling the all seeing, all hearing, all knowing surviellance networks Bush has set up to spy on the American people? Not that I've heard, he hasn't. Jefferson, Adams, Washington etal would have shot him for the traitor he is. |
ThePatriotMind User ID: 519678 United States 10/27/2008 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am saddened some peoples hatred of bush is so great that they are blind to the coming of a potential greater enemy to the america people and way of life ... Fighting and triggering liberals and SJW's in the trenches of their safe spaces since 2014 Signed, The Patriot Mind |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 536353 Brazil 10/27/2008 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | keep cheering on obama dumbasses ... and watch the Constitution dissappear ... he doesnt event try to hide his disdain for the constitution or our founding fathers or the lack of pride him and his wife have for AMerica Quoting: ThePatriotMindI am saddened some peoples hatred of bush is so great that they are blind to the coming of a potential greater enemy to the america people and way of life ... Wasn't your pal Bush the guy that refered to our constitution as "that goddamned piece of paper"? Wasn't Bush the fella that said "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier. Just so long as I'm the dictator." [link to www.youtube.com] Obama isn't an any greater (or lesser) enemy to the American people than your buddy Bush is. He's just the next step down the road, that's all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 536094 United States 10/27/2008 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, Washington, Jefferson and Adams would have seen Obama as a slave, so of course they would have shot him -- for trying to remove wealth (slaves) from American citizens. oops. The Constitution is a failed document. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. It needs an update. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. Jefferson EXPECTED constant changes; it wasn't MEANT to last over 100 years, let alone 50. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 536353 Brazil 10/27/2008 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, Washington, Jefferson and Adams would have seen Obama as a slave, so of course they would have shot him -- for trying to remove wealth (slaves) from American citizens. oops. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536094The Constitution is a failed document. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. It needs an update. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. Jefferson EXPECTED constant changes; it wasn't MEANT to last over 100 years, let alone 50. Jefferson EXPECTED constant changes; it wasn't MEANT to last over 100 years, let alone 50. Oh really. Free free to provide a quote where Mr. Jefferson states anything even remotely like that. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 515391 United States 10/27/2008 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | keep cheering on obama dumbasses ... and watch the Constitution dissappear ... he doesnt event try to hide his disdain for the constitution or our founding fathers or the lack of pride him and his wife have for AMerica Quoting: ThePatriotMindI am saddened some peoples hatred of bush is so great that they are blind to the coming of a potential greater enemy to the america people and way of life ... The Constitution has already been DISMANTLED. Everything is in place that they need RIGHT NOW. Where have you people been for the last 20 years, eh? I do not think it matters WHO gets in. We are fucked big time unless we band together as citizens and take back our rights. Class wars have been going on for the last 20yrs. First they came for the middle class. They siphoned any and all wealth from them. Now they are going after the upper middle class. Soon everyone but the top 2% will be on par with those who scrape by, or live in poverty. Wake the fuck up people. |
Brwnstown User ID: 526783 United States 10/27/2008 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, Washington, Jefferson and Adams would have seen Obama as a slave, so of course they would have shot him -- for trying to remove wealth (slaves) from American citizens. oops. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536353The Constitution is a failed document. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. It needs an update. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. Jefferson EXPECTED constant changes; it wasn't MEANT to last over 100 years, let alone 50. Jefferson EXPECTED constant changes; it wasn't MEANT to last over 100 years, let alone 50. Oh really. Free free to provide a quote where Mr. Jefferson states anything even remotely like that. Its soul purpose is to protect the people from the government. The governments only job is to protect the country and the people period. The individual states are suppose to do the rest. And congress is suppose to coin money but they gave that right up with the fed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 536094 United States 10/27/2008 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whatever be the Constitution, great care must be taken to provide a mode of amendment when experience or change of circumstances shall have manifested that any part of it is unadapted to the good of the nation. In some of our States it requires a new authority from the whole people, acting by their representatives, chosen for this express purpose, and assembled in convention. This is found too difficult for remedying the imperfections which experience develops from time to time in an organization of the first impression. A greater facility of ammendment is certainly requisite to maintain it in a course of action accommodated to the times and changes through which we are ever passing." --Thomas Jefferson to A. Coray, 1823. ME 15:488 "Time and changes in the condition and constitution of society may require occasional and corresponding modifications." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Livingston, 1825. ME 16:113 "Nothing is more likely than that [the] enumeration of powers is defective. This is the ordinary case of all human works. Let us then go on perfecting it by adding by way of amendment to the Constitution those powers which time and trial show are still wanting." --Thomas Jefferson to Wilson Nicholas, 1803. ME 10:419 "Our government wanted bracing. Still, we must take care not to run from one extreme to another; not to brace too high." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Rutledge, 1788. ME 7:81 "We have always a right to correct ancient errors and to establish what is more conformable to reason and convenience." -- Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1801. FE 8:82 "We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:41 "[Algernon Sidney wrote in Discourses Concerning Government, Sect. II, Par 13,] 'All human constitutions are subject to corruption and must perish unless they are timely renewed and reduced to their first principles.'" --Thomas Jefferson: copied into his Commonplace Book. "Happy for us that when we find our constitutions defective and insufficient to secure the happiness of our people, we can assemble with all the coolness of philosophers and set it to rights, while every other nation on earth must have recourse to arms to amend or to restore their constitutions." --Thomas Jefferson to C. W. F. Dumas, 1787. ME 6:295, Papers 12:113 "The European governments have resisted reformation until the people, seeing no other resource, undertake it themselves by force, their only weapon, and work it out through blood, desolation and long-continued anarchy. Here it will be by large fragments breaking off, and refusing re-union but on condition of amendment, or perhaps permanently." --Thomas Jefferson to Robert J. Garnett, 1824. ME 16:15 "The example of changing a constitution by assembling the wise men of the State instead of assembling armies will be worth as much to the world as the former examples we had given them." --Thomas Jefferson to David Humphreys, 1789. ME 7:322 "I willingly acquiesce in the institutions of my country, perfect or imperfect, and think it a duty to leave their modifications to those who are to live under them and are to participate of the good or evil they may produce. The present generation has the same right of self-government which the past one has exercised for itself." --Thomas Jefferson to John Hampden Pleasants, 1824. ME 16:29 "Our children will be as wise as we are and will establish in the fulness of time those things not yet ripe for establishment." --Thomas Jefferson to John Tyler, 1810. ME 12:394 "Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence and deem them like the ark of the covenant, too sacred to be touched. They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment. I knew that age well; I belonged to it and labored with it. It deserved well of its country. It was very like the present but without the experience of the present; and forty years of experience in government is worth a century of book-reading; and this they would say themselves were they to rise from the dead." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:40 "I am certainly not an advocate for frequent and untried changes in laws and constitutions. I think moderate imperfections had better be borne with; because, when once known, we accomodate ourselves to them and find practical means of correcting their ill effects. But I know also that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also and keep pace with the times." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:40 "A generation may bind itself as long as its majority continues in life; when that has disappeared, another majority is in place, holds all the rights and powers their predecessors once held and may change their laws and institutions to suit themselves. Nothing then is unchangeable but the inherent and unalienable rights of man." --Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824. ME 16:48 "Every constitution, then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of nineteen years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right. It may be said, that the succeeding generation exercising, in fact, the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law had been expressly limited to nineteen years only. In the first place, this objection admits the right, in proposing an equivalent. But the power of repeal is not an equivalent. It might be, indeed, if every form of government were so perfectly contrived, that the will of the majority could always be obtained, fairly and without impediment. But this is true of no form. The people cannot assemble themselves; their representation is unequal and vicious. Various checks are opposed to every legislative proposition. Factions get possession of the public councils, bribery corrupts them, personal interests lead them astray from the general interests of their constituents; and other impediments arise, so as to prove to every practical man, that a law of limited duration is much more manageable than one which needs a repeal." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1789. ME 7:459, Papers 15:396 |
ThePatriotMind User ID: 519678 United States 10/27/2008 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wasn't your pal Bush the guy that refered to our constitution as "that goddamned piece of paper"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536353Wasn't Bush the fella that said "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier. Just so long as I'm the dictator." [link to www.youtube.com] Obama isn't an any greater (or lesser) enemy to the American people than your buddy Bush is. He's just the next step down the road, that's all. If you would bother to go to my blog address below or read most of my post you would see I am hardly a bush fan :) Fighting and triggering liberals and SJW's in the trenches of their safe spaces since 2014 Signed, The Patriot Mind |
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ThePatriotMind User ID: 519678 United States 10/27/2008 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, Washington, Jefferson and Adams would have seen Obama as a slave, so of course they would have shot him -- for trying to remove wealth (slaves) from American citizens. oops. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536094The Constitution is a failed document. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. It needs an update. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. Jefferson EXPECTED constant changes; it wasn't MEANT to last over 100 years, let alone 50. /sigh Fighting and triggering liberals and SJW's in the trenches of their safe spaces since 2014 Signed, The Patriot Mind |
Oli User ID: 515477 Australia 10/27/2008 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to Obama if the Constitution "didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and [the] Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 535290The document, he argued, "Says what the states can’t do to you, says what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf." That remark shows a shocking ignorance of the purpose of the United States Constitution. Writing in National Review, Bill Whittle explained, "The entire purpose of the Constitution was to limit government." And that's the last thing Barack Obama, a devout worshiper at the shrine of Big Brother government, wants to do. It would stop him from taking your money and giving it to someone else. Obama's remarks would have sent shivers up the spine of Thomas Jefferson, et al. And they should do the same to all thinking Americans who know that without the Constitution as framed by the Founding Fathers to protect our rights and liberties, we would be at the mercy of a powerful and unrestrained Federal Government ruled by power-hungry men like Barack Obama, and not by law." Read the Article: "Smells Like Socialist Spirit" [link to hotair.com] "If people thought Joe the Plumber was some kind of stumble for Barack Obama, a rediscovered interview from 2001 should dispel any doubts about Barack Obama’s redistributionism. Seven years ago, Obama told Chicago Public Radio that the Warren Court was too conservative and missed its opportunity to redistribute wealth on a much grander scale. In fact, Obama wanted them to break the Constitution and reorder American society far outside of what the founders intended." More from the Intelligent Blogger: "The government does not exist to determine the acceptable level of wealth of its individual citizens. For government to assume that role, it would have to end private property rights and assume all property belonged to the State. That is classic Marxism, and as Barbara West of WFTV noted, it runs in Marx’s classic philosophy of “from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs”. That economic direction has been an abject failure everywhere it has been tried, and in many cases resulted in famines that killed millions of people." As long ago as 1855 Disraeli wrote: "The basis of English society is equality. But let us distinguish:there are two kinds of equality; there is the equality that levels and destroys, and the equality that elevates and creates. It is this last,this sublime,this celestial equality,that animates the laws of England. The principle of the first equality,base,terrestrial,Galic and grovelling,is that no one should be privileged: the principle of English equality is that everyone should be privileged. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 536094 United States 10/27/2008 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, Washington, Jefferson and Adams would have seen Obama as a slave, so of course they would have shot him -- for trying to remove wealth (slaves) from American citizens. oops. Quoting: ThePatriotMindThe Constitution is a failed document. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. It needs an update. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. Jefferson EXPECTED constant changes; it wasn't MEANT to last over 100 years, let alone 50. /sigh Sigh as you want, I even quoted Jefferson on his expectation -- 19 years! ONE GENERATION! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 535290 United States 10/27/2008 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, Washington, Jefferson and Adams would have seen Obama as a slave, so of course they would have shot him -- for trying to remove wealth (slaves) from American citizens. oops. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536353The Constitution is a failed document. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. It needs an update. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. Jefferson EXPECTED constant changes; it wasn't MEANT to last over 100 years, let alone 50. Jefferson EXPECTED constant changes; it wasn't MEANT to last over 100 years, let alone 50. Oh really. Free free to provide a quote where Mr. Jefferson states anything even remotely like that. OBAMA'S REMARKS show a shocking ignorance of the purpose of the United States Constitution. Writing in National Review, Bill Whittle explained, "The entire purpose of the Constitution was to limit government." OBAMA is a twit. |
Oli User ID: 515477 Australia 10/27/2008 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The government does not exist to determine the acceptable level of wealth of its individual citizens. For government to assume that role, it would have to end private property As long ago as 1855 Disraeli wrote: "The basis of English society is equality. But let us distinguish:there are two kinds of equality; there is the equality that levels and destroys, and the equality that elevates and creates. It is this last,this sublime,this celestial equality,that animates the laws of England. The principle of the first equality,base,terrestrial,Galic and grovelling,is that no one should be privileged: the principle of English equality is that everyone should be privileged. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 536094 United States 10/27/2008 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, Washington, Jefferson and Adams would have seen Obama as a slave, so of course they would have shot him -- for trying to remove wealth (slaves) from American citizens. oops. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 535290The Constitution is a failed document. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. It needs an update. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. Jefferson EXPECTED constant changes; it wasn't MEANT to last over 100 years, let alone 50. Jefferson EXPECTED constant changes; it wasn't MEANT to last over 100 years, let alone 50. Oh really. Free free to provide a quote where Mr. Jefferson states anything even remotely like that. OBAMA'S REMARKS show a shocking ignorance of the purpose of the United States Constitution. Writing in National Review, Bill Whittle explained, "The entire purpose of the Constitution was to limit government." OBAMA is a twit. Who is "Bill Whittle"? Is he a Constitutional Lawyer? Oops. I think Obama knows what he is talking about. The purpose is to limit the government? How so? That's why it is a vague comment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 536353 Brazil 10/27/2008 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, Washington, Jefferson and Adams would have seen Obama as a slave, so of course they would have shot him -- for trying to remove wealth (slaves) from American citizens. oops. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536094The Constitution is a failed document. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. It needs an update. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. Jefferson EXPECTED constant changes; it wasn't MEANT to last over 100 years, let alone 50. /sigh Sigh as you want, I even quoted Jefferson on his expectation -- 19 years! ONE GENERATION! Link please. The internet is full of quotes from Mr. Jefferson. Give us a link to this one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 502659 United States 10/27/2008 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | any and all powers not expressly granted to government in the constitution are inherently denied Quoting: Anonymous Coward 482097sorry Barack, you lose It does seem that he is ignoring the 9th and 10th Amendments, but that's not too strange for him as he also wants to ignore the 2nd. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 502659 United States 10/27/2008 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It cannot be done by Executive Order either. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 536094 United States 10/27/2008 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, Washington, Jefferson and Adams would have seen Obama as a slave, so of course they would have shot him -- for trying to remove wealth (slaves) from American citizens. oops. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536353The Constitution is a failed document. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. It needs an update. LIVE WITH THAT FACT. Jefferson EXPECTED constant changes; it wasn't MEANT to last over 100 years, let alone 50. /sigh Sigh as you want, I even quoted Jefferson on his expectation -- 19 years! ONE GENERATION! Link please. The internet is full of quotes from Mr. Jefferson. Give us a link to this one. READ THE FREAKING QUOTES ABOVE YOU IDIOT. IT EVEN GIVES SOURCES YOU IDIOT. IT TELLS YOU WHERE YOU IDIOT. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 502659 United States 10/27/2008 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More from the Intelligent Blogger: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 535290"The government does not exist to determine the acceptable level of wealth of its individual citizens. For government to assume that role, it would have to end private property rights and assume all property belonged to the State. That is classic Marxism, and as Barbara West of WFTV noted, it runs in Marx’s classic philosophy of “from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs”. That economic direction has been an abject failure everywhere it has been tried, and in many cases resulted in famines that killed millions of people." Marx took a paraphase from the Bible in the book of Acts, but he leaves out that such property that the Apostles were distributing were indeed Free Will donations to the cause and not coerced in any fashion, except that once you had pledged your donation you were fully expected to make it fact. Marx would have had all property to be the property of the State including the "Human Capital". Hence, the Human Capital was property of the State to be redistributed however the State felt best. Meaning the power to relocate any person to any location and any occupation or pay grade the State deemed necessary. It even goes into Eugenics and Forced Selective breeding of the Human Race. From all that I have read of Obama's writings and listened to of his own speeches (with out other's commentaries and editorials) I reach a conclusion long before he announced his run for the US Senate that he was a clandestine, dyed in the wool Marxist. Hearing his latest speeches today I remain of the same opinion. He is not a Socialist, he is a Marxist Communist. IMHO. |