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Magick for beginners and the power of thinking in abstract terms.

 
canislatrans
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Magick for beginners and the power of thinking in abstract terms.
First of all, this thread isn't really about magick(magick being the active manipulation of the energy that surrounds us and everything we can see or know), but it's a good start for those interested in learning how to practice but really have no idea how to begin. Working with magick is a subtle practice, with very little in the physical to serve as an indication of your progress until you learn how things operate on a larger scale. To first be able to do this, you need to learn to think about things in abstract terms.

Take a look at the picture below:

:sunset5:

I am assuming you can see the outline of the mountains against the sunset. Now, as a practice, imagine that outline inversed, draw the sky in your mind as the ground and geography, and take the landscape in the picture and imagine it as the sky. Can you see the new outline of the mountains, inversed?

If I explained that out properly, and you are able to see and understand what I am talking about, then you have not necessarily practiced magick, but you have taken the first step towards learning how to work with it. Can you see the world inverted through the picture above? This works exactly the same way as being able to see two sides of an optical illusion, just like the old woman/young lady picture as below:

[link to www.noblur.com]

Working with magick comes in steps, and the more you reach out for it the more you will find it (the law of fives). To be able to work with magick, you first have to be able to think of and understand the world in concepts that allow you to relate to the energies that, when manipulated, is the practice of magick.

As stated before, it is a subtle practice, so to learn to work with magick, you have to learn to see the subtleties that lie in every day life. You have to learn to "invert the sunset" in everything you look at and perceive. Once you learn to do this as a practice, you will be able to notice many hidden things that are plain as day right before everyone's eyes... if only they knew what to look for or how to look! Not only to look, but see.

Everything expands out from here. This is merely the beginning. Like anything new, it is most difficult at the beginning, when there is no indication that you are improving or that you are actually doing anything at all. Persist, my friend, and you will find that you will bring to you the things that you will for most. Remember, that is a double edged sword, and if you ever get stuck, remember to invert the sunset. ;)

Depending on how this thread goes I may make more. To those of you who believe I am speaking utter nonsense, just remember..

if you know, you know. ;)

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I'm intrigued, tell me more.
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good outside the box info... 5 stars
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I had a book once, Drawing with the right side of your brain it was called, and one of the exercises was to do what you are talking about, I think.

Seeking the inverse of the image and using it to draw only the lines you see and not the whole picture. In fact, you were to place the pic upside down to draw from it.

It really made me kinda go into the "zone" and the pic I drew, when finished wasn't half bad (and I'm no artist)

Anyway, that zone feeling was great, and the more I practiced seeing only the lines and not the whole picture, the easier it was to get to that state of mind.

Is that kinda what you are talking about??

Always enjoy your posts Canis! Keep em coming

~~M
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I had a book once, Drawing with the right side of your brain it was called, and one of the exercises was to do what you are talking about, I think.

Seeking the inverse of the image and using it to draw only the lines you see and not the whole picture. In fact, you were to place the pic upside down to draw from it.

It really made me kinda go into the "zone" and the pic I drew, when finished wasn't half bad (and I'm no artist)

Anyway, that zone feeling was great, and the more I practiced seeing only the lines and not the whole picture, the easier it was to get to that state of mind.

Is that kinda what you are talking about??

Always enjoy your posts Canis! Keep em coming

~~M
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Although I haven't read that book, I know what you are talking about inside it, and it is the same as what I am talking about. Thanks for expounding a little, as you know these types of things aren't easily described by words. :)

My exercise can be described as 'drawing the sunset from the perspective of the sky'. Draw the sky first. :)
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I'm intrigued, tell me more.
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Browse through my other created posts, there are already a few that are related.
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hey, thanks for posting this
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hey, thanks for posting this
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Anytime. :) Thanks for reading.
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Excellent post! You are a born teacher.

My first experience was shamanic, laying in bed in complete darkness I could see a green glow in my room and when I passed my hands across my chest I could see its shadow on the cieling. I was seeing a light of subtle energy emitting from the solar plexis- the soul.

Once I stared at my hands for a long time and eventually I could see something that looked like smoke rising from my fingertips. It was spirit or chi, and I could direct it with my mind, make it flow towards objects, etc.

Then I realized how space and time were illusions and only the energy was real, and I started projecting my conciousness into the "spirit world" and seeing with "spirit vision" and I would receive these beautiful communications from the subconcious mind which I think is really the Monad, communications that would teach me about the mysteries of the self, of transformation.

And then of course I realized how you could bend reality and manipulate others with these skills, communicate with entities of dubious character and I succumbed to the dark side- using the skills for my own personal gain and ego gratification. lol.
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open your 3rd eye fully and then you can learn magic and stuff.
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Yup, connecting the "dots". hf
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Now i understand a bit better where you are coming from.
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Now i understand a bit better where you are coming from.
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Thank you. Jesus was a great teacher of magick.
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Good post 5 stars. keep them coming. I agree with your view of Jesus.
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Cani I hope you keep this up. I can see what you mean with that example. Very nice job!
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Started to look stale.
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Cani I hope you keep this up. I can see what you mean with that example. Very nice job!
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Glad you liked. :)
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Coyote Medicine Man...good stuff. please tell us more.

:)
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Coyote Medicine Man...good stuff. please tell us more.

:)
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There is an entire world, and more, hidden right before our eyes. Anyone can look where it all is, but only a few can actually see it.
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Great to see this info being presented in a thoughtful, non-hysterical way. Unfortunately, Canis, I don't see any previous threads dealing with magick or changing perspective when I look at your profile. I'd like to hear more, and specifically to find subtle ways I can use magick to overcome fears and open up.
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Great to see this info being presented in a thoughtful, non-hysterical way. Unfortunately, Canis, I don't see any previous threads dealing with magick or changing perspective when I look at your profile. I'd like to hear more, and specifically to find subtle ways I can use magick to overcome fears and open up.
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me too......that has always been a problem for me....thinking (recognizing) things outside the box.....you made it very easy with this example. thank you
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Started doing this on my own as a kid, and still enjoy it. I guess I just assumed everyone has done this before. Interesting to see another one of my assumptions bite the dust...lol
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There is another world but we are conditioned not to see it I guess.

Pls more, next lesson ;)

Sex magic next?

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I like you and your work, coyote.
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hf you always have such great threads :-)
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Great to see this info being presented in a thoughtful, non-hysterical way. Unfortunately, Canis, I don't see any previous threads dealing with magick or changing perspective when I look at your profile. I'd like to hear more, and specifically to find subtle ways I can use magick to overcome fears and open up.


me too......that has always been a problem for me....thinking (recognizing) things outside the box.....you made it very easy with this example. thank you
 Quoting: Treasure Bound


Meanwhile no one has considered the inverse of the picture would be a sunrise. Nothing is "hidden", magick has been practised for thousands of years in different forms, however just like walking you need to learn one step at a time.
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Which magickal system is your strongest influence OP? (Hermetic, Chaos, Raja, etc).
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As above so below the picture looks to me when I look at it through a negative reversed way you suggested. Very nice
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Seeing is passive, how to be active? Interaction and manipulation you speak of? influence of the illusionary, how to touch that which does not exist?

moving with my hands, or influencing someone else to do it for me gets me no where...
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Great to see this info being presented in a thoughtful, non-hysterical way. Unfortunately, Canis, I don't see any previous threads dealing with magick or changing perspective when I look at your profile. I'd like to hear more, and specifically to find subtle ways I can use magick to overcome fears and open up.
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Here are some related threads that can help:

Thread: Seven Steps for Overcoming Ego’s Hold on You

Thread: [Shamanism] Directions for dancing your power animal

I plan on making more in the future, but I have to tread carefully.
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Started doing this on my own as a kid, and still enjoy it. I guess I just assumed everyone has done this before. Interesting to see another one of my assumptions bite the dust...lol
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The more I learn, the more I wonder why everyone else isn't already doing it! I know how you feel.
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