Is there ANYTHING that could change the mind of an Obama supporter?

^- POLICY.

Yeah, the right should nominate real candidates for President.

McCain/Palin is the best they could do? Really?

Nope. He's a solid family man who has amazing leadership skills.

And why would we change our minds? To have a nasty old man and an airhead run the country . . . into the ground?

Thorazine?

POLICY

HMMMMM, one chart shows a tax decrease for everyone, and a larger overall tax cut ie government taking less money from citizens. The other shows plundering of the top two tax classes to redistribute, and barely a cut at all.

What leadership he has been a senator for 2 yrs and spent the whole time running for president. He has no leadership skills.
Check his freaking voting record when its something tough he votes present. Look at his own state of Illinois its a total mess and they dont have republican at all in the state in power its all liberals and there crime rate is way up, schools are a mess, no jobs etc. but obama is going to fix the country when he could not even work with other libs in his own state to fix it?

I cant wait to see all of you blind supporters freak out when even half of what everyone is afraid of about him becomes true and he starts changing alright and not for the better.

Obama turning into an old white guy.

Maybe a third party candidate.i don't agree with Obama and McCain on many issues.

Bank bailout


Tax plan-Both will add debt

Increasing military funding.-I want cuts across the board and especialy in defense.McCain I think will be the least likely to keep defense spending under control.

Healthcare-Both will fail to bring reform.I would ar least like to see medicasl savings account be a required option by any employer that offers healthcare so it will be easier for me to keep my insurance between jobs or if i change jobs.If I had to pick sides on this it would be for Obama's plan

When your blind your blind it doesn't matter what he does.

You switch McCain's Policy with Obama's and get rid of that STUPID BITCH( o i love to type that in caps ) that's one heartbeat away and it's negotiable.

Are a grumpy 72 year old 3 time cancer patient ex-POW senator followed many Bush administration paths...along with his 1 1/2 year hokey far right-winged governor of Alaska...

REALLY THAT APPEALING TO THE AMERICAN VOTER?

Remember OP...they also believe that Bill Ayres is a freedom fighter.

If Obama confessed to TREASON, these morons would still support him.

They all know all about him and they dont give a shit about anything he has done. It isnt an issue about whether they believe it or not. They believe it and it doesnt matter.

They are like a guy who marries a hooker. He loves her for what she is.

More lies will not help how we feel about Obama, accept it.

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Someone needs to post another thread about how he's the antichrist or not American or a communist. Or all three. I think we're at the tipping point here, one more thread should do it.

Er,seriously.. should know better, there are fanatics everywhere, it's very human to close your eyes and ignore what doesn't work for you.

so anything and everything that might be negative for Obama is automatically a lie?

uhhhhh, yeah all of the above and the fact that we know their backgrounds, unlike ho hum ...obamas "buddies"....oh yeah, he doesnt have anything to do with them!! what was i thinking??

<<<“I’d institute a policy that I call ‘rogue state rollback,’” McCain said during a GOP primary debate in February 2000. “I would arm, train, equip, both from without and from within, forces that would eventually overthrow the governments and install free and democratically elected governments.” Though Bush himself would not embrace McCain’s weltanshauung until after 9/11, this approach to global affairs would eventually become known as the Bush Doctrine.

Here is a transcript from Larry Kings interview [link to www.pbs.org]

yes mccain saw combat, and with respect to his POW experience, he is an exceptional man, however, being a POW doesn't magically make you president material.

for instance: "McCain began as a sub-par flier[17] who was at times careless and reckless;[18] during the early-to-mid 1960s, the planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines, but he received no major injuries.[18] His aviation skills improved over time,[17] and he was seen as a good pilot, albeit one who tended to "push the envelope" in his flying.[18]" from [link to en.wikipedia.org]

also from National Public Radio which is a not-for-profit membership organization: McCain's own temperament has been dissected by authors, political analysts, opponents and McCain himself — who has recounted how he started out as a cocky, rebellious Navy flyer who proudly collected hundreds of demerits at the Naval Academy. "As a young man, I would respond aggressively and sometimes irresponsibly to anyone whom I perceived to have questioned my sense of honor and self-respect," he said. McCain's detractors charge that his ability to resist his Vietnamese captors so fiercely has a flip side — recklessness.

Former Vietnam POW Philip Butler appears in an ad, aired by an independent left-of-center group, attacking McCain.

"He was well-known as a very volatile guy, and he would blow up and go off like a Roman candle," Butler says in the ad. "John McCain is not somebody I would like to see with his finger near the red button."

Thad Cochran, a Republican conservative senator from Mississippi, says "the thought of John McCain in the White House sends cold chills down his spine."

McCain himself — often his own toughest critic — has written that he has a nasty temper and that it has caused him to make some serious mistakes.


McCain's foreign policy experience is exceptional. but so is biden's. obama's temperament is better than mccains. bush has adopted obama's foreign policy over the last few months. a clear break from the "bush doctrine" which was designed on mccains ideas. that's why over the last few months, bush has pushed for a time line withdrawal in iraq, and sitting down at the table with iran.

mccain wants "victory" in iraq, but never has defined what victory means. he says "victory in Iraq within sight". sounds close to "mission accomplished" to me. he's been saying this since september of 2007.

and keep in mind that it is not just the result of the surge that is supressing american death's in iraq. it also because we are paying about $16 million dollars a month to members of the Sons of Iraq. Petraeus emphasized during his testimony that the "savings in vehicles not lost because of reduced violence — not to mention the priceless lives saved — have far outweighed the cost of their monthly contracts. so we are paying iraqis to not fight.if the surge was the end all be all we wouldn't have to pay $16 million a month to a country with an $80 billion dollar surplus.


Bush:
Yale GPA 2.35 B.A in history.

Obama:
Occidental College (Los Angeles) - 2 years studying Politics and Public Policy.
Columbia University (New York) - B.A. Political Science with a specialization in International Relations.
Harvard Law School - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude (4.0 GPA), Editor-in-Chief of the Harvard Law Review.

Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and a B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 of 899.

Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester - Business Administration.
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - General Studies.
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - Journalism.
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester.
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism.

draw your own conclusion.

Well, isn't that ironic...

John McCain actually married a whore... A woman he picked up in a bar of all places...

Who actually marries bar-hopping white trash?

Hell he even called her a trollop cunt...

You really know your "guys"...

However, even that is an illusion, because Obama will allow the previous tax cut law to expire, which will raise taxes back to Clinton levels.

McCain has promised to renew the older tax cuts already in place.

Factor that in for the true picture.

What?? You DARE question an Obama supporter??

GET OFF THE PLANE!!

NOTHING WHATSOEVER! He is the CHANGE WE NEED!

Nope.

Chaaaaange

I would love to see a pic of you. Me thinks you are a little fucking pussy.

I really believe if people stopped playing the right versus left game we could create a grassroots effort to force change.As long as we keep bickering we will only react after the fact as we always do.

a bullet in the head.

if McCain waves an American flag at an AIPAC meeting and shouts America First! America First!

I might vote for him.

During Barack Obama’s career in the United States Senate, he was a strong proponent of tougher measures to fight crime and provide more resources to local law enforcement officers:

Barack co-sponsored legislation that became the first major anti-meth federal law.
He supported the COPS programs that provided much-needed resources to local police officers.
He cosponsored a bill creating a national database on sex offenders: [link to www.nsopr.gov]
And he voted to reauthorize the landmark Violence Against Women Act.

As a state senator, Obama worked tirelessly to make our streets safer by toughening drug laws and gang legislation. Barack supported increasing penalties for marijuana possession, and got tough on gangs in Chicago – making recruiting for a gang at schools a crime.

Barack also made it easier for victims and their families to find closure after experiencing a vicious crime. By removing the statue of limitations for first-degree murder and extending it for sexual crimes in Illinois, Barack opened doors for law enforcement to prosecute more cases.

For their tough records on crime, Barack Obama and Joe Biden earned the endorsement of the National Association of Police Organizations, a group that represents over 2,000 police organizations across the United States.

The McCain campaign’s attempt to smear Barack’s record on crime is just another example of the desperate, negative tactics his campaign has embraced. Fight back with the truth: make sure anyone who has seen this smear also sees this page.

Obama Passed Law Removing the Statute of Limitations on First Degree Murder. Obama sponsored a bill and voted to amend the Criminal Code of 1961 to provide that a prosecution for attempt to commit first degree murder may be commenced at any time (instead of within 7 years after commission of the offense). [91st GA, HB 2888, 1999, PA 91-0801, 00-06-13]


Obama Voted To Ensure That If A Person Uses A Gun During A Crime, The Penalties Are Increased. Obama voted to amend the Criminal Code of 1961 and the Unified Code of Corrections. Increases the penalties for certain offenses if the person committed the offense while armed with a firearm, personally discharged a firearm during the commission of the offense, or personally discharged a firearm that proximately caused great bodily harm, permanent disability, permanent disfigurement, or death to any person during the commission of the offense. Provides that it is the intent of the General Assembly that, if Public Act 88-680 is declared unconstitutional, the changes made by that Public Act to Article 33A of the Criminal Code of 1961 and are set forth as law in this amendatory Act of 1999 are hereby reenacted by this amendatory Act of 1999. [91 GA SB 1112 3R P 56-0-0, 3/25/99; Concur HA 2 59-0-0, 5/18/99; PA 91-0404, 8/2/99]

JULY 13th 2006
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 4615 to H.R. 5441
Prevents any part of the Department of Homeland Security budget from being used to confiscate guns. This would include allocations to state and local law enforcement.

[link to www.senate.gov]