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Those who believe Obama is the antichrist/ those who believe in Revelations, come inside
Answer me this, I'm curious.

In Revelations the whole world is pretty much destroyed, God comes back and gets his people, etc. So, if you believe the wrath of God is coming, as per revelations, why would you pretend that not voting for Obama will NOT bring about the wrath of God and what is written in Revelations?

What I wanna know is, why all the fuss about who is gonna win the election? It doesn't really matter does it, if God already has a plan? Wouldn't vehemently opposing the things happening now in the world be a sign of your lack of faith in God's plan?
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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what I wanna know does the god of the bible actually exist.
It's time for us to fight back against these socialist scumbags

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Where in Revelations does it talk about an Anti Christ? Can you quote me any passages in Revelations?
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what I wanna know does the god of the bible actually exist.
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Sure does, Lucifer is very real, just ask the secret society types who formed all the religions of the world around him.
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Where in Revelations does it talk about an Anti Christ? Can you quote me any passages in Revelations?
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No, I cannot, since you are correct. However you would agree that there are many people who do believe in such a thing. My questions are directed towards them.
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Where in Revelations does it talk about an Anti Christ? Can you quote me any passages in Revelations?
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christians been playing with your tail today or have you decided it would be great fun to chase it indy
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It is the Christian's duty to resist evil. There is no guarantee just when the Tribulation will start. It could begin now, or it could still be sometime in the future. Voting against Obama is part of the fight against evil.

It's not a fight to dethrone the coming Antichrist, or even to overthrow the NWO, as Christians know that only Jesus Himself will be able to put down this great evil. But Christians should still resist the overwhelming evil in the world, and help to reduce its imposed suffering wherever they can.
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christians been playing with your tail today or have you decided it would be great fun to chase it indy
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Just curious about some things is all!
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It is the Christian's duty to resist evil. There is no guarantee just when the Tribulation will start. It could begin now, or it could still be sometime in the future. Voting against Obama is part of the fight against evil.

It's not a fight to dethrone the coming Antichrist, or even to overthrow the NWO, as Christians know that only Jesus Himself will be able to put down this great evil. But Christians should still resist the overwhelming evil in the world, and help to reduce its imposed suffering wherever they can.
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Thanks for clarifying, however I didn't realize it was clear that Obama is evil. Is there a verse in the bible that picks him out, or did you ask God yourself?
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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Answer me this, I'm curious.

In Revelations the whole world is pretty much destroyed, God comes back and gets his people, etc. So, if you believe the wrath of God is coming, as per revelations, why would you pretend that not voting for Obama will NOT bring about the wrath of God and what is written in Revelations?

What I wanna know is, why all the fuss about who is gonna win the election? It doesn't really matter does it, if God already has a plan? Wouldn't vehemently opposing the things happening now in the world be a sign of your lack of faith in God's plan?
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NOT A BIG BIBLE THUMPER HERE BUT DOESNT IT SAY THAT "NO ONE WILL KNOW WHEN?" I TEND TO BELIEVE IN THE 2012 THEORY MYSELF AS THE MYANS AND MANY OTHERS WHO EXISTED LONG BEFORE THE CHRISTIANS. I DO BELIEVE THE BIBLE GIVE INFORMATION BASED UPON MANY THEORIES AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A "BAD MAN" AND I DOOOOO BELIEVE THAT MAN IS BARACK OBAMA. NOW I THINK, CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG THAT IN THE BIBLE IT DOES STATE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO CHANGE "THE END" SOMEHOW. SO IF PEOPLE WAKE THE HELL UP AND JUST STOP THINKING OF THIS NEW "CHANGE" THATS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE (CHANGE IN WHAT EXACTLY, OUR FREEDOM?) AND START THINKING ABOUT WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT "CHANGE" REGARDING THE ANTI-CHRIST IF THERE SO BE ONE. NOTHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT 2012 BUT IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY SAY IT IS THE END, IT SAYS IT IS THE NEW BEGINNING. WE AS PEOPLE ARE IN CHARGE OF OUR OWN DESTINY, WE WERE GIVEN CHOICES TO BE MADE AND IM VERY AFRAID THAT MORE PEOPLE WILL MAKE THE WRONG CHOICE. WHO KNOWS, THIS MAY BE A TEST? NO ONE TRULY KNOWS WHAT ANY OF IT MEANS BUT WHY TAKE THE CHANCE ON VOTING FOR SOMEONE WHO SO OBVIOUSLY LOOKS LIKE ONE SCARY DUDE WITH A VERY SHADY PAST??? IN THE END, I DONT THINK IT MATTERS, I THINK THAT SOMEHOW, OBAMA WILL WIN ANYWAY, WHETHER ITS LEGAL OR NOT!
"If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten"
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you hate America so much that you think we will be the ones to give rise to the anti-christ?

please 'rapture' yourself the hell out of here!
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you hate America so much that you think we will be the ones to give rise to the anti-christ?

please 'rapture' yourself the hell out of here!
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I hate America AND freedom!
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Curiostiy sounded a bit like you were hunting, :happybunny:
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Thanks for clarifying, however I didn't realize it was clear that Obama is evil. Is there a verse in the bible that picks him out, or did you ask God yourself?
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You must be bored today....Christians should quit answering, since it's just for your pure entertainment. Prayer is always a better options, nothing you can do about that, and God may actually soften your rotten, hard heart. All you have to do is listen to Obama (and you...) to know that your hearts are evil.
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Where in Revelations does it talk about an Anti Christ? Can you quote me any passages in Revelations?

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No anti christ in there.
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Where in Revelations does it talk about an Anti Christ? Can you quote me any passages in Revelations?
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In the Book of Revelation, the Antichrist is called "The Beast."
Revelation 11:7
Revelation 13:1-4

In the Book of Daniel, he is called "The prince that shall come."
Daniel 9:26

In the Books of John and 2nd Thessalonians, he is called the "Son of Perdition"
John 17:12
2 Thessalonians 2:3

But the word "Antichrist" is in the Bible. It is both used to represent the big End Times Antichrist, as well as people who have behaved like the Antichrist, basically, people who actively fight against Jesus Christ, thus they are "anti"-Christs.
1 John 2:18,22
1 John 4:3 <-- this one's for you Saxxon hf
2 John 1:7

The word "Bible" is not in the Bible. We just use it as a descriptive. There are several different descriptive words for the same things in the Bible. The same goes for the Antichrist in Revelation. Remember, there are End Times discussions in many different books of the Bible, not just in Revelation.

Peace.
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Thanks for clarifying, however I didn't realize it was clear that Obama is evil. Is there a verse in the bible that picks him out, or did you ask God yourself?


You must be bored today....Christians should quit answering, since it's just for your pure entertainment. Prayer is always a better options, nothing you can do about that, and God may actually soften your rotten, hard heart. All you have to do is listen to Obama (and you...) to know that your hearts are evil.
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You really shouldn't judge others, there are some bible verses that talk about that. I could post them if you like.

Also, I'm not voting for Obama.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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Answer me this, I'm curious.

In Revelations the whole world is pretty much destroyed, God comes back and gets his people, etc. So, if you believe the wrath of God is coming, as per revelations, why would you pretend that not voting for Obama will NOT bring about the wrath of God and what is written in Revelations?

What I wanna know is, why all the fuss about who is gonna win the election? It doesn't really matter does it, if God already has a plan? Wouldn't vehemently opposing the things happening now in the world be a sign of your lack of faith in God's plan?
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Its a non-starter. You can't believe that Obama is the antichrist(He's not) and actually read and understand Rev.
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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It is the Christian's duty to resist evil. There is no guarantee just when the Tribulation will start. It could begin now, or it could still be sometime in the future. Voting against Obama is part of the fight against evil.

It's not a fight to dethrone the coming Antichrist, or even to overthrow the NWO, as Christians know that only Jesus Himself will be able to put down this great evil. But Christians should still resist the overwhelming evil in the world, and help to reduce its imposed suffering wherever they can.



Thanks for clarifying, however I didn't realize it was clear that Obama is evil. Is there a verse in the bible that picks him out, or did you ask God yourself?
 Quoting: canislatrans

LOL, that is simply my opinion based on his actions and positions.
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Its a non-starter. You can't believe that Obama is the antichrist(He's not) and actually read and understand Rev.
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I agree, thank you. My questions were directed at those who do have this belief.
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You really shouldn't judge others, there are some bible verses that talk about that. I could post them if you like.

Also, I'm not voting for Obama.
 Quoting: canislatrans


You will know them by their fruits...that's not judging, it's just pointing out to other Christians on this site to stop typing for a moment & pray for you.
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Its a non-starter. You can't believe that Obama is the antichrist(He's not) and actually read and understand Rev.



I agree, thank you. My questions were directed at those who do have this belief.
 Quoting: canislatrans

hf
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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You will know them by their fruits...that's not judging, it's just pointing out to other Christians on this site to stop typing for a moment & pray for you.
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That is nice of you to do that for me, thank you. :) I don't need saving however, I already asked Christ for forgiveness many years ago. Been working on the transformation of my life ever since.
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what I wanna know does the god of the bible actually exist.


Sure does, Lucifer is very real, just ask the secret society types who formed all the religions of the world around him.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



A ++++++++++++++++++++++


it will prove to be the most evil and greatest trick ever played upon mnakind...

BELIEVE IT !..

im so glad I dont support it
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Answer me this, I'm curious.

In Revelations the whole world is pretty much destroyed, God comes back and gets his people, etc. So, if you believe the wrath of God is coming, as per revelations, why would you pretend that not voting for Obama will NOT bring about the wrath of God and what is written in Revelations?

What I wanna know is, why all the fuss about who is gonna win the election? It doesn't really matter does it, if God already has a plan? Wouldn't vehemently opposing the things happening now in the world be a sign of your lack of faith in God's plan?

Its a non-starter. You can't believe that Obama is the antichrist(He's not) and actually read and understand Rev.
 Quoting: mathetes

Personally, I don't think Obama is THE End Times Antichrist, but I suspect he might be an anti-Christ "type".

We really will not know who the Antichrist is until he signs the 7yr Peace Treaty with Israel and her neighbors.

Of course, when he takes over most of the world, and then begins demanding worship, the world might get a clue.

An Obama presidency would be an American Socialist's dream come true. It is the antithesis of what America was founded on. If Obama realizes his and his fellow travelers' stated goals, the Communist Revolution will be complete.

Peace.
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There are some who need to know in case he is and they will know what their options are just in case. God loves all his children and he will give them the opportunity to hear the truth before it is too late
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You will know them by their fruits...that's not judging, it's just pointing out to other Christians on this site to stop typing for a moment & pray for you.



That is nice of you to do that for me, thank you. :) I don't need saving however, I already asked Christ for forgiveness many years ago. Been working on the transformation of my life ever since.
 Quoting: canislatrans

fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. A new world order must be in place for the antichrist to appear. He will bring solutions to every problem on Earth and many people will follow him from around the world, not only one country. I believe this economic crisis that is pending a crash is a great sign for his appearance. I do not believe is Obama. If you want read on this guy right here share-international.org ( Maitreya ).
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It is better to live your life and believe in God because if you die and are wrong then nothing is lost. But if you live your life and don't believe and then you die and find out that the word of the bible is true then it is to late. You lose everything. Just a thought for all those that think our beliefs are fairy tales. In the end we lose nothing for believing and if we are right we gain everything.
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what I wanna know does the god of the bible actually exist.


Sure does, Lucifer is very real, just ask the secret society types who formed all the religions of the world around him.



A ++++++++++++++++++++++


it will prove to be the most evil and greatest trick ever played upon mnakind...

BELIEVE IT !..

im so glad I dont support it
 Quoting: youlovelies 539402

Umm, you might want to ask Saxxon just who he gets his marching orders from.

You might be surprised.
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That is nice of you to do that for me, thank you. :) I don't need saving however, I already asked Christ for forgiveness many years ago. Been working on the transformation of my life ever since.
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You've got posts all over this site that tell those of us who are Spirit filled that your fruits are not good fruits (ALL of your posts) What is your point??? Trying to make God look bad? Have people agree with you that God is mean? Turn people away from truth? Put confusion into their minds? If that is your point, you're doing a GREAT job...and as I keep saying God is God regardless of opinions, He'll do what He wants, ALL of Revelation will come to pass. Think you can stop global warming??? Read about the heat that will come upon the Earth, people will have boils on their skin...we are told people will curse God vs. turning to Him, even though He's the ONLY one who will be able to rescue the suffering world.

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