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ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 1

 
Nancy Lieder
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ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 1
ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 1

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Join us with your questions for an interactive discussion with Nancy and the Zetas!
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Starts 7:00 EDT, 6:00 CDT, 5:00 MDT, 4:00 PDT, etc.

Note the chat is in the Forum of GodlikeProduction, a pinned thread. There is no Chatroom at GodlikeProduction.
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Chat Ground Rules!
This Live ZetaTalk chat is to give the public the opportunity to ask legitimate and pertinent questions. It is NOT so that
1. debunking campaigns can hold sway,
2. or to throw out insults,
3. or to insist endlessly that the world is normal,
4. or to attempt distraction from business at hand.

This is not about censorship but about allowing those who want to participate in the conversation to do so for the designated time, without being harassed and without constant distractions.

If a question has been asked and answered in previous threads or existing ZetaTalk, I will say so and attempt to point to the location of the answers. REPEATEDLY asking the question will be considered trolling.

REPEATED insistence that all is normal, such as the weather or location of the moon, when others have noted and participants are noting things are NOT normal, will be considered spamming.

People who are only here to disrupt and attack and troll and spam will have their posts removed and repeated offenses will lead to banning for a period of 24 hours.
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howdy nancy and the Z's........
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Note to Fans

Don't ask the Zetas to respond to personal problems or questions. No personal counseling is done. This rule has been in place since 1996 when it became obvious that the clamor for personal counseling would drown out more important work.

Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors is not done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002 when it became obvious that a plethora of websites making claims that could not be verified were cropping up, and the clamor for the Zetas to address every silly statement would drown out more important work. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.

Questions in these categories will be ignored without explanation or apology by Nancy, during the chat.
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Are there any technological innovations in the Zetan societies? Or have they reached a technological limit? I just assume that 4th density technology has been out there for tens of millions of years, past down from older 4th density groups to new ones. (Maybe not so in sts groups, who probably have to reinvent the space ship on occasions.)
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Hello Nancy,Zeta's and participants
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Coastal Maine Tide Change a Mystery
October 30, 2008
[link to www.boston.com]
Meteorologists are baffled by rapid tidal changes along the Maine coast, which damaged some boats and piers. Witnesses say low tide turned and became high within a matter of minutes on Tuesday afternoon [Oct 28]. The changes occurred six or seven times. The National Weather Service says reports from several locations indicated that water levels fell and rose from 4 feet to as much as 12 feet during the event. In a public information statement, the weather service says the cause "remains a mystery and may never be known." It said significant rapid rises and falls in tide levels were observed around 3 p.m. in Boothbay Harbor, Southport and Bristol. The statement said rapid surges can be caused by the underwater movement of land, most often due to an earthquake, or due to slumping of sediments along a steep canyon or shelf, but no earthquakes were reported in the area Tuesday. A similar event occurred on Jan. 9, 1926, in Bass Harbor, the statement said.

SOZT
The wobble has worsened, and this is one symptom of this worsening wobble. What happens during a wobble? The Earth is pulled or pushed under her blanket or air or water, suddenly and over a short period of time. Nancy has been collecting observations from trusted sources and has confirmed a more aggressive wobble, especially in the hours between the afternoon and early evening along the East Coast. This is precisely when this high tide occurred.
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Hi nancy

Obviously the zetas cannot speak to the exact methods that will or are currently being used to suppress voter fraud. In general are the neocons still confident that they can pull it off? Have they not learned their lesson yet?

Are the recent attacks on syria and Pakistan attempts to stir up things to benefit mccain?

Any comment on the new earth wobble?

Thank you
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Prior Zeta predictions on high tides ...

April 15, 1999
[link to www.zetatalk3.com]
The oceans will continue, as will the weather, the ocean of air, to become more erratic. Winds sweeping in without notice, sudden storms, deluges, tides that are greater than expected, especially along the Pacific coastlines. Warm oceans will occur in places where they should be cool, and the fisheries will suffer from this because they can't predict where the schools of fish will be.

January 12, 2000
[link to www.zetatalk3.com]
We also predict, as we did last year, that there will be high tides. Not tsunamis, following earthquakes, but unusual high tides. We also predict that there will begin to be reports of whirlpools in the oceans that will startle those who have never seen such a thing in the oceans.

And the recent wobble observations/measurements ...

Baraboo, WI 10/28
Observed 200 Alt 40 2:30 pm
Skymap 196 Alt 22
HIGH by 18

Santiago, Chili 10/29
Observed 230 8:00 pm sunset (daylight saving time)
Skymap Azi 253
SOUTH by 23

Scranton, PA 10/30
Observed Azi 216 5:35 pm sunset
Skymap Azi 247 Alt 4
Sun SOUTH by 30 degrees!
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Earlier I posted the following:

Thread: ZetaMax - The TRUE Cause of the Destruction of Atlantis NEVER Before REVEALED Until *NOW*

Many are familiar with the fact that the Earth is bulged at the equator.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

An equatorial bulge is a bulge which a planet may have around its equator, distorting it into an oblate spheroid. The Earth has an equatorial bulge of 42.72 km (26.5 miles) due to its rotation: its diameter measured across the equatorial plane (12756.28 km, 7,927 miles) is 42.72 km more than that measured between the poles (12713.56 km, 7,900 miles).

An often-cited result of Earth's equatorial bulge is that the highest point on Earth, measured from the center outwards, is the peak of Mount Chimborazo in Ecuador, rather than Mount Everest. But since the ocean, like the Earth and the atmosphere, bulges, Chimborazo is not as high above sea level as Everest is.


Now imagine that the Continent of Atlantis at it's civilized peak, was situated on or very near the equator. Here's what happened. A fly-by of Planet X caused a POLE SHIFT. In this scenario, the Earth's magnetic molten iron core becomes - temporily - magnetically locked with the magnetic iron core of Planet X. As PX flies by (in less than seven days by some historical accounts), the Earth's core rotates ABRUPTLY following the trail of Planet X. This abrupt movement of the iron core, drags the mantel, and with it the earth's crust, to a new location and axial alignment with the sun. Once PX has moved far enough away, the "normal" forces of the sun and solar system's effects on Earth, resume thier dominance, and the Earth again begins rotating as it does today.

However, since the crust has moved, and along with it, Atlantis, TWO THINGS MUST OCCUR. A new equatorial bulge will form at the NEW equator, and LAND WILL RISE. Likewise, land at the old equator, WILL FALL. In fact it could FALL MILES - literally to the bottom of the ocean as the fabled destruction of Atlantis has portrayed.

QUESTIONS:

Was any of this a factor in the destruction of Atlantis, and is this indeed one of the "mechanisms" for the rising and falling of land during and following a pole shift?

I know there is 3 days of rotation stoppage before the actual shift - Does the bulge hold up for those three days, or does it start to recede? Is it gradual, or catastrophic or "partly" catastrophic when combined with other factors such as the topography of the crust at the location placed under stress?

Does the Earth become "round" near the end of the rotation stoppage?

How long does it take the "new" bulge to form and become stable?

THANKS NANCY & ZETAS!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

ZetaMax
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Nancy, I hope you get a lot of sleep for Tuesday. I also hope you don't go out in public for a large gathering.
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Nancy, it looks like McConnell, the nation's top spymaster and alleged former MJ-12 member, is now echoing the same kind of 'warning' about possible attacks on the US to 'test' the new president.

[link to www.voanews.com]

Is there more to this than meets the eye? What's the real motive behind him coming out now, following Colin Powell's and Joe Biden's warning to the same effect? Is he trying to get on Obama's bandwagon or sending a subtle signal that maybe the cabal headed by his good friend Dick Cheney might 'try something'?
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Evening. bump
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Are there any technological innovations in the Zetan societies? Or have they reached a technological limit? I just assume that 4th density technology has been out there for tens of millions of years, past down from older 4th density groups to new ones. (Maybe not so in sts groups, who probably have to reinvent the space ship on occasions.)

SOZT
Man is aware of only a tiny portion of alien technology, seeing space ships zip off suddenly or disappear entirely from view, going into another dimension. High IQ and high tech societies do not find themselves at the limit of knowledge, ever, anymore than mankind has found itself at a limit. Even after millions of years.
EOZT
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McCain keeps insisting that he's going to win, despite how slim his chances seem from all the reports. He keeps saying that HIS polls shows him narrowing the lead. It really does look like he's expecting voter fraud, his confidence seem sincere, and seems to be setting his talk up for a surprise win by him.
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Nancy, what was the final outcome of the Indonesian airliner that crashed? You had said that it was to be found in an inland lake.
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Devon England got 2 feet of HAIL. I had never heard of such a thing!! More consequences of the more aggressive wobble??
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

ZetaMax
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From the situation room:


:debunkvill:
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Nancy, in the new book about Dick Cheney, "Angler", which is very well researched, it shows Cheney literally obsessed with possible scenarios of terrorists stealing and setting off so-called "suitcase nukes" in the US. Cheney is also shown outright lying, even to stalwart allies as former GOP House leader Dick Armey, about these kinds of threats. Was that all a cover used to monitor his own plans for "false-flag" terror operations, or is it true that he had nothing to do with any of those "false-flag" operations? Has he accepted that the plans he and George Herbert Walker Bush had to be "on top of the world" for the poleshift will come to nothing, or is he still confident that somehow something will happen to allow him to win in the end?
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omg are you still harping on this zeta propaganda!?
Your worse then that loonie from down under that said ufos were gonna appear on oct14th!
come on,you had your 15 minutes now your just really embarrassing yourself and making people feel bad for you.
Poor woman,just let it go and move on with your life.
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Hope your having a most swell and happy Saturday as well!

Peace
Love to Mother Earth Always
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Obviously the zetas cannot speak to the exact methods that will or are currently being used to suppress voter fraud. In general are the neocons still confident that they can pull it off? Have they not learned their lesson yet? Are the recent attacks on syria and Pakistan attempts to stir up things to benefit mccain?

SOZT
We have in fact detailed the steps we took in 2006
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
though as expected the fraud machine will try to invent new methods to evade our scrutiny. None of this of course works as we know of their methods as soon as they plot them. We know who will be involved, what computer systems will be involved, and the timing of any steps they plan to take. Since we can teleport our human assistants anywhere, can freeze other humans in the vicinity so they are unaware of our efforts, and have other tools in our warchest not even imagined by the fraud machine, they will fail. The efforts to provide McCain with an international incident that would allow him to showcase his supposed foreign policy skills have likewise failed, as in the recent Syrian attack. All that is required is for the country being goaded to fail to response, as Syria did in this case. Had Syria created an uproar, engaged in counter attack or elicited help from neighboring countries, the incident may have succeeded as planned. But Syria, as Iran, is wise to these techniques and the fact that the Bush administration has failed in Iraq. They know it is only a matter of time before matters change, and fail to take the bait.
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Devon England got 2 feet of HAIL. I had never heard of such a thing!! More consequences of the more aggressive wobble??
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***



Holy crap good find. To no surprise not a headline on mainstream us networks. Neither was that deadly earthquake in Pakistan on Friday.
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Good Evening Nancy. I saw an Obama interview recently on tv. He was asked what would be at the top of his do to list if he won the whitehouse. He said first on the list would be taking care of the current economic situation.
I was wondering if it were possible that he could have his hands so full with dealing with the affects of the Earth changes to the US that this will be most important by the time he enters the whitehouse?
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Any comment on the new earth wobble?

SOZT
We stated that the wobble would get more severe, more violent, and that earthquakes and other Earth changes would increase apace. We have long predicted this. As the N Pole of Planet X turns toward the Earth, the N Pole of Earth is pushed more violently away, and the bounce back is similarly violent. As usual, we will not reveal any timeline.
EOZT
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SOZT
Man is aware of only a tiny portion of alien technology, seeing space ships zip off suddenly or disappear entirely from view, going into another dimension. High IQ and high tech societies do not find themselves at the limit of knowledge, ever, anymore than mankind has found itself at a limit. Even after millions of years.
EOZT


So freaking intriguing, beyond anything. I wish I could follow those technological advances the way I follow them here.
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Last winter we had the entire northern hemisphere pushed away from the Sun by the hose of magnetic particles coming from the N Pole of Planet X. Siberia had record cold and N America too, the whole northern hemisphere.
Last Summer we had a distinct wobble, with many people reporting the Sun too far in the north, at least for sunrise. I got email on this steadily and saw postings too. But now these reports have STOPPED. Something has changed.
We may have a repeat of last winter, where the whole northern hemisphere is pushed away and all have less sun - ie a colder winter. OR we may have a more violent wobble, a stronger figure 8. OR we may have what the Zetas have described as a complicated kind of double wobble, not just a standard figure 8 but a bobble back during the wobble or some such (what a nightmare to try to chart). OR we may have a lean to the left, slightly, where the arc across the sky from sunrise to sunset will be less extreme in both hemispheres, and without the push away of the N Pole as the N Pole will be pushed away to begin with. The lean to the left is supposed to begin as we move into the 3 days of darkness, when Planet X moves (from our view) more to the right of the Sun or another way of putting it, the Earth moves to the left of Planet X. The final extreme is that the Earth essentially falls on its side, and then swings its N Pole away into the 3 days of darkness. The Zetas have NOT stated how long the lean to the left will last, nor when it will start. Typical for them, the process gets described but not the dates.
What measurements entail is having a firm N/S/E/W direction landmark, like a street you are sure goes N/S or a survey with N/S indicated. Don't use a compass as they are erratic these days. It's OK if you don't get the exact moment of sunrise/sunset or whatever as I check against Skymap and can see how far to the south or north you are regardless of time of day. The arc in the sky is measured more around noonish.
Going around the horizon, consider dead north to be 0 degrees, dead south 180 degrees, east 90 degrees, west 270 degrees. Dead overhead is 90 degrees with horizon considered an altitude of 0 degrees. So sunrise might be 92 degrees on the horizon with only a 5 degrees above the horizon. High noon might be 80 degrees up and approximately 170 degrees around the horizon to the south.
Thanks for anything you can do!


I'm keeping a log, Nancy using an elevation and azimuth angle gauge I printed from a link listed a while back on the tt forum. I'm no scientist, but I think I can give you a fair approximation from my location. Do you want the data daily? weekly? Send to your e-mail on ZetaTalk.com?
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To the Zetas: if the Earth's rotation will slow down, is there a detectable slowdown now? If so, is the Navy resetting their clocks to match celestial alignment as best as possible? Would these adjustments trickle down to cellphones, digital TV boxes, TV stations, the weather channel, etc?

I have noticed that quartz based watches are gaining time around 1-2 minutes per month relative to clocks "synchronized to the establishment clock" sources (such as those mentioned above). I do not have enough data to show a deceleration, just enough to know a slowdown is occurring but also assuming the establishment clock is being readjusted. Would the Zetas like to comment on these data?

Thanks
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Q: What's up with the tide in Maine? "Witnesses say low tide turned and became high within a matter of minutes on Tuesday afternoon. The changes occurred six or seven times. The National Weather Service says reports from several locations indicated that water levels fell and rose from 4 feet to as much as 12 feet during the event."

[link to www.boston.com]

Is this connected to the splitting apart of the St. Lawrence Seaway? Can the Zetas say anything about the pending rip - or any other dramatic geo-physical changes for that matter - that will happen in the remaining 80 days until Obama is sworn in?
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Hello Earth... how are things with you?
The greatest weapon of mass destruction is a closed mind.
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Hi Nancy and Zetas

Thank you for your service.

Is the overwhelming acceptance and now an advertising campaign of Joe the Plumber's lies and racism too much? and won't Obama lose?

Also the intense sleaziness and cry baby attitude of Conservatives - won't that create a civil war - as some conservatives such as Lush Limpbaugh and Glenn Beck and Bobo the clown O'Reilly are in essence calling for? A civil war that is?





GLP